(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[2014 US Open Masters Division Round 3 Board 1 - Andy Liu 1p vs Zi Yang (Matthew) Hu 2p]PW[Andy Liu]PB[Matthew Hu]WR[1p]BR[2p]DT[2014-08-11]RO[3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to round 3 of the US Open Masters Division at the AGA US Go Congress in New York City
USGO1 [-\]: Pairings have been posted, but not too many players in the room yet
]RE[B+9.50]
;B[dp]C[WiseWolf [?\]: yay 
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;W[dd]C[Sneg [?\]: white sweetrip ))
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;B[pq]C[youoldgods [1d?\]: did matthew hu win this division last year?
gokgs5: both are asians?
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew is Canadian, and Andy is US
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;W[pd]C[gokgs5: but the race i mean
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;B[qf]
;W[nc]C[youoldgods [1d?\]: yes, liu and hu are asian
gokgs5: ty
woebegone [3k\]: race...
toved2 [6k\]: R9
gokgs5: r6
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;B[ql]
;W[jq]
;B[fq]
;W[mq]C[morth89 [1d\]: Matthew AGA pro?
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;B[np]
;W[nq]
;B[oq]C[Ognion [2k\]: Are the Aga ranking limited to 7dan for amateurs ? 
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;W[ol]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: R9 is outdated, lots of players are playing R8 nowadays
gokgs5: chemboy where do u see that?
ChemBoy613 [-\]: you can have ratings higher than 7 but no ranks higher than 7
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew is a Chinese pro living in Canada
Ognion [2k\]: Oh ok thank you chemboy
ChemBoy613 [-\]: on Tygem, you can watch lots of strong 9d play and see trends in go
shakupan [6d\]: wasn't he 1p yesterday?
USGO1 [-\]: Andy grabs a handful of stones and puts them on the table in front of him
morth89 [1d\]: good sleep makes you stronger
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;B[qn]C[USGO1 [-\]: our records were incorrect yesterday
shakupan [6d\]: ok :)
Marisa [7d?\]: I want to see a 13p's game 
ChemBoy613 [-\]: lots of people who are pro or who are training to be pro play on tygem, so you get to see modern go, and no one is playing r9 anymore 
Thou [5d\]: pros play q10 instead of this r6
Marisa [7d?\]: go your Tygem Chem :)
Marisa [7d?\]: we are KGS ! 
ChemBoy613 [-\]: lol i'm only 2d over there XD
ChemBoy613 [-\]: not strong enough to tell you why XD
CupidStunt: wots wrong w r9?
CupidStunt: chemboy
ChemBoy613 [-\]: i don't know, i'm not strong enough to say
Thou [5d\]: r9 is actually back in fashion now
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;W[cf]C[Thou [5d\]: seen it in alot of chinese games last two weeks
Thou [5d\]: so shut up
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;B[of]C[MyLady [2k\]: but does it really matter to ordinary players what it's fashion with the pros? except as a curiosity.
shakupan [6d\]: does Andy have good chance against chinese pro? :/
CupidStunt: just a stupid stunt
fonix [-\]: haahaha
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;W[rd]C[Ognion [2k\]: j17 ?
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;B[ml]C[gokgs5: yes shaku, cus he is asian
gokgs5: good chances to beat china pro
shakupan [6d\]: but he is american pro :)
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;W[mp]
;B[no]C[kmlck [3d\]: he is american
gokgs5: but asian race :D
shakupan [6d\]: not the same level
GWAR [?\]: racist
ChemBoy613 [-\]: he's pretty strong
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;W[mj]C[gokgs5: yea he is good
kmlck [3d\]: its not about race its about nationality
shakupan [6d\]: i'm sure he is
USGO1 [-\]: let's drop the race discussions now
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;B[md]C[Garysan [12k\]: ^
morth89 [1d\]: any video stream?
WiseWolf [?\]: what does nationality has to do with affinity to go?
shakupan [6d\]: anyway i guess we'll see how he'll do here :)
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;W[nd]C[gokgs5: wisewolf, you know facing one asian affects directly in your go game and versus another, its proff by science
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;B[mf]
;W[mo]C[gokgs5: they play less overplay
USGO1 [-\]: you will get booted and miss the rest of the game if it doesn't stop
ZT1LB [1d\]: cant see players who is it
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;B[nn]C[gokgs5: o9
USGO1 [-\]: Andy Liu 1p (w) vs Matthew Hu 2p (b)
WiseWolf [?\]: and don't ask where they are from
shakupan [6d\]: lol
ZT1LB [1d\]: thx
rsun [6d\]: look at their first names, they must be from North America
Garysan [12k\]: -_-
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;W[oj]C[jwc [-\]: nationality sucks
Thou [5d\]: well b's name was different last night
gokgs5: p10 was a professional move
jwc [-\]: it is just go
WiseWolf [?\]: good sleep makes you stronger
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;B[kj]C[WiseWolf [?\]: we know that already
gokgs5: why b keeps playing broken shapes?
rsun [6d\]: end of fuseki!
Garysan [12k\]: Go Andy! :3
rsun [6d\]: it is not broken at all
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;W[qk]
;B[rk]
;W[qj]
;B[rj]C[Nande [2d\]: they are playing fast
shakupan [6d\]: yeah
gokgs5: its a personal game
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;W[pl]C[gokgs5: s11
USGO1 [-\]: Andy has a tendency to play fast (in most of the games that I've recorded)
rsun [6d\]: s11 would be broken shape
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;B[qm]
;W[lh]C[Thou [5d\]: this is what blitz does to ppl
Garysan [12k\]: this game is progressing much quicker than the other two.
bushido [6k\]: blitz is a plauge on go
gokgs5: bigbadwolf was a blitzer...
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew restraightens some stones in the upper right
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;B[eb]
;W[db]
;B[ec]
;W[dc]
;B[ic]C[Thou [5d\]: i don't like e18
shakupan [6d\]: ok
Thou [5d\]: :>
gokgs5: c4 seems obvious now
USGO1 [-\]: Andy points his fingers at the board
diva [3d\]: n7 
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;W[bp]C[shakupan [6d\]: isn't there an usgotv? :)
gokgs5: not
gokgs5: xD
shakupan [6d\]: close gokgs :)
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;B[bn]C[gokgs5: if was c4 i would close kgs and buy a pizza for the prize
jwc [-\]: they should hire eurogotv ;)
shakupan [6d\]: xD
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;W[cq]
;B[dq]C[USGO1 [-\]: but then you people just want the camera pointed at the board... what's the point of that?!
boiz: ?
rsun [6d\]: the point is, you can do sth else then ;)
USGO1 [-\]: lol
Garysan [12k\]: Dual-streaming :p one pointed at the board one looking at the players
gokgs5: the point is... put the camera to board + faces, so you can see try poker skillz to read out faces and guess if was a terrible move or solid
shakupan [6d\]: it doesn't have to be pointed at the board :)
jwc [-\]: seeing the players reactions is nice
Welvang [7d\]: simon ryan andy matthew
Welvang [7d\]: yu, li, liu, hu
gokgs5: oh no welvang is here.. :(
Kaskai [4k\]: lol
Welvang [7d\]: american pro
Welvang [7d\]: ftw
shakupan [6d\]: Hu is chinese pro
Welvang [7d\]: matthew sounds very chinese
gokgs5: again this about china ?
boiz: :D
USGO1 [-\]: Andy closes his eyes in thought for a few seconds
gokgs5: he is tired i think
boiz: this is why we need a stream
shakupan [6d\]: well he's living in Canada now
Welvang [7d\]: ok i'll make no jokes about american pro chineses eyes i promise
Garysan [12k\]: inb4booted
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew tiddles a few stones on the table in front of him as he glances around the room
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;W[br]
;B[cn]
;W[dr]
;B[er]
;W[ds]C[gokgs5: you type fast and put moves out
gokgs5: you are good
rsun [6d\]: b is going to make 20 points in the center
ChemBoy613 [-\]: W bets this thickness isn't going to hurt k3 too much
gokgs5: c13 seems really really obvious now
shakupan [6d\]: he'd better to
gokgs5: or my name is not lee sedol
boiz: it's not
Welvang [7d\]: already feels like a good game for white
ChemBoy613 [-\]: agreed welvang
rsun [6d\]: depends on second half, as usual
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;B[mi]C[Welvang [7d\]: depends on who has the komi, as usual
gokgs5: n11 was funny at all
CupidStunt: w solid everywhere
CupidStunt: except middle
gokgs5: middle is just alive
rsun [6d\]: b just wants to make some profit
USGO1 [-\]: Andy leans in over the board... Matthew steps away from the table
CupidStunt: seems very even up till now
CupidStunt: usgo, is there vid stream?
gokgs5: USGO, put some stream there man
gokgs5: 2mp camera is ok
CupidStunt: i wanna see what these pro nerds look like :)
jwc [-\]: b has cut off m12?
rsun [6d\]: they don't have the funding
gokgs5: cupidstunt, "pro nerds" lol
boiz: they wont put stream, they prefer craeating drama by describing every little nuance
Welvang [7d\]: what next
Welvang [7d\]: andy scratch his nose, matthew is going to buy an ice cream
ChemBoy613 [-\]: many go pros aren't nerds, actually
gokgs5: yes kids, you all should be happy with the description, stop tv and go read a book
Dupaaxe [?\]: Interesting, black want some influence to work with North or South West groups
CupidStunt: i'd probably die in the center as W, scared chicken that i am
boiz: andy is scratching his chest now
gokgs5: i think ishida is a nerd
CupidStunt: very primate of him
boiz: lo ye
boiz: l
CupidStunt: do these guys have jobs, or do they make enough from playing go?
ChemBoy613 [-\]: as far as i can tell, pros are just normal people who are strong at go
gokgs5: cupid, why someone would need a job if family got like 5,000,000$ on bank and live with tax rate and retired parents?
gokgs5: ....sigh
CupidStunt: you saying that's the case with these two, gokgs?
Garysan [12k\]: I doubt any of the AGA professionals are making enough money off of Go alone to live on, but I know there are some pros that do live off playing Go.
gokgs5: yes cupid
CupidStunt: oh
gokgs5: do u think someone got time for being a pro? without money?
gokgs5: they would be working at mac donalds right now and play playstation 2 on clt screen
gokgs5: not go
Garysan [12k\]: you must be joking
ChemBoy613 [-\]: and then... time to censor the guests...
shakupan [6d\]: gokgs is never joking
boiz: from 1 to 10, how bad is it to work at mcdonalds?
CupidStunt: gokgs pulling a cupid stunt
woebegone [3k\]: is w bbw?
rsun [6d\]: andy having a hard time!
rsun [6d\]: used to be
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;W[li]C[jewel [1k\]: can I censor all the guests?
ChemBoy613 [-\]: of course
rsun [6d\]: yes, manually
boiz: one by one
boiz: :)
CupidStunt: ill advised though
CupidStunt: might as well go to igs
woebegone [3k\]: mistake, ladder wrong :-)
shakupan [6d\]: :)
WiseWolf [?\]: it was so fast in the beginning
gokgs5: :D
boiz: i only like the cheesburger at mcdonalds
rsun [6d\]: when andy takes 1min+ to think, you know he's in trouble
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;B[ni]C[shakupan [6d\]: ^^
Minjhou [6k\]: no, you know you are in troubles ;-)
boiz: :DD
gokgs5: robert boil? :D
shakupan [6d\]: if 'you' are not some chinese pro
ChemBoy613 [-\]: just m10?
woebegone [3k\]: i miss the bbw account...
gokgs5: me too
gokgs5: and the wolf picture
gokgs5: and javaness was 21k
woebegone [3k\]: w dead, game over?
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;W[mk]
;B[lj]
;W[lk]
;B[ji]C[rsun [6d\]: w just in trouble, not dead
gokgs5: not over lol
GlobalGogo: w dead??????????????
woebegone [3k\]: m12 
CupidStunt: k11 such boss move
shakupan [6d\]: ko????
boiz: yes, almost tengen
gokgs5: no ko
lukep [5k\]: tbh imagine white winning this game
gokgs5: wait, ko?
lukep [5k\]: can't*
boiz: tbh?
shakupan [6d\]: then only seki maybe
woebegone [3k\]: the one who moves closest to tengen wins?
rsun [6d\]: no, I think it's a triple ko jigo
Mukti [4d\]: Maybe eternal life?
boiz: it's very important to hit tengen
TTL [1d\]: B so far ahead now.
GlobalGogo: my favorite random noob MicMac is also here :-)
jianq [3d\]: o13?
jwc [-\]: o13?
Mukti [4d\]: O13?
gokgs5: its triple ko = death on the pitchfork in 1300's ?
boiz: what is a micmac?
GlobalGogo: a random noob
USGO1 [-\]: Andy nods his head rythmically as he looks around the board
woebegone [3k\]: looks like even if m12 lives by some miracle b profits a lot there
Mukti [4d\]: A microwave Big Mac.
boiz: ew
boiz: how bad must that be..
gokgs5: micmac was a nice icecream
Mukti [4d\]: Yeah.
rsun [6d\]: b can get some nice wall in the center and then c12
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;W[ci]C[rsun [6d\]: if w chooses to activate m12
rsun [6d\]: so w denies that
chinchilka: lol @c11
gokgs5: good idea mukti, microwave big mac, i will send that idea for macdonalds and get billionaire
bleen [1d\]: who is that insane and activates m12 soon
boiz: what is e17 about? i mean, how does that relate to the left side?
Mukti [4d\]: I want 50% Gokgs5.
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;B[lc]
;W[ed]C[gokgs5: ok 50%
Mukti [4d\]: Cool.
jwc [-\]: if you don't know what to do, then tenuki..
chinchilka: what are your estmates, gentlemen? who is ahead?
boiz: e17 works fine with j17, but wastes almost all the aji for/on the left side
gokgs5: i guess they would pay me 1000$ for the idea and get the billions, so u get 500$ ok?
Mukti [4d\]: W incredibly territory oriented, that puts a lot of pressure on black.
TTL [1d\]: B still super far ahead, really hard for W.
boiz: ye, w can keep on being territorial
Mukti [4d\]: I don't see b ahead at all...
rsun [6d\]: why didn't they invent the word gentlewomen
boiz: b will eat him by speed
gokgs5: b6 doesnt make sense with c11 now
ChemBoy613 [-\]: those are called ladies
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;B[gc]C[chinchilka: dames
rsun [6d\]: then why invent the word policewoman
gokgs5: w is on the outrigger
boiz: outrigger?
jwc [-\]: gentlewoman is a contradiction?
Mukti [4d\]: Women are gentle by definition so gentlewomen would be pleonastic.
boiz: lol
jwc [-\]: or pleonastic
jewel [1k\]: I think W is ahead on territory already
boiz: 1 donut for mukti!
shakupan [6d\]: guys, one topic after an other plz
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;W[hq]C[gokgs5: i don't think donuts is good for health
chinchilka: w so calm
boiz: isnt it children day?
USGO1 [-\]: lets focus on the game please
ChemBoy613 [-\]: kbitiz like this is why tygem is better for watching games
chinchilka: must think he;s ahead loads
Mukti [4d\]: I still appeciate the gift though.
Minjhou [6k\]: w taking big points
jianq [3d\]: white 45, black 37 solid with a huge center, I think black is ahead
gokgs5: focus pls, ford focus on my garage ;)
boiz: well, you can give your donut to someone else in return for a bigmac?
wurfmaul [1d\]: I'm surprised that both agree that black can't profit from attacking white's center at the moment
boiz: just, because bicmac is supposed to be healthier than donuts
gokgs5: n18 is sente?
chinchilka: w centre looks positively unhealthy
ChemBoy613 [-\]: white is out with one eye
boiz: there is no such thing as w's centre
boiz: not at the moment
Mukti [4d\]: C9 to indirectly defend the cut?
woebegone [3k\]: n9 looks attackable, h3 looks passive and small, but what do i know...
wurfmaul [1d\]: boiz, I obviously meant the two stones M11 and M12
gokgs5: isnt n18 free bonus?
boiz: oh, sory
jianq [3d\]: white's quite patient
Mukti [4d\]: W playing amashi.
XY0908 [-\]: Is Mr. Hu AGA 2P?
boiz: hm, amashi
rsun [6d\]: there is no 2p in aga
USGO1 [-\]: China
gokgs5: jianq, thats how pro plays, like cold assasin
gokgs5: its hard to watch it calmly
Minjhou [6k\]: if andy wins the tourney will become 2p?
XY0908 [-\]: Ah, thanks, rsun and USGO1.
boiz: ...why would he?
boiz: it's all honorary
jianq [3d\]: so andy does not think the center in urgent?
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;B[qi]C[gokgs5: imho center is dame
Mukti [4d\]: Just taking big points, putting the onus on b to do something while waiting to pounce when he overstretches. Honinbo Shuwa excelled at it.
rsun [6d\]: there are only 3 1ps, too early for promotion
chinchilka: how can you tell honorary pro from normal pro?
XY0908 [-\]: BY the way, it was very nice mmeting you in person USGO1.
boiz: funny you say 'normal pro'
gokgs5: its possible to get from honorary pro for normal pro doing again the exams?
boiz: 'normal pros' are asians
chinchilka: lol
gokgs5: to*
Mukti [4d\]: Man...
woebegone [3k\]: so, is aga pro leage under construction? like egf pro league?
boiz: yes
boiz: it's all just being born
gokgs5: m7 ?
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;W[ph]C[rsun [6d\]: you become 1p and nothing happens
boiz: lol
USGO1 [-\]: EJournal editor comes by taking pictures... Andy looks up and shakes his head gently giving a weak smile
ylguikhij: you become 1p and you get all the girls
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;B[ng]C[boiz: if you need that..
jianq [3d\]: now the center is totally dead
gokgs5: everybody need girls
Mukti [4d\]: Who doesn't.
boiz: let me think
boiz: mm, that's probably true, yeah 
Mukti [4d\]: LOL
gokgs5: see seok bin for example
jianq [3d\]: not many girls play go
gokgs5: he is an example of sucessfull man in go 
USGO1 [-\]: Andy stepped away from the table just before this move... Matthew steps away now too
rsun [6d\]: go seigen was the most successful; he only got 1
bbred [3k\]: w is lost
gokgs5: 1 is enough
rsun [6d\]: so you can't use plural form
bbred [3k\]: even se knows this
Mukti [4d\]: You only need to find the right one. The serach itself is great fun though.
jwc [-\]: really just one?
chinchilka: how is seok bin successful?
gokgs5: sorry is seong i think
gokgs5: he got girls
gokgs5: at least i see on euro camera
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;W[mn]C[gokgs5: man, go player talking about girls is like talking about a social life
gokgs5: xD
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;B[gf]C[jianq [3d\]: so white sees that black cannot close the center in one move so he just does not do much?
Mukti [4d\]: We all like to fantasize :-)
chinchilka: now w officially ahead
rsun [6d\]: looks like almost yose
jianq [3d\]: now he plays something likej12?
Mukti [4d\]: C8
jwc [-\]: h5
Janibi [2k\]: Who won yesterday night between Daniel and Matthew? Was too late in my time zone to follow it till the end. 
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;W[cl]C[rsun [6d\]: pro
gokgs5: omg mukti is pro
USGO1 [-\]: so far Matthew is undefeated
chinchilka: matthew who?
Janibi [2k\]: was is by resignation or by pionts?
gokgs5: matthew hu
rsun [6d\]: points
Garysan [12k\]: I believe Andy is also undefeated isn't he?
chinchilka: ^__^
gokgs5: lol
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;B[em]C[USGO1 [-\]: true
gokgs5: and seok bin?
Janibi [2k\]: so this is kind of a showdone already
jewel [1k\]: showdown
jocelyn [3k\]: you mean the show is done ?
rsun [6d\]: I think b is leading
jianq [3d\]: well he should
chinchilka: w sente though
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;W[gd]C[jianq [3d\]: otherwise he would not play something like e7
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;B[hd]
;W[fc]
;B[fb]
;W[fd]
;B[hb]C[shakupan [6d\]: can w play L13 or is it overplay??
Minjhou [6k\]: g15 h15 h14 and then think
rsun [6d\]: I guess b+5
Mukti [4d\]: H13? or is that too early?
jwc [-\]: h12?
jianq [3d\]: white needs to go j12 I feel
rsun [6d\]: yose by move 70, man
shakupan [6d\]: yeah, great game
gokgs5: b is very heavy
ofir271 [3k\]: center+left got lots of points to decide this
chinchilka: w central group not strong enough for any such shenanigans
rsun [6d\]: andy will sure start sth crazy
youoldgods [1d?\]: is it just me or is o7 bigger than it looks?
gokgs5: a 30kyu move like d11 is enough to win the game by pass
rsun [6d\]: o7 is thick but not big
chinchilka: w must find a center move to attack and defend at the same time
agrog [1d\]: w+4,5
gokgs5: g11?
youoldgods [1d?\]: thanks, rsun
gokgs5: or even deep
lukep [5k\]: g12
rsun [6d\]: yw
jianq [3d\]: black 73, white 63-64
jewel [1k\]: including komi?
jianq [3d\]: hm, white is actually not that bad
jianq [3d\]: no
chinchilka: what is going on through w head?
jwc [-\]: h15 to create some aji
gokgs5: w is on wc
lukep [5k\]: i liked h15 too
chinchilka: really?
lukep [5k\]: h15 makes h12 good
jianq [3d\]: it looks like c8 vs e7 made white come back a little bit
chinchilka: going to toilet during 90min game... honte move
youoldgods [1d?\]: leaving h15 unplayed has more aji than playing it
shakupan [6d\]: w thinking about a big micmac
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;W[el]C[gokgs5: do u know if some pro cheated doing kifu  in wc?
]
;B[fl]C[agrog [1d\]: h15 seems awful
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;W[ek]C[GlobalGogo: problem for w is if he wants to fight in the center he will lose a lot on the left side
GlobalGogo: nice moves by w
jianq [3d\]: ?
MicMac [2d\]: lol shakupan
jianq [3d\]: what does h15 do?
]
;B[gh]C[jewel [1k\]: this is to protect b9?
]
;W[dm]C[gokgs5: lol shakupan
shakupan [6d\]: :)
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;B[dn]
;W[fm]
;B[en]C[agrog [1d\]: i dunno. someone wanted to play it
gokgs5: you must be very fun 
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;W[kk]
;B[jk]
;W[jl]
;B[il]
;W[ik]
;B[jj]C[shakupan [6d\]: j7 h8 g8 f9 h9 and b is tricked
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;W[im]
;B[hl]
;W[jm]C[shakupan [6d\]: don't try it at home
lukep [5k\]: even game i think
dagwood [?\]: Where can I find the results and pairings?
gokgs5: google
lukep [5k\]: maybe w+
chinchilka: why everyone say b ahead?
chinchilka: is it true?
rsun [6d\]: yes
Mukti [4d\]: I didn't.
chinchilka: or just guessing because 2p > 1p
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;B[dh]C[alienist [5k\]: trick 2p/;~}
agrog [1d\]: i counted w+4,5
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;W[ch]C[gokgs5: w+0.5
lukep [5k\]: the center looked impressive 
ofir271 [3k\]: isnt protecting e6 urgent?
mate105 [2d\]: They are playing too fast
lukep [5k\]: w+.0001
USGO1 [-\]: Andy seemed to hesitate for just a moment on that move
gokgs5: USGO, you must write a go book of drama
USGO1 [-\]: Mathew just adjusted the stones
agrog [1d\]: uh oh
mate105 [2d\]: USGO1 are they playing only one game today?
dagwood [?\]: thanks, gokgs5
USGO1 [-\]: they are only playing this game today
gokgs5: dagwood , for what? :D
USGO1 [-\]: the next round will be tomorrow and then there is a night game
dagwood [?\]: results
dagwood [?\]: google
gokgs5: oh
gokgs5: hahahahaha yw
chinchilka: that night game, still go?
lukep [5k\]: black resigned?
mate105 [2d\]: Thanks USGO1
gokgs5: my browsers are crashing so much
gokgs5: that addblock plugins ....
Dupaaxe [?\]: addcrash plugin :)))
USGO1 [-\]: Black has 1h 5m on his clock, White has 52m on his clock
rsun [6d\]: you need to use the lynx web browser
rsun [6d\]: 0 crash guaranteed
]
;B[gm]
;W[fk]
;B[fn]C[GlobalGogo: I use netscape navigator 3.11
]
;W[nm]C[Minjhou [6k\]: i prefer links web browser
]
;B[dg]C[gokgs5: netscape nice
Novalys [2d\]: n18 ?
Dupaaxe [?\]: bobcat is ok as well ??
]
;W[ge]
;B[he]C[candala [4k\]: peacefull, no dragon killer
gokgs5: i just need to put some linux distro here
rsun [6d\]: m12 was the dragon
rsun [6d\]: one in its infancy
candala [4k\]: lol
Universe [2d\]: yes y&x chromosome already established
jianq [3d\]: black 77, white 68-68.5
gokgs5: b+7.5
gokgs5: by se
Dupaaxe [?\]: nobi the dragon :)))
woebegone [3k\]: se counts japanese
Universe [2d\]: dragons have feelings too
GlobalGogo: b is twice as good as w so he should easily win
Universe [2d\]: as long as he is not twice as overconfident
jianq [3d\]: not sure d13 was a big one
USGO1 [-\]: both players step away from the table
jianq [3d\]: very close game
gokgs5: close?
jianq [3d\]: oh yeah
wurfmaul [1d\]: if one player is twice as good as the other, what's the expected win rate?
bERt0r [7k?\]: what about g10 ?
rsun [6d\]: w has sente now
shakupan [6d\]: m18 or s14?
jianq [3d\]: depends on who gets n18 and q11
Universe [2d\]: go will solve the worlds problems one day! 
rsun [6d\]: twice as good -> 66.7% winrate
woebegone [3k\]: not twice, come on. it's like 7d vs 8d
jianq [3d\]: q11 is 11 points
GlobalGogo: nah twice as good is 100% winrate
woebegone [3k\]: and it looke kinda sente
Universe [2d\]: (8d-7d)*e
rsun [6d\]: 2/3 / 1/3 = 2
woebegone [3k\]: i mean q11
gokgs5: 1/3+6/5 
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;W[on]
;B[po]
;W[lb]C[GlobalGogo: equally good 50% winrate and 50% x2 = 100%
shakupan [6d\]: so m18
jianq [3d\]: andy's endgame seems to be stronger
]
;B[kb]
;W[mb]C[rsun [6d\]: that's not twice as good as the other
]
;B[cg]
;W[bg]C[Prodigious [-\]: so 3 times as good is 150%, seems legit
gokgs5: now w lost
]
;B[bf]C[gokgs5: for sure
Universe [2d\]: over
werdfer: this game is so boring its almost hard to watch
jianq [3d\]: ?
USGO1 [-\]: Andy leans in over the board
Minjhou [6k\]: i seriously doubt "twice good" can be computed...
gokgs5: lol werdfer
GlobalGogo: and 2p = 2x 1p thus twice as good! flawless logic is flawless
Universe [2d\]: black will have to go on diet after eating all of these stones
mate105 [2d\]: I thought N18 should be black played it
Minjhou [6k\]: we should define it first
q11 [4d\]: q11 is unloved :-(
rsun [6d\]: twice as good means you win twice as many games, so 66.7% winrate
Universe [2d\]: white will need band aid here
]
;W[bh]C[gokgs5: w cant win now
Universe [2d\]: "clear"
Universe [2d\]: something is close to death
chinchilka: i agree
]
;B[cb]C[woebegone [3k\]: omg
shakupan [6d\]: wow
candala [4k\]: kill
rsun [6d\]: now that's a game over move
Universe [2d\]: ahh he is so nice
Universe [2d\]: lol
gokgs5: i think b+r
jianq [3d\]: white does not have a choice I guess
rsun [6d\]: has andy been to korea for training yet?
Universe [2d\]: baduk training?
gokgs5: b14 and c18 incredible tesuji
Dupaaxe [?\]: If you play 1 game 50% chance to win :)
goBum [?\]: i got in at the right time :3
gokgs5: just some masters to figure it out
rsun [6d\]: yeah, that was part of the deal
Minjhou [6k\]: errr... andy is W
jianq [3d\]: black is investing 3 points here
gokgs5: w got like 20 pts in total cash now...
jianq [3d\]: actually 4
jewel [1k\]: what if w played b15 instead?
rsun [6d\]: this game is too one-sided; w had no chance at all
GlobalGogo: looks like the pigs and the wolf have changed sides this time
q11 [4d\]: how old is black?
rsun [6d\]: 20
Universe [2d\]: since creation
rsun [6d\]: no
Universe [2d\]: i saw it once
shakupan [6d\]: i don't believe in c18
rsun [6d\]: sorry that's Li Dongfang
Universe [2d\]: with my eyes closed
jianq [3d\]: nothing wrong with b15, I guess white just been really greedy there
q11 [4d\]: i thought younger
wurfmaul [1d\]: rsun, is that really your opinion that w had no chance at all? Serious questoin.
jianq [3d\]: he does not want black to play a9
q11 [4d\]: b15 had c10 problem
GlobalGogo: how many aga pros are created so far?
gokgs5: q11
gokgs5: hi
rsun [6d\]: yes that's my opinion
shakupan [6d\]: just d19 and kill it all, don't fear the pro bluff
gokgs5: this is not a pro bluff
gokgs5: its real
woebegone [3k\]: a pro cannot make such a mistake
wurfmaul [1d\]: rsun, thx. GlobalGogo, 2
rsun [6d\]: it would be at least semedori
Mukti [4d\]: if D19 b C15 works.
shakupan [6d\]: that's why the bluff should work
chinchilka: w resigned?
goBum [?\]: well, if w back off it's over?
gokgs5: b+r
gokgs5: thanks all
wurfmaul [1d\]: uh, 2 is wrong, sorry.
rsun [6d\]: after w took the 3rd corner, everyone (possibly including w himself) thought w was leading
jianq [3d\]: so d19, b15?
wurfmaul [1d\]: 3 aga pros.
rsun [6d\]: but when b cut off m12, w couldn't do anything
Minjhou [6k\]: so a pro can always play a c18 move, because his opponent won't play D19 woebegone?
TTL [1d\]: B looked better all game IMO.
GlobalGogo: billy bbw and who else?
chinchilka: andy playing two games, simult?
jewel [1k\]: How does C10 work? I can't see a way for black to escape?
]
;W[ca]C[wurfmaul [1d\]: Andy Liu, Gangsheng Shi, Calvin Sun, according to http://www.usgo.org/professionals
goBum [?\]: yey
rsun [6d\]: that was from round 2
Jermelle [-\]: I don't know where gangsheng as been...
chinchilka: ah
woebegone [3k\]: no, i'm thinking there must be a solution to reduce this to a small loss, a pro wouldn't let one of their corners killed
GlobalGogo: thanks
Jermelle [-\]: I haven't heard about him in so long
morth89 [1d\]: when is next AGA pro exam?
chinchilka: Gangshebang... what a name!
Jermelle [-\]: The next one is still... being made?
shakupan [6d\]: lol
chinchilka: w got all the points he wanted... but still lose?
rsun [6d\]: yes, that illustrates the huge gap in strength
chinchilka: that's really pro stuff by b
chinchilka: indeed
Jermelle [-\]: I know they have one this year, because a post said "Washington go tournament used as a prelims for the pro exam"
Jermelle [-\]: or something like that
shakupan [6d\]: let's see what happens here guys
cjr [4d\]: c18 a bit expensive though if it doesn't work
jianq [3d\]: I don't see how black is planning  to play in the corner
USGO1 [-\]: Gangsheng has been in Korea for a while... he's back home now, I believe
woebegone [3k\]: b15?
Jermelle [-\]: Oh, thanks
cjr [4d\]: c15 and b16 maybe?
agrog [1d\]: w still ahead 4,5
Jermelle [-\]: I heard he's been in Asia lately, but I rarely see his name anymore
]
;B[re]
;W[qe]C[cjr [4d\]: seems b can't get out into the center
chinchilka: center already b's
jianq [3d\]: if black does not do anything in the corner, white is definitely back in the game
rsun [6d\]: yes, that's why he can't "get out into" the center
woebegone [3k\]: (s)he means b14
jianq [3d\]: probably leading a bit
]
;B[rf]C[wurfmaul [1d\]: doesn't c15 d14 b16 threaten to capture c14 and d14?
USGO1 [-\]: Andy leans in towards the right side... then switches over to the left
chinchilka: lol
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew rattles a few stones on the table in front of him
jianq [3d\]: andy liu is really a strong endgame player
Jermelle [-\]: jianq, I'd hope he's a great endgame player. He plays for all out territory
chinchilka: if i read farther than others, it's because i stand on the shoulders of andy liu
Jermelle [-\]: How much time do the players have left?
wurfmaul [1d\]: I think I see now that c15 d14 b16 does not threaten to capture these two stones.
agrog [1d\]: cool, kghin is watching.
agrog [1d\]: do you have a count?
USGO1 [-\]: Black has almost an hour left on his clock, white a little more than a half-hour
woebegone [3k\]: q11 overplay?
mate105 [2d\]: I haven't seen kghin for a long time.
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew fidgets in his chair, and lays his head on the table for a moment
mlkiop [4d\]: w ahead ?
woebegone [3k\]: there should be a 9d game alert function on kgs
elou [8k\]: (I have received a message from gokgs5 prompting there was an audio commentary there but can't find it someone can help me ? ) 
Jermelle [-\]: Usgo5
Jermelle [-\]: I think
USGO1 [-\]: Andy taps a stone on the table briefly in a morse-code like manner
jianq [3d\]: black 80, white 74
elou [8k\]: (ok thanks a lot:))
]
;W[df]C[Mukti [4d\]: Seems close on the board to me.
woebegone [3k\]: jiang, do you use aga counting?
woebegone [3k\]: *jianq
woebegone [3k\]: sorry
axlui [2k\]: Whos playing
clydesdale [3k\]: see above
woebegone [3k\]: Andy Liu 1p aga vs Matthew Hu 2p china
jianq [3d\]: what is aga counting??
Minjhou [6k\]: andy and matthew
bert [2d?\]: Hu's playing, see
axlui [2k\]: Oh sht
agrog [1d\]: haha, USGO commentary adds a bit of depth :)
axlui [2k\]: Who is who
mlkiop [4d\]: seems close y. But b's yose looks more promising to me, what do you think ?
Mukti [4d\]: To me it looks like w has a bit more cash but b is thick, so quite close.
bert [2d?\]: b e14 is sente, no?
mdm [2k\]: andy is w
]
;B[ef]C[lunaspace [6d?\]: I think b has a lot more forcing moves in end game
agrog [1d\]: getting D14 in sente is pretty awesome for w
youoldgods [1d?\]: not sente
youoldgods [1d?\]: well maybe it is. i'd be uncomfortable there playing away
bert [2d?\]: next move will tell
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew tiddles a couple of stones between  his fingers, then places them in the lid of his bowl with his prisoner stone briefly before playing that last move
]
;W[qh]
;B[ri]
;W[pi]
;B[ba]
;W[da]
;B[bd]C[peakoil [2d\]: does this work?
agrog [1d\]: the game depends on it
Minjhou [6k\]: w b18 as first thought
Jermelle [-\]: lol he's capturing his own stones
mlkiop [4d\]: c16 seems ok to me
Genghis [2k\]: black is certainly give the big bad wolf opportunities to misread : )
agrog [1d\]: i guess it's just reduction. w will be forced to eat b
jianq [3d\]: c16
youoldgods [1d?\]: w must be calculating if he could tenuki
bert [2d?\]: i guess it will become some kind of ko
agrog [1d\]: if w tenuki, he dies
]
;W[eg]C[mlkiop [4d\]: c16 was a ko I think
]
;B[eh]C[ptitlou [2d\]: well squizz at d15 would have lived in the corner no ?
ss28 [4d\]: c17 
WVoron [5d\]: с17 than ko
ss28 [4d\]: ugly ko
WVoron [5d\]: lol
WVoron [5d\]: really?
mlkiop [4d\]: y, d15 instead was alive in the corner
WVoron [5d\]: sweet for black
ptitlou [2d\]: yes but may be it wasn't worth it, too much damage in the center ?
ss28 [4d\]: yes
bert [2d?\]: flower sniffing
mlkiop [4d\]: y, mb
mlkiop [4d\]: what about a18 ?
lunaspace [6d?\]: What is the time like?
Algohol [2k\]: 4.56 pm :)
jianq [3d\]: what does the cut do?
mlkiop [4d\]: a18 seems to work to me
lunaspace [6d?\]: USGO1, How much time does each player have?
Algohol [2k\]: a 18 c15... and then?
USGO1 [-\]: I can't see black's clock from where I'm sitting, but white has 20 mins left
lunaspace [6d?\]: Okay, thanks. :)
USGO1 [-\]: black had a whole lot more time, the last I was able to check... almost twice as much
bert [2d?\]: a18 b15 c16 b17 b18 c17 
lunaspace [6d?\]: Thanks! I was only really concerned with white's time anyway. Matthew seems like he will win. 
ss28 [4d\]: so, just c16 ?
USGO1 [-\]: Matthew checks Andy's time... white is down to 14 mins left
USGO1 [-\]: Andy appears to shake off one variation in his head, as he begins reading another
mlkiop [4d\]: y, well, a18 is complicated...
agrog [1d\]: lol
mlkiop [4d\]: but c16 b17 is sad
TheCaptain [4d\]: it feels like b will win this game in yose
agrog [1d\]: mindreading usgo
USGO1 [-\]: just watching the head movements
agrog [1d\]: and speculating about brain activity :)
prisoner [1d\]: how many rounds does the tournament have?
Kaskai [4k\]: 9
prisoner [1d\]: ty
mate105 [2d\]: yeah I have sth good to watch for the whole week.
ss28 [4d\]: b15 c15 d15 a15 b17 c17 c16 a17 a16 a18 a19 a17 
jianq [3d\]: ?
]
;W[cd]
;B[bc]
;W[be]
;B[ab]C[rsun [6d\]: smoke
rsun [6d\]: b++
Mulltey [2k\]: c--
really88: ko
shakupan [6d\]: finally!
jianq [3d\]: ok what happened?
rsun [6d\]: free ko
WiseWolf [?\]: ya
jianq [3d\]: this is losing for white
]
;W[hk]
;B[ad]C[rsun [6d\]: smoke!
jewel [1k\]: and a14 too
]
;W[ae]C[alienist [5k\]: piknic ko for b
rsun [6d\]: not even ko!
jianq [3d\]: white could not afford to kill the corner anyway
q11 [4d\]: not totally free, he lost a few points of yose form the outside!
jewel [1k\]: b9 still open
rsun [6d\]: b doesn't know where to play now
lance [1k\]: netout  makes a trade
einstein [6d\]: h2 j2 h4 looks good
prisoner [1d\]: h9 wasnt good..
einstein [6d\]: and what about t16 s17 q15 ?
]
;B[hi]C[GlobalGogo: USGO, is b singing I CAME IN LIKE A WRECKING BALL at the moment?
]
;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[ns]
;B[bl]C[ylguikhij: .......
]
;W[bk]
;B[cm]C[jianq [3d\]: white 61 black 70
werdfer: b has been singing that song all game
jianq [3d\]: c9
GlobalGogo: b still has 70 minutes?
mate105 [2d\]: This is so cruel for white living in the corner like that :(
USGO1 [-\]: the clock gave the 5 min warning for white
]
;W[al]C[mlkiop [4d\]: still, the game ain't over
barty [2d\]: d8 
barty [2d\]: and black take sente
USGO1 [-\]: Andy checked Matthew's time... but it was so quick, I didn't see it
ylguikhij: starting time - 85 mins... = 
ylguikhij: or so..
GlobalGogo: b is counting now, can you ask him the score?
shakupan [6d\]: :)
]
;B[ho]
;W[io]
;B[hp]
;W[ip]
;B[hr]
;W[ir]
;B[sd]
;W[rc]C[chinchilka: b lived right next to w's main wall
Nyanjilla [-\]: calm down, GlobalGogo
chinchilka: plain amazing
]
;B[dl]
;W[ck]
;B[gq]C[GlobalGogo: calm down nyanyilla :-)
Janibi [2k\]: 45 sec byo afterwards?
USGO1 [-\]: 5 30's
prisoner [1d\]: b+ res
]
;W[gk]
;B[iq]C[shakupan [6d\]: i don't see how w can win
]
;W[pf]C[USGO1 [-\]: one minute warning for white
jianq [3d\]: hm
jianq [3d\]: black can ignore this?
GlobalGogo: Nyanjilla  try green tea against PMS
]
;B[rh]
;W[hq]C[GlobalGogo: helps my gf often
Nyanjilla [-\]: bye, GlobalGogo
]
;B[ka]
;W[oo]
;B[op]
;W[ps]
;B[qr]C[USGO1 [-\]: white in byo-yomi now
shakupan [6d\]: b so confident now
USGO1 [-\]: 4 periods left now
chinchilka: can w ko?
USGO1 [-\]: 3 periods left now
]
;W[hm]
;B[iq]
;W[cc]
;B[bb]
;W[hq]C[JanPetit01 [6k\]: w H7 b G8 w G6 bF7 w G5... if white J3
]
;B[ne]C[USGO1 [-\]: 2 periods left now
jianq [3d\]: black 76, white 64-65
]
;W[sc]
;B[iq]
;W[kc]
;B[kd]
;W[hq]C[Minjhou [6k\]: how does l17 work?
Minjhou [6k\]: m16, ok
JanPetit01 [6k\]: if w play K16 then he may eat l19 or still n17 ko
JanPetit01 [6k\]: I mean n17 can be used for ko but it's not a ko
]
;B[hn]
;W[qs]
;B[rs]
;W[os]
;B[rr]
;W[gl]
;B[iq]
;W[mc]
;B[ld]
;W[hq]
;B[ms]
;W[nr]
;B[iq]C[TDK [1d\]: really n1?
USGO1 [-\]: n1 played with a loud click
]
;W[fi]C[TDK [1d\]: why'd he waste a threat?
moesasji: then w gets m1
]
;B[in]
;W[jn]
;B[jr]C[JanPetit01 [6k\]: it's maybe a K2 futur friend
]
;W[hq]C[TDK [1d\]: maybe
]
;B[is]
;W[iq]
;B[kr]
;W[gr]
;B[hs]C[woebegone [3k\]: biig ko
woebegone [3k\]: no?
woebegone [3k\]: no ko?
chinchilka: f11 must be put to use
alienist [5k\]: disaster
USGO1 [-\]: last period left
jianq [3d\]: oh gosh
]
;W[js]
;B[ks]
;W[lr]
;B[kq]
;W[kp]
;B[fr]
;W[lq]
;B[gs]
;W[ls]
;B[js]C[jianq [3d\]: I was listening to the game explanation, what is happening to white
woebegone [3k\]: res
JanPetit01 [6k\]: f13
]
;W[fg]
;B[fh]
;W[ff]
;B[gg]
;W[ee]
;B[oe]
;W[pe]C[velocity [6k\]: what is white doing
shakupan [6d\]: losing a lost game
]
;B[am]
;W[bm]
;B[jo]
;W[jp]
;B[bl]C[JanPetit01 [6k\]: so what is he doing?
iceweasel [-\]: what was the losing move?
rsun [6d\]: keeping us together
]
;W[jc]C[JanPetit01 [6k\]: ^^
]
;B[jb]
;W[bm]C[prisoner [1d\]: nothing left to do but res
]
;B[ko]
;W[lp]
;B[bl]C[shakupan [6d\]: wise words by rsun
rsun [6d\]: any time
jianq [3d\]: r13
]
;W[nh]
;B[mh]
;W[bm]
;B[od]
;W[oc]
;B[bl]
;W[qg]C[youoldgods [1d?\]: i guess b won that lp
]
;B[rg]
;W[bm]C[youoldgods [1d?\]: ko*
]
;B[ce]
;W[af]
;B[bl]
;W[ak]
;B[oh]
;W[fm]
;B[gn]
;W[fa]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]
;B[pg]
;W[og]
;B[nj]
;W[nk]
;B[pg]
;W[qc]
;B[oi]
;W[og]
;B[pj]
;W[pk]
;B[pg]
;W[pj]C[USGO1 [-\]: sorry... too fast now...
]
;B[gb]
;W[ea]C[Alive [3k\]: it's ok
]
;B[pn]
;W[om]C[rex27 [1k\]: KEEPING US TOGETHER I REALLY LIKE IT
]
;B[ao]
;W[bo]C[mate105 [2d\]: Poor USGO1, you have done a pretty good job already.
]
;B[cp]
;W[ap]C[Vash3G [-\]: https://twitter.com/theaga/status/498856824570130432
]
;B[dj]
;W[an]C[rex27 [1k\]: or else i would ve gone 2 bed already
youoldgods [1d?\]: go andy! you can do it!
Alive [3k\]: a13
USGO1 [-\]: they're counting now
youoldgods [1d?\]: go andy! fudge the numbers in counting! you can do it!
mate105 [2d\]: Who is that kid?
Vash3G [-\]: The kid is Mathew Hu, playing as Black
Vash3G [-\]: He is a 2p from China living in Canada
mate105 [2d\]: He looks SO young.
USGO1 [-\]: Black wins by 9.5
USGO1 [-\]: thank you all for watching
mate105 [2d\]: How old is he?
bert [2d?\]: ty
mate105 [2d\]: Thanks USGO1
youoldgods [1d?\]: ty for the relay
USGO1 [-\]: next round tomorrow morning
JanPetit01 [6k\]: ty
SonYeJin [-\]: any website with all the result of the congress?
youoldgods [1d?\]: isn't there a round tonight?
USGO1 [-\]: no
youoldgods [1d?\]: okay. see you tomorrow then
USGO1 [-\]: last recorded move, 264
shipshape [?\]:  US Open Crosstab (No Data Yet): http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/169  US Open Masters Division Crosstab: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/170 
globax [3d\]: thx usgo1
]
;B[ij]
;W[ii]
;B[gi])
