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RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[2011 North American Masters - Round 4 Board 2 - Zhaonian Chen 7d vs Mingjiu Jiang 7p]PW[Zhaonian Chen]PB[Mingjiu Jiang]WR[7d]BR[7p]DT[2011-08-06]EV[US Go Congress]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Burg]C[USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the AGA E-Journal's live coverage of the 2011 North American Masters tournament at the US Go Congress in Santa Barbara, CA.  This is the fourth and final round, board 2.  I'm Chris Burg, your game recorder this evening.
KyrieSwagg [-\]: #Team zchen !
ljklj: this should be a good game.
cherisse [?\]: go mingjiu!
base [-\]: is there any live stream of this?
TeamLeader [2d?\]: I wonder if white will play with his usual blitz style O_O, I hope not.
USGO2 [-\]: If there is a live stream, it will likely be on the actual commentary later.
dasdas: isnt 7dan vs 7p unballaned?
dasdas: unballanced*
USGO2 [-\]: The camera is no longer in here.
base [-\]: Ok, thank you 
USGO2 [-\]: Both players have arrived now.
USGO2 [-\]: While we wait for the games to begin, Zhaonian's AGA player card can be found at http://agagd.usgo.org/Player_Card.php?&key=11331
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu's player card can be found at http://agagd.usgo.org/Player_Card.php?&key=10298
vegmandu [3d\]: Go zchen.
Damaging [10k\]: is that prodan?
Damaging [10k\]: for both?
Koffein [-\]: d = amateur, p = pro
KGSisKGS: Go Zchen!
Gosu [-\]: where is the tournament bracket?
USGO2 [-\]: A crowd has gathered nearby as the players on board 1 sign the back of their board before the final match.
USGO2 [-\]: The North American Masters crosstab can be found at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/112
Koffein [-\]: chris, can you broadcast all 4 games pls? you are definitely the best scribe here ;-)
USGO2 [-\]: Games are beginning.  Zhaonian starts the clock.
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[dp]C[teenkyu [6k\]: is tehre
teenkyu [6k\]:  a live stream?
teenkyu [6k\]: usgo2
teenkyu [6k\]: live stream?
Koffein [-\]: USGO2 [-\]: If there is a live stream, it will likely be on the actual commentary later.
Koffein [-\]: USGO2 [-\]: The camera is no longer in here.
]
;W[pp]C[hamsturinn [14k\]: lol koffein ?
hamsturinn [14k\]: ohh yea nvm
hamsturinn [14k\]: reapeting
]
;B[cd]
;W[pc]
;B[ec]C[teenkyu [6k\]: e17?
]
;W[cn]C[teenkyu [6k\]: RAWr
teenkyu [6k\]: called it
teenkyu [6k\]: wow zchen is opening fast.
teenkyu [6k\]: must be all the blitz he plays
teenkyu [6k\]: kee
]
;B[fq]C[Mongoose11 [8k\]: gotta love a game where a commentator is needed for the watchers to make any sense of the game
]
;W[bp]C[Koffein [-\]: fast? standard so far ..
teenkyu [6k\]: v9
Koffein [-\]: c7 
teenkyu [6k\]: c8
Koffein [-\]: c7 d7 c8 d6 is modern
teenkyu [6k\]: c7 is to aggressive
teenkyu [6k\]: =D
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu's move placement is slow and purposeful.  He takes a moment to steady each stone before releasing it.
]
;B[cl]C[teenkyu [6k\]: as his age
teenkyu [6k\]: OH
cloudo [1k\]: haha
teenkyu [6k\]: WHAT NOW KOFFEIN
Koffein [-\]: hmm
teenkyu [6k\]: :D
]
;W[cq]C[Koffein [-\]: mingjiu is too old ;-)
]
;B[dn]C[teenkyu [6k\]: agreed
teenkyu [6k\]: he uses a like 2004
teenkyu [6k\]: laptop
teenkyu [6k\]: he's teached me before in person
teenkyu [6k\]: and that thing is OLD
SSBMeta [11k\]: taught
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian stands up after his last move and observes board 1.
teenkyu [6k\]: don't even talk about his desktop
USGO2 [-\]: He retakes his seat and plays
Koffein [-\]: c5 d7 joseki
]
;W[co]
;B[dm]C[Hard2Kill [1d\]: has zchen lost a game yet in this NAMT?
]
;W[qe]C[teenkyu [6k\]: black tengen?
teenkyu [6k\]: or o3?
teenkyu [6k\]: k17?
ToStrong4u [1k\]: i think they said the players on the usgo1 are the only two undefeated
]
;B[kd]C[QualityDr [10k?\]: Yes
Hard2Kill [1d\]: ty
ToStrong4u [1k\]: np
QualityDr [10k?\]: zchen lost yesterday, I believe.
Illyria [?\]: that's how the tournament has to work; there will be one player left undefeated at the end
teenkyu [6k\]: white should invade
teenkyu [6k\]: early.
ToStrong4u [1k\]: who did mingjiu lose to?
teenkyu [6k\]: blacks influence is huge
USGO2 [-\]: ZI Yang Hu 1p defeated Zhaonian in round 2.
]
;W[mc]C[iTengen [2k\]: wow
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis Tang defeated Mingjiu last night.
teenkyu [6k\]: doesn't this help black?
iTengen [2k\]: W loves his territory
xDragon [-\]: Who is playing here
teenkyu [6k\]: look at the time
teenkyu [6k\]: the names
teenkyu [6k\]: lol..
xDragon [-\]: I'm on the phone
teenkyu [6k\]: zchen fromkgs
cloudo [1k\]: come down allready...
teenkyu [6k\]: versus mingjiu
humanoid [5k\]: hang up the game is ON
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian once again stands up from the board and examines nearby games as he heads over to the beverage table.
iTengen [2k\]: ZChen is crazy?
]
;B[qc]C[xDragon [-\]: They don't show up on phone
teenkyu [6k\]: ouch
cloudo [1k\]: zchen vs mingjiu jiang
iTengen [2k\]: UGO2, Zhaonian is the family name, right?
]
;W[pd]C[xDragon [-\]: Zchen white?
]
;B[lc]C[cloudo [1k\]: yes
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian has played against Mingjiu twice before in AGA tournament games.  Mingjiu won both games.
Boardwalk [3d\]: poor 7d
Boardwalk [3d\]: but he rocks ;)
Boardwalk [3d\]: go zchen!
]
;W[ce]C[USGO2 [-\]: I believe his family name is Chen.
cloudo [1k\]: what fancy name zhaonian is...
Dai10 [9k\]: GO ZCHEN!
USGO2 [-\]: He also goes by Michael.
atiyah [1k\]: is there somewhere i can look at results of the tourney so far?
humanoid [5k\]: not quite so fancy...michael
atiyah [1k\]: he used to go by darkmage back in the day...
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian once more leaves to examine board 1, pausing so someone can take a picture.
USGO2 [-\]: Game results and records can be found on the crosstab at http://usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/112
humanoid [5k\]: seems like he got ADD huh
atiyah [1k\]: thanks!
]
;B[de]C[hamsturinn [14k\]: you mean adhd ?
humanoid [5k\]: either one
hamsturinn [14k\]: lol
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian retakes his seat.
]
;W[cf]
;B[bd]
;W[eg]
;B[nq]C[dasdas: black looks insanely better
Boardwalk [3d\]: i agree
]
;W[ee]C[Boardwalk [3d\]: w can already hope to resign
QualityDr [10k?\]: USGO10 announced he will be starting his commentary Real Soon Now.
cloudo [1k\]: :( i can not see why this is better for b
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian manipulates a small handful of stones in his lap.
]
;B[df]
;W[dg]
;B[ef]
;W[ff]
;B[dd]C[Koffein [-\]: d14 feels so wrong
Koffein [-\]: now white has even more kikashi stones
]
;W[fg]C[hamsturinn [14k\]: manipulates :D
ManOfLOL [5k\]: :DDD
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian once more treks to board 1 for an update.
atiyah [1k\]: b is thick, w is pretty heavy and without a base
USGO2 [-\]: He quickly moves on to board 3 as he exits the room.
Koffein [-\]: o3 was weird .. the shape move for black was e15, then w c11 .. later black can attack by playing d12 
hamsturinn [14k\]: black can do f15 ?
ljklj: lol white cares more about other games.
Dai10 [9k\]: too small
atiyah [1k\]: f15 helps w
]
;B[mb]C[teenkyu [6k\]: q6
ricedragon [2k\]: r6?
teenkyu [6k\]: q6 seems a little bit better
USGO2 [-\]: Small streams of setting sunlight sneak through the curtains and streak across the board.
atiyah [1k\]: with r15 in place, r6 makes more sense to me
Boardwalk [3d\]: chris, do you have any haiku for us?
charkysan [9k?\]: USGO2 is a poet
Koffein [-\]: r6 is playing against your own stones .. black wants a moyo at the bottom
TheHood [2k\]: alliteration there
cloudo [1k\]: some professional trolling :P
ManOfLOL [5k\]: usgo2 are you chris hayashida?
atiyah [1k\]: b is to thin to get big on the bottom
Boardwalk [3d\]: usgo2 is chris burg
ManOfLOL [5k\]: who's chris burg?
Boardwalk [3d\]: usgo2
DexMorgan [6d\]: bs sequence here is nice
DexMorgan [6d\]: very good timing
DexMorgan [6d\]: if white now plays o167, the exchange for r17 was very good
DexMorgan [6d\]: as black r13 activates corner aji
DexMorgan [6d\]: fighting spirit says ignore n18
LR: o3 biggest move on board
DexMorgan [6d\]: q6
SSBMeta [11k\]: and w ignored it
LR: b e15 would give w an extension on the side, weakens c8 b group
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu rests his head sideways on a hand and closes his eyes.  He periodically opens them to examine the board before closing them again.
fake [4k\]: zchen is still gone?
USGO2 [-\]: Yes.
cloudo [1k\]: that would freak me out
humanoid [5k\]: is this game live? 
dasdas: yes
humanoid [5k\]: or I should say streaming video live...
dasdas: W is very fragile, black is very strong
Boardwalk [3d\]: w is just inefficient
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian returns, again pausing out of camera-shot of an observer.
LR: w q6, b L4, w q2, bo17?
Mongoose11 [8k\]: fair to say, w small cash lead, b large influence lead?
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian has 1 hour and 12 minutes of main time remaining after his absence.  Mingjiu has 1 hour and 19 minutes.
Boardwalk [3d\]: b o17 doesn't make any sense
]
;W[kp]C[LR: b o17 huge move, leaving r17 live on corner later
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian once more leaves the board.
ricedragon [2k\]: who's the favorite?
Hollumber [1k\]: what did chen go do?
USGO2 [-\]: He took a quick look at both adjacent boards before returning to his seat.
]
;B[dr]C[Nano [1k\]: I like these details
Hollumber [1k\]: but, before, he left the room; was it something sketchy?
LR: I think Mingju is gonna choose a simple joseki here
cloudo [1k\]: why are the other games so interesting for him?
humanoid [5k\]: he's a GO addict
Hollumber [1k\]: zchen thinks this one's already decided, so he'll wandle his way through it
ricedragon [2k\]: this is far from decided
cloudo [1k\]: then he should resign
hamsturinn [14k\]: does he think he will win or lose?
atiyah [1k\]: if it's already decided, it's probably not in his favor
cloudo [1k\]: if he thinks so
LR: L4 strong move
USGO2 [-\]: The video feed should be live now.  It is covering the commentary of board 1 and can be found at http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
]
;W[dq]
;B[eq]C[hamsturinn [14k\]: will they go to board 2 ?
]
;W[oq]C[Hollumber [1k\]: yes, in a bit
]
;B[np]
;W[pn]
;B[cr]C[LR: mingjiu style is solid and slow
]
;W[br]
;B[bs]C[Hollumber [1k\]: hmm, i like mingjiu's style
]
;W[do]
;B[eo]C[bloodninja [?\]: you must be an exciting person
]
;W[ar]C[hamsturinn [14k\]: i would prefer black in this situation
Hollumber [1k\]: was taht sarcasm?
hamsturinn [14k\]: tough i am only 14 k :D
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu quietly rummages through his stones before playing.
hamsturinn [14k\]: though *
]
;B[iq]C[ricedragon [2k\]: Hollumber, isn't it still close?
LR: mingjiu very conscious of territory
Hollumber [1k\]: isn't what still close?
hamsturinn [14k\]: the game ?
Hollumber [1k\]: sure, i would assume so
Hollumber [1k\]: oh, i was responding to bloodninja, saying i was exciting ^^
hamsturinn [14k\]: ohhh
]
;W[jq]C[Hollumber [1k\]: hmm, black can't really teuji this, can he?
USGO2 [-\]: K3 knocks J3 away slightly.  Zhaonian quickly replaces it in its original position.
Hollumber [1k\]: *tenuki
hamsturinn [14k\]: lol =)
ricedragon [2k\]: i don't think so
hamsturinn [14k\]: cool details
ricedragon [2k\]: unless it's in sentei
Hollumber [1k\]: go stones are so troublesome, and endgame is a pain in the neck
LR: b needs to drive w to strong side, so ignore here and go n6?
]
;B[ip]C[Hollumber [1k\]: yes, LR, that's what i was thinking
hamsturinn [14k\]: i havent played on a go board yet :'(
]
;W[mo]C[Hollumber [1k\]: but white j4 makes him way too strong
Hollumber [1k\]: i suppose leave that as aji?
ricedragon [2k\]: probably
Hollumber [1k\]: does r3 work?
Hollumber [1k\]: hmm, i would think so
cloudo [1k\]: for what?
]
;B[lq]C[Hollumber [1k\]: corner is more open now
ricedragon [2k\]: can black escape?
Hollumber [1k\]: r3 can steal the corner later, i believe
Hollumber [1k\]: unless, thsi is actually gonna work
Hollumber [1k\]: hmm, l3 n2?
hamsturinn [14k\]: r3 works
hamsturinn [14k\]: but really small territory
cloudo [1k\]: works for what?
alexf [2k?\]: r3 would be a tradeoff. easily live in the corner in exchange for those 3 bk stones
Hollumber [1k\]: lives
sevigny [6k?\]: yeah, n5 made me twitch
Hollumber [1k\]: right, yes, but i was thinking black would leave those stones
cloudo [1k\]: that would be a bad trade
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis Tang briefly stops by to check out the game during a break from board 1.
Hollumber [1k\]: yes, now it would
alexf [2k?\]: bad trade right now? yes
Hollumber [1k\]: but, later on, if those stones remained dead, white might have to go back and save the corner
ricedragon [2k\]: l2?
Hollumber [1k\]: hmm, l3 seems like only move
hamsturinn [14k\]: black little groub looks dead ?
Hollumber [1k\]: l2 m4 m5 l5 k5 k4 
ricedragon [2k\]: oh, thx for the clarification
Mongoose11 [8k\]: hamsturinn, he can certainly cut his way out and make a messy fight, and possibly live underneath if necessary
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: b is not in danger of dying here
cloudo [1k\]: whats wrong with k2?
hamsturinn [14k\]: well looks like white will gain so much out of it ?
]
;W[lp]C[cloudo [1k\]: pain
hamsturinn [14k\]: now m2 is a threat ?
Hollumber [1k\]: well then, i think i would have let those stones stay there
LR: r3?
Hollumber [1k\]: later, black can take the corner
sevigny [6k?\]: how to gain sente?
Hollumber [1k\]: black can't gain sente, as far as i can see
Hollumber [1k\]: invasions should end in gote
Boardwalk [3d\]: not unless he strangely tenukis
whuang [2k\]: HOLY COW
cloudo [1k\]: it was whites invasion :3
Boardwalk [3d\]: only in india
whuang [2k\]: Zchen vs. Jiang Mingjiu
ricedragon [2k\]: is k2 the only move?
Hollumber [1k\]: cloudo, it was a fight, not an invasion
]
;B[no]C[ricedragon [2k\]: nvm, wow
Hollumber [1k\]: but, since black was a move behind, it's basically black's invasion
LR: b wants to create cutting points before connecting underneath
]
;W[nn]
;B[mn]C[cloudo [1k\]: but just because of that u cant say b cant get sente
]
;W[nm]
;B[mp]C[Hollumber [1k\]: yes, but i'm saying black *shouldn'* get sente
LR: b trying to get sente
Hollumber [1k\]: since he's a move behind
]
;W[lo]
;B[kq]
;W[jp]C[LeeSeTroll [3d\]: why should that mean he cant get sente
]
;B[jr]
;W[ir]C[LR: b a success
]
;B[kr]C[Hollumber [1k\]: >.>    i'm not saying he "can't"   i'm saying he "shouldn't"
Hollumber [1k\]: go is about trading
Hollumber [1k\]: u trade sente for profit or power
blob [5k\]: and phyrric victories..
sevigny [6k?\]: ph33r
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: b gave up sente with d2, so maybe he should get sente back here
]
;W[lm]C[Hollumber [1k\]: i don't really understand the concept of pyrrhic victory in go
LR: b really very into territory
goahead [?\]: r10
Hollumber [1k\]: oh, actually, i do, nvm
cloudo [1k\]: i do not even understand the word
Hollumber [1k\]: it means a costly victory
Hollumber [1k\]: a *very* costly victory
iTengen [2k\]: it's derived from a proper noun, that's why
Hollumber [1k\]: in go, it can be compared to killing a large chunk of stones
iTengen [2k\]: it refers to a battle won in ancient europe
cloudo [1k\]: ah
Hollumber [1k\]: but, your opponent completely surrounding your group
]
;B[pi]C[iTengen [2k\]: which was so expensive to win that the victor lost the war because of it
cloudo [1k\]: thats the most fun :D
LR: this game totally dictated by b 
Hollumber [1k\]: 18 point joseki trick play would be an example
iTengen [2k\]: see also: pride comes before a fall
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian stands to leave just as Mingjiu plays.  He turns around to view the move before exiting the room.
iTengen [2k\]: tsk
sevigny [6k?\]: heh
atiyah [1k\]: i would probably exit the room after q11 too
alexf [2k?\]: Pyrrhic victory is named after King Pyrrhus of Epirus who won a costly victory
alexf [2k?\]: against Rome in 280 BC'
sevigny [6k?\]: he must have known that q10 fun was coming
cloudo [1k\]: i dont like this running around 
LR: b controls the tempo
Mongoose11 [8k\]: SE says z is winning :D
atiyah [1k\]: anyone have any ideas how to use the f13 stones efficiently
atiyah [1k\]: they just seem like a liability at this point
iTengen [2k\]: somehow teach them to resign for you?
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu rocks slowly back and forth in his chair with hands behind his head as he considers the position.
neck [3d\]: lol sounds pretty relaxed
iTengen [2k\]: what a sight
Hollumber [1k\]: f13 is a mix b.t strong and light group
iTengen [2k\]: does he have his shoes off? hehe
Hollumber [1k\]: it's there simply to destroy territory
neck [3d\]: are his legs crossed on the table?
atiyah [1k\]: how do you know he's not considering the european debt crisis?
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian once more retakes his seat.
LR: b unlikely under severe attack here
]
;W[nr]C[atiyah [1k\]: is this even sente?
LR: good question
ricedragon [2k\]: ...i'm confused now
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian nods out moves as he reads.
Hollumber [1k\]: i don't think so
ricedragon [2k\]: does anyone have an explanation?
]
;B[ql]
;W[mr]C[LR: ya!
]
;B[jo]
;W[mm]C[iTengen [2k\]: woahwoah
Hollumber [1k\]: it has follow up, and white will profit
cloudo [1k\]: fast
iTengen [2k\]: somebody did some reading!
LR: s6
Hollumber [1k\]: well, the last two moves...weren't really hard to read?
atiyah [1k\]: if b connects and w plays h2 it's still 5 liberties to 4... i don't see what w is getting at
Hollumber [1k\]: hmm, i think chen is going out to doodle on a pad while he thinks of his next move
neck [3d\]: its not his turn tho...
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu leans in close for a better look at the situation (this game is being recorded from Zhaonian's perspective).
Chadzy [6k\]: black could L6 then K8
]
;B[rn]
;W[hr]C[cloudo [1k\]: very nice call LR
Kanin [-\]: w looking good here
atiyah [1k\]: i disagree
]
;B[gr]
;W[hq]C[iTengen [2k\]: you may well
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian stands up just as Mingjius plays.  He plays his response from a standing position before checking out board 1.
]
;B[hp]C[iTengen [2k\]: but you won't feel too good about it when b resign
rmod [2k?\]: n3 time
]
;W[gq]C[dasdas: theres no chance that b will lose
atiyah [1k\]: not enough liberties yet..
Kanin [-\]: I can imagine B taking it home in the endgame though
atiyah [1k\]: yeah all big endgame is b's
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: lol e4 sente on the corner
atiyah [1k\]: and f3 has to try to live in a way that does not embarrass zchen's ancestors
atiyah [1k\]: ... with black likely getting the first move
Boardwalk [3d\]: so b takes the left?
neck [3d\]: f3 try to live? its w trying to live, not b
iTengen [2k\]: why did 7p ignore the maxim "urgent before big"?
Kanin [-\]: looks like there's going to be a trade
goahead [?\]: b just f2
atiyah [1k\]: *f13
phoedran [10k\]: f2 g4 g5 h5 j5 f4 e4 f5?
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian again watches board 1 with interest.
Hollumber [1k\]: itengen, rules are meant to be broken
Hollumber [1k\]: ^^
dasdas: no they arent 0.o
neck [3d\]: cuz the 7p didnt consider this urgent and that s6 was bigger
cloudo [1k\]: he should really focus his intrest on this board :(
Hollumber [1k\]: lol, leesedoll, i understand your name now ^^
iooyjj: who is winning?
dasdas: B
USGO2 [-\]: He then takes an opportunity to look at his game from behind Mingjiu.
Koffein [-\]: "big before urgent" is typical mingjiu style ..
LR: b j2 should just do it?
]
;B[kn]
;W[ln]
;B[fr]
;W[gp]
;B[go]C[iooyjj: is this game over?
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu notices Zhaonian standing over his shoulder as he plays L6. 
Hollumber [1k\]: probably
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: zchen has to resign if this fails
LR: w digging its nose in sewage 
Hollumber [1k\]: chen has spent too many moves on the bottom
iooyjj: he is zchen?
Boardwalk [3d\]: this works... but b kills w's left group
neck [3d\]: dont go players usually... sit accross from each other?
TeamLeader [2d?\]: Wait so Zchen is reaching over Mingjiu?
USGO2 [-\]: No he reseated himself after L6.
Hollumber [1k\]: ><
iooyjj: he is zchen the player?
Hollumber [1k\]: lol
Hollumber [1k\]: yes, iooyjj
bloodninja [?\]: dont see this working for w at all
LR: game over
Hollumber [1k\]: i don't htink anyone else does, either
iooyjj: he resigned
iooyjj: ?
bloodninja [?\]: thanks dawg
USGO2 [-\]: No.
Hollumber [1k\]: iooyjj...just listen to USGO
Hard2Kill [1d\]: don't listen to anyone on kgs ioo
Hollumber [1k\]: kibitzers don't know anything ^^ (including me)
phoedran [10k\]: h5 j5 f4 e4 f5?
Hollumber [1k\]: yeah, phoedran, maybe white could try to sack the bottom left corner
cloudo [1k\]: i think there is some kibiter with us who does know exactly whats going on...
LR: white can even get out, let alone his corner is unsafe
LR: can't get out
Boardwalk [3d\]: h5 here
USGO2 [-\]: Loud coversation drifts in from outside the room as the door is opened.  It quickly fades away as it shuts again.
Hollumber [1k\]: yeah, i think h5 is a must
phoedran [10k\]: who would that be cloudo?
brookgo [9k\]: h5 j5f5g6f4
Hollumber [1k\]: h5 j5 h6 
brookgo [9k\]: done
Hollumber [1k\]: whtie would extend first, i think?
Boardwalk [3d\]: h6 is bad
Hollumber [1k\]: oh, lol, nvm
phoedran [10k\]: if w h6 then b f4
Hollumber [1k\]: i'm seeing ghosts :/
Boardwalk [3d\]: spooky
Hollumber [1k\]: right, i thought white had a stone at l5
Koffein [-\]: j5 h5 n3 f4 r10 
Kuwabara [2d\]: w will resign soon
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian's hands are steady, but his shirt vibrates as he breathes.
neck [3d\]: O.o
brookgo [9k\]: h5 j5 f5 g6 f4 if b f6 so e4
TeamLeader [2d?\]: Awesome commenting.
buggler [?\]: they get like aspiring poets to commentate?
cloudo [1k\]: yes, very good job, USGO2
Boardwalk [3d\]: oops
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu takes an opportunity to get up and leave the room.
leachy [3k\]: love the commentary
Boardwalk [3d\]: w is absolutely dead
Boardwalk [3d\]: no matter what
atiyah [1k\]: kind of frustrating that w cannot make more than 3 liberties
blob [5k\]: i thought 7ds could look ahead further than this :v
Hollumber [1k\]: yeah, i did too
GameFAQs [4d\]: dude
dasdas: 7p man
GameFAQs [4d\]: h2 is okay as a sacrifice
davideo [3k\]: n3
buggler [?\]: f5
davideo [3k\]: is the only move really
GameFAQs [4d\]: the stones white added are in black territory anyway
neck [3d\]: but b got s6 free
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian briefly shakes his head and laughs quietly to himself.
Hollumber [1k\]: right, game, but black got free moves on the right
jezork [3d\]: he can take n3 in sente and... kill... let's say... l16
iooyjj: laughs quietly 
iooyjj: lol
Kanin [-\]: almost poetic
leachy [3k\]: h2 never looked like living but white simply gave black a couple more stones on the outside
cloudo [1k\]: u mean loq
]
;W[qj]C[geyingbin [1d\]: 7p might be stronger than 7d
neck [3d\]: he probably didnt expect b l6
atiyah [1k\]: n3 is far smaller than r8 and s6
davideo [3k\]: f5 works too .....
davideo [3k\]: im a bit confused
neck [3d\]: it just doesnt work
atiyah [1k\]: f5 g6
neck [3d\]: confusion cleared
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: w needs to get out or make a liberty
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: and he cant
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu reenters the room, but first makes a stop at the beverage table for, presumably, more tea.
Kuwabara [2d\]: obvious trolling
brookgo [9k\]: where am i wrong?
davideo [3k\]: oic
Hollumber [1k\]: mingjiu getting rice krispy treat at beverage table
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian stands up and moves to board 3 as Mingjiu takes his seat.  He briefly returns to point out his move.
]
;B[rp]C[iooyjj: i like S4
Kanin [-\]: I feel about as stupid as zchen must've felt for not reading out that sequence properly
USGO2 [-\]: After S4 both players are once again seated together.
leachy [3k\]: safe move 
GameFAQs [4d\]: to point out his move? really?
Kanin [-\]: it's not a difficult read
buggler [?\]: so what after f5 g6 f4 ?
]
;W[mq]C[GameFAQs [4d\]: is that like.. chinese culture? >_>
cloudo [1k\]: they are moving more around than at a blitz date
]
;B[fp]C[LeeSeTroll [3d\]: buggler, b just plays e4
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: w cant get out
Kanin [-\]: buggler, at that time B connects at E4
USGO2 [-\]: Most players will point out a move played in the absence of their opponent.
buggler [?\]: then f6 for w
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: b f7
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu thus far has not done so, however.
buggler [?\]: then h5
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: connect
buggler [?\]: h6 atari
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: connect
buggler [?\]: j6
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: k6
buggler [?\]: ah
buggler [?\]: heh
leachy [3k\]: white doesn't even get the g6 clamp as compensation
Mongoose11 [8k\]: q10?
buggler [?\]: this k6 move i couldnt read far enough ;(
iooyjj: r11[
brookgo [9k\]: i wasn t wrong
brookgo [9k\]: zchen is silly
lecher: 9k always wrong
LR: s4 a surprise, but good judgement
]
;W[qk]C[brookgo [9k\]: not always
leachy [3k\]: 7p, 7d, all kibitzers wrong...
brookgo [9k\]: yes
Mdx [5k\]: black win
Boardwalk [3d\]: i am always wrong
]
;B[qq]C[Mdx [5k\]: by resign
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu steadies R3 in place for several seconds before releasing it.
cloudo [1k\]: very good comments LR, thank you
atiyah [1k\]: it's time for the upper left
atiyah [1k\]: what the crap is w supposed to do
]
;W[rm]C[atiyah [1k\]: f17 or somethign?
Hollumber [1k\]: g16
brookgo [9k\]: c10
LR: w behind, but not as much as one would think
brookgo [9k\]: m7
USGO2 [-\]: More head-shaking from Zhaonian.
Hollumber [1k\]: hmm, zhao's supposed to lose this game, anyways, right?
atiyah [1k\]: the score is irrelevant compared to the worthlessness of f13
shUdonNome [1d\]: black is alive in the corner no?
shUdonNome [1d\]: can he not just tenuki?
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu leans in for a bird's-eye view of the top right.
leachy [3k\]: nah game is easy now for black....he just has to prevent white from surrounding a large area around n11....which is easy to do.
]
;B[nc]
;W[pr]C[cloudo [1k\]: go is so easy...
shUdonNome [1d\]: dang, white is desperate
elementc [?\]: Z Cheeeeeeeeeeeen
elementc [?\]: woo woo
neck [3d\]: hes losing
leachy [3k\]: when you have a position like this, it is
blob [5k\]: zchen just sucks at tenuki :p
atiyah [1k\]: was the amount of time between o17 and q2 accurately reflected?
elementc [?\]: Mingjiu is a cool guy
elementc [?\]: I was sad to see him lose to Curtis
USGO2 [-\]: Yes.  Zhaonian played Q2 very quickly.
atiyah [1k\]: getting frustrated
Hollumber [1k\]: say, is chen his family name?
neck [3d\]: yes
Hollumber [1k\]: and same for jiang?
scwizard [8k\]: q2 seems like the right move for killing
Hollumber [1k\]: i don't think he can kill
Hollumber [1k\]: just a lot of sente forcing moves
]
;B[qr]C[neck [3d\]: given name is 2 characters(syllable) family name is 1
crew: just yose?
atiyah [1k\]: well if b is alive then s7 wasn't sente
Hollumber [1k\]: oh, wow neck, i never knew that; that's really interesting!
Hollumber [1k\]: thnx :)
cloudo [1k\]: would be kinda weak for a pro to die here,
neck [3d\]: yw
crew: not always true but mostly
elementc [?\]: it's always true with korean names though I think
elementc [?\]: that the first name is a compound
elementc [?\]: two or three syllables
Hollumber [1k\]: we should start go memes "Pro meme: Tenuki's from surrounded corner group;  lives in sente"
]
;W[ob]C[leachy [3k\]: chinese given names can be one syllable
elementc [?\]: Feng Yun
cloudo [1k\]: and for japanese names its not true
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: O?
eatramen [-\]: GOOOO ZCHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
elementc [?\]: Goooooooooooooo Mingjiu!!
Mongoose11 [8k\]: sounds like couragewolf
neck [3d\]: well my name has 3 characters but i use mine as first middle last instead of first and last only
LR: r14?
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu audibly sips from his tea.
anathema [4k\]: shluuurrrp
cloudo [1k\]: :3
neck [3d\]: audibly=res plz xD
eatramen [-\]: dat must be kind of annoying, is there a stream?
Diabolus [3k\]: s12 ? 
Hollumber [1k\]: mingjiu asking for res
LR: q14?
ricedragon [2k\]: what kind of tea?
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian finds a rogue black ston in his bowl and, glancing and the board and finding N6, places it in his lid.
cloudo [1k\]: not as annoying as wandering around all the time
Hollumber [1k\]: dang, neck beat me to it :/
anathema [4k\]: the famous tea slurping resignation call
bloodninja [?\]: could you tell us who is playing on board 3?
bloodninja [?\]: USGO2?
Hollumber [1k\]: wow, blood, after all the work he's goin for us
Hollumber [1k\]: *doin
USGO2 [-\]: Mouse over the game in the game list and it will tell you.
bloodninja [?\]: get off my back dude
Hollumber [1k\]: and so professionally at that, you are asking a favor?
elementc [?\]: why are there so many photos of Sathya
Hollumber [1k\]: tsk tsk tsk 
bloodninja [?\]: i mean board 3 in the ing
Diabolus [3k\]: q13 =D 
]
;B[qg]C[Mdx [5k\]: Almsot
USGO2 [-\]: A cell phone induces an observer's panicked flight from the room.
Diabolus [3k\]: near :(
LR: s13 shows how much mingjiu loves territory
phoedran [10k\]: love the comentary
neck [3d\]: lifetime ban from any go matches xD
Mdx [5k\]: USGO, i hope he doesn't get arrested for bomb scare
Mdx [5k\]: hahahaha
]
;W[qn]
;B[ro]
;W[sn]C[anathema [4k\]: nice that you appreciate your own jokes...
Archron [3k\]: lol
Hollumber [1k\]: the only way you can get banned for a lifetime from go matches is by committing seppuku in a tea room
Mdx [5k\]: lol, good point
LR: r1?
LR: no
neck [3d\]: the seppuku part isnt too important, if you mess with the tea in any way u get banned
Mdx [5k\]: s2/t2 works, no?
dasdas: did you know each go players carried a dagger just incase someone messes with the tea?
]
;B[rl]C[Hollumber [1k\]: i think that's what the fans are for.. >.>
]
;W[qm]C[LR: b tenuki again?
]
;B[rr]C[LR: lol
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu places S2 carefully, producing no sound as it meets its new home on the board.
]
;W[md]C[anathema [4k\]: lol
sevigny [6k?\]: ha
hamsturinn [14k\]: x
hamsturinn [14k\]: D
Mdx [5k\]: mingjiu used to be so violent
GameFAQs [4d\]: no one is gonna place s2 violently
GameFAQs [4d\]: lol
]
;B[nd]C[ManOfLOL [5k\]: chinese professionals are usually violent
]
;W[me]
;B[nb]C[atiyah [1k\]: well here's the problem
]
;W[ne]C[Mdx [5k\]: i live, in GOTE!
atiyah [1k\]: with fantastic endgame w can get 50 points
]
;B[qi]C[atiyah [1k\]: w has about 55 on the board
atiyah [1k\]: *b
neck [3d\]: b has the endgame, not w
atiyah [1k\]: this does not bode well
TeamLeader [2d?\]: I would place S2 with prideful confidence claiming to my opponent you cannot kill me even though it is a 10k problem -_-
]
;W[kb]
;B[lb]C[atiyah [1k\]: i didn't know the status of that group until like 3k
StayBrutal [?\]: ManOfLOL arnt you lim?
]
;W[kc]C[neck [3d\]: so play it while looking and smiling at your opponent and then misplacing it and committing suicide then drown your sorrow in the tea
Mdx [5k\]: pay atention to no cry into the tea...
LR: l17?  can't believe it
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu once again leans in until he is directly above the top center.
LR: k17 kills?
ManOfLOL [5k\]: what staybrutal?
neck [3d\]: really desperate now
Hollumber [1k\]: white winning more than 80, black need to res
StayBrutal [?\]: You know me lol we talk on facebook from time to time
LR: b has s15 so safe on the side
ManOfLOL [5k\]: new account?
atiyah [1k\]: this is a last ditch effort to elevate f13 above the worthless pile of stones that it currently is
StayBrutal [?\]: i forgot my old accounts password
ManOfLOL [5k\]: figures :p
StayBrutal [?\]: Do you know who i am? :p
LR: k17
ManOfLOL [5k\]: yep
LR: don't see any wrong with that move
StayBrutal [?\]: Lol nice, did you look at the info or something :p
ManOfLOL [5k\]: yep
StayBrutal [?\]: Cheater!
LR: unless mingjiu wants to raise the cattle before killing it
blob [5k\]: in that case, k16
orchid [13k?\]: someone want to come join our rengo game? it'll be fun!!! =)
ManOfLOL [5k\]: Lim can be anybody :p
StayBrutal [?\]: Lol :p
shan [3k\]: 江鸣久vs陈兆年？
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu plays a stone on the table beside the board, then places it back in his bowl.
ManOfLOL [5k\]: well buddied you :p
Mdx [5k\]: I presume there is still lot of time for both?
ManOfLOL [5k\]: of course
Hollumber [1k\]: hmm, i think when i have to resign, i'll start coming up with creative ways to resign
ManOfLOL [5k\]: they have an hour and 30 minutes
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian still has 40 minutes remaining.  I can't see Mingjiu's time from here.
Mdx [5k\]: Thank you, USGO D:
Archron [3k\]: does mingjiu have a KGS account?
Hollumber [1k\]: like picking up an opponent's stone and placing it in my bowl
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: mingjiu
Archron [3k\]: or should i say, a KGS alias
Archron [3k\]: ?
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: mingjiu
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian stands up and moves to baord 1.
maynerd [9d\]: k17 k18 ,,,h18 g17
maynerd [9d\]: w dead
Mdx [5k\]: IDK if LeeSe is Troll, or mingjiu isn't creative
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu has 41 minutes left on his clock.
shan [3k\]: is it live broadcast?
Mdx [5k\]: yes
Mongoose11 [8k\]: shan, USGO2 is in the room playing the game out for us
ZedekBlue [9k\]: Mingjiu must raise his power level to over 9000 if he wants to win...
Mdx [5k\]: Zede, you sure?
blob [5k\]: i.e., better than Zede9k?
LR: k17 kills, what's in store for w?  weird
ZedekBlue [9k\]: Nobody said my name right, just now.
ZedekBlue [9k\]: I'm sad.
LR: no way w can kill r11 group?
lecher: nobody cares about your name
Mdx [5k\]: Zedek, sorry ;p
ZedekBlue [9k\]: x3
leachy [3k\]: x3 is off the board
geyingbin [1d\]: j17
Mdx [5k\]: leachy, it is close from i20
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu places a finger across his upper lip as he reads our the situtation.
Mdx [5k\]: ( our? )
nay4ok [2k?\]: super slow
]
;B[ic]C[shan [3k\]: its midnight in ameican,why they arrange the game in midnight
Mdx [5k\]: ho
]
;W[oj]C[geyingbin [1d\]: 9pm in CA
QualityDr [10k?\]: Not that late on West coast, shan
USGO2 [-\]: It is currently just before 9pm local time.
Mdx [5k\]: CA just dont care about the east coast, it seems lol
LR: s15
shan [3k\]: thx,i see
elementc [?\]: still kind of dumb to have it this late
Mongoose11 [8k\]: CA likes its late nights
humanoid [5k\]: It's only 8:53pm here in Oregon
humanoid [5k\]: we are even earlier than CA
]
;B[nh]C[ygz5001 [5k\]: when is the usgo final?
KGSisKGS: lol.... oregon and cali are in the same time zone...
BigDoug [-\]: please keep the comments about the game
USGO2 [-\]: This is the final match for the North American Masters.
]
;W[rf]C[eatramen [-\]: wow this game is ruined
Mdx [5k\]: why didnt he do s15?
]
;B[lh]C[Naecro [12k\]: Hi Burg
blob [5k\]: because center
Mdx [5k\]: i see ruined points on the center now
blob [5k\]: ruination is good for b
Mdx [5k\]: indeed
ILoveHer [2d\]: l 15?
]
;W[og]C[Naecro [12k\]: Chris Burg is a beast!
lance [1d\]: kill d13
iooyjj: who is winning?
eatramen [-\]: GO ZCHEN!!!!!!!!!!!! no pro too strong
dasdas: B
Shinpachi [1d\]: q10?
]
;B[pj]
;W[pk]
;B[ok]
;W[nk]
;B[ol]
;W[pl]C[LR: white colossal fail
Hollumber [1k\]: n10?
oleisman [1d\]: o10
Mdx [5k\]: s10 o.O
LR: w aiming n11?
LR: attack whole group?
Hollumber [1k\]: yeah, has to
ManOfLOL [5k\]: usgo2 id like to say great job on the game tree so far =\]
KGSisKGS: i think o10 would be b's next move
Hollumber [1k\]: white doesn't have neough power
GDR [17k\]: O10
USGO2 [-\]: The nearby bell tower tolls the hour.
Hollumber [1k\]: lol, u gonna jinx it..
]
;B[nj]C[KGSisKGS: nice :)
eatramen [-\]: what kind of bell is it?
LR: w o11, b n12
Gosu [-\]: tower bell
eatramen [-\]: a tower bell? 
eatramen [-\]: wth
LR: b has p15 cut?
ManOfLOL [5k\]: wth indeed ramen
sevigny [6k?\]: beware the crackling bell tower *duck*
Shinpachi [1d\]: l14?
shan [3k\]: 7d vs 7p? didnt take handicap?
Boardwalk [3d\]: this has looked very bleak since about move 6
eatramen [-\]: w ahead
]
;W[fc]C[blob [5k\]: riiight
Hollumber [1k\]: how will white resign?
humanoid [5k\]: he can say it out loud
humanoid [5k\]: or smash the table
]
;B[fd]C[Mdx [5k\]: or do a nuclear
Mdx [5k\]: but if he does that, he wins
LR: w treating b like an amateur
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: zchen's numerical AGA rank is 8.5
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: and mingjiu is 9.6
]
;W[gd]C[ygz5001 [5k\]: what dose that mean?
Mdx [5k\]: double rainbows
shan [3k\]: could i win jiangminjiu by 10 handicaps?
]
;B[fb]C[USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu plays F18 with a sharp clack.
blob [5k\]: on a 9x9 perhaps :p
Mongoose11 [8k\]: where would you put the tenth?
shan [3k\]: conner
Mdx [5k\]: goose: 3-3
neck [3d\]: lets just say its hard for any competent player to lose with 9 handi
]
;W[hc]C[Mdx [5k\]: neck, competent = 3k+?
shan [3k\]: 3k is strong enough
LR: mingjiu's brother jujo is very violent
BigDoug [-\]: please keep the comments only about this game
Mongoose11 [8k\]: g17, g18, ko for the win?
USGO2 [-\]: Both players mirror each other's position, resting their head on a single hand and their elbow on the table.
USGO2 [-\]: Their other hands rest in their bowls.
blob [5k\]: g15
LR: jujo nickname "fearless 3rd bro"
LR: so watch out Chen
BigDoug [-\]: LR, no more please
]
;B[jc]
;W[gb]
;B[gc]C[neck [3d\]: thats actually related to the game tho O.o describing one of the players' personality
Mdx [5k\]: ko!
Nation [4k\]: doubt it?
Hollumber [1k\]: yo, bigdoug, i think if we don't want someone talking, we'll tell you
]
;W[io]
;B[ho]
;W[fc]C[Mdx [5k\]: lol @ respect @ admin
BigDoug [-\]: I'll start booting for non-game comments going forward
Hollumber [1k\]: why?
humanoid [5k\]: don't be a bully
]
;B[kf]C[blob [5k\]: BigDoug, where would you play now?
LR: center white stones have negative points
charkysan [9k?\]: people who want to make frivolous comments during a top-level game can always use the "clone game" option and do what they want with the cloned game
shan [3k\]: agree
shan [3k\]: we are too weak to comment the game in the right way, i think ,the rank below 7d on kgs has no right comments on this game
neck [3d\]: everybody has rights to comment, its not like we're asking u to review it
eatramen [-\]: kibitz is ruined now
teenkyu [6k\]: zomg
eatramen [-\]: im out guys
teenkyu [6k\]: who's winning?
BigDoug [-\]: shan, anyone can comment on the game
neck [3d\]: mingjiu is probably
Mongoose11 [8k\]: shall we clone and misbehave?
neck [3d\]: but we would miss usgo's wonderful commentary
Mdx [5k\]: neck, the probably is troubling. Are you being safe or is the game hard to tell?
neck [3d\]: the probably means im too weak to tell but it looks that way
LR: mingjiu sometimes too patient
Mdx [5k\]: oh , i see D:
svgo [1k\]: maynerd, whose position would you pick here?
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: b
LR: solid and slow
cadillac [5d?\]: GO MINGJIU
LR: win by end game
LR: rarely win by resignation
Hollumber [1k\]: well, i don't see white getting a good place to resign, now
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: getting cut at p15 would be a good place to resign
shan [3k\]: how much is the price pay for the winner
]
;W[mi]C[Gux [?\]: oh dear!
]
;B[mh]C[Gux [?\]: 7p playin as black
USGO2 [-\]: Sorry, I don't have the prize amounts handy.
]
;W[oi]C[LR: now w has to protect p15 cut
]
;B[oh]C[svgo [1k\]: how much for the women?
]
;W[ni]
;B[gc]C[Hollumber [1k\]: hmm, that was a nice variation
Hollumber [1k\]: now, q13?
LR: well, p15 not big anymore
]
;W[id]C[Hollumber [1k\]: black has to h18?
LR: g15, mingjiu
svgo [1k\]: M2 seemed big as a threat
]
;B[jd]
;W[fc]C[Hollumber [1k\]: 24 points, for m2, i think
Mdx [5k\]: and the ko?
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: its more like 20
]
;B[oe]C[Hollumber [1k\]: add in the j6 move
]
;W[ri]C[LR: unblievable
LR: giving up center stones?
shan [3k\]: chen zhao nian has great disparity to jiang mingjiu ,right?
]
;B[pg]C[LR: why?
shan [3k\]: from the rank
LR: all of a sudden b is on top again
]
;W[rg]
;B[gc]
;W[fe]C[Gf4: w+ right side huge
shili [2d\]: maybe no good moves for white on the right-up corner...
ajaxswan [12k\]: c13 will kill white
]
;B[fc]C[shili [2d\]: white just give up center stones, but connnected two groups.
LR: center white is gonna get exploited a little bit?
]
;W[ib]C[Gf4: hope chen will get mid alive
LR: chen is mad
Hollumber [1k\]: wow, its' a really close game, if white lives
]
;B[ge]C[LR: really mad 
ajaxswan [12k\]: haahahaa
Gf4: over played?
Hollumber [1k\]: ouch, yeah, looks like it
Hollumber [1k\]: but, maybe he had to..
]
;W[hd]C[LR: white disturbed by b's patience and loses his cool
Mongoose11 [8k\]: z should play k18, m16 and p16, then try to win the semeai
LR: b very solid, definitely has upper hand 
Hollumber [1k\]: mongoose, too many moves
Hollumber [1k\]: white would get captured
Mongoose11 [8k\]: was a sarcastic comment about how bad w's position is
Mongoose11 [8k\]: ie. three free moves and it's still tight
LR: white engaging in pointless fight
LR: gains nothing
Diabolus [3k\]: c11
USGO2 [-\]: Board 1 finishes and Zhaonian stands to look at the result before retaking his seat.
LR: losing the war just for the sake of a few concubines
]
;B[hf]C[LR: you go mingjiu
]
;W[he]
;B[gf]C[LR: be youthful again
sevigny [6k?\]: indeed, rock and roll
Verse [2k\]: I love how the most likely result of this fight is both h16 and f13 dying
]
;W[if]
;B[hg]
;W[ig]
;B[hh]C[WolfAttack [3d\]: i love how you are wrong and h14 is dead
WolfAttack [3d\]: nvm
Verse [2k\]: lol
sankojingz [1k\]: w crashed into pieces
iR2Noob [10k\]: lol fail
WolfAttack [3d\]: he played wrong move
iR2Noob [10k\]: yeah
Verse [2k\]: I love how you said I was wrong and then agreed with me :D
WolfAttack [3d\]: lol
GeorgeW [-\]: The right move being?
Verse [2k\]: how would he have killed h14?
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu finishes the last of his tea.
iR2Noob [10k\]: ther is no good move lol
Verse [2k\]: I was looking for a move, couldn't find it
]
;W[ih]
;B[hi]
;W[ii]
;B[hj]C[Hollumber [1k\]: everyhting gone die...
LR: hands up
Gf4: over lolo
iR2Noob [10k\]: l10
Verse [2k\]: well he might save h16
]
;W[bj]C[sankojingz [1k\]: zchen is not pro thatès why
]
;B[bl]C[iR2Noob [10k\]: he can connect with m7 if he read well
NewToThee [6k\]: doesnt look as if it dies but will be reduced to ignorable size 
LR: nice move
LR: time for w to stand up and leave
Mongoose11 [8k\]: sente on b4?
sankojingz [1k\]: one stone three dead birds
]
;W[dk]C[Mike [2k\]: oh dang, zchen vs mingjiu? epic.
teenkyu [6k\]: ballsy.
teenkyu [6k\]: white has balls.
teenkyu [6k\]: black monkey jump
teenkyu [6k\]: a5
BigDoug [-\]: teenkyu, please stop now
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian places D9 with thumb and index finger.
LR: dunkey has balls too
sankojingz [1k\]: b c12
teenkyu [6k\]: sorry i just ment as it as gutsy
teenkyu [6k\]: meant*
iR2Noob [10k\]: lol thx doug
BigDoug [-\]: LR, please don't talk in this game for the next 30 minutes
NewToThee [6k\]: wow bigdoug ...long time not seen=)
iR2Noob [10k\]: you are my hero
gluiwiya [4k\]: w should quit, no miracle
teenkyu [6k\]: cant black c12?
WolfAttack [3d\]: a5?
]
;B[jk]C[LeeSeTroll [3d\]: mingjiu must really want to kill everything to not just play a5
sankojingz [1k\]: not bad either
ychen88888 [?\]: game over.
Mike [2k\]: i dont have much hope for j12 stones
iR2Noob [10k\]: w l10 was ok for w before this move i believe
WolfAttack [3d\]: USGO2: white resigns
]
;W[kj]C[Hollumber [1k\]: wolf -_-
Verse [2k\]: lol WolfAttack
ychen88888 [?\]: it's a pain for W to continue.
Hollumber [1k\]: do the players play the stones with their first two fingers?
WolfAttack [3d\]: no
WolfAttack [3d\]: n10
Gosu [-\]: only w. he is new
ZedekBlue [-\]: They play it with their toes.
USGO2 [-\]: Usually they do.
]
;B[ej]
;W[dj]C[BigDoug [-\]: ZedekBlue, please don't talk in this game for the next 30 minutes
ZedekBlue [-\]: ._.
sankojingz [1k\]: c13
Hollumber [1k\]: Big doug, = big bully; i can't even enjoy this game - good night everyone
USGO2 [-\]:  Another cell phone breaks the stillness of the room before it is silenced.
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;B[ao]C[NewToThee [6k\]: bigdoug .. still believe there will be 30 minutes of a game here ?
iR2Noob [10k\]: lol
]
;W[dl]
;B[cm]
;W[bn]
;B[an]C[iR2Noob [10k\]: that mean cut it forever then lol
WolfAttack [3d\]: bigdoug dont talk 4 30 minutes
ZhengZheng [9k\]: what going on in the live stream?
tzulilee [6k\]: ＮＩＣＥ
]
;W[fm]
;B[em]C[Mdx [5k\]: good trade ?
]
;W[ij]C[Illyria [?\]: zchen is trying really hard to trade
Gosu [-\]: normally with a trade, both parties get something
iR2Noob [10k\]: boom.
]
;B[ik]C[iR2Noob [10k\]: l11
Mdx [5k\]: g8 D:
Gosu [-\]: b13 also looms
davideo [3k\]: white is zchen??
davideo [3k\]: this little boy?
sankojingz [1k\]: one stoen 3 birds to die
Mike [2k\]: zchen is not a little boy
davideo [3k\]: isnt he like 14?
Mdx [5k\]: last info i Had was 13
Illyria [?\]: seems like h9 is zchen's only chance
b8matt [3k\]: zchen in college
sankojingz [1k\]: he was 10 years ago
Mike [2k\]: you are mistaking him for kghin maybe
davideo [3k\]: o ok
Mdx [5k\]: i must have outdated info 
Mdx [5k\]: o.O
ZhengZheng [9k\]: what's in the livestream?
ZhengZheng [9k\]: anybody watching?
Mike [2k\]: w picks j12 or d9 to live?
]
;W[fn]C[ZedekBlue [-\]: I was watching. I have no idea what's happening, though.
ZedekBlue [-\]: It looks like they're giving awards or something?
ZedekBlue [-\]: No idea.
ychen88888 [?\]: the quality of the games shows that they are all too tired.
lekien [7k\]: minggjiu jang is pro go<
lekien [7k\]: ?
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu receives his 10 minute warning from the clock.  He then changes the languange.
]
;B[fl]C[Mike [2k\]: lol
b8matt [3k\]: language - english to ?
Illyria [?\]: I'd assume chinese
Satanis [-\]: Who's winning?
USGO2 [-\]: Korean to presumably Chinese
secureid [7k\]: b
]
;W[gk]C[Gosu [-\]: ing clock?
]
;B[gl]C[cenalexis [2k\]: there is korean rules/
USGO2 [-\]: Yes.
cenalexis [2k\]: ?
b8matt [3k\]: where is this tourney being held?
USGO2 [-\]: cenalexis: This tournament is using AGA rules.
QualityDr [10k?\]: UC Santa Barbara
Mdx [5k\]: Gosu: http://senseis.xmp.net/?ingclock
Satanis [-\]: Why is the 7p playing as black? Shouldn't the 7d be playing?
]
;W[fk]C[joeyhung [7d\]: game over.
]
;B[hk]C[Mdx [5k\]: Satanis, tournament with no HC
USGO2 [-\]: Colors are randomly picked by the pairing software.
]
;W[in]C[GaretJax [4k?\]: does anyone know who won board one?
KGSisKGS: the 1p did
brookgo [9k\]: the 1p
GaretJax [4k?\]: was the 1p w or B?
USGO10 [-\]: they auctioned the board off for $1000
anathema [4k\]: this is becoming a bit of a disaster here
USGO10 [-\]: white
KGSisKGS: w
Gosu [-\]: who bought it?
kyudawg [6k\]: what's avg price for the boaords?
]
;B[gm]
;W[li]
;B[kh]C[GaretJax [4k?\]: thank you usgo10
]
;W[jj]C[RobertT [-\]: well the auction started at $200
]
;B[cg]C[GaretJax [4k?\]: Kyudawg, I've heard that the boards have gone for 600 in the past
BigDoug [-\]: please keep the comments about this game, not the go boards
]
;W[bg]
;B[ch]C[RobertT [-\]: but they're so shiney
lance [1d\]: at last. kill d13
Gosu [-\]: even this atari
]
;W[bh]C[LR: b has e12
LR: so ok to ploay c11
ychen88888 [?\]: b can do c11.
joeyhung [7d\]: 30+ difference.
horacelamb [3d\]: I don't think it quite works
kyudawg [6k\]: e12 e11
brooklyn [3d\]: b+20
kyudawg [6k\]: there's a weakness there
]
;B[ei]
;W[ci]C[KGSisKGS: c11 then b11 then c10 then c9 so it wouldn't work
]
;B[dh]C[LR: master is showing grace
LR: time for z to zip up
lance [1d\]: yea
]
;W[eh]
;B[di]
;W[fi]
;B[bf]C[acn [1d\]: poor w
shili [2d\]: ????
sankojingz [1k\]: all dead
Mike [2k\]: looking for a place to resign
]
;W[ek]C[maher140 [4k\]: w got greedy =/
]
;B[be]C[Mdx [5k\]: couldnt he live if he didnt force black?
LR: all dead
lance [1d\]: bravo mingjiu
anathema [4k\]: doomed
sevigny [6k?\]: ouch
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: probably just wants to resign
Naecro [12k\]: c14
ChimiLord [26k?\]: force the cube!
LR: w should resign after corner is dead
Exologist [2k\]: Rubix cube!
patrickn [2k\]: force the cube for spite
patrickn [2k\]: just for spite
LR: now too late to resign
anathema [4k\]: everything is dead now... 
LR: disgraced himself already
Naecro [12k\]: c14 for cube definitely
crew: before resign and look pro
SnC [2k\]: w should resign now
ychen88888 [?\]: why still continues?
crew: now resign and look noob
USGO2 [-\]: Mingjiu forgot to hit his clock and it calls out a 5 minute warning in English.
KGSisKGS: because it is a tourny
Mdx [5k\]: ouch
USGO2 [-\]: He quickly corrects his error.
kke: w should resgin much earlier ....
Hernee [2d\]: W plans to win by time?
Gosu [-\]: w plans to resign when it's his turn
secureid [7k\]: w is looking a UL corner
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian receives his 10 minute warning.
secureid [7k\]: *at
crew: w wants to cut h9 off?
Bilapidate [1k\]: Maybe W planning to lose on time
secureid [7k\]: w's only chance
sankojingz [1k\]: even not steps down for resign
kyudawg [6k\]: that would be rude at this point
kyudawg [6k\]: 10 minutes is too long
maher140 [4k\]: f10  pass g12 pass g13 pass g11 alive ;D
Verse [2k\]: Is there an ettiquette about resigning on your own turn vs your opponent's turn?
patrickn [2k\]: he wouldnt g12 if f10 pass
patrickn [2k\]: lol
davideo [3k\]: dead
Imp20 [3k\]: you sequence can be done in 2 moves
davideo [3k\]: this is crazy
Qi [-\]: why would you stall at this pt. it's obvious
Imp20 [3k\]: f10 c14 
ychen88888 [?\]: i would have resigned 30 moves earlier.
LR: mingjiu rarely wins by resignation
Imp20 [3k\]: or f10 pass c14... alive
Gosu [-\]: you guys never played in a tournament? stuff is not so clear.
sankojingz [1k\]: 死晒
maher140 [4k\]: lol
crew: but u wouldn't in real life
kke: w should put down the lose for next win....
wskb [-\]: zchen,resign, no?still have chance?
Naecro [12k\]: wc14 bc15 wf10 bc14 cube 
maher140 [4k\]: se says w+30
kke: game already so urgly
nnnn2007 [1d\]: g6
Verse [2k\]: is Zhaonian Chen zchen here on KGS?  I apologize if this has been asked already
Gosu [-\]: yes
secureid [7k\]: any guess on w's next move?
wskb [-\]: just like stay with pro longer?
QualityDr [10k?\]: Yep
KGSisKGS: yes
goflash [4k\]: w should resign long time ago
Imp20 [3k\]: lol se thinks top right black is dead
Imp20 [3k\]: those 5 w stones there are the ones that are dead
Verse [2k\]: Se is thorougly confused
crew: g6 only place left to think abt
wskb [-\]: zchen.........
Qi [-\]: kgs gotta update this score estimator thing, it's terrible
Bilapidate [1k\]: SE would resign
KGSisKGS: g6 really doesn't do a whole lot...
bloodninja [?\]: i wonder what w is doing right now
Illyria [?\]: I suspect that zchen is looking for an awesome tesuji, and if he can't find one, he'll resign
sankojingz [1k\]: dead ugly
bloodninja [?\]: his expression
Hernee [2d\]: It'd be enough if SE didn't miscount seki's and supported other rulesystems than Japanese
maher140 [4k\]: w will find an awesome tesuji and kill everything rofl
LR: i can kill this group in my sleep
Verse [2k\]: Hernee: or kill groups with more than two eyes?
Imp20 [3k\]: maybe he trying to see if w can capture the h9 stones
patrickn [2k\]: is there an open source SE?
sankojingz [1k\]: 2i
Gosu [-\]: yes, gnugo for example
Verse [2k\]: Patrickn: You could download gnugo and view the file offline in it
Mdx [5k\]: is it any better?
patrickn [2k\]: you don't even need it to be perfect, you just have a person assist it to point out what is dead
blob [5k\]: i wrote one in python a while back
RobertT [-\]: or you can count
sankojingz [1k\]: USGO2 is it finished?
Gosu [-\]: it's a bit better
USGO2 [-\]: Once more the bell tower echoes the hour across the campus.
patrickn [2k\]: counting is so last year
Qi [-\]: w8, this isn't so clear, there could indeed be stuff going on
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian receives a 5 minute warning from the clock.
Mdx [5k\]: Qi, share with us?
bloodninja [?\]: wonder what w's expression is
sankojingz [1k\]: shame to resign?
Bilapidate [1k\]: I tell you he's gonna lose on time
blob [5k\]: programming all the ways fake eyes can make each other real eyes is tricky, but i got it eventually
Mike [2k\]: lol tournament setting, and b+time
wskb [-\]: he has chance if  mingjiu forgets hit the clock...
sankojingz [1k\]: save some face
cadillac [5d?\]: lol
Qi [-\]: obviously, it's not so clear, or he would've made his move
USGO2 [-\]: After the situation played out with the H2 group, Zhaonian has been more or less impassive for the whole game.
Qi [-\]: unlikely, but no entire impossible
sankojingz [1k\]: it is rude to play like this
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: no, its clear nothing works, thats why he plays nothing
maher140 [4k\]: maybe he's gonna hit the pause button, stop time, and change the board so that b dies everywhere.
patrickn [2k\]: its not rude to use your time
patrickn [2k\]: he can do whatever he wants
USGO2 [-\]: Zhaonian places his handful of stones back in the bowl and announces his resignation.
Mdx [5k\]: GG
maher140 [4k\]: GG
lance [1d\]: nothing doesn't work either
wskb [-\]:  mind your manner
Mdx [5k\]: Thank you for the broadcast
KGSisKGS: Ty USGO2!
Illyria [?\]: thanks USGO2!
anathema [4k\]: thanks usgo2! 
sevigny [6k?\]: thx usgo2
Bilapidate [1k\]: Thanks, USGO2
maher140 [4k\]: thanks usgo2
davideo [3k\]: this is a 100 moku game
davideo [3k\]: so crazy
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: GG, thx USGO2,  Great commentary
anathema [4k\]: commentary was great fun
davideo [3k\]: who is black??????????? so good......
USGO2 [-\]: Thanks for joining us for our live coverage of the 2011 North American Masters tournament, brought to you by the AGA  E-Journal.  Check back tomorrow morning at 9am Pacific time for the broadcast of the final round of the 2011 US Open!
globax [3d\]: thanks from France usgo 02
Tetriste [1d\]: just look at the names davideo ;)
davideo [3k\]: black has to be one of the top pros 
davideo [3k\]: ever
davideo [3k\]: i've never seen a better player
davideo [3k\]: no joke
Tetriste [1d\]: nah he's not a top pro
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: is there another round in the master's tournament?
USGO2 [-\]: You are very welcome.
patrickn [2k\]: well hes obviously not top, consideirng hes 7 and not 9
Tetriste [1d\]: he's ''only'' 7p
davideo [3k\]: 7 pro is close to 9
lance [1d\]: join KGS plus and see his lessons
anathema [4k\]: and he's pretty darn funny too... 
blob [5k\]: this 7p lost yesterday
KGSisKGS: He has a brother that is 9p though
davideo [3k\]: i cant believe he can beat zchen by 100 moku
davideo [3k\]: unbelievable
Tetriste [1d\]: chinese 7p can't possibly compare to the monster 9p from korea
patrickn [2k\]: zchen wins big or loses big, thats how he rolls
lance [1d\]: zchen beat himself
blob [5k\]: yeah
davideo [3k\]: u guys arent giving black enough credit
ErrorProne [1k?\]: He teaches on KGS plus, right?
anathema [4k\]: yes
davideo [3k\]: black plahyed flawless
LeeSeTroll [3d\]: zchen didnt beat himself, he just decided to lose by 100 instead of 20
Tetriste [1d\]: no, not at all, black is an awesome player, and an awesome teacher too, but he's not a top pro ;)
davideo [3k\]: he has to be top 100 go players
kyudawg [6k\]: um..it's not 100 points
lance [1d\]: how about beat himself up?
davideo [3k\]: in thew rold
davideo [3k\]: the world*
kyudawg [6k\]: more like 500
kyudawg [6k\]: *50
davideo [3k\]: no.... its about 90 point game
Tetriste [1d\]: 500 seems accurate
sankojingz [1k\]: that is why he is here in north amerca
davideo [3k\]: black +90
wskb [-\]: he also has a 9p sister in law
sankojingz [1k\]: top pro will be always in asia
blob [5k\]: yeah riight
davideo [3k\]: how many 9pros are there in the world?
Tetriste [1d\]: quite a lot I think?
lance [1d\]: Mt Fuji will also always be in asia
sankojingz [1k\]: his sister in law is very tough beating male top pro a few times
kyudawg [6k\]: oh, i was counting lower right alive
davideo [3k\]: lower left u mean?
Tetriste [1d\]: you also gotta consider that there are the top amateur players in korea, that are on par with top pros
davideo [3k\]: there are amateur palyers tha tare 9pro level???
sankojingz [1k\]: Mt ximalaya is always in asia
Tetriste [1d\]: yeah
USGO2 [-\]: Yesterday Maeda Ryo mentioned a tournament he was scheduled to be in that had over 400 pros participating.
davideo [3k\]: how can an amateur be THAT good???
davideo [3k\]: i dont get it?
davideo [3k\]: 9 pro level?>
MalRondon [4k\]: w won i think
Tetriste [1d\]: they're geniuses
davideo [3k\]: why are they only in korea?
davideo [3k\]: and why dont they become pro?
Tetriste [1d\]: because, it's almost impossible to become pro there
davideo [3k\]: in korea?
davideo [3k\]: why?
Tetriste [1d\]: it's a really severe test
davideo [3k\]: y?
sankojingz [1k\]: y y?
Tetriste [1d\]: I think it was to win a championship?
Nation [4k\]: to make sure they're ready for it
Nation [4k\]: if they're not ready, then it's a no go
davideo [3k\]: why is korea more strong than china or japan
davideo [3k\]: their tests that is
davideo [3k\]: their tests are more competitive?
Tetriste [1d\]: that I can't say
Nation [4k\]: They study diligently so they have high expectations
Nation [4k\]: No reason they shouldn't
davideo [3k\]: i love korea
shan [3k\]: who win
Tetriste [1d\]: it's touchy, because they also train strong in china
Tetriste [1d\]: but
Tetriste [1d\]: I think there's more players in korea too?
shan [3k\]: i think korea and japan and china, there are no more young ppl have interests to study and play this game
Tetriste [1d\]: korea is like a special case, alexander dinnerstein (russian 3p) said that the 1p there are about as strong as the 9p
sankojingz [1k\]: china korea neck to neck, japan is weaker
shan [3k\]: maybe,thats because japanese young ppl dont like this game
sankojingz [1k\]: but if it is a two day match maybe japan is neck to neck too
Tetriste [1d\]: nah it's not that they don't like the game but
sankojingz [1k\]: a chinese pro had beat almost all japanese strontest pros in 1950 or so
Tetriste [1d\]: it's easier to become a pro in japan
Tetriste [1d\]: so they tend to be sort of weaker
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