(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600]OT[10x30 byo-yomi]
PW[Mingming77 (Stephanie Yin)]PB[FengYun (Feng Yun)]WR[1p]BR[9p]DT[2018-08-20]EV[2018 Tianfu Cup Preliminary]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[3592.621]
;W[dp]WL[3588.269]
;B[fq]BL[3587.364]C[Prodigy [9d\]: Is this the prelims for the tournament in China?
xedover [?\]: yes
Prodigy [9d\]: Lovely
]
;W[hq]WL[3502.612]
;B[dc]BL[3557.566]
;W[qp]WL[3447.289]
;B[cn]BL[3553.044]
;W[dn]WL[3330.952]
;B[dm]BL[3546.668]
;W[en]WL[3328.627]
;B[cp]BL[3530.95]
;W[cq]WL[3323.623]
;B[bo]BL[3465.492]
;W[bp]WL[3220.793]
;B[co]BL[3461.079]
;W[dq]WL[3217.436]
;B[op]BL[3375.046]
;W[oq]WL[3003.639]
;B[pp]BL[3346.428]
;W[pq]WL[2999.91]
;B[qo]BL[3345.383]
;W[np]WL[2923.18]
;B[qq]BL[3289.159]
;W[rp]WL[2918.652]
;B[qr]BL[3288.226]
;W[ro]WL[2914.778]
;B[qn]BL[3287.205]
;W[pr]WL[2768.423]
;B[nq]BL[3280.257]
;W[nr]WL[2762.687]
;B[mq]BL[3278.924]
;W[no]WL[2750.933]
;B[on]BL[3277.97]C[FAKENEWSS: is this a joseki?
]
;W[rr]WL[2728.711]
;B[mr]BL[3272.075]
;W[rq]WL[2722.997]C[nidsa: no
nidsa: white lost
ctdogpdf: lol
agcStupGod [9d\]: o6 or k3
VerySlow [1k\]: K3 seems using F4 and D5 but it'd be too obvious?
VerySlow [1k\]: now we can sleep 2 hours and come back lol
nidsa: o6
VerySlow [1k\]: watching Petgo in the meanwhile :D
lonepeak: k3 or something on the bot
Olivia [2d\]: o6 looks like the shape move
VerySlow [1k\]: gee, black still has two empty corners
VerySlow [1k\]: if N3 can manage to erage and go out then gg
]
;B[iq]BL[2842.719]C[nidsa: !
nidsa: leela!
lonepeak: so j3 is bot move
nidsa: thats what leela said
nidsa: wowzers
VerySlow [1k\]: used F3
VerySlow [1k\]: can sacrifice N3 if it has to be so :D
evave [5k\]: i have to like B here
purp [4k\]: b is setting the terms of this game so far
purp [4k\]: i have time to go ride my bike before the next move
]
;W[ip]WL[2422.996]
;B[hp]BL[2829.65]
;W[jq]WL[2368.488]
;B[ir]BL[2824.621]
;W[gp]WL[2347.536]
;B[ho]BL[2814.985]
;W[gq]WL[2342.461]C[hvk [-\]: GG
lonepeak: b gain something
hvk [-\]: HI
evave [5k\]: purp .. u r slorida
purp [4k\]: evave.  what is slorida
agcStupGod [9d\]: k2 only why stuck here
evave [5k\]: J5 before?
agcStupGod [9d\]: j5 is a wrong move for b
purp [4k\]: no answer ?  good grief
purp [4k\]: i was hoping it was something important
mafutrct [-\]: lz suggests k2 or o6 here
squid [13k?\]: maybe "slow rider"?
agcStupGod [9d\]: k2 for sure
purp [4k\]: and what would that mean
]
;B[nn]BL[2597.383]C[purp [4k\]: evave speak up silly one
trickyT [10k\]: lol
purp [4k\]: okay fine.  you're so deep 
agcStupGod [9d\]: lol
Olivia [2d\]: so what's the gain of playing j3 exchanges first before o6?
mafutrct [-\]: i'd have k2
VerySlow [1k\]: wall
agcStupGod [9d\]: o6 i think is good for w
agcStupGod [9d\]: dont get why she wanted this
agcStupGod [9d\]: w k4
VerySlow [1k\]: black's plan gets clearer
agcStupGod [9d\]: or even j5 for w
evave [5k\]: How does k4 work? b l2...
mafutrct [-\]: if l2 then, b has horrible thin shape
VerySlow [1k\]: black can sacrifice
VerySlow [1k\]: he wants to use Q16
VerySlow [1k\]: if he can get a huge moyo then gg
mafutrct [-\]: lz says k4 is a bit slow, likes to j5 and fight it out
VerySlow [1k\]: white has two corners and B3 still open
agcStupGod [9d\]: i would choose k4
agcStupGod [9d\]: but yea
agcStupGod [9d\]: only k4j5
agcStupGod [9d\]: i mean they really spend like 10 min here???
valkyre [1d\]: this is tournament?
]
;W[lo]WL[2042.603]C[purp [4k\]: well when you have 2 hours per player why not
xedover [?\]: yes: http://www.usgo.org/news/2018/08/1st-tianfu-cup-prelim-set-for-820-24-on-kgs/
evave [5k\]: whoaaa
agcStupGod [9d\]: sigh
agcStupGod [9d\]: b can L5 even
agcStupGod [9d\]: or M4
Jermelle [?\]: Hm..
agcStupGod [9d\]: L5 w is in danger
purp [4k\]: i love youre here agcStupGod giving us a 9d perspective
mafutrct [-\]: lz says w made looks like a tactical mistake
mafutrct [-\]: it also likes m4 in response
agcStupGod [9d\]: this is a wrong move for w obviously
agcStupGod [9d\]: same judgement
]
;B[lp]BL[2511.559]C[agcStupGod [9d\]: lz is slow though haha
agcStupGod [9d\]: wth
evave [5k\]: haha
agcStupGod [9d\]: then w can still do j5
lonepeak: agcstup vs slow lz next game for us,plz=)
agcStupGod [9d\]: fy lost this perfect chance
agcStupGod [9d\]: lz still beats me
VerySlow [1k\]: oh shoot it's Mingming, Steph?? I know this girl
agcStupGod [9d\]: i make stupid mistakes all the time
agcStupGod [9d\]: w j5 no problem
purp [4k\]: so what
purp [4k\]: thats go bro
agcStupGod [9d\]: i dont think lz can give anyother anwers
hvk [-\]: n6 l4 
agcStupGod [9d\]: only j5
mafutrct [-\]: lz likes k2, or maybe j5 here
agcStupGod [9d\]: lol
agcStupGod [9d\]: pu............
evave [5k\]: n6
jinglejin: hi
jinglejin: this is a pro game?
Sorry [8d\]: yes
agcStupGod [9d\]: yes
purp [4k\]: of course
mafutrct [-\]: i think k2 leads to a ladder breaker, doesnt it?
hvk [-\]: W  n6 q9 
VerySlow [1k\]: p9 vs p1
agcStupGod [9d\]: j5 is definitely better then k2 in human's view
]
;W[mn]WL[1912.871]C[evave [5k\]: hahaha
VerySlow [1k\]: 9p vs 19
VerySlow [1k\]: 1p
agcStupGod [9d\]: wth
hvk [-\]: TX
Sorry [8d\]: l5 ? 
agcStupGod [9d\]: then b can take L5
agcStupGod [9d\]: w even worse than before
jinglejin: agc, are you pro? what level?
agcStupGod [9d\]: yes
agcStupGod [9d\]: long time ago
lonepeak: i like l5
evave [5k\]: now L5 good for b
jinglejin: agc, can you tell real name for i find some of your game?
purp [4k\]: thanks agc for playing lower rank on 9 board
agcStupGod [9d\]: i think there is sth wrong with w's player
agcStupGod [9d\]: why real name
]
;B[ko]BL[2433.059]C[VerySlow [1k\]: w is 1p
agcStupGod [9d\]: this is a fun boring account for me
jinglejin: ok man no problem ;)
Jermelle [?\]: This is pretty painful for w...
agcStupGod [9d\]: w can only do k4 now
hvk [-\]: n7 
agcStupGod [9d\]: steall some pts back but still
agcStupGod [9d\]: k4 no problem
evave [5k\]: L6
agcStupGod [9d\]: why they spent so much time here?
SuperAwe [3k\]: K4 k2?
agcStupGod [9d\]: k5k4
]
;W[mm]WL[1829.235]C[Jermelle [?\]: ...
Sorry [8d\]: w's in deep trouble
agcStupGod [9d\]: sigh
agcStupGod [9d\]: game is over soon
mafutrct [-\]: lz thinks game over
agcStupGod [9d\]: b takes k4
hvk [-\]: r9 
agcStupGod [9d\]: so huge
Jermelle [?\]: I'm not sure where W is going with this
agcStupGod [9d\]: is w pro?
Sorry [8d\]: yes
jinglejin: jermelle, do you remember keiju?
agcStupGod [9d\]: seems to me like a 4d
KoyoToya [1d\]: Yes agc
VerySlow [1k\]: K4 is so good
KoyoToya [1d\]: She's 1p
agcStupGod [9d\]: b takes k4 what s for w then....
evave [5k\]: K4 gote
VerySlow [1k\]: even a kyu level can see that
Sorry [8d\]: j5 ?
agcStupGod [9d\]: w probably p8
agcStupGod [9d\]: but so much pts behind
evave [5k\]: i like q9 better
agcStupGod [9d\]: it is like stopping there for 1 move
agcStupGod [9d\]: or b can do p5 exchange first
agcStupGod [9d\]: either way
agcStupGod [9d\]: k4 is a must
hvk [-\]: k4 
jinglejin: k4
purp [4k\]: p5 first?
Sorry [8d\]: unnecessary exchange
valkyre [1d\]: k4 is a mask
crazyeight [8d\]: a mask?
Sorry [8d\]: the shape?
purp [4k\]: b's q4 group looks weak now
VerySlow [1k\]: it's a candy
Olivia [2d\]: maybe b wants white to play k4
agcStupGod [9d\]: no way b will lose k4 to w
agcStupGod [9d\]: b probably got scared
agcStupGod [9d\]: like is this a trick move.......
VerySlow [1k\]: can't even see how R6 is going to die
jinglejin: its ok if dies
VerySlow [1k\]: got Q16 still
purp [4k\]: so k4 is best th en
evave [5k\]: B Q10
jinglejin: this is a 30k tsumego, k4
agcStupGod [9d\]: i dont think pro needs extra 10 min here but everyone is nervous
Prodigy [9d\]: vital point
agcStupGod [9d\]: k4 for sure
VerySlow [1k\]: white should R1
VerySlow [1k\]: only move
Prodigy [9d\]: b's probably thinking about how to take care of r6 group after p8
jinglejin: veryslow get off
VerySlow [1k\]: :p
atltimtim [5d\]: does p8 even work
jinglejin: xD
KoyoToya [1d\]: Clearly T1 is best
]
;B[go]BL[2063.727]C[agcStupGod [9d\]: easy p5 
Prodigy [9d\]: o
agcStupGod [9d\]: sigh
toyaakira1 [8d\]: :V
purp [4k\]: wow
jinglejin: omg
jinglejin: mistake
Jermelle [?\]: ...
evave [5k\]: YES!
agcStupGod [9d\]: still sente though 
purp [4k\]: i love it
]
;W[fp]WL[1806.51]C[lonepeak: b wanted to crush w??
mafutrct [-\]: lz says g5 and k4 are the same
]
;B[kn]BL[2061.047]C[Prodigy [9d\]: not really mistake? 
evave [5k\]: haha
VerySlow [1k\]: yohooh
purp [4k\]: b is without doubt
agcStupGod [9d\]: w needs p8
jinglejin: b is the greatest feng yun sama
agcStupGod [9d\]: but i dont get b here
Prodigy [9d\]: keiju is that you
agcStupGod [9d\]: leave so many ko threats to your rival
redreoicy [6d\]: l6 leaves k5
KoyoToya [1d\]: I played feng yun at a Congress once
jinglejin: where is keiju?
purp [4k\]: if you're white what next?
houth [3k\]: tenuki 
purp [4k\]: k16?
valkyre [1d\]: ask alphago
houth [3k\]: can't pull out that group 
evave [5k\]: P8
redreoicy [6d\]: cannot play k5 now, but later it is huge aji
jinglejin: i remember jermelle speaking about keiju lol
VerySlow [1k\]: Feng Yun stands for "wind" and "cloud" in Chinese if I am not mistaken with the character's guess
houth [3k\]: well cloud is correct
houth [3k\]: feng no 
Prodigy [9d\]: it's a different feng
hvk [-\]: k4 l4 k2 l8 n9 o8 
jinglejin: i only know feng shui
xedover [?\]: 丰 云
VerySlow [1k\]: ok
xedover [?\]: https://senseis.xmp.net/?FengYun
VerySlow [1k\]: thx!
]
;W[ol]WL[1645.022]C[mafutrct [-\]: lz liked c9 better than p8
VerySlow [1k\]: plenty of clouds
VerySlow [1k\]: hqhq
]
;B[ql]BL[2049.942]C[hvk [-\]: GG 
evave [5k\]: L6 was hugr
houth [3k\]: w looks bad 
houth [3k\]: idk wat u guys think 
purp [4k\]: this is the most fun i've had watching a game since zen was around
]
;W[pj]WL[1598.41]C[Jermelle [?\]: W is going go try to kill this out of desperation
valkyre [1d\]: kgs should have more of this game
mafutrct [-\]: lz wants b to spend a move to fix k4
VerySlow [1k\]: cant see how white is going to benefit tthat much
xedover [?\]: three more rounds for this event this week
purp [4k\]: whats the event?
VerySlow [1k\]: looks more like a weird sabaki haha
]
;B[rj]BL[1980.924]C[evave [5k\]: s10 ?
jinglejin: purp, event of pros, pros party 
purp [4k\]: so sweet
xedover [?\]: http://www.usgo.org/news/2018/08/1st-tianfu-cup-prelim-set-for-820-24-on-kgs/
purp [4k\]: which i was in the flesh 
Jermelle [?\]: I wonder if white will knight move again
VerySlow [1k\]: went to the US Go Congress once, was truly fun !
VerySlow [1k\]: you guys should also attend
purp [4k\]: can i bring beer?
VerySlow [1k\]: of c :D
jinglejin: yes pls purp
FAKENEWSS: skateboarding and beer
purp [4k\]: i live in a legal state may i bring green too?
jinglejin: i am a professional tenis player in rank 265 atp
purp [4k\]: nice jinglejin
jinglejin: thx
purp [4k\]: whos your favorite player
VerySlow [1k\]: gg :)
purp [4k\]: in tennis
jinglejin: favorite for sure is federer :D
mafutrct [-\]: r11 looks like a natural move to me, but lz likes q13 here, which appears to be sente
purp [4k\]: he is a treat to witness
Jermelle [?\]: Either r11 or r12
FAKENEWSS: r12 
evave [5k\]: S11
houth [3k\]: 23% for w
nidsa: nadalll
houth [3k\]: leela says
purp [4k\]: nadall is awesome too
hvk [-\]: k4 
VerySlow [1k\]: Q13 for w
VerySlow [1k\]: ?
VerySlow [1k\]: wow wouldn't have thought about it
]
;W[kl]WL[1430.918]C[houth [3k\]: leela suggests r11
Jermelle [?\]: Oh?
purp [4k\]: k4 is ripe and ready
VerySlow [1k\]: ok w freaked out because of G5 and L6 it seems
houth [3k\]: yes leela wants k4
Jermelle [?\]: This is a preparation for r11 or r12
houth [3k\]: then b would be 83 %
jinglejin: oh yeah
]
;B[oo]BL[1903.139]C[VerySlow [1k\]: looks like w is doing sabaki
houth [3k\]: 80%
houth [3k\]: c8 for w leela suggest
houth [3k\]: 22% 
squid [13k?\]: n5
]
;W[dk]WL[1346.641]C[purp [4k\]: on to the next chapters
VerySlow [1k\]: b is confident
nidsa: anyone know the schedule for these games
houth [3k\]: b9 or c9
houth [3k\]: 81%
]
;B[ck]BL[1824.87]C[jinglejin: 81% what
houth [3k\]: b9 81%
nidsa: wr
houth [3k\]: c9 80.9%
]
;W[cj]WL[1295.809]C[jinglejin: b9?
]
;B[dj]BL[1823.802]C[houth [3k\]: yep
houth [3k\]: w 19%
houth [3k\]: now
jinglejin: mingjiu 
Prodigy [9d\]: where
]
;W[bk]WL[1138.435]C[nat1dpm: sure making w eat up time
]
;B[cl]BL[1819.877]
;W[ci]WL[1137.288]
;B[ej]BL[1794.561]C[houth [3k\]: w 16%
evave [5k\]: b wants blood all the time
mafutrct [-\]: here's an interesting idea: exchange d16 for c17 before playing c14
FAKENEWSS: what makes you think thats interesting?
]
;W[cf]WL[1072.242]C[purp [4k\]: oh well 
mafutrct [-\]: it's not something i would have thought of
VerySlow [1k\]: would u play D16 now? 
Prodigy [9d\]: w needs to play more greedy 
VerySlow [1k\]: if not, then D16 is bad :D
mafutrct [-\]: b would reply differently now i think
FAKENEWSS: c16 e14 f16 lazy playstyle
evave [5k\]: w need ko
mafutrct [-\]: because now, d16 c16 cannot be answered with w c15
FAKENEWSS: b wont play c16 since he doesnt look lazy
purp [4k\]: i wonder how different this game would be if they played 10 or 15 second moves
]
;B[nj]BL[1700.798]C[Prodigy [9d\]: oh?
FAKENEWSS: see, not lazy
FAKENEWSS: he likes chaos
Prodigy [9d\]: she*
purp [4k\]: me too
purp [4k\]: mix it up
VerySlow [1k\]: destroyer
evave [5k\]: Nice shape
]
;W[pl]WL[1026.097]C[purp [4k\]: an opponent a few weeks ago took umbrage to this strategy and went off on me like it was not appropriate
purp [4k\]: like chaos is insulting to the elegance of go or something
purp [4k\]: so funny
Prodigy [9d\]: r9 p10 o9 o8 m9 looks painful 
FAKENEWSS: we are so low level to the point it doesnt matter
evave [5k\]: r9 
SuperSente [?\]: all kyu games are chaos
FAKENEWSS: dan games are just as lame, most of the times
purp [4k\]: sure but the strategy or chaos as opposed to creating safe connected groups
twy1122 [6k\]: r7
mafutrct [-\]: if r9 p10 o9, lz suggests hane instead of block
evave [5k\]: all kyu games are soul stone games ... we randomely sacrifice hald stones :P
VerySlow [1k\]: in terms of points white is still ok, will depend on if white gets R17
VerySlow [1k\]: or C17
purp [4k\]: sacrifice yes randomly trying not
VerySlow [1k\]: O10 looks so mean
FAKENEWSS: it feels like w is two moves behind
purp [4k\]: yep for a while
]
;B[pi]BL[1362.474]C[VerySlow [1k\]: geez
evave [5k\]: r9 
VerySlow [1k\]: black's plan's going so smoothly
VerySlow [1k\]: everything is even better than expected
VerySlow [1k\]: erased the bottom, made P6 alive
VerySlow [1k\]: protecting the two upper corners (soon?)
VerySlow [1k\]: still possible to reduce the lower left corner
profRapha [4k\]: Is black sacrificing P6 to build a wall toward the corner? Or just really trying to kill Q8 whites's group?
]
;W[oj]WL[878.499]C[ctdogpdf: trying to build a wall
evave [5k\]: I think this was kinda overplay for b - Q11
Prodigy [9d\]: not a sacrifice 
Prodigy [9d\]: don't forget about n5
nidsa: r11
ctdogpdf: no need to sac p6
purp [4k\]: alive
]
;B[oi]BL[1337.324]C[profRapha [4k\]: HMMM
profRapha [4k\]: thx
Prodigy [9d\]: w is in trouble
FAKENEWSS: because of the cut?
VerySlow [1k\]: I don't see clearly w's strategy other than: sxxxx
Prodigy [9d\]: wonder where leela says w should play 
VerySlow [1k\]: "what am I doing"
mafutrct [-\]: it says cut
purp [4k\]: its been a while on kgs that I've witnessed a 9d getting handled nicely.  what a treat.
Prodigy [9d\]: 1p* 
]
;W[ni]WL[792.192]C[purp [4k\]: why does not kgs show 1p
VerySlow [1k\]: she was 1p in 2014 too
purp [4k\]: maybe she's a 3p
Prodigy [9d\]: still 1p
VerySlow [1k\]: we went to the beach together once
purp [4k\]: the point is shes's a pro?
VerySlow [1k\]: with a French player
VerySlow [1k\]: :D
nidsa: pog?
nidsa: pog champ
]
;B[nk]BL[1287.832]C[Prodigy [9d\]: wow
purp [4k\]: so the body making the moves is real
mafutrct [-\]: lz says b made a couple big mistakes recently
purp [4k\]: which moves
VerySlow [1k\]: I've met some Chinese go players who would only date guys who are better than they are at go lol
purp [4k\]: awesome
purp [4k\]: thats how i feel about meeting a girl
mafutrct [-\]: q11 at r9, and o9 at r11
purp [4k\]: tough in usa
VerySlow [1k\]: haha
VerySlow [1k\]: u should attend the US Go Congress :)
VerySlow [1k\]: lots of cool people
purp [4k\]: in ny?
purp [4k\]: i'm in oakland
VerySlow [1k\]: it was in NY in 2014
VerySlow [1k\]: it keeps changing every year
purp [4k\]: but bay area has lots of great players
purp [4k\]: of course from asia
evave [5k\]: ok purp .. see u tonight then
purp [4k\]: bu there
purp [4k\]: here
SuperSente [?\]: Next Go Congress is Michigan I think?
xedover [?\]: Wisconsin
purp [4k\]: how cool
purp [4k\]: i'im from illinois so i miss your hot summer nights
purp [4k\]: california is cool
purp [4k\]: chilly
evave [5k\]: California is awesome ... winters are so refreshing
]
;W[nl]WL[544.914]C[purp [4k\]: winters are non existent compared to four season places
purp [4k\]: but the mountains are amazing
purp [4k\]: californai is awesome always
evave [5k\]: Well ... i dont want more winter than this :P
profRapha [4k\]: EVEN if white play at O8, blach can play at M8 and cut something off. that would work prodigy??
purp [4k\]: me too  even less
purp [4k\]: heading south
purp [4k\]: evave east bay
KuroItsugi [1k\]: m8 ? I'd say m9 for the shape if your goal is to fight
purp [4k\]: ?
KuroItsugi [1k\]: but b can get more with pressuring w
evave [5k\]: m9 
profRapha [4k\]: to greedy and the two stones die right?
squid [13k?\]: o8
squid [13k?\]: or o7
Prodigy [9d\]: m9 ? 
Prodigy [9d\]: no nvm
]
;B[mi]BL[1043.425]C[evave [5k\]: Purp check pm
]
;W[nh]WL[523.136]
;B[og]BL[1042.365]C[evave [5k\]: W looks so sad. I would give up
squid [13k?\]: running out of times they can take 10 minutes per move
agcStupGod [9d\]: R7 for w?
Prodigy [9d\]: seems like only choice 
evave [5k\]: WHy R7 work?
nidsa: r7, s7,q7,s6
nidsa: nothing there
agcStupGod [9d\]: in the future r9 n10 would be easier
evave [5k\]: N5 open .. 
KuroItsugi [1k\]: guys, try to read, don't wait for the answer
FAKENEWSS: n10 
FAKENEWSS: b gets fat on to
FAKENEWSS: top
tomato1234 [2d\]: <
sunbunny6 [3k\]: funny 88 people watching girls and 10-25 people watching the boys
FAKENEWSS: how is that relevant or funny
tomato1234 [2d\]: lol
crazyeight [8d\]: not even sure what you're talking about...
Prodigy [9d\]: what boys? 
SuperSente [?\]: One of the girls is FengYun 9P, seemed like a natural choice to me
nidsa: b o y s
evave [5k\]: who girls?
crazyeight [8d\]: I don't even know what the gender of the players are
evave [5k\]: Yes .. same here. WHo cares
U [-\]: its because this game is at the top of the list because they have ranks
U [-\]: and the others have no rank so theyre at bottom
U [-\]: naturally people will watch top game, and its a 9p on top of that
crazyeight [8d\]: ooh, the cloudnotes game?
U [-\]: yeah its andy vs ryan down there
nidsa: where is that
U [-\]: also hyang and minki
nidsa: why cant we find those games
sunbunny6 [3k\]: bottem of the list
jinglejin: im back, whos winning?
nidsa: i tgx'
nidsa: thx
U [-\]: minki is ahn dalhoon 9p it looks like
VerySlow [1k\]: looks tough for w
sunbunny6 [3k\]: yeah
xedover [?\]: the games are in the AGA Tournaments room
jinglejin: w needs to win this
evave [5k\]: Oh damn
]
;W[rl]WL[31.066]C[evave [5k\]: WHy those not showing up in all games?
]
;B[qm]BL[1012.147]C[U [-\]: its a 5 round double elimination tournament. top 2 players will represent the US in the tianfu cup in china
]
;W[rk]WL[22.096]C[nidsa: ah ha
nidsa: i foudn the other two games
sunbunny6 [3k\]: 3
sunbunny6 [3k\]: other 3 games
KuroItsugi [1k\]: aiming at n10 sente ?
U [-\]: theres a 4th game thats not on the list, between mingjiu and i think eric lui
VerySlow [1k\]: makes any move near R14 threatening
SuperSente [?\]: Eric is Sentinel
KuroItsugi [1k\]: if b r11
evave [5k\]: What is W trying to do ?
VerySlow [1k\]: trying to either make an eye
VerySlow [1k\]: or creating aji I guess
evave [5k\]: Where? .. where do you see eye with S9
VerySlow [1k\]: it can also lead to gote black
twy1122 [6k\]: n5
VerySlow [1k\]: Q9 potentially 
VerySlow [1k\]: black can also let white lives
VerySlow [1k\]: and get a wall at N13
VerySlow [1k\]: live
Geologik [1k\]: just r9
VerySlow [1k\]: too slow imo
KuroItsugi [1k\]: w has komi + cash, even if b seems to have a better position, it's still very close I think
VerySlow [1k\]: B wants something cool
Prodigy [9d\]: no, b is far ahead 
twy1122 [6k\]: 2 slow
sunbunny6 [3k\]: n5?
purp [4k\]: w putting some good pressure
VerySlow [1k\]: w is crying for life, black can say no! let's see how peaceful or aggressive black is :D
VerySlow [1k\]: they are thinking already about the F16 area I guess
purp [4k\]: n5 before desireable?
VerySlow [1k\]: how many moves do a good pro read within 1 min in general?
VerySlow [1k\]: I'm stuck to 5 moves ahead or smth lol
evave [5k\]: I do depth 34
errsfsi: only one move
errsfsi: but it's always the right move
VerySlow [1k\]: 2:48
VerySlow [1k\]: Finally going to see some speedy moves? :D
twy1122 [6k\]: r9?
]
;B[qk]BL[34.684]C[crazyeight [8d\]: oops
]
;W[qj]WL[14.755]
;B[ri]BL[33.477]
;W[qi]WL[30]OW[10]
;B[rh]BL[30.824]
;W[oh]WL[30]OW[9]
;B[ph]BL[25.22]C[crazyeight [8d\]: spent 15 minutes on that move, and she chose r9, huh?
nidsa: seems fine
]
;W[qh]WL[30]OW[9]
;B[pg]BL[23.512]C[nidsa: let w take s12
nidsa: black ladders outside
nidsa: gg
indianayk [2d?\]: s7
]
;W[rm]WL[30]OW[9]C[indianayk [2d?\]: n5,r3
indianayk [2d?\]: r13
FAKENEWSS: oh really
nidsa: nah r13 kinda small
nidsa: black will n5 then white will n12
FAKENEWSS: i vote with nidsa
nidsa: thx m8
nidsa: im running for prez this year
nidsa: ill be looking for your vote
FAKENEWSS: you are not fake news
nidsa: :)
]
;B[qg]BL[30]OB[8]C[crazyeight [8d\]: wow
VerySlow [1k\]: nice sacrifice
indianayk [2d?\]: r13 is bigger than n5
]
;W[mo]WL[30]OW[9]
;B[ll]BL[30]OB[8]C[FAKENEWSS: bang
nidsa: alright
nidsa: n9
]
;W[mk]WL[30]OW[8]C[nidsa: o wait
nidsa: m9
nidsa: and then seal
nidsa: but
nidsa: not enough lib
nidsa: might be worth it to sac and get a wall
nidsa: but why go so complicated when already winning
melan [1d\]: cut
FAKENEWSS: q16 is offplace
]
;B[ml]BL[30]OB[7]C[crazyeight [8d\]: black's not winning anymore
nidsa: ya
FAKENEWSS: not sure the sacrife was worth it
nidsa: thats my point
nidsa: o
]
;W[mj]WL[30]OW[8]C[nidsa: poggers
nidsa: but i still think
nidsa: its better just to n
nidsa: 5
]
;B[nm]BL[30]OB[7]C[crazyeight [8d\]: white hasn't counted libs
]
;W[lm]WL[30]OW[8]C[Sorry [8d\]: does black win this?
crazyeight [8d\]: no
nidsa: lul
Sorry [8d\]: ouch
]
;B[lk]BL[30]OB[7]C[nidsa: i expect to see a paypal deliver ysoon
BadPotato [2d?\]: b didn't count either
]
;W[lj]WL[30]OW[8]C[nidsa: blaxk has like 3 libs
nidsa: lmao
]
;B[kk]BL[30]OB[7]C[indianayk [2d?\]: b was greedy?
crazyeight [8d\]: black has an extra lib at p9 too, but it's not enough
]
;W[km]WL[30]OW[8]C[atltimtim [5d\]: wait doesnt b win the semeai
crazyeight [8d\]: no
nidsa: lol no
Sorry [8d\]: a shame
Sorry [8d\]: b lost control
KuroItsugi [1k\]: q6 first
nidsa: more like b tossed for no reason lol
Sorry [8d\]: ^
FAKENEWSS: dominated the game
]
;B[mg]BL[30]OB[6]C[FAKENEWSS: yet lost
nidsa: xD
FAKENEWSS: this is the worst kind of loss
]
;W[kj]WL[30]OW[8]C[nidsa: probs recieved a paypal payment for it tho, so no worries
]
;B[jk]BL[30]OB[6]
;W[im]WL[30]OW[8]
;B[jj]BL[30]OB[6]C[atltimtim [5d\]: o oops i suck at counting libs
nidsa: tbh tho
nidsa: if black gets a thick wall
nidsa: and sente
nidsa: winnable
]
;W[mh]WL[30]OW[8]C[nidsa: but that seems hard
crazyeight [8d\]: not unless white makes more large mistakes
nidsa: ya
nidsa: who knows
AlphaG0 [-\]: "if"
nidsa: b tossed pretty hard
]
;B[hm]BL[30]OB[6]C[squid [13k?\]: huh?
KuroItsugi [1k\]: when did b make a mistake ?
]
;W[il]WL[30]OW[8]C[nidsa: not playing n5 lul
crazyeight [8d\]: r9
crazyeight [8d\]: and then at r13
]
;B[hl]BL[30]OB[6]C[U [-\]: nidsa could you not be so rude please, thanks
nidsa: coulda just n5 not r9
nidsa: actually makes no sense
FAKENEWSS: he fell for the s8 trick
nidsa: not really
nidsa: she not didnt read this right
]
;W[io]WL[30]OW[8]C[VerySlow [1k\]: finally looks more like a kyu killing game at least :D
AlphaG0 [-\]: r9 @ n5
nidsa: ya
nidsa: simple and easy
nidsa: spends 15 min
nidsa: and tosses the game
nidsa: lol
FAKENEWSS: maybe something came up
crazyeight [8d\]: I guess black was under a lot of pressure and stress
nidsa: a paypal
FAKENEWSS: lol
]
;B[jr]BL[30]OB[5]C[U [-\]: its too bad these games bring out all the trolls
]
;W[in]WL[30]OW[8]C[squid [13k?\]: m11
]
;B[jp]BL[30]OB[5]C[nidsa: U lol?
]
;W[lh]WL[30]OW[8]C[U [-\]: yes im asking oyu to not troll in here
indianayk [2d?\]: seems to be over
]
;B[de]BL[30]OB[5]C[nidsa: you sound mad
FAKENEWSS: it is kind of over
VerySlow [1k\]: finally !
nidsa: im kibitzing normally
]
;W[bd]WL[30]OW[8]C[U [-\]: youre mocking both the players and the people asking questions in here
FAKENEWSS: q16 feels so uncomfortable
]
;B[dh]BL[30]OB[5]C[nidsa: lol?
nidsa: come pm me, dont ruin the chat in here
U [-\]: you already ruined the chat in here
]
;W[ch]WL[30]OW[8]
;B[ce]BL[30]OB[5]C[crazyeight [8d\]: c12 was a small mistake
AlphaG0 [-\]: nidsa, dont feed the trolls (U)
nidsa: thanks man
nidsa: ill mute him
xedover [?\]: guys... lets focus on the game please
nidsa: so if black plays l11 and then l13
nidsa: can he win
]
;W[di]WL[30]OW[7]
;B[bf]BL[30]OB[5]C[U [-\]: ill never understand why guests are allowed to chat. oh well
FAKENEWSS: c12 couldve been at c13
nidsa: black certainly trying hard
nidsa: might have a chance in byomomi
KuroItsugi [1k\]: he is taking risks to come back 
slime: what da hell was d11
]
;W[ei]WL[30]OW[6]
;B[fj]BL[30]OB[5]C[KuroItsugi [1k\]: d11 is attacking b group
nidsa: nah honestly d11 was a bit greedy
nidsa: coulda just connected 
nidsa: now its more complicated
Prodigy [9d\]: prevent b from sealing in sente
nidsa: and when u winning
]
;W[be]WL[30]OW[6]
;B[cg]BL[30]OB[5]C[nidsa: you dont want to complicate things tbh
]
;W[bg]WL[30]OW[6]
;B[df]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[af]WL[30]OW[6]
;B[bh]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[cf]WL[30]OW[6]
;B[os]BL[30]OB[5]C[FAKENEWSS: oh?
Prodigy [9d\]: ko threat 
nidsa: ya
nidsa: r1 = all dead
]
;W[or]WL[30]OW[6]
;B[bf]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ag]WL[30]OW[6]C[nidsa: so
Prodigy [9d\]: b17 ?
]
;B[ah]BL[30]OB[5]C[BadPotato [2d?\]: not a great ko
nidsa: its fine
nidsa: black has lots of threats xD
]
;W[cf]WL[30]OW[6]C[UBIK [2k\]: whos leading?
Prodigy [9d\]: w is ahead
nidsa: white is
nidsa: but
nidsa: i think black has a chance
UBIK [2k\]: i see
]
;B[ki]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[li]WL[30]OW[6]
;B[bf]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ae]WL[30]OW[6]
;B[bc]BL[30]OB[5]C[nidsa: so does black seal with l14 or just take the side
]
;W[cf]WL[30]OW[6]C[nidsa: at like k16 or somethin
FAKENEWSS: would k16 be enough?
]
;B[ns]BL[30]OB[5]C[nidsa: not sure
nidsa: let me count
FAKENEWSS: doesnt look like it would
Prodigy [9d\]: depends on how much of that side can become territory
]
;W[qs]WL[30]OW[6]
;B[bf]BL[30]OB[5]C[FAKENEWSS: w can reduce calmly
BadPotato [2d?\]: sealing is gote, so not good enough
crazyeight [8d\]: top is too open to expect more than half of it to become territory
nidsa: white has 50 in that corner, + around 20 in bottom left and side + prisoners
nidsa: + komi
]
;W[cd]WL[30]OW[6]
;B[dd]BL[30]OB[5]C[lonepeak: was so ez game for black but somehow he lost so many. 
nidsa: black needs around 55 on the top side to be even, not counting the top right corner
nidsa: so ya
nidsa: i would play l14
]
;W[cf]WL[30]OW[6]C[nidsa: and go for it
Herod [-\]: kindly don't flood the commentary
nidsa: otherwise unwinnable
nidsa: nobody flooding lol
nidsa: chill
squid [13k?\]: 91 viewing
squid [13k?\]: 89 viewing
]
;B[jd]BL[30]OB[3]C[FAKENEWSS: oh w cant ignore
CADoubtJk [2d\]: hey does anyone know where the mingjiu game is
]
;W[dg]WL[30]OW[6]C[Prodigy [9d\]: aga tourney room.
KoyoToya [1d\]: It's over
crazyeight [8d\]: white can win the ko and try to split off the top left
]
;B[oc]BL[30]OB[3]C[FAKENEWSS: k17 ?
nidsa: black doesnt have enough
xedover [?\]: mingjiu game just ended
KoyoToya [1d\]: Mingjiu lost to Eric
FAKENEWSS: h16 or k17 
FAKENEWSS: maybe neither
crazyeight [8d\]: h17
AlphaG0 [-\]: b winning now
]
;W[hk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fm]BL[30]OB[3]C[nidsa: white has 95, black has... idk 70
]
;W[kf]WL[30]OW[4]C[nidsa: not really close
]
;B[ik]BL[30]OB[3]C[ctdogpdf: gg
]
;W[gk]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ji]BL[30]OB[3]C[nidsa: what is white doing
nidsa: giving black a chance
]
;W[fl]WL[30]OW[3]C[Lolita [1d\]: over
lonepeak: mb black will make another big mistake
]
;B[gm]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[em]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[el]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hn]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[fk]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gn]WL[30]OW[3]C[FAKENEWSS: hm?
crazyeight [8d\]: no more semeai
FAKENEWSS: this was pretty nice actually
]
;B[lg]BL[30]OB[2]C[nidsa: doesnt have to fill libs
FAKENEWSS: h16 maybe
]
;W[kh]WL[30]OW[3]C[RainierBob [?\]: mingjiu lost to Eric Lui (Sentinel)
]
;B[kg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jh]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[jg]BL[30]OB[2]C[nidsa: h11
nidsa: or uh
]
;W[ig]WL[30]OW[3]C[FAKENEWSS: haha
nidsa: just hane
]
;B[ih]BL[30]OB[2]C[nidsa: o my
]
;W[hh]WL[30]OW[3]C[Prodigy [9d\]: lovely 
FAKENEWSS: another ko?
nidsa: h10
]
;B[hj]BL[30]OB[2]C[crazyeight [8d\]: white's out for more blood, huh
nidsa: take, j14
]
;W[ii]WL[30]OW[3]C[nidsa: or wait
]
;B[gj]BL[30]OB[2]C[FAKENEWSS: h16 seems apropriated now
AlphaG0 [-\]: no waiting
]
;W[ng]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[nf]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hd]WL[30]OW[3]C[nidsa: esp not in byomi
]
;B[jf]BL[30]OB[2]C[nidsa: j15
BadPotato [2d?\]: b can res soon
]
;W[ie]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[je]BL[30]OB[2]C[nidsa: f18
FAKENEWSS: e18 
FAKENEWSS: f
]
;W[ic]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[if]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hf]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[jc]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ib]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[gc]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gd]WL[30]OW[3]C[nidsa: gg
nidsa: nice comeback
]
;B[gb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[cc]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[cb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[bb]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ba]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ab]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[eg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[eh]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[gf]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[he]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[gg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hg]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[fd]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[kb]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[jb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ja]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[lb]BL[30]OB[2]C[VerySlow [1k\]: if B3
VerySlow [1k\]: then over
]
;W[kc]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[la]BL[30]OB[2]C[sunbunny6 [3k\]: ?
]
;W[ka]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[lc]BL[30]OB[2]C[sunbunny6 [3k\]: why b3
]
;W[kd]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ld]BL[30]OB[2]C[VerySlow [1k\]: last big point with D18
]
;W[ke]WL[30]OW[3]C[nidsa: black could get both and still lose
]
;B[eb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hr]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[bq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[br]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ap]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[bl]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[bm]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[is]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[kq]BL[30]OB[2]C[lonepeak: 25pts dead group was too big
]
;W[fe]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ge]BL[30]OB[2]C[VerySlow [1k\]: solely for R13
VerySlow [1k\]: avoiding the threats at R14 etc
]
;W[fc]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ed]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fg]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[2]C[VerySlow [1k\]: should have let white make her eyes at Q9
VerySlow [1k\]: :D
]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[ee]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gh]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[eg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fn]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[gl]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[rn]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[sn]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[eg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[rg]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[rf]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[sk]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[sj]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[eg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[le]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[me]BL[30]OB[2]C[Jermelle [?\]: This game is still going on? Wow. What a change.
]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[si]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[sm]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[eg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[md]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[nd]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[fe]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ar]WL[30]OW[3]C[nat1dpm: Bh19
]
;B[al]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[bj]WL[30]OW[3]C[NateC [2d\]: How has the game changed?
]
;B[js]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hs]WL[30]OW[3]C[melan [1d\]: more stones
xedover [?\]: great game
AGATD [?\]: Thanks to both. See you tomorrow!
VerySlow [1k\]: gg
VerySlow [1k\]: thx!
njs [3d\]: gg
VerySlow [1k\]: really nice comeback
])
