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GN[SPO Board 1: 2012 Strong Players Open - Mingming (Stephanie) Yin 1p (W) v. Gansheng Shi 1p (B)]PW[Mingming (Stephanie) Yin 1p (W)]PB[Gansheng Shi 1p (B)]WR[1p]BR[1p]DT[2012-08-06]CP[2012 American Go Association]EV[SPO Board 1: 2012 Strong Players Open]RO[Round 2]PC[Black Mountain, NC, US Go congress. The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/ ]US[Peter W. W. Gousios]C[USGO5 [-\]: The players are gathering.
USGO5 [-\]: game has just started.
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dc]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[qk]C[DariusA [3d\]: this should be board 1 :p
minimalist [1k\]: what are the time settings?
Ganymed [7k\]: 90 mins each
minimalist [1k\]: thx
Ganymed [7k\]: Then 5x1min byo-yomi iirc
Roughneck [3d?\]: This is strong players open, not North American Masters though, hence not board 1
]
;W[nc]
;B[pf]
;W[kd]
;B[jp]
;W[po]C[Architect [5k\]: black is canadian
minimalist [1k\]: fresh 1p :)
]
;B[np]
;W[qq]
;B[qr]
;W[qp]
;B[rr]
;W[qm]C[Koffein [-\]: does/did gansheng shi play on kgs?
]
;B[nn]
;W[om]
;B[on]
;W[pn]
;B[pl]C[Ganymed [7k\]: Gifted
]
;W[rk]
;B[rj]C[Koffein [-\]: thx
]
;W[rl]
;B[qi]C[Ganymed [7k\]: Whoa, they play fast!
]
;W[pj]
;B[qj]C[Koffein [-\]: basic opening
]
;W[pm]C[Koffein [-\]: well, usually r11 is at r10 .. that peepl looks good for white
Koffein [-\]: -l
Architect [5k\]: how old is black?
Koffein [-\]: "11 Year Go Player, started since I was 6." from his inf
Koffein [-\]: o
Architect [5k\]: :o
]
;B[de]C[Architect [5k\]: he will be strong after his training
Jayy [-\]: b is around 17 I believe
Koffein [-\]: many choices for white now.  which one is best?
Koffein [-\]: f16 c17 c18 c12 c16 c9 ? or d13 f15 f17 c17 c18 c16 e18 c13 c12 d12 ?
Ganymed [7k\]: I like D12
]
;W[dh]C[Koffein [-\]: f15 ?
Crypto [3d?\]: h16 ?
Koffein [-\]: ah, h16 is a funny move :-)
Crypto [3d?\]: :-)
minimalist [1k\]: g16
Koffein [-\]: usually tenuki (around d9 ), since black has no good continuation .. but d9 here looks like it's just taking territory
Ganymed [7k\]: :) Mingming Yin is good, D15 has problems with L16 in place
USGO5 [-\]: Mingming went to get a drink, and is now checking on other boards of tournament.
Crypto [3d?\]: you don't have video stream in america?
]
;B[ec]
;W[eb]
;B[ed]
;W[fb]
;B[cc]
;W[cb]C[Koffein [-\]: but they have very talkative scribes :-)
Crypto [3d?\]: :-) reminds me of something ^^ 
FlameBlade [-\]: Board 1 has video, by the way
Crypto [3d?\]: oho
Crypto [3d?\]: link?
FlameBlade [-\]: USGO1 game will have the link
FlameBlade [-\]: too busy at the moment ^^
]
;B[bc]C[shipshape [?\]:  http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US - live video for board 1
]
;W[gd]
;B[dd]
;W[db]
;B[cg]
;W[ch]
;B[bh]
;W[bi]
;B[bg]C[Crypto [3d?\]: oho :-) never saw this joseki in current pro play before
]
;W[lq]C[Ganymed [7k\]: Feels like w has a small advantage
]
;B[nq]
;W[hq]
;B[jq]C[USGO5 [-\]: Gansheng checking on other boards now.
]
;W[fp]
;B[ep]
;W[eq]
;B[eo]
;W[do]
;B[en]
;W[fr]
;B[dq]
;W[er]
;B[ci]
;W[dj]
;B[cj]
;W[ck]
;B[bj]
;W[bk]
;B[di]
;W[ei]
;B[ai]
;W[ej]
;B[cm]
;W[dm]
;B[id]
;W[gf]C[USGO5 [-\]: Mingming and Gansheng are very focused on the game right now
]
;B[hb]
;W[gb]
;B[lc]
;W[kc]
;B[kb]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: wow lower left was a disater for black
]
;W[ld]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: e4 should e3 i think
]
;B[hc]C[Ganymed [7k\]: It will be very exciting to see b play after 6 month Korean pro training.
]
;W[fd]
;B[lb]C[Ganymed [7k\]: Oooh, just remembered that Mingming Yin is the current titleholder! Surely plays like one. :)
]
;W[pc]
;B[qc]
;W[od]
;B[pb]
;W[pe]
;B[dn]
;W[co]
;B[oc]
;W[qd]
;B[qe]
;W[pc]
;B[bn]
;W[ob]
;B[bo]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: wow
]
;W[qf]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: huge trade
Uberdude [4d?\]: i like b i think
]
;B[re]
;W[rd]
;B[rf]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[pg]
;B[jc]C[USGO5 [-\]: lots of interest from other players in this game right now.
Ganymed [7k\]: Understandable.
globax [3d\]: could p11 kill?
]
;W[oi]C[globax [3d\]: :)
]
;B[sd]C[globax [3d\]: t15, b locally dead
]
;W[se]C[globax [3d\]: :)
]
;B[sf]
;W[rc]
;B[nk]
;W[nm]C[USGO5 [-\]: mimgming has about 22 minutes left
USGO5 [-\]: Gansheng has about 46 minutes left
]
;B[oh]
;W[nh]
;B[og]
;W[of]
;B[ph]
;W[ng]
;B[qh]
;W[pf]
;B[sh]
;W[lo]
;B[mn]
;W[kn]C[globax [3d\]: m2-j15?
]
;B[jn]C[globax [3d\]: d2 big now
]
;W[jm]
;B[jo]
;W[kl]
;B[lm]
;W[km]
;B[dr]C[globax [3d\]: :)
globax [3d\]: it was w sente
]
;W[ir]
;B[jr]
;W[gp]C[globax [3d\]: painful for w to live gote
globax [3d\]: m4 or j14?
]
;B[lp]C[globax [3d\]: :)
USGO5 [-\]: Gansheng stretching his legs for a bit
BrianH [9k\]: ohoh
globax [3d\]: m10 nice point
]
;W[mp]
;B[kp]
;W[mo]
;B[mq]C[USGO5 [-\]: Mingming has 10 minutes basic time left
Uberdude [4d?\]: b caught up nicely
Uberdude [4d?\]: after lower left disaster
Ganymed [7k\]: ignoring that ko threat was a disputable decision
globax [3d\]: d2 miss was at least 4 points loss
globax [3d\]: maybe 10
]
;W[jd]
;B[ja]
;W[ie]
;B[hd]
;W[he]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: 4?
Uberdude [4d?\]: much more
]
;B[mj]
;W[mi]
;B[kj]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: double sente like infinite =)
]
;W[pk]
;B[ql]
;W[ol]
;B[ok]
;W[ni]
;B[ll]C[USGO5 [-\]: Mingming has 1 minute left bt
Uberdude [4d?\]: p4 damezumari?
]
;W[lk]
;B[ml]
;W[ln]C[USGO5 [-\]: white in overtime now
]
;B[mm]
;W[no]C[Roughneck [3d?\]: ouch
]
;B[oo]
;W[op]C[globax [3d\]: w has to defend s6 later
USGO5 [-\]: Gansheng still has 35 min.
Roughneck [3d?\]: Do we get to see a fight with L9?
kjhj: l8 and w resign
]
;B[kk]
;W[oq]
;B[or]
;W[pp]
;B[pr]C[globax [3d\]: s3 mandatory?
]
;W[lr]
;B[mr]C[USGO5 [-\]: white down to 4 periods now
]
;W[jk]
;B[jj]
;W[hk]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: b needs m11?
Uberdude [4d?\]: might die
globax [3d\]: s6 nasty
USGO5 [-\]: Gansheng (b) has 30 min remaining
]
;B[rn]
;W[rm]
;B[so]C[jasch [2k?\]: wait what? why doesn' w just s5 instead of connecting?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: t3 s3 s4 t4 s5 t6 r6 t2 t7 t3 t9 
globax [3d\]: yep
jasch [2k?\]: well ok it live like that too ^^
USGO5 [-\]: white has 3 periods left
globax [3d\]: t3-s3-s4-s9
globax [3d\]: s4-t9*
Uberdude [4d?\]: so it seems b m4 was grreedy
]
;W[ij]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: should just m2
Skel [1d\]: sick head
Uberdude [4d?\]: that avoids the damezumari
stongplr [3d?\]: seems like w will win
globax [3d\]: by res
Uberdude [4d?\]: that's my assumption without reading
Uberdude [4d?\]: many libs
]
;B[ji]C[stongplr [3d?\]: w can just live too
globax [3d\]: m11-m10-t3
stongplr [3d?\]: with globax's t3 move
]
;W[li]
;B[lj]
;W[ii]
;B[jh]C[gobugobu [6d\]: k13 
Aokame [?\]: hmm? i never heard of mingming before?
gobugobu [6d\]: or what is s5 ?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: t3 s3 s4 t9 s5 
globax [3d\]: painful for b
gobugobu [6d\]: s5 t4 r6 t6 t3 s3 s4 t2 t7 makes two eyes
]
;W[sq]C[gobugobu [6d\]: so W should start at t3 
gobugobu [6d\]: because if he starts at s5 , b plays t3 \]
globax [3d\]: s4-s3-t9
gobugobu [6d\]: game over
gobugobu [6d\]: W has too many libs now
gobugobu [6d\]: locally W dies, but
globax [3d\]: yep
jasch [2k?\]: why does w die locally?
globax [3d\]: rabbity six ?
jasch [2k?\]: what is the klling move there?
gobugobu [6d\]: s3 s4 s5 t4 t9 --- hmm this is only a sort of 1000-years ko
jasch [2k?\]: hm
threeoone [3k\]: w is plain dead imho
]
;B[jf]C[gobugobu [6d\]: you may have a humble opinion, but it still wrong
jasch [2k?\]: looks like seki to me °_°
gobugobu [6d\]: s3 s4 t4 s5 t6 r6 lives
Koyou [-\]: yeah...w not dead yet...
globax [3d\]: nice game to look at anyway :)
gobugobu [6d\]: s3 s3 s3 s4 s5 t4 t9 t8 is too large an eye
Koyou [-\]: well, can't say yet cuz idk if it'll die
]
;W[ig]
;B[il]
;W[ik]C[gobugobu [6d\]: haaa
Warfreak2 [4d\]: pretty ladder
Warfreak2 [4d\]: useful d4 stones
gobugobu [6d\]: can you read ladders, Sir?
Roughneck [3d?\]: funny how that works out
]
;B[jg]C[Koyou [-\]: lol yeah
gobugobu [6d\]: k8 j7 h8 g8 h7 h6 g7 f7 g6 f6 g5 h5 
jasch [2k?\]: no ladder ?
jasch [2k?\]: ends in b capturing d4 no?
gobugobu [6d\]: read it and keep reading
]
;W[je]C[jasch [2k?\]: ah nvm
Roughneck [3d?\]: problem with ladders is there is no time to make a non-ladder move
gobugobu [6d\]: m14 m13 or m13 l14 ?
]
;B[lf]C[gobugobu [6d\]: really?
gobugobu [6d\]: anyway, so B choses m14 m13 variation
]
;W[lg]C[gobugobu [6d\]: or w will play at n14 
]
;B[mf]
;W[nf]C[gobugobu [6d\]: this is a hopeless case of hopelessness
USGO5 [-\]: Black has about 19 minutes BT left
gobugobu [6d\]: time doesn't mattter it
Roughneck [3d?\]: It does with W in overtime
gobugobu [6d\]: ok, but it is simple now
Roughneck [3d?\]: Though w should be able to manage the clock now I'd think
kyyni [3k\]: the ladder workds for white if white f7 and f6
]
;B[rq]
;W[rp]
;B[ro]C[gobugobu [6d\]: yes
gobugobu [6d\]: very good, kyyni
dogbert [3d\]: thousand year ko
]
;W[sp]
;B[sk]C[gobugobu [6d\]: at least a 1000 years, I don't we will see the actual ko
Warfreak2 [4d\]: shortest 10,000 year ko ever, since b is forced to start it
Roughneck [3d?\]: 10 minute ko
gobugobu [6d\]: I don't think we will see the ko
stongplr [3d?\]: its the only way for b
Hightime [3d\]: we are forced to see it...
Warfreak2 [4d\]: you mean w t7?
gobugobu [6d\]: but anyway, t8 t10 t2 ?
]
;W[sl]
;B[sj]C[gobugobu [6d\]: t2 is testy
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if w t7 instead of t8, he wins the capturing race by like 4 liberties
gobugobu [6d\]: reallly?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: big eye is big
]
;W[kf]C[gobugobu [6d\]: then first of all B will play l14 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yep, i got that
Warfreak2 [4d\]: did not escape my admittedly weak judgement
gobugobu [6d\]: so, this is the vital point
Warfreak2 [4d\]: nah, l14 no biggy
Warfreak2 [4d\]: big eye is big
gobugobu [6d\]: B would have had 13 libs if he had played t8 at t7 
]
;B[sr]C[gobugobu [6d\]: I mean W would have had 13 libs
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes, but w t7 has libs at t10 t8 t2 o8 not to mention all those libs inside
gobugobu [6d\]: and B would have had 11 libs
boobgoober [3k\]: w needs t7 to stop ko
gobugobu [6d\]: and it's furthermore W's turn
xedover [?\]: t7 white win
MrGString [9k\]: b middel dead, crrect?
]
;W[ms]
;B[nr]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: right, so w wins by 3 libs
gobugobu [6d\]: I think W should have exchanged t2 for s1, just for the hell of it
xedover [?\]: this is curtis <--
xedover [?\]: t7
]
;W[sm]C[xedover [?\]: yes
Warfreak2 [4d\]: so what was t8 for
calgacus [3d\]: lol
]
;B[sn]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: just remove two of your own liberties
MrGString [9k\]: ug why t7?
Hightime [3d\]: to win semeai
Roughneck [3d?\]: T7 stops the ko
Uberdude [4d?\]: power square battle!
Hightime [3d\]: no ko
xedover [?\]: die in gote
]
;W[kg]C[rjm [1d\]: white is ahead by several liberties
globax [3d\]: t7 nice shape^^
Roughneck [3d?\]: Would have been amusing for W to play elsewhere
Warfreak2 [4d\]: where elsewhere
USGO5 [-\]: Black resigns
Warfreak2 [4d\]: just kill and win by resign
gobugobu [6d\]: yes
globax [3d\]: thx usgo5
anicca [2d\]: elsewhere :)
anicca [2d\]: it is not a blitz fere kgs game
anicca [2d\]: free
Uberdude [4d?\]: so l10 should have been m10
gobugobu [6d\]: good morning from Tokyo and thank you 
Uberdude [4d?\]: then no p4 problem
USGO5 [-\]: your welcome
USGO5 [-\]: exciting game to record
Uberdude [4d?\]: i wonder if b saw the problem
acn [1d\]: good night from usa and thank you gobugobu
Uberdude [4d?\]: and counted he needed further
gobugobu [6d\]: sleep well
nucklehead [6k\]: good lunch time from an airplane in some timezone somewhere
hinai [11k\]: morning here
hinai [11k\]: breakfast time
globax [3d\]: 4 am here
globax [3d\]: ^^
hinai [11k\]: 6 here
globax [3d\]: 8)
nucklehead [6k\]: and what would that be in byoyomi time?
gobugobu [6d\]: btw, t5 was the definite losing move
derplax [6k\]: w have more lib
gobugobu [6d\]: B should have played s4 s3 t3 s5 t5 and started a ko
gobugobu [6d\]: during the ko, B should play ko threats to make his center alive
gobugobu [6d\]: That would give a good fighting chance
gobugobu [6d\]: t5 was bad reading
])
