(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[2014 US Open Masters Division - round 9 board 1 - Mark Lee 7d (w) vs Songyan Jiao 7d (b)]PW[Mark Lee]PB[Songyan Jiao]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2014-08-16]EV[2014 US Open Masters Division]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the final round of the US Open Masters Division at the US Go Congress, live from New York
USGO1 [-\]: For standings and results, see: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/170 (though I don't see last night's results posted yet)
USGO1 [-\]: less than 5 mins before start time, and there are no players in the room yet
USGO1 [-\]: The players are at the board, but they haven't been given the go ahead sign from the TD yet
ptitlou [2d\]:  I guess that even if Mark looses and Matthew win, Mark would win with SOS ?
USGO1 [-\]: not too many other players are here yet
donner [2d?\]: Mark Lee allready Master 2014
ligo [5k\]: mark wins because of head to head i think
edlee [1k\]: How many players are 7-1 currently ?
Ootakamoku [-\]: white is leading
ligo [5k\]: one one loss player
donner [2d?\]: Hu lost from Lee
Benzene [3d\]: mark's beaten all the pros?
donner [2d?\]: so far 
edlee [1k\]: Matthew is the only 7-1 currently, ligo ?
Benzene [3d\]: gets a nice easy amateur for his last game
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[cp]C[mdm [2k\]: mark lee still undefeated?
LiXiaolu [5d\]: yep, already the champ
ligo [5k\]: yes
USGO1 [-\]: I know a few of the results from last night's games, we'll get the crosstabs updated soon
]
;W[pd]C[donner [2d?\]: see crostab
compendium [?\]: there are no 1 loss players
donner [2d?\]: no other player can reach 7-1
edlee [1k\]: ah, nobody is 7-1
]
;B[dd]
;W[pq]
;B[fq]C[Benzene [3d\]: matthew hu lost to someone else?
LiXiaolu [5d\]: a 3p
donner [2d?\]: conner li
]
;W[cf]C[ligo [5k\]: sorry i got the chinese and nick names wrong 
ligo [5k\]: crosstabs just updated
USGO1 [-\]: for the latest AGA news and events, sign up for the E-Journal: http://www.usgo.org/american-go-e-journal
]
;B[fc]
;W[bd]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: c12?
ligo [5k\]: the game commentary last night was great
Tien [-\]: Too bad, didn't get b17
Tien [-\]: Would've been a fun change
ptitlou [2d\]: what was final count for mark yesterday game vs bbw ?
]
;B[nc]
;W[gd]C[LiXiaolu [5d\]: resign
steady [2d?\]: 5points~
ptitlou [2d\]: ok thx
steady [2d?\]: but yea resign
goBum [?\]: will there be live commentary later?
Ootakamoku [-\]: this seems like a popular choice lately
Benzene [3d\]: lee sedol played it
grumpyjoe [-\]: this is a joseki?
ligo [5k\]: usually comments start in an hour
Ootakamoku [-\]: everything lee sedolk plays is joseki
Ootakamoku [-\]: if not before, then after
grumpyjoe [-\]: or situational play
SnC [2k\]: why g16?
Ootakamoku [-\]: snc, because b will later look slightly overconcentrated
Novalys [2d\]: Funny move
BagaLutti [6d\]: seems like Mark like this move
bert [2d?\]: katatsuke
BagaLutti [6d\]: already played it in another game
Tien [-\]: bert, clean up what?
grumpyjoe [-\]: what is typical b response?
donner [2d?\]: lee sedol endgame moves are also joseki
bert [2d?\]: shoulder hit
grumpyjoe [-\]: d14?
Tien [-\]: That's katatsuki
Ootakamoku [-\]: grumpyjoe, f16, I think g17 considered slightly timid
ligo [5k\]: i have the impression that if you are say 6-2, you may only have made 2 errors
grumpyjoe [-\]: what responses have you seen
Ootakamoku [-\]: grumpyjoe, those shoyld be the only possible moves
USGO1 [-\]: Sonyyan crosses his arms across the table as he leans in towards the board
Prodigious [-\]: i've seen g17 in some pro games at least
ligo [5k\]: ie at this torny,anything just a bit wrong is fatal
SnC [2k\]: i like g17 cash
USGO1 [-\]: one can hardly notice an ever so slight nodding of his head as his eye scan the board
Tien [-\]: I'd prefer to go up with f16
USGO1 [-\]: *eyes
goBum [?\]: eye eye captain
Benzene [3d\]: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=162997#p162997
Benzene [3d\]: here is lee sedol game with this move
USGO1 [-\]: Mark takes the same posture for a moment, but the leans back in his chair, staring at the board
jinroo [3d?\]: did Mark Lee play other tournaments before in the US ? or is it his first time ?
goBum [?\]: what do you call that enclosure at f3 again? how would you approach it?
SnC [2k\]: next move is important for whole game
goBum [?\]: g17
Ootakamoku [-\]: gobum, but not approaching it doo directly or closel
indianayk [5d\]: thank you benzene for providing lee sedol game. i never imagined the variation
USGO1 [-\]: Sonyyan's game last night was one of the last to finish, so this seems rather typical to be thinking for so long
profan [-\]: is g16 typo?
Ootakamoku [-\]: no, its a popular joseki choice
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;B[fd]
;W[ge]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: well, that might be stretching popular, and probably joseki too but..
USGO1 [-\]: I have missclicked in the past, but this is the actual board position
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;B[ef]C[profan [-\]: korean joseki?
]
;W[dh]
;B[hb]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: r14 or would it be possible to play something like k16?
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;W[qf]C[joh4d [2d\]: looks better for white
okiol [-\]: this mark lee guy sure seems to play a lot
Ootakamoku [-\]: q18 r17 m16 c8 q5? 
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;B[cj]C[okiol [-\]: i think he's played on the most popular game every time i see the USGO games up
profan [-\]: is r16 for black joseki?
Ootakamoku [-\]: oh, preventing it was that important..
grumpyjoe [-\]: this is nice
profan [-\]: c10 for w would be a very strong shape maybe it also works good with c4 f3, more than d10 in this case
okiol [-\]: c10 for w would be too close though
okiol [-\]: p17
Frostgiant [2d\]: okiol, and allow b to play b12?
nebulous [1k\]: Sony misprint for Song?
profan [-\]: time to move g15?
profan [-\]: k17?
okiol [-\]: that is a good point, frostgiant, didn't realise how big b12 is
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;W[ci]
;B[dj]
;W[fh]C[goBum [?\]: wow
indianayk [5d\]: a difficult answer for w since c12 looks too crunched
okiol [-\]: wouldn't b12 have been the shape move rather than c12 in that case, indiana?
profan [-\]: f12 is good for g15 also now biggest move is r5/q5?
herissondu [4d\]: i prefer b12 than c11
okiol [-\]: q5 is big, but r17 is also quite big
okiol [-\]: i don't think that b wants to be pushed towards that top side
Frostgiant [2d\]: I would understand b11, but b12 would just look weird to me
okiol [-\]: but on the other hand even if w pushes, top side is soo uninteresting that b probably tenuki that anyway
grumpyjoe [-\]: c11 absolute sente
herissondu [4d\]: no, b is sente now
Kaskai [4k\]: so..mark lee going for a win in the tour
steady [2d?\]: b11 is not nessacery
profan [-\]: w has not interest movint top, h18 makes top side little now (im waiting for next w move on top :) to confirm my theory
herissondu [4d\]: r5
herissondu [4d\]: or something around n4
herissondu [4d\]: but it's not easy to make a moyo here
okiol [-\]: maybe just l4, and if white blocks corner take sente?
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;B[kq]C[wurfmaul [1d\]: nebulous, in http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/170 it's written Sonyyan too
okiol [-\]: yaay close
joh4d [2d\]: l4 better?
herissondu [4d\]: 3d libe is a bit wierd
herissondu [4d\]: n*
edlee [1k\]: wurf, could be a typo there too :)
wurfmaul [1d\]: yes, could be
ligo [5k\]: q5?
okiol [-\]: atleast third line can move to fifth line
Frostgiant [2d\]: with l4 n3 is a bit too easy way to respond I think
okiol [-\]: also i have no idea how the c4 f3 corner works out
USGO1 [-\]: I'll wait until later to ask him if we've misspelled his name
herissondu [4d\]: d7 is a good invasion point
herissondu [4d\]: and k4 too
profan [-\]: now what better between q5 and r5 for w?
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;W[fo]C[herissondu [4d\]: and f5 :-)
edlee [1k\]: dennis, yea, it's a highly unusual spelling  :)
okiol [-\]: r5 between those two i'd say, profan
herissondu [4d\]: i prefer q5
herissondu [4d\]: matter of taste
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;B[do]C[profan [-\]: maybe im wrong, but isnt a bit earlier to recuce with f5 now?
profan [-\]: *reduce
]
;W[fm]C[okiol [-\]: i think one thing to take into consideration is that d10 can become weak quite quickly, so the reduction gets some nice sente
herissondu [4d\]: i agree with you profan
profan [-\]: g10 now let's go :)
herissondu [4d\]: but nobody can say f5 is  bad move^^
]
;B[dm]
;W[gq]C[BingOne [6k\]: attack l
BingOne [6k\]: l3
herissondu [4d\]: yes okiol, that's why i prefer d7 than f5
herissondu [4d\]: l3 can't be attacked easily
herissondu [4d\]: because o3 is always possible
profan [-\]: r5 first than start the deep attack :)
okiol [-\]: i guess it's all about how much w can get out of threatening to attack d10
herissondu [4d\]: i want b to tenuki
oliolioli [3k\]: q5 now?
]
;B[gr]
;W[fr]C[okiol [-\]: wow tenuki seems crazy :p
profan [-\]: black cannot play o3 now
herissondu [4d\]: as b i don't want to let b play q5
herissondu [4d\]: w wants sente
okiol [-\]: sure, both players always wants sente
herissondu [4d\]: or to get a move around j3 to make the o3 q5 exchange
profan [-\]: h3! because is atari :)
herissondu [4d\]: not always^^
okiol [-\]: "always atari in crosscuts" that's what the proverb says, right?
herissondu [4d\]: right
USGO1 [-\]: Its been a great week here in New York City. Too bad this is the last round/day.
herissondu [4d\]: g4 is tempting
profan [-\]: i tought proverb was always atari :)
Daurak [8k\]: Wish I could have made it!  Glad everyone is enjoying it!
wurfmaul [1d\]: profan, yes, everyone already agrees on that
ligo [5k\]: next year which city
steady [2d?\]: st paul
Daurak [8k\]: Could someone tell me the players time setting?
okiol [-\]: alternatives>rules
Daurak [8k\]: Minnesota
steady [2d?\]: i think is 2 hour
steady [2d?\]: or 1 30
steady [2d?\]: not sure
profan [-\]: are they playng in NY?
okiol [-\]: it says 90 under their names ^^
okiol [-\]: plus byo yomi
herissondu [4d\]: 90 hours?
steady [2d?\]: well
RoundTuit [3k\]: okiol.... he's using the Android cliet
Daurak [8k\]: Thanks.  Minute byo?
herissondu [4d\]: wow
oliolioli [3k\]: is this final?
steady [2d?\]: well when i was in congress
sampo [8k\]: and 7.5 komi?
herissondu [4d\]: i'm so funny
steady [2d?\]: these games were all longer than normal
RoundTuit [3k\]: 90 minutes?
BingOne [6k\]: 90secondes
USGO1 [-\]: Next year will be in St Paul, Minnesota, http://www.usgo.org/news/2014/08/2015-congress-website-launches/
Daurak [8k\]: Kk
okiol [-\]: 90 minutes plus byo yomi yes
herissondu [4d\]: can't you make the next us go congress in europe?
steady [2d?\]: right there are 21340 members in aga
herissondu [4d\]: that would be great
steady [2d?\]: i think
kle: what's Mark Lee's 7d, KGS?
Daurak [8k\]: Or CA?  :)
steady [2d?\]: right now*
wurfmaul [1d\]: so, what are b's choices here? e3 and g4?
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;B[gp]C[RoundTuit [3k\]: uh... but then it wouldn't be a US Go Congress.....
]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]C[okiol [-\]: the ratings shown usually is their IRL ratings
Huumm [6k\]: it could
kle: i'll google irl, :P
okiol [-\]: in real life
Herod [-\]: 21,000 people have joined the AGA at some time in past several decades, steady
]
;W[hp]
;B[fp]C[Herod [-\]: Maybe a tenth that number are current
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;W[er]C[profan [-\]: j3 
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;B[ir]
;W[ep]
;B[go]
;W[eo]C[BingOne [6k\]: i like white
]
;B[gn]
;W[dp]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: nice mive
kle: I thought amature only go up to 6d
kle: IRS
kle: IRL*
]
;B[co]
;W[gm]C[herissondu [4d\]: to 8
bdnelson22 [5k\]: i like black actually
herissondu [4d\]: 8d
RoundTuit [3k\]: amateur goes up to 9d in places
okiol [-\]: different rating systems, for example AGA goes up to 9d i think
kle: OK, tx
okiol [-\]: i don't know where mark lee is from
qpqpqp [3k\]: european goes to 7d
herissondu [4d\]: 8d
qpqpqp [3k\]: really?
herissondu [4d\]: yes
grumpyjoe [-\]: cut works?
herissondu [4d\]: theya re 3 or 4 8d
donner [2d?\]: origin korea
RoundTuit [3k\]: there are amateur 9d in Japan.... but they are honorary ranks
ChemBoy613 [-\]: Aga has 9d ratings but no 9d ranks
herissondu [4d\]: fan hui, dai junfu, cho seok bin, and inseong i think
okiol [-\]: all ranks above 2k are honorary ranks in sweden
herissondu [4d\]: there is only 1 9d in japan isn't it?
RoundTuit [3k\]: no... several
herissondu [4d\]: i thought it was only the winner of some top ama tournament
herissondu [4d\]: like judan
RoundTuit [3k\]: used to be like that, maybe
RoundTuit [3k\]: but there is inflation in ranks in Japan
Riptide [5d\]: prefer B here
oliolioli [3k\]: i would play j5 without thinking here
herissondu [4d\]: b will be sente
joh4d [2d\]: e7
Daurak [8k\]: I thought it was interesting how there was a 13 dan according to Go Seigen
okiol [-\]: b sente? that lokos difficult
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;B[cr]C[herissondu [4d\]: just j5
herissondu [4d\]: hmm
]
;W[em]C[fujiyama [7k\]: just d3
herissondu [4d\]: really nice
okiol [-\]: oh like this now i believe in sente
profan [-\]: f10 :)
herissondu [4d\]: d8 looks important
oliolioli [3k\]: yea i wouldn't want white to play d8
Frostgiant [2d\]: d8 looks passive to me
joh4d [2d\]: d8 important
Frostgiant [2d\]: but I guess allowing w to play it gives w too good shape
herissondu [4d\]: w d8 is painful
okiol [-\]: right, d8 only seems useful if b has ambitions to attack f7
kle: d8 or j5
okiol [-\]: just r5 already
oliolioli [3k\]: j5 not needed anymore because of e7?
grumpyjoe [-\]: sorry, what does d8 do?
indianayk [5d\]: j5 is not efficient, since it leaves k4
herissondu [4d\]: d8 is shape
oliolioli [3k\]: e3 sorry
profan [-\]: d8 is too heavy
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;B[in]C[profan [-\]: if d8w black c7 isnt enough?
]
;W[im]C[simplet [3d\]: black c8 no
herissondu [4d\]: is b c7 w can cut the 2 stones
joh4d [2d\]: d8 c8
herissondu [4d\]: if*
kle: d8 b has to c8
herissondu [4d\]: yes
]
;B[jn]C[profan [-\]: no too many cuts with d8 c8?
simplet [3d\]: and white has no convincing follow up for the mment
herissondu [4d\]: but
herissondu [4d\]: maybe w prefers to f10
]
;W[qo]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: f10
Frostgiant [2d\]: profan, b can connect but w gets almost settled
herissondu [4d\]: so b g10 or f10
okiol [-\]: i was going to say that i like w's result, but to be honest... how much did he really accomplish?
okiol [-\]: i guess his result is fine, but b also got fine result
USGO1 [-\]: Mark takes his time placing that stone... slowly and deliberately
arts [2d\]: looks even to me
herissondu [4d\]: i prefer b
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;B[fj]C[kle: r5 says -- show me your attack skill :P
Daurak [8k\]: Thanks for the little comment.  Wish I was there to watch
]
;W[jm]
;B[km]C[profan [-\]: c7 wrong thanks for correction
]
;W[kl]
;B[jl]C[profan [-\]: k8 is greedy?
ChemBoy613 [-\]: bold, at least
herissondu [4d\]: no, b is strong everywhere
arts [2d\]: the cut is nice with f10
herissondu [4d\]: he can do anything he wants
okiol [-\]: he should kill g7 then
herissondu [4d\]: stay realistic^^
profan [-\]: aniway now l6 seems forced isnt?
herissondu [4d\]: no
herissondu [4d\]: l6 is giving a stones
ChemBoy613 [-\]: white l6?
ChemBoy613 [-\]: seems insane
simplet [3d\]: cant atari on l7
indianayk [5d\]: h7
joh4d [2d\]: j8
ChemBoy613 [-\]: yeah it seems we must h7
grumpyjoe [-\]: b seems to be in control so far, no?
profan [-\]: if w cant fight or using g5 libs to stabilize groups this game is nowfor black
trumie [2d\]: what do we know about b?  does he live in US?  in China?
indianayk [5d\]: i also think b is doing fine so far
herissondu [4d\]: we know he is strong
herissondu [4d\]: that's enough
profan [-\]: if k8 is a real threat than you can say that l8 is not so good?
USGO1 [-\]: Sonyyan is from Shanghai China
herissondu [4d\]: yes
trumie [2d\]: thanks Dennis
profan [-\]: *then
indianayk [5d\]: w h7, b k9?
okiol [-\]: w h9 seems like the typical shape move?
okiol [-\]: but h7 is there...
herissondu [4d\]: no indiana
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;W[il]
;B[jk]
;W[dl]C[herissondu [4d\]: ok maybe
profan [-\]: w wants to attack top?
miao [6d\]: huh?
herissondu [4d\]: ah, d8
miao [6d\]: what is this?
miao [6d\]: c8 then what
herissondu [4d\]: h10 ?
miao [6d\]: h10 is a bit dangerous
herissondu [4d\]: hmm
herissondu [4d\]: you mean h10 j9 j10 m8 ?
]
;B[ik]C[indianayk [5d\]: d10 gives me a strange feeling
herissondu [4d\]: ah, close
profan [-\]: is aga 7d like korean 7d?
USGO1 [-\]: clack
miao [6d\]: aga 7d usually weaker
okiol [-\]: aga 7d should be like korean 5d?
profan [-\]: 7d is semipro?
okiol [-\]: because the aga ranks go higher, and korea have many strong amas who almost became pro and would probably be at pro level in america
grumpyjoe [-\]: w needed this move
]
;W[cm]
;B[dn]
;W[ek]C[profan [-\]: i think h6 is getting better now for w after cut on c7
profan [-\]: if w can play e3 sente isnt corner in danger?
okiol [-\]: e3 isn't sente, right?
profan [-\]: e3 is not sentenow
youoldgods [1d?\]: are you sure?
Herod [-\]: even if it were, what would be the followup?
USGO1 [-\]: Sonyyan takes a stone from the bowl, but then rests his hand across the top of the bowl. The stone slips from his fingers onto the table almost intentionally, falling silently onto the cloth covered table
profan [-\]: b8
]
;B[ej]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: thinks about d11?
]
;W[bl]C[simplet [3d\]: e3 threatens h8 with escape or ko
bug2 [3d\]: is b player chinese or japanese?
profan [-\]: now corner and center are under attack
mdm [2k\]: chinese
miao [6d\]: chinese
okiol [-\]: i think USGO1 secretly wants to write a novel
phewws: chinese
miao [6d\]: obviously
phewws: chinese
profan [-\]: and e3 l6 interesting for w
phewws: lag^^ sorry
youoldgods [1d?\]: l6 m7 e3 pass h6 h5 j5 
whybother [3d?\]: Hmm this white is really strong---korean insei?
mdm [2k\]: ex a-league insei
bug2 [3d\]: what is his chinese name? can someone show it in chinese
whybother [3d?\]: wow
okiol [-\]: does he still stand a chance of becoming pro?
globax [3d\]: h9-b10-c3 peaceful
whybother [3d?\]: in america, of ocurse
peakoil [1d\]: who is attacking whom here?
whybother [3d?\]: not in Korea
globax [3d\]: i would b11
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;B[bk]C[profan [-\]: is l6 sente? or black can tenuki?
]
;W[bn]
;B[bo]C[indianayk [5d\]: assuming w makes life here, i still like b for taking outside
]
;W[dr]C[whybother [3d?\]: gee
miao [6d\]: w will live
whybother [3d?\]: just as smooth as an engine
bug2 [3d\]: c3
whybother [3d?\]: B3
globax [3d\]: b3
Welvang [7d\]: sorry, where can i find the results of the main tournament (not masters) ?
whybother [3d?\]: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/170
whybother [3d?\]: Sorry
globax [3d\]: give no eye at d1 with c3
whybother [3d?\]: this is masters
mdm [2k\]: that's the masters
]
;B[bq]C[globax [3d\]: 8)
USGO1 [-\]: the main US Open standings are here: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/169
Welvang [7d\]: thanks
profan [-\]: now w has to kill g5? or center? :)
whybother [3d?\]: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/169
Herod [-\]: same site ending in 169 for rest of congress results
profan [-\]: k4 works?
Frostgiant [2d\]: works as in?
peakoil [1d\]: how does w live?
]
;W[hj]C[grindel [16k?\]: eye at a7?
peakoil [1d\]: whoah
peakoil [1d\]: h10 must be some super hi level move!
Loxios [2d\]: meh, he just want to go out and attack e10 
profan [-\]: or just extreme try  :)
indianayk [5d\]: h10 was not easy to find and play
Fenril [?\]: seems dangerous for f10 indeed
ChemBoy613 [-\]: h10 makes me feel like a child
]
;B[hk]C[Muttley [2k\]: w can drive b into g15
whybother [3d?\]: G10
]
;W[gk]C[USGO1 [-\]: Mark plays hesitatingly
peakoil [1d\]: h10 is good lesson to always look for attack even when defending
ChemBoy613 [-\]: i would have played g10 as well, WB
stud37 [3d\]: ko
profan [-\]: is w making 2 eyes? O.o
whybother [3d?\]: It actually would not work
whybother [3d?\]: B will F9 when we G10
ChemBoy613 [-\]: ah
ChemBoy613 [-\]: and then we will die
profan [-\]: or trying big eye vs eye little?
ChemBoy613 [-\]: how sad
whybother [3d?\]: sad?  haha
Loxios [2d\]: w wins the semeai by 1 lib
Loxios [2d\]: no i joke
USGO1 [-\]: Sonyyan looks up and inhales sharply
peakoil [1d\]: seems ko only way for w
Frostgiant [2d\]: there's no ko
peakoil [1d\]: or sacrifice left side
ChemBoy613 [-\]: well, w offers exchange
]
;B[gj]
;W[hi]C[profan [-\]: c9 f9 isnt enough for aseki?
profan [-\]: a seki or something that makes mutual life?
indianayk [5d\]: bloody ko?
lkjuio [5d\]: ko  unwinnable for black no ?
profan [-\]: why?
peakoil [1d\]: w has more threats?
Muttley [2k\]: looks like b needs to b7 eventually
lkjuio [5d\]: I think w would have 100 threats to get out
]
;B[bi]
;W[bh]
;B[cl]
;W[ck]
;B[dk]
;W[gl]
;B[cl]
;W[kn]C[peakoil [1d\]: threat 1 out of 100
lkjuio [5d\]: ^^
grindel [16k?\]: could white kill j9 shape to escape?
profan [-\]: l6 ^^
ChemBoy613 [-\]: that's why they say he has so many threats
]
;B[lm]
;W[ck]
;B[eh]
;W[eg]
;B[cl]
;W[ln]C[Muttley [2k\]: I bet b wins the ko
peakoil [1d\]: b already point-losing threats?
ChemBoy613 [-\]: ko is rather huge
grumpyjoe [-\]: he commited himself to the kill
sampo [8k\]: i dont get m6..
peakoil [1d\]: cannot give w the center
Muttley [2k\]: m6 threatens to capture either K8 or M7 to connect out
DrH0use [1d\]: take!
sampo [8k\]: ah ok
Muttley [2k\]: by doing so, w dominates the centre and right, and is far ahead
kle: trade now or no chance
Muttley [2k\]: eg take e8, n8 atari n9 k1 L10 and w will either take with K11 next, or the ladder on the b stones at M8 now works
Muttley [2k\]: its a common shape, sampo :)
simplet [3d\]: e8 not worth the threat
Muttley [2k\]: it be fair, it works directly
okiol [-\]: "it be fair" - caveman
peakoil [1d\]: "it be fair. it work directly" - better caveman
Muttley [2k\]: "ann unnn ug gnnnnnnn" - admin caveman
ChemBoy613 [-\]: black read deeper than chem.  chem stupid.
okiol [-\]: no offence but back in the days it seems like admins were much more stupid than their counterparts
Muttley [2k\]: come on, must n7
Muttley [2k\]: what do you mean, "back in the day"?
peakoil [1d\]: b has to take and suffer consequences. w has 98 more ko threats
herissondu [4d\]: so, what happened here
Muttley [2k\]: :)
peakoil [1d\]: h10 happened
herissondu [4d\]: nice
Muttley [2k\]: b chose to try to duke it out in ko, instead of trying to grovel out in crawl
herissondu [4d\]: it means he's confident
Muttley [2k\]: b resisted his inner kyu for the time being
okiol [-\]: as a contrast to now, ofcourse, where the admins have evolved way past the avarage user... must've eaten a lot of broccoli
youoldgods [1d?\]: 2k is above average? what is the average rank on kgs?
ChemBoy613 [-\]: it used to be 3k a few years ago
ChemBoy613 [-\]: right now idk
grumpyjoe [-\]: i think this is the first bloody game for w in this tournament
youoldgods [1d?\]: is white in a lot of trouble?
youoldgods [1d?\]: he has a lot of ko threats
indianayk [5d\]: this game makes me tired by just watching
okiol [-\]: that sentence changes context completely depending on wether you're english or american, grumpy
ChemBoy613 [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?KGSRankHistogram
ChemBoy613 [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?RatingHistogramComparisons
ChemBoy613 [-\]: a bit outdated
youoldgods [1d?\]: thanks, chem
Muttley [2k\]: mind you, n8 is interested to try to limit the ko threats
grindel [16k?\]: do the high dan viewers have a seperate room that they kibits in? 
]
;B[kj]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: center control is big
]
;W[ck]C[youoldgods [1d?\]: wms should write a script to calculate these statistics every month or so and post them
]
;B[fg]C[Herod [-\]: if only they did
]
;W[ei]
;B[cl]
;W[jp]
;B[ip]
;W[ck]
;B[gh]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: i would be so happy if he made KGS iPhone
]
;W[gi]
;B[cl]C[simplet [3d\]: you can play easily on playok or dgs with an i phone
youoldgods [1d?\]: every month would probably be silly, actually. every year would be good
kle: one of them will resign soon
ChemBoy613 [-\]: yeah i'm playing on dgs but i always make moves at like 4am and do something stupid XD
]
;W[mm]
;B[ll]
;W[ck]C[youoldgods [1d?\]: you could probably use nova.gs on iphone
]
;B[fi]
;W[eh]
;B[cl]
;W[lk]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: there is also tygem iphone but i am scared that the board is too small and i will hit wrong button
ChemBoy613 [-\]: but tygem ipad is nice
simplet [3d\]: take
youoldgods [1d?\]: so huge for white
]
;B[ml]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: this capture is gigantic
]
;W[ck]C[grindel [16k?\]: I notice that in the comparison ther is no IGS column
peakoil [1d\]: b made more threats for himself, but not the 94 w has left
ChemBoy613 [-\]: i think IGS isn't really used
ChemBoy613 [-\]: but i'm not sure
lkjuio [5d\]: I counted roughly, maybe it's more than 94
]
;B[hh]
;W[ii]C[youoldgods [1d?\]: a lot of japanese play on igs
youoldgods [1d?\]: there are always games going
herissondu [4d\]: more like 105
]
;B[cl]
;W[kk]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: nice thing about tygem is it's good for watching.  I realized fast KGS games are making me play worse
peakoil [1d\]: k11?
]
;B[ji]C[USGO1 [-\]: played with a loud clack
steady [2d?\]: CLACK!
]
;W[ih]
;B[jh]C[peakoil [1d\]: was l9 w mistake?
]
;W[ig]
;B[el]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: usgo, which player looks more worried?
Babur [5d\]: wowwwww
steady [2d?\]: oh man
ChemBoy613 [-\]: l9 seems wrong
peakoil [1d\]: l9 said... "I cannot see my 94 ko threats"
Babur [5d\]: m10?
]
;W[iq]C[indianayk [5d\]: another ko?
Babur [5d\]: k3 ?
globax [3d\]: of course
USGO1 [-\]: both players have very serious looks on their faces, being careful to not give away any accidental tells
Babur [5d\]: i don't understand
arts [2d\]: cmon k3 only move
jwc [-\]: k3 j5 h5 k5
globax [3d\]: w aim to get a ko at h7
peakoil [1d\]: both players staring at each other to see tells
arts [2d\]: cmon k3 only move
USGO1 [-\]: Sonyyan rests his chin on the top of his water bottle in front of him
Babur [5d\]: but this "ko" doesn't work at all
grindel [16k?\]: sweet discriptions USGO1 thank you :)
simplet [3d\]: if he aimes a ko there, he doesnt play k4
Frostgiant [2d\]: l4 possible?
troll [2d\]: There is no scribing error in this part of the board?
iceweasel [-\]: seems w gets his 2nd ko
grumpyjoe [-\]: what does w see
troll [2d\]: J3 too weird
]
;B[jq]
;W[io]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: ok ok, important question.  Are iceweasel and Frost Giant bothers?  or maybe the weasel is his pet?  it's not clear to me.
jwc [-\]: h5 h6
globax [3d\]: lookst shicho and w captured to me
grumpyjoe [-\]: oh h8
globax [3d\]: h5+
Benzene [3d\]: globax h5 h6 
peakoil [1d\]: this was great reading by w
]
;B[ho]
;W[lj]C[steady [2d?\]: oh man lOOl
steady [2d?\]: the play
globax [3d\]: ko
Loxios [2d\]: i can't see b saving averything
steady [2d?\]: he might want more than that
Loxios [2d\]: e*
steady [2d?\]: that was beautiful Q_Q
grindel [16k?\]: when is w going to play k10
arts [2d\]: nice
Babur [5d\]: difficult for b
USGO1 [-\]: Sonyyan's have visibly shakes a little as he places his stones now
grumpyjoe [-\]: this is a fun game
]
;B[li]
;W[nl]C[arts [2d\]: xD
]
;B[mk]
;W[mj]C[grindel [16k?\]: what a ladder??
steady [2d?\]: now is the fight between readss
globax [3d\]: jackpot rising before ko
ChemBoy613 [-\]: ko for game, honestly
]
;B[nk]
;W[jj]
;B[ij]
;W[hl]
;B[jj]
;W[mi]C[trumie [2d\]: don't make Mark Lee angry.  you wouldn't like him when he's angry
dogbert [4d\]: ladder for the game
globax [3d\]: the value of shicho has to be enough to lose the ko..
globax [3d\]: n6?
grumpyjoe [-\]: n12 or cut n6
]
;B[ok]
;W[jg]C[USGO1 [-\]: *hand
PhapHoa [7k\]: he want more than that
steady [2d?\]: double ko?
]
;B[lh]C[steady [2d?\]: nvm
lkjuio [5d\]: god...
steady [2d?\]: did black just die?
PhapHoa [7k\]: very complicate
donner [2d?\]: sicho
simplet [3d\]: geta
bert [2d?\]: no
LiXiaolu [5d\]: l12 l11 n13 
globax [3d\]: ko time
simplet [3d\]: l12 + n13
LiXiaolu [5d\]: still not net tho
steady [2d?\]: yea
]
;W[hn]C[steady [2d?\]: l12 + n13
bert [2d?\]: n13 l13 l14 n12 
]
;B[hm]C[globax [3d\]: 8)
]
;W[kh]
;B[ki]
;W[hn]C[steady [2d?\]: ok is double ko time
]
;B[ip]
;W[mg]C[steady [2d?\]: lol white might not take right now
]
;B[kg]C[steady [2d?\]: yup
grumpyjoe [-\]: good choice
]
;W[lg]
;B[kf]
;W[mh]
;B[kh]
;W[je]C[LiXiaolu [5d\]: awesome shapes
]
;B[ke]C[miao [6d\]: lol
]
;W[jo]C[peakoil [1d\]: rapid fire play!
kruemel [3d\]: too cool
steady [2d?\]: dang
miao [6d\]: ...
youoldgods [1d?\]: oh man
steady [2d?\]: LOl
LiXiaolu [5d\]: seems like w wins
steady [2d?\]: that was just for strenghthing shape
steady [2d?\]: sigh
Loxios [2d\]: something like 4 b2bombers for black
]
;B[qk]C[miao [6d\]: black is ruined
]
;W[jd]C[bert [2d?\]: dump the dumpling in your favorite dipping
globax [3d\]: i think n6 would have been better than p9
]
;B[kd]C[profan [-\]: cant w attack centerblack then kill f17?
steady [2d?\]: how many variation can go have
steady [2d?\]: thers no way to calculate that
]
;W[kc]C[globax [3d\]: b wants p14 later
Ootakamoku [-\]: poor 9p will have to analyze this?
Ootakamoku [-\]: I mean, he might have the strength, but hwo to explain this mess to mere mortals?
]
;B[lc]
;W[jb]C[indianayk [5d\]: unless the cut at k17 works, it's bad for b
ligo [5k\]: 361! minus illegal moves plus ko
grumpyjoe [-\]: was l13 the best move for b
steady [2d?\]: uhh
USGO1 [-\]: 10 min warning for black
steady [2d?\]: 361! plus taken stone
steady [2d?\]: and stuff
LiXiaolu [5d\]: l13 was the only move
steady [2d?\]: stuff
NateC [3d\]: He Xie dare commentate all that may become a man. Who dares commentate more is none
guapo [1k\]: b wont resign
USGO1 [-\]: white still has 55 mins main time
jyulang: usgo
steady [2d?\]: i have to go in 30 min
steady [2d?\]: I DONT WANT TO LEAVE 
jyulang: can you describre reaction of players?
jyulang: ;)
jyulang: steady, buy smartphone and put kgs on it, keep online 24hours
steady [2d?\]: Q_Q right
jyulang: :-D
steady [2d?\]: sighh
bug2 [3d\]: good idea
Benzene [3d\]: i hope black has to play h3 eventually
]
;B[kb]
;W[jc]C[profan [-\]: 2^361-1 :)
globax [3d\]: o14?
LiXiaolu [5d\]: w plays fast
NateC [3d\]: w should beat him to the punch and play h3 immediately
Mipaline [5k\]: Where is b territory?
indianayk [5d\]: even c17 is sente
profan [-\]: we will see b territory after removing captured stones :)
]
;B[me]C[steady [2d?\]: b do have territoy on the left
steady [2d?\]: and top
]
;W[pb]C[globax [3d\]: p14 or r13?
steady [2d?\]: black is going to resign soon
arts [2d\]: game so over
USGO1 [-\]: Sonyyan tsks as he plays n15
youoldgods [1d?\]: where is w territory?
]
;B[pg]C[globax [3d\]: seems close to me
jyulang: at e1
guapo [1k\]: resign sequence
jyulang: jk :)
simplet [3d\]: still a fight
steady [2d?\]: q14?
peakoil [1d\]: tsk tsk tsk
steady [2d?\]: nvm
jyulang: if w kills it i am steve jobs
bug2 [3d\]: p14
NateC [3d\]: w has the UR, the LR, and as indiana said, he cantake the UL with c17
jyulang: what is w doing?
guapo [1k\]: thinking
]
;W[pj]C[NateC [3d\]: p14 o14? It looks like the kind of desperate, appropriate respone there
]
;B[pk]
;W[of]
;B[ob]
;W[qi]
;B[oi]
;W[ph]
;B[rn]
;W[qn]
;B[rm]
;W[cc]C[steady [2d?\]: yup
joh2000 [1k\]: usgo1 how much time do they have now?
steady [2d?\]: c17 huge right now
]
;B[dc]
;W[lb]
;B[mb]
;W[ka]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: w can win without killing something?
Babur [5d\]: lol what happened
guapo [1k\]: probably
]
;B[qb]
;W[pc]
;B[pa]
;W[ld]
;B[mc]
;W[gc]
;B[gb]
;W[rc]
;B[qc]
;W[rd]C[imperion [1d\]: O19 ?
]
;B[ma]
;W[ro]
;B[cb]
;W[qj]C[spiritburd [1d\]: This is just weird..
]
;B[oh]
;W[og]C[USGO1 [-\]: one minute warning for black
]
;B[rk]C[oliolioli [3k\]: the board does look a little odd with that huge clump of stones in the middle
joh2000 [1k\]: suden death?
]
;W[nm]C[sampo [8k\]: how much time white has left?
USGO1 [-\]: too much
USGO1 [-\]: he hasn't even used half his time yet
spiritburd [1d\]: Who are the players?
PhapHoa [7k\]: human
USGO1 [-\]: black in byo-yomi now
ghqs: game over?
profan [-\]: planet?
imperion [1d\]: s11
PhapHoa [7k\]: earth
USGO1 [-\]: 4 periods now
steady [2d?\]: if black continues
ghqs: w solid everywhere
steady [2d?\]: white should just go n3
imperion [1d\]: doesnt work
ofir271 [3k\]: almost no territory
USGO1 [-\]: 3 periods now
ghqs: w+time lol
USGO1 [-\]: 2 periods
]
;B[hf]
;W[le]C[Jermelle [-\]: hmm
sampo [8k\]: all or nothing!
]
;B[lf]C[Jermelle [-\]: ^
]
;W[mf]C[steady [2d?\]: scared me for a second
]
;B[md]C[wsn [4k\]: s9 has no chance to live
]
;W[ff]C[spiritburd [1d\]: Q7?
ghqs: eh?
ghqs: why f14
USGO1 [-\]: sudden death
okiol [-\]: s9 already alive what are you talking about
ghqs: s9 alive how
]
;B[qh]
;W[rh]C[spiritburd [1d\]: S9 is not connected?
simplet [3d\]: if black p6 you kill? how do you do ? ( me fine)
]
;B[pi]
;W[ri]C[Jermelle [-\]: double g
ghqs: too much sadness for b
peakoil [1d\]: w is rubbing it in
]
;B[pm]C[ghqs: naw he's just killing softly
]
;W[qm]C[wsn [4k\]: do the honorable thing :) 
]
;B[ql]C[simplet [3d\]: )
PhapHoa [7k\]: sadness
steady [2d?\]: gg
PhapHoa [7k\]: summer summer sadness
]
;W[on]
;B[qe]C[ghqs: even w lets b play twice b still lose
]
;W[pf]C[USGO1 [-\]: black resigns here
peakoil [1d\]: must resign now
steady [2d?\]: yup
steady [2d?\]: even w lets b play twic
Gor [2d\]: white won us open?
USGO1 [-\]: W+r
steady [2d?\]: g14 f15
steady [2d?\]: black iwn
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks everyone for watching
dovemans [16k\]: yes
peakoil [1d\]: thanks USGO
wsn [4k\]: w is 9:0?
ghqs: w won the masters
mdm [2k\]: thanks
steady [2d?\]: thank you usgo
Benzene [3d\]: congratulations mark lee
dovemans [16k\]: indeed
Benzene [3d\]: very impressive tournament
dovemans [16k\]: mark slayed 
dovemans [16k\]: amazing
peakoil [1d\]: h10 !!!!!!!
peakoil [1d\]: also j3 tesuji !!!!
wsn [4k\]: what a sandbag!  beat so many pros
AndEdhel [4k\]: And this is (top) insei level in korea... not pro
ghqs: says something about korean pros
mate105 [2d\]: Thanks USGO
ghqs: how do u know hes top insei
Benzene [3d\]: thanks for the broacasts
AndEdhel [4k\]: A team
Ley42 [5k\]: when is the commentary?
ghqs: i mean how do u know he's on A team
Vash3G [-\]: There is live commentary right now
lkjuio [5d\]: thanks
Ley42 [5k\]: where?
Vash3G [-\]: USGO5
indianayk [5d\]: he was not a top yuenguseng, but he was on A team
Ley42 [5k\]: oh ok thanks
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