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RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[2012 US Open, Rd 3 Bd 2, Curtis Tang (W) vs Andy Liu]PW[Curtis Tang]PB[ Andy (Zhi Yuan) Liu]WR[7d]BR[1p]DT[2012-08-07]CP[AGA E-Journal]EV[2012 US Open]RO[3]PC[US Go Congress 2012, Black Mountain NC]US[Daniel Short]C[USGO2 [-\]: Both players are the table, debating which side of table to take.
USGO2 [-\]: Looks like they may be playing from the same side of the table, given that they moved the go bowls to the same side of the table
mw0x2a [2k?\]: curtis will sit on andy's lap?
USGO2 [-\]: Matthew Hu (from board 1) joined in the playful banter at the table
USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to 2012 US Open at US Go Congress in Black Mountain, NC, Round 3 Board 2!  We are going to watch Curtis Tang 7d (W) vs Andy Liu 1p (B).
cloudbrows [7k\]: Awesome.
USGO2 [-\]: We will begin  within a few minutes.
USGO2 [-\]: now both players are seated at their respective seats across each other at the table.
mw0x2a [2k?\]: why is jing yang listed in third despite playing 0 games?
USGO2 [-\]: You can track the US Open results of your favorite player! http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/163
mw0x2a [2k?\]: oh, i see. that's just entry number
CBlue [?\]: always enjoying reading that "1p" ^^
USGO2 [-\]: Both players bow, and the clock is started.
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;B[qd]
;W[cc]
;B[pq]C[USGO2 [-\]: both players smiling each other as they play out first few moves
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;W[dp]C[cloudbrows [7k\]: go siegen style opening for white
mw0x2a [2k?\]: they are enemies. this is inappropriate
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;B[fd]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: curtis tang is cjheaven on kgs
Kanin [-\]: go curtis!
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;W[cf]
;B[kc]C[USGO2 [-\]: Andy gests up and left the room.  Each of move so far was played with a solid "CLACK!"
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;W[po]C[USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to 2012 US Open at US Go Congress in Black Mountain, NC, Round 3 Board 2!  We are watching Curtis Tang 7d (W) vs Andy Liu 1p (B).
USGO2 [-\]: With this move, Curtis got up and left the room.  Nobody at the table at the moment.
cloudbrows [7k\]: the empty table cries for Q8
Christos [-\]: How many players are participating USGO2? 
USGO2 [-\]: Andy is on his way back...--he's looking at first board now
USGO2 [-\]: in the tournament?
Christos [-\]: Yes
USGO2 [-\]: you can look at this pairings listing -- http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/163
USGO2 [-\]: over 300, I'd say, but I'll try to get the exact numbers
USGO2 [-\]: Andy's back
USGO2 [-\]: around 330 players, it appears.
USGO2 [-\]: correction -- 313
Christos [-\]: Awesome, Thanks <3
cloudbrows [7k\]: I wonder what the median rating is
mw0x2a [2k?\]: 286 active players, though
Christos [-\]: I don't know why but I expected it to be bigger than the European Go Congress
Kanin [6d\]: europe is actually bigger than the states :P
shipshape [?\]: Median active tournament player is roughly 1 kyu to 1 dan.
Goprince [4d\]: so andy and who else became pro?
mw0x2a [2k?\]: gansheng shi from canadia
Goprince [4d\]: wow 
Goprince [4d\]: lol gansheng is pro =/
mw0x2a [2k?\]: why is andy thinking so long to a two space high pincer?
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;B[qm]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: aww
Christos [-\]: because a 2 space high pincer is obviously wrong :P
Christos [-\]: See!
Goprince [4d\]: because not everytime that there is a high approach u need to play a two space high pincer 
Newax [1d\]: p6 ?
cloudbrows [7k\]: to be clear, I was hoping for the magic sword more out of a desire to see insidious complication
mw0x2a [2k?\]: ty for the insightful comment, goprince
Goprince [4d\]: ur welcome
USGO2 [-\]: Yilun Yang comes by as Andy is trying to open his orange juice carton.
evanj [3d\]: what kind of 1p can't open a carton of orange juice
Newax [1d\]: Andy is 23k at orange juice carton opening so might take a while
mw0x2a [2k?\]: just stab the side with a knife and suck the juice out of the hole
mw0x2a [2k?\]: that's how men open cartons
bobstep [6k\]: no knives allowed in tournament room
mw0x2a [2k?\]: silly. how are you supposed to stab your opponent if you lose?
Syu [2k\]: with your nail
Newax [1d\]: w cant tenuki here
Goprince [4d\]: can always tenuki
Newax [1d\]: but r5 is severe
evanj [3d\]: tenuki is only fun when you're not supposed to do it
Goprince [4d\]: not so sever
Goprince [4d\]: severe
Newax [1d\]: is p6 played in high level games ?
evanj [3d\]: i love p6, so absolutely not
Koyou [-\]: not necessarily...
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis is focusing intently on what to play next
USGO2 [-\]: he has barely moved in the past 5 minutes
Goprince [4d\]: hard to find the move
evanj [3d\]: only 352 choices
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;W[qq]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: well, this was... expected
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis plays the move, but Andy is nowhere to be seen.
Goprince [4d\]: b is happy
USGO2 [-\]: Yilun Yang looks over the game
USGO2 [-\]: then moves on to board 1.
Newax [1d\]: b will r4 here ?
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis left the board, leaving me to look over to other boards...I can say that this game is much slower than the rest of games being played in here.
mw0x2a [2k?\]: remove a black stone and put a grape in its place. see how long it takes for themt o notice
USGO2 [-\]: Matthew Hu comes over to the empty table and looks at the game
iTengen [2k\]: B will CRUSH
USGO2 [-\]: Andy comes back
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;B[mq]C[USGO2 [-\]: plays a move, then leaves the table
cloudbrows [7k\]: blink
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis is back, notices the new move on the board.
Goprince [4d\]: m4 powa
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;W[pp]
;B[pr]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: but did they notice the grape?
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;W[ro]
;B[qr]C[Newax [1d\]: dislikes this for w
mw0x2a [2k?\]: who does?
Goprince [4d\]: will b play the awesome p7??
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;W[qk]C[blurb1: r9 joseki
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;B[qi]C[Goprince [4d\]: oh :(
mw0x2a [2k?\]: looks like b wanted r11
mw0x2a [2k?\]: this looks good for b
blurb1: finsh with q8
blurb1: +i
mw0x2a [2k?\]: q8i?
barakeel [3d\]: q8 is very bad
Goprince [4d\]: q8 joseki
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;W[od]C[USGO2 [-\]: Curtis used 22 minutes to Andy's 12 minutes.  (Andy just did time check)
barakeel [3d\]: its bad to play joseki goprince*
Goprince [4d\]: lol
Goprince [4d\]: q7 so sever now
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;B[pc]C[Demon [3d\]: i agree with barakeel
Goprince [4d\]: thats y ur both 3 d :p
blurb1: in 50% of the cases joseki has to be adjusted to the circumstances the 9p said^^^
barakeel [3d\]: only 50 percent ^^
barakeel [3d\]: ?
Kotomi [6d\]: ^^ normally its a good idea to adjust the joseki as you play 
Goprince [4d\]: lol
atiyah [2d\]: i don't think i know any joseki that can be adjusted without killing me
Kotomi [6d\]: Mm ive learned a couple :)
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;W[qe]C[USGO2 [-\]: I'm noticing a pattern here...in the past few moves, Curtis played a move...when Andy is gone.  This is the case here.
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;B[pd]
;W[pe]
;B[oe]
;W[pg]C[Kotomi [6d\]: black played the empty triangle XD
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;B[oi]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: did andy make any comments about his half point win last night at the ing masters?
barakeel [3d\]: he should resign
atiyah [2d\]: i figured out long ago that the conventional wisdom about empty triangles is just an elaborate conspiracy to keep kyus in their place
Christos [-\]: Empty triangle best triangle
bobstep [6k\]: sounds about right
mw0x2a [2k?\]: it's just to stop ddks from making the shape out in empty space for no reason
Kotomi [6d\]: XD i dont even know what that means....
mw0x2a [2k?\]: a lot of beginners like to make the shape for some reason
Kotomi [6d\]: this situation seems hard on white
mw0x2a [2k?\]: not even ddks. 20+k
Kotomi [6d\]: white is running with 3 groups
Kotomi [6d\]: blacks only weak stone is r7 and than the q17 bad shape but p11 and r11 help both of those stones
test11: perhaps it's just a prelude to a b2 bomer project in the corner....
barakeel [3d\]: i love white position
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;W[oc]C[Kotomi [6d\]: mm im liking blacks more right now so far
Kotomi [6d\]: playing the empty triangle was interesting
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;B[rd]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: that empty triangle is nothing new
mw0x2a [2k?\]: after p16 and r15, q16 and cut is common
barakeel [3d\]: now q11
barakeel [3d\]: cut the tobi
Kotomi [6d\]: oh i know its nothign new 
Kotomi [6d\]: but i differ ont he common part :)
Kotomi [6d\]: i watch a LOT of go matches and empty triangle at the beggining like this is very rare
Kotomi [6d\]: compared to other moves
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis goes for Q11...then withdraws.
USGO2 [-\]: it appears
Huldioho [10k\]: now i will play all time triangles, because a pro did that too :)
barakeel [3d\]: white need to make a fifth group
Kotomi [6d\]: but new no i defenitly seen it before but im curious how andy will play withit and how curtis will try to use it to his advantage if he can
mw0x2a [2k?\]: kotomi, just searched my database, a little out of date, but it is by far the most common move
Demon [3d\]: well the empty triangle in that case is often played to cut and fight when he's strong in the area.  any other move would be too lenient on the opponent
Kotomi [6d\]: i really doubt that :P
mw0x2a [2k?\]: uhh, okay
Kotomi [6d\]: what "database"
Kotomi [6d\]: whats it called ^^
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;W[ni]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: pro games off igokisen
USGO2 [-\]: A sharp klack!
iTengen [2k\]: O11 30k genius
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;B[oj]C[Demon [3d\]: b+res in 29 moves?  =O
iTengen [2k\]: B mind games working
Kotomi [6d\]: ill take a look at it now :)
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;W[ph]C[EdExley [6k\]: it's called the "if-someone-finds-something-interesting-I-show-off-by-declaring-its-old-and-common-and-I've-seen-it-all"-database...
EdExley [6k\]: =P
Kotomi [6d\]: lol :3
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;B[ne]C[Kotomi [6d\]: well i understand its not new i defenitly know its old ive seen it a couple times but that doesnt mean its not rare 
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;W[pi]C[Kotomi [6d\]: (played rarely)
barakeel [3d\]: rare means bad
Demon [3d\]: but really, the p16 q17 r15 q16 q15 p15 sequence is quite common
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;B[le]C[Kotomi [6d\]: and if you see 10,000 uses id say DUH i bet you ten to one youd get 20k on another (im not actually sure on the statistics of how many times joseki has been played actually) but im really sure ive never seen a player do q16 i seen some pros but never any amas
Kotomi [6d\]: and ive still seen the 2 common joseki 10times more than the q16 play out
USGO2 [-\]: the players very quietly comment to each other then straighten the stones on the board
Demon [3d\]: i've seen many pros *and* amas play q16 in that sequence.  do you watch games under a rock or something kotomi?  :S
mw0x2a [2k?\]: i really hate 3-6d. such egos for some reason, okay, kotomi. you're right and my database is lying. happy? let's move on
EdExley [6k\]: =D
Huldioho [10k\]: now white turned the page?
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;W[re]
;B[ol]C[barakeel [3d\]: what was that mw0x2a?
Kotomi [6d\]: lol demon i wont even argue with you your just mad
USGO2 [-\]: curtis had a number of stones in hand then stretched out his hands, one of the stones went flying to the other side of the table near this recorder
Demon [3d\]: you're*  i'm not mad at all.  but don't give people misinformation about a move that is actually pretty common in that situation
Kotomi [6d\]: as for mw i dont think your ego is any better than mine ^^ not to mention i dont have any ego at all personally i think i suck at go :P if it makes you feel any better i was only commenting that i dont think its common because ive rarely seen it no need to get so rude^^
barakeel [3d\]: usgo trying to keep the game interesting thanks
Kotomi [6d\]: i just wanted to see for myself if it was really common theres nothing wrong with that
Kotomi [6d\]: Demon if i didnt know it wasnt common how am i suppose to give the correct information and if were talking about wrong information than why are you still commenting ^^ i bet you could call out about many moves on this board and be wrong almost 100% of the time
mw0x2a [2k?\]: game still looks good for b
Kotomi [6d\]: we all have our right to an opinion get over yourself ^^
Huldioho [10k\]: please discuss that in privaat
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis used up 37 minutes so far.
USGO2 [-\]: In comparison, Andy only used 16 minutes.
shapsie [?\]: q6?
mw0x2a [2k?\]: not new for andy
Demon [3d\]: i wonder if andy is going to change his time usage once he starts playing in those pro league games  :)
Newax [1d\]: s15 wasnt  maybe the best move to reduce aji
USGO2 [-\]: Gangshen Shi comes along, and Curtis entered some playful banter with him while thinking.
USGO2 [-\]: Andy leaves the board to look at board 1
USGO2 [-\]: For those who just joined us, we are currently watching Curtis Tang 7d (W) vs Andy Liu 1p (B) on board 2 of the third round of 2012 US Open at US Go Congress in Black Mountain, NC.
USGO2 [-\]: You can track the US Open results of your favorite player! http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/163
USGO2 [-\]: excuse me -- that was Gansheng Shi.
mw0x2a [2k?\]: why isn't gansheng shi playing in the open?
Kotomi [6d\]: XD i did that once ~
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;W[rm]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: nvm, he is
Kotomi [6d\]: he is but he said hes not on the top boards yet
USGO2 [-\]: Gansheng Shi is....just not on the top boards
Newax [1d\]: submissive move
mw0x2a [2k?\]: didn't see his name when scrolling through
Kotomi [6d\]: bill isnt in the redmond this year :<
mw0x2a [2k?\]: too old
mw0x2a [2k?\]: ?
Kotomi [6d\]: no
Kotomi [6d\]: he told me he was too busy
Kotomi [6d\]: so he wasnt able to make the prelims
CBlue [?\]: did andy and gansheng get an official pro certificate?
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;B[ng]C[Kotomi [6d\]: not till the 31st i think CBlue 
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis nodded as if he expected this move.
iTengen [2k\]: i love this commentary
USGO2 [-\]: Board 1 has a live game commentaries -- USGO5
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;W[dn]C[iTengen [2k\]: some of the dudes don't do it
mw0x2a [2k?\]: lots of coughing going on in that room
USGO2 [-\]: with Yilun Yang 7p and Shirley Lin 1p
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;B[dg]C[iTengen [2k\]: i definitely want to know when Liu nods
iTengen [2k\]: if he nods, we should be nodding as well people
Newax [1d\]: moyo game
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;W[ee]C[USGO2 [-\]: Andy is leaning forward far, taking a closer look at the corner.
Kotomi [6d\]: yeah mw the last 2 rounds the USGO people said it were freezing or chilly in there XD
USGO2 [-\]: yep, it's still chilly in here.  Everyone in here is wising up to it now.
USGO2 [-\]: wearing pants, light jacket, etc
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;B[fe]
;W[ef]C[Meepy [-\]: who's mw?
mw0x2a [2k?\]: that's good. it'll keep brains from overheating
iTengen [2k\]: well i'm glad everyone's put some pants on
Meepy [-\]: oh
Kotomi [6d\]: hi meepy
iTengen [2k\]: crikey
Kotomi [6d\]: lolol XD
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;B[dc]C[Meepy [-\]: ya, I meeped over there on sunday and it was darn chilly
atiyah [2d\]: d17?
Meepy [-\]: but I believe your brain works better when it's cold
atiyah [2d\]: just c16 and d17 looks silly
evanj [3d\]: up to a point
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;W[db]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: obviously, evanj
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;B[ec]C[evanj [3d\]: well, it's important to be accurate
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;W[cb]C[USGO2 [-\]: CLACK!
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;B[cg]
;W[bf]
;B[ck]C[USGO2 [-\]: time check!  Andy used up 23 minutes, Curtis used up 48 minutes.
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu's looking over the board at the moment
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;W[jc]C[MaedaRyo [6p\]: hi
USGO2 [-\]: hello, Maeda!
USGO2 [-\]: Andy is shaking his head as he is reading out the situation on the board
Demon [3d\]: andy thiunking, "i must win while using less than half the time my opponents use!"
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;B[jd]C[iTengen [2k\]: just like go seigen
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;W[kb]
;B[jb]
;W[ic]
;B[ib]C[CBlue [?\]: gangnam style!
Kotomi [6d\]: lol
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;W[lb]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: ladder works!
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;B[hc]
;W[pb]
;B[qb]
;W[nb]
;B[pa]
;W[id]
;B[ie]C[iTengen [2k\]: isn't this a ko threar?
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;W[oa]
;B[ob]
;W[hd]
;B[he]
;W[pb]
;B[qa]C[iTengen [2k\]: am i lagging or was P19 played after J16?
USGO2 [-\]: surprised me too.
LeoMar [3k\]: w aiming at s17 ?
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis mutters something, and Andy shakes his head as if, "No, you can't have this."
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis at 1 hour, 4 minutes, Andy at 1 hour, 32 minutes
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;W[rb]C[USGO2 [-\]: Andy isn't at the table when the move was played -- still isn't here.
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;B[ob]
;W[gd]
;B[gc]
;W[pb]
;B[cd]C[iTengen [2k\]: that's better than S17? no diff?
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;W[ob]
;B[bd]
;W[dd]
;B[de]
;W[ed]C[Kotomi [6d\]: which move is better than s17?
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;B[df]
;W[eb]C[LeoMar [3k\]: s18
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;B[fc]
;W[bc]
;B[ce]C[Kotomi [6d\]: black has more local ko threats if white plays s17
Cassis0 [5d\]: terrible for w
LeoMar [3k\]: i see. thx kotomi
Kotomi [6d\]: so yeah s18 is better than s17 
Kotomi [6d\]: np ^^
Kotomi [6d\]: hi cassis
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;W[ek]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: g9!
CBlue [?\]: j4 or something?
USGO2 [-\]: For those who just joined us, we are currently watching Curtis Tang 7d (W) vs Andy Liu 1p (B) on board 2 of the third round of 2012 US Open at US Go Congress in Black Mountain, NC.
USGO2 [-\]: You can track the US Open results of your favorite player! http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/163
iTengen [2k\]: I didn't know he was pro
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;B[fq]C[Kotomi [6d\]: yeah he just made pro recently 
iTengen [2k\]: nie
Kotomi [6d\]: GanSheng Shi also did 
mw0x2a [2k?\]: just turned pro this past thursday
Kotomi [6d\]: yep yep it was the U.S pro tournament
USGO2 [-\]: Nobody at the table at the moment.
vsai [2k\]: when did matthew become pro
USGO2 [-\]: Aaron Ye, very young 5d...goes over to Curtis Tang, who was looking at Board 1...pokes at him, "Your turn!"
DivineFTL [4d\]: hahaha
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis has yet to return to the table
USGO2 [-\]: Now he's back
mw0x2a [2k?\]: curtis being awfully liberal with his time
mw0x2a [2k?\]: considering he is behind on the clock
mw0x2a [2k?\]: he must feel he has this game in the bag and andy is no real challenge for him
vsai [2k\]: (not)
LeoMar [3k\]: really? white is leading?
USGO2 [-\]: Gansheng Shi just shook his head at Curtis.
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;W[cj]C[USGO2 [-\]: Curtis played C10 with a sharp klack
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;B[bj]
;W[cl]C[USGO2 [-\]: Andy points at C8 and shakes his head while smiling.
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;B[dj]C[USGO2 [-\]: seems that he's implying that C8 is not good...Curtis was surprised by D10.
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;W[ej]
;B[dk]
;W[dl]
;B[bl]
;W[ei]
;B[fh]
;W[ci]
;B[bi]
;W[di]
;B[bk]
;W[hj]C[USGO2 [-\]: Curtis nearly played C11 with one of his prisoners
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;B[fo]C[USGO2 [-\]: He quickly paused to Andy's smile, and set off the sequence around C11
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis is now at 54 minutes, Andy at 1 hour, 22 minutes
CBlue [?\]: is w n5 too slow?
CBlue [?\]: i'd like it here
mw0x2a [2k?\]: n5 looks bad to me
CBlue [?\]: my idea was to aim at karami and reduction
mw0x2a [2k?\]: no idea what karami is
CBlue [?\]: splitting
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;W[gh]C[USGO2 [-\]: Cathy Li 1p comes and looks at the board.
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis gets up and joins Mingming Yin 1p at board 1
megaschaf [1k\]: is andy milanmilan
LeoMar [3k\]: n5 looks like a nice spot, considering p11 stones are attackable
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;B[gg]
;W[eh]
;B[eg]
;W[fi]C[mw0x2a [2k?\]: no, andy is bigbadwolf
megaschaf [1k\]: ?
megaschaf [1k\]: ah right
USGO2 [-\]: Andy seems surprised by F11
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;B[dr]
;W[fg]C[megaschaf [1k\]: and is there a livestream ?
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;B[gf]C[USGO2 [-\]: yeah, for board 1...join USGO1 for details
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;W[lp]
;B[lq]
;W[jp]
;B[cq]
;W[oh]C[Goprince [-\]: w had easy win but seems hes played a few slow moves
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;B[km]
;W[gp]
;B[fp]
;W[nj]
;B[lo]C[jackmani [4d?\]: milanmilan is a pro in china called peter
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;W[mp]
;B[kp]
;W[ko]
;B[kq]
;W[ln]C[iceweasel [-\]: l6 possible?
mw0x2a [2k?\]: w had an easy win? when?
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;B[nk]
;W[jo]
;B[lk]
;W[np]
;B[nh]
;W[pj]
;B[ok]
;W[nq]
;B[nr]
;W[jq]
;B[lr]C[USGO2 [-\]: Shirley Lin is looking over the board at the moment.
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;W[kj]
;B[li]
;W[cp]C[USGO2 [-\]: Curtis at 40 minutes,, Andy at 1 hour, 13 minutes
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;B[el]
;W[fm]
;B[cn]C[USGO2 [-\]: Andy is shaking his head
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis stratches his head in response.
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;W[dm]C[LeoMar [3k\]: lol
USGO2 [-\]: observers are starting to show up, as the games in the main playing room are coming to their conclusions.
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;B[qn]
;W[rn]
;B[ql]
;W[rl]
;B[fb]
;W[ea]
;B[co]
;W[do]
;B[bp]
;W[bm]
;B[bo]
;W[cm]
;B[hl]
;W[bh]
;B[ch]
;W[bg]
;B[be]
;W[al]
;B[af]
;W[ak]
;B[ag]
;W[hm]
;B[im]
;W[hn]
;B[hk]C[USGO2 [-\]: Wall of observers by the table -- making it quite difficult for players to leave the table...and return to the table.
USGO2 [-\]: Yilun Yang is back, looking intently on the game.
USGO2 [-\]: excuse me, Yulin Yang
Sheriffi [-\]: It's Yilun
ThiGar [3k\]: In his comments, Yilun Yang was quite severe with Andy's play in yesterday's  2nd round.
USGO2 [-\]: hmmm then his badge is wrong?  maybe I need new glasses.
stoneater [2k\]: white go J10
USGO2 [-\]: Andy's at 1 hour, 6 minutes.  Curtis probably at 30 minutes...will find out soon enough
Gerbiili [2d\]: white has no territory
pollybis [3d\]: w right side not enough to win game
stoneater [2k\]: white J10
USGO2 [-\]: Andy just checked time -- I guessed it exactly right.
arunasr [?\]: SE says B + 4.5
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis is leaning over the board, hand on his chin, distracted time to time by the bustle in the room as people finish their games.
stoneater [2k\]: w J10, b F8,  w E7, b G8, w K8
mw0x2a [2k?\]: the pace of this game really took off
USGO2 [-\]: Gansheng shi checks on the game.  Andy just peeked in from behind Curtis.
USGO2 [-\]: now Andy is seated
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis wants to play J10, but stopped himself few times already.
Gerbiili [2d\]: j10 f8 
stoneater [2k\]: b F8, w E7
Gerbiili [2d\]: e7? the upper group is definetly dead then
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis now at 23 minutes...thinking on this move for a while.
Newax [1d\]: j10
stoneater [2k\]: of course, if b G8, then w K8
]
;W[ik]C[Huldioho [10k\]: j9 :P
ThiGar [3k\]: k9
]
;B[ij]
;W[ii]C[Newax [1d\]: does nor work well for w
Newax [1d\]: leaves 2 cuts
]
;B[jj]C[USGO2 [-\]: Going by Curtis's face...he certainly didn't expect K10
Dupaaxe [?\]: :O
mw0x2a [2k?\]: curtis: O,O
jtscarry [3k\]: surprise or fear?
mw0x2a [2k?\]: fearful surprise
Newax [1d\]: cut at h11 and at f8
]
;W[gk]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: complicated yose
]
;B[gl]
;W[fl]C[test11: g10 ?
]
;B[jk]
;W[hi]
;B[jh]C[blackness2 [2d\]: feels like b got the better of the play in the middle
mw0x2a [2k?\]: if a game ever goes to yose, just turn on a bot and let it finish the game for you
]
;W[ji]
;B[ki]
;W[lm]
;B[ll]
;W[in]
;B[jm]
;W[gq]
;B[gr]
;W[hr]
;B[fr]
;W[rq]
;B[se]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: what happen
Cassis0 [5d\]: strange
]
;W[qc]
;B[rc]C[test11: is corner alive?
]
;W[ra]
;B[pf]
;W[qf]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: yose
]
;B[of]
;W[qg]C[Newax [1d\]: j2
arunasr [?\]: What did B get from this sequence?
]
;B[oq]C[Wasp [-\]: he reduced w's points
]
;W[dq]
;B[br]C[Wasp [-\]: by making him play extra move inside
]
;W[lc]
;B[kd]
;W[ih]
;B[ig]
;W[hg]
;B[if]C[Fearless [5d\]: s2 
]
;W[rr]
;B[jr]
;W[ir]
;B[js]C[arunasr [?\]: Seems to me B gains more by playing S2 ratrher than T15??
Newax [1d\]: b + 12
]
;W[nm]C[Meepy [-\]: w+2
]
;B[om]
;W[on]
;B[go]
;W[ho]
;B[ba]
;W[ca]
;B[ab]
;W[ac]C[Dupaaxe [?\]: b82 w64 no komi
grumpyjoe [-\]: +2 looks right
mw0x2a [2k?\]: b+2.5
]
;B[nn]C[Fearless [5d\]: close game
]
;W[no]
;B[mm]
;W[mn]
;B[ml]
;W[md]
;B[me]
;W[eq]
;B[er]C[arunasr [?\]: How much is B connect under with H1 worth?  W cannot block at J1.
]
;W[rs]
;B[fa]
;W[bb]
;B[ad]
;W[aa]C[pettorres [2k\]: isn`t it over for white alread?
pettorres [2k\]: ops for black
]
;B[nd]
;W[nc]
;B[ld]
;W[mc]
;B[en]C[edo2 [4k\]: i do not understand why w did not r1...
]
;W[em]
;B[pk]
;W[pn]
;B[pm]C[edo2 [4k\]: instead s1
Fearless [5d\]: no difference ı think
jenny [8k\]: b wins right?
]
;W[ka]C[edo2 [4k\]: difference is 1 point
]
;B[ja]
;W[qs]
;B[ps]C[Fearless [5d\]: :)
]
;W[hs]
;B[qo]
;W[qp]
;B[gs]C[pettorres [2k\]: B+2,5 i guess
test11: b r10  ?
]
;W[ao]
;B[an]C[pettorres [2k\]: nothing
pettorres [2k\]: r10 nothing
ThiGar [3k\]: r10 nothing?
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis slaps the table in response to A6
pettorres [2k\]: just threats
Wasp [-\]: ... people that keep asking who is winning.... why not just count the board?
blackness2 [2d\]: well
USGO2 [-\]: Andy shaking his head
edo2 [4k\]: a7
]
;W[bn]
;B[ap]
;W[aj]
;B[ah]
;W[op]
;B[ai]
;W[am]
;B[ff]
;W[fh]
;B[ao]
;W[fn]
;B[eo]
;W[gm]
;B[il]
;W[kn]
;B[nl]C[USGO2 [-\]: so fast now
edo2 [4k\]: b looks bigger than a few points
Demiurg [3k\]: b+3,5
blackness2 [2d\]: i still don't know how andy wins these games
]
;W[hq]
;B[nn]
;W[kh]
;B[jg]
;W[nm]
;B[qj]
;W[rk]
;B[nn]C[Wasp [-\]: b 74 w 71
Wasp [-\]: on the board
]
;W[ms]C[Wasp [-\]: actually, plus 10 for b
pettorres [2k\]: when the top right conner was taken a thought it was over alread =P
]
;B[ns]C[Wasp [-\]: so b 84, w 71
]
;W[nm]
;B[rg]
;W[ri]
;B[nn]
;W[or]
;B[os]
;W[nm]
;B[hf]
;W[hh]C[Wasp [-\]: is there komi?
]
;B[nn]
;W[hb]
;B[ge]C[blurb1: 7,5
]
;W[nm]
;B[og]
;W[rj]
;B[nn]C[Demiurg [3k\]: 7,5? then b+2,5
]
;W[bq]
;B[aq]
;W[nm]
;B[rf]
;W[qh]
;B[nn]
;W[ar]
;B[as]
;W[nm]
;B[sb]
;W[qc]
;B[nn]C[kokoasa: b1
blackness2 [2d\]: c2
edo2 [4k\]: how is possible that they remove stones so fast ?
kokoasa: n2
grumpyjoe [-\]: why did this ko start?
edo2 [4k\]: 4fun
grumpyjoe [-\]: ah
jtscarry [3k\]: did W play h3 instead of connecting the ko?
USGO2 [-\]: because in area counting, dame counts for something
]
;W[bs]
;B[cs]
;W[nm]C[jtscarry [3k\]: oh, right
]
;B[qb]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: oh aga
]
;W[qa]
;B[nn]
;W[dh]
;B[nm]
;W[is]
;B[jn]
;W[gn]
;B[ep]
;W[]
;B[]TW[ba][da][la][ma][na][pa][sa][ab][mb][qb][sb][pc][qc][rc][sc][pd][qd][rd][sd][se][rf][sf][rg][sg][rh][sh][gi][qi][si][fj][gj][qj][sj][fk][sk][el][sl][sm][sn][io][lo][mo][oo][so][hp][ip][rp][sp][iq][sq][sr][ss]TB[ga][ha][ia][gb][hb][ic][jc][dd][ed][gd][hd][id][ae][ee][je][ke][bf][cf][ef][jf][kf][lf][mf][nf][bg][kg][lg][mg][bh][kh][lh][mh][mi][ni][kj][lj][mj][nj][ik][kk][mk][jl][kl][pl][bq][ar][cr][kr][mr][or][bs][ds][es][fs][ks][ls][ms]C[USGO2 [-\]: counting now
USGO2 [-\]: Andy wins by 6.5
Koyou [-\]: hm...
USGO2 [-\]: Thank you for watching.  Tomorrow will be an off day, so no game tomorrow.  I believe that there is another round of NAIM tonight.
Koyou [-\]: thanks usgo2
])
