(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[2020 Redmond Cup Senior Division Finals Game 1]PW[Xinlei Liu]PB[Brady Zhang]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2021-03-06]EV[2020 Redmond Cup Senior Division Finals]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+4.50]
;B[pd]BL[3594.02]C[AlexL2016 [?\]: GL!
]
;W[dp]WL[3595.812]C[brightstar [?\]: gl
]
;B[qp]BL[3590.188]
;W[dd]WL[3590.812]
;B[fq]BL[3581.963]
;W[cn]WL[3587.223]
;B[lq]BL[3574.087]
;W[qj]WL[3582.003]C[Fantleroy [?\]: wooo !
Fantleroy [?\]: what are the ranks of the players ?
]
;B[qf]BL[3548.586]C[odnihs [-\]: both are 7d
]
;W[qm]WL[3565.806]C[jerwin [5k\]: wow
]
;B[pn]BL[3541.589]
;W[qn]WL[3564.449]C[odnihs [-\]: White is Alex Liu from Seattle, and black is Brady Zhang from BC, Canada
]
;B[qo]BL[3534.625]
;W[mp]WL[3563.157]C[odnihs [-\]: this is the first Redmond Cup Finals for both players
shimari [-\]: playing at breakneck speed, lol
odnihs [-\]: Both players are 17 years old
Fantleroy [?\]: impressive level for their age !
odnihs [-\]: This is actually the Finals for last year's tournament, which was postponed due to the pandemic
]
;B[lp]BL[3432.958]C[odnihs [-\]: usually the Finals would be at the US Go Congress
Fantleroy [?\]: this opening looks very AGA'ish
]
;W[mo]WL[3543.081]C[odnihs [-\]: however, because the US Go Congress is cancelled again this year, we decided to just do last year's Finals online
Fantleroy [?\]: I see, ty odnihs
odnihs [-\]: I have both players on a video call right now; I suppose I can give some color commentary as the game progresses :)
Fantleroy [?\]: oh yes please ! 
]
;B[pm]BL[3363.748]C[Fantleroy [?\]: I remember that was my favourite in the AGA pro tournaments
odnihs [-\]: hahaha
odnihs [-\]: both players are using a Macbook to play their games today
odnihs [-\]: Brady has popped up his laptop on a pile of books
odnihs [-\]: propped*
Fantleroy [?\]: nowadays we don't see much micro-chinese , it has become somewhat usual to answer f3 at p3 
odnihs [-\]: yes, this opening is pretty old-style these days
Xorax [2d\]: aha so B is thinking he can beat W with old people go :O
Fantleroy [?\]: I would also expect that r10 would be somewhere else now
]
;W[pl]WL[3432.021]
;B[ol]BL[3359.618]
;W[pk]WL[3424.368]C[Fantleroy [?\]: well, as far as I see both are settling for this sort of opening, maybe it just suits them better
odnihs [-\]: haha yes probably, though it's still perfectly fine
Fantleroy [?\]: yes, for sure
odnihs [-\]: maybe more used to it
Fantleroy [?\]: what would be your next move as b ? o7 looks appealing to me
odnihs [-\]: o7 certainly looks like a standard move
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: I'm not sure, but perhaps AI would q4 or something like that instead of r10
]
;B[mq]BL[3250.919]C[Fantleroy [?\]: I would expect AI to approach or invade the upper right corner and leave the bottom right aji for later
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: ah yeah might 3-3 invade first
odnihs [-\]: hm an interesting move; i'm not particularly a fan of the shape after white p4
Fantleroy [?\]: n3 is strong also, I guess b isn't so worried of p4 
Fantleroy [?\]: yes, not that simple to answer imo
]
;W[nm]WL[3326.86]C[odnihs [-\]: Brady is one of the star young players in Canada, having had several international appearances already
odnihs [-\]: recently he reached the quarterfinals in the korean prime minister cup
Fantleroy [?\]: what about p5 now ? 
]
;B[om]BL[3181.739]C[Fantleroy [?\]: impressive
]
;W[oo]WL[3323.211]C[odnihs [-\]: i believe he defeated stanislaw frejlak from poland to get there; not an easy feat
Fantleroy [?\]: definitely not, siasio is a top european amateur
]
;B[pq]BL[3052.663]C[odnihs [-\]: Alex has had a much younger career in north america; I believe this is his 3rd time playing in the Redmodn Cup
]
;W[kn]WL[3295.298]C[Fantleroy [?\]: is he somewhat of an outsider, then ?
odnihs [-\]: he actually got third in 2017 with a pretty stellar performance though
]
;B[fo]BL[3001.337]C[odnihs [-\]: yea i believe he started playing in north america events around the end of 2016
]
;W[jo]WL[3273.758]
;B[cq]BL[2971.309]C[odnihs [-\]: I believe he won the Seattle Open in both 2017 and 2020
]
;W[dq]WL[3259.723]
;B[dr]BL[2967.289]
;W[er]WL[3246.504]
;B[cr]BL[2964.859]
;W[eq]WL[3244.747]
;B[cp]BL[2946.887]C[Fantleroy [?\]: I am not sure I like this result for white too much
]
;W[do]WL[3225.352]
;B[fr]BL[2943.307]
;W[fs]WL[3216.765]C[odnihs [-\]: he also plays on the seattle team in the AGA City B League
]
;B[ds]BL[2915.445]C[odnihs [-\]: it's also worth noting that Alex did defeat Brady in the preliminaries of this tournament
]
;W[ck]WL[3183.348]C[Wirtuoosi [2d\]: I don't like taking the lower left corner for b, but that's probably because my positional judgement is still very weak
]
;B[fc]BL[2876.703]C[Fantleroy [?\]: It seems the aim of f5 was to make miai of k5 and c3 , the latter is quite severe if f5 is ignored
]
;W[df]WL[3174.301]
;B[jd]BL[2870.572]C[Fantleroy [?\]: the shape at d1 looks real odd, though, haha
odnihs [-\]: maybe looks a little funny but is functional
]
;W[qh]WL[3026.122]C[odnihs [-\]: a gentle but solid move
odnihs [-\]: b playing r12 would unlock some aji at s9
Fantleroy [?\]: functional in what sense ? if w gets e1 and b5 it is a bent four, no ?
odnihs [-\]: this also prepares a little bit for fighting if white plays q5 later
Fantleroy [?\]: I like r12 , aims at q5 also
odnihs [-\]: if white gets e1 and b5 then b2 kills
odnihs [-\]: without d1*
]
;B[nl]BL[2735.908]C[Fantleroy [?\]: so bent four is better than kills because c5 remains ?
]
;W[mm]WL[3012.849]C[odnihs [-\]: not sure what you mean
Fantleroy [?\]: you said that the difference between d1 and not playing it is that when w gets e1 and b5 it's dead without d1 and bent four with d1 ?
Fantleroy [?\]: or did I get that wrong
odnihs [-\]: oh with d1 it's alive
odnihs [-\]: but it also serves the purpose of making e3 and k3 miai as you said before
odnihs [-\]: e1 and k3*
]
;B[oc]BL[2594.039]C[Fantleroy [?\]: how do you live as black after w gets e1 and b5 ?
]
;W[po]WL[2978.994]C[bert [?\]: in seki
odnihs [-\]: yes seki
odnihs [-\]: wait
]
;B[ml]BL[2484.242]C[odnihs [-\]: yea
Fantleroy [?\]: ah but I'm stupid, I still sometimes confuse seki and bent four lol
odnihs [-\]: haha all good
odnihs [-\]: look like some fighting is breaking out
odnihs [-\]: but looks like black shouldn't have much problem managing this group
]
;W[kl]WL[2921.653]C[odnihs [-\]: the question is what white can get out of the forcing moves making black run out
bert [?\]: there are several moves w can try, so not so easy to read out
Fantleroy [?\]: it seems w can hope to mae a framework on the left, but still not so easy to find a good move to attack f2 
Fantleroy [?\]: make*
sedgwick [?\]: White want to take sente for d18 soon, if black got the chance that would be huge
odnihs [-\]: yea top left is last unresolved corner
]
;B[pi]BL[2397.431]C[Fantleroy [?\]: unless you can't read , then bottom left is also unresolved ;^)
odnihs [-\]: ;)
odnihs [-\]: it appears to be about 47 degrees in both seattle and british columbia today
odnihs [-\]: fahrenheit*
]
;W[ni]WL[2854.231]C[odnihs [-\]: though alex is wearing a t-shirt while brady is wearing a hoodie
sedgwick [?\]: Fairly safe assumption you didn't mean celcius :)
odnihs [-\]: perhaps their home thermostats are set at different temperatures
odnihs [-\]: hahaha
Xorax [2d\]: 47c is what 110f?
Fantleroy [?\]: 116
Xorax [2d\]: oh, o11 
]
;B[lk]BL[2291.889]C[Fantleroy [?\]: o11 looks flashy, also very interesting
Cytotoxic [?\]: is this absolute timing
Cytotoxic [?\]: or is there some byo-yomi?
Xorax [2d\]: 5 period 30 seconds it says
]
;W[ph]WL[2801.897]C[bert [?\]: nothing is absolute
obesyx [2d\]: except that last statement
]
;B[jj]BL[2196.48]C[Cytotoxic [?\]: lol
]
;W[id]WL[2717.998]C[odnihs [-\]: white is certainly playing actively
]
;B[ic]BL[2142.819]C[coconut [2k\]: Sry if it's already told, but .. who are the players and they levels ?
]
;W[hc]WL[2708.915]C[Wirtuoosi [2d\]: I think he has to now since b has more secure territory
Xorax [2d\]: wonde if he worried about B coming from j8 or something
backflash [8k\]: looks half dead?
Fantleroy [?\]: odnihs [-\]: White is Alex Liu from Seattle, and black is Brady Zhang from BC, Canada
Fantleroy [?\]: both 7d AGA
indianayk [5d?\]: what type of AGA tourney is this? 
coconut [2k\]: wow gg :)
coconut [2k\]: thx !
odnihs [-\]: this is a youth tournament
indianayk [5d?\]:  thanks
odnihs [-\]: players play in a 6-round preliminaries, and the top 2 players get invited to the US Go Congress to play in the finals
odnihs [-\]: this is actually the finals of the 2020 tournament, which we were going to postpone until the 2021 usgc
coconut [2k\]: ah yes ... great for the winners
odnihs [-\]: but because there's no 2021 usgc, it's being played online 
odnihs [-\]: they will still get a free trip to the next in-person usgc though :)
obesyx [2d\]: xorax, I would think it was about stirring up some trouble with the aim to get either some cash or some influence that could make b nervous about his o8 stones
odnihs [-\]: i would be a bit tempted to cut at L9 soon for white
]
;B[oj]BL[1853.9]C[odnihs [-\]: Alex seems to have gotten up to go to the bathroom
]
;W[jc]WL[2588.057]
;B[ib]BL[1787.763]C[indianayk [5d?\]: the cut does not have any helpful w position to attack k10
]
;W[kc]WL[2529.385]C[backflash [8k\]: w feels safe I guess
afgani [?\]: what is this game?
backflash [8k\]: aga youth tournament
]
;B[hb]BL[1667.762]
;W[je]WL[2513.5]
;B[qi]BL[1664.551]
;W[ri]WL[2504.561]
;B[rj]BL[1662.506]
;W[rk]WL[2494.759]C[odnihs [-\]: Finals of the 2020 Redmond Cup senior division
odnihs [-\]: it's a best-of-3; game 2 will be played tomorrow
backflash [8k\]: same time?
odnihs [-\]: tomorrow's game will be at 6 pm et
]
;B[ql]BL[1582.493]C[sedgwick [?\]: r8 really nice timing
odnihs [-\]: game 1 of the junior division finals will also be later today at 6 pm et
odnihs [-\]: and game 1 of the aga girls cup finals will be at 9:30 pm et
shimari [-\]: A busy day!
backflash [8k\]: ouch, 1pm for me
]
;W[qk]WL[2437.858]C[odnihs [-\]: game 2 for all three matches will be at 6 pm et tomorrow though
shimari [-\]: great all star commentary here, lol
backflash [8k\]: 1am*
odnihs [-\]: some of the game 1s had to be rescheduled a bit because of schedule conflicts
]
;B[rh]BL[1556.123]
;W[sj]WL[2434.71]C[afgani [?\]: how old are the players?
odnihs [-\]: both are 17
afgani [?\]: thanks
Xorax [2d\]: b needs some kind of sente from l6 to fix this right side?
Fantleroy [?\]: it seems to me the whole point was to get some strong ladder breaker
bert [?\]: b may sacrifice 6 stones
Fantleroy [?\]: cause locally it doesn't look so good
]
;B[ng]BL[1296.587]
;W[kd]WL[2371.836]
;B[oh]BL[1280.014]
;W[db]WL[2360.84]C[odnihs [-\]: oo
Fantleroy [?\]: :o
Fantleroy [?\]: s13 looked both big and sente, but i guess he thinks this is bigger and sente-er
]
;B[hd]BL[1245.93]
;W[gd]WL[2344.81]
;B[gc]BL[1237.329]
;W[he]WL[2342.545]
;B[ge]BL[1200.242]C[Xorax [2d\]: s13 looked like W would play p9 and grab some stuff
]
;W[hc]WL[2319.342]C[bert [?\]: w can still do that
bert [?\]: i doubt o13 and p12 were optimal
]
;B[ed]BL[1000.687]C[iGo4Now [1k\]: what's this?
iGo4Now [1k\]: pro game?
odnihs [-\]: redmond cup finals
odnihs [-\]: senior division
iGo4Now [1k\]: ohh
odnihs [-\]: i feel like alex might connect
katulok [1k\]: in how many rounds?
odnihs [-\]: this is game 1 of a best-of-3
katulok [1k\]: thx
]
;W[rg]WL[1974.482]C[odnihs [-\]: more information about the tournament can be found here: https://www.usgo.org/redmond-cup
Cytotoxic [?\]: nice forcing move
]
;B[pg]BL[959.267]
;W[sh]WL[1966.763]C[Cytotoxic [?\]: white could monkey jump @ T16
Cytotoxic [?\]: can the players see this chat?
iGo4Now [1k\]: no
TheThe [2k\]: after the game players can see but not while playing now
Cytotoxic [?\]: interesting
Cytotoxic [?\]: do they actually read it?
TheThe [2k\]: if they want to
Xorax [2d\]: dont think anyone would actually read this kind of char xD
Cytotoxic [?\]: but do they ever?
Xorax [2d\]: chat*
TheThe [2k\]: some do some dont most dont
Cytotoxic [?\]: cool cool
]
;B[hd]BL[803.748]
;W[oi]WL[1956.948]C[odnihs [-\]: Alex appears to be holding something in his left hand
odnihs [-\]: looks like a toothpick or something
odnihs [-\]: he's fidgeting a bit with it
]
;B[de]BL[761.647]
;W[ce]WL[1933.473]
;B[dc]BL[754.468]
;W[cd]WL[1909.836]C[odnihs [-\]: brady's been pretty stoic this whole time
odnihs [-\]: not much movement
iGo4Now [1k\]: hmmm, is l6 alive?
odnihs [-\]: not dead at least ;p
backflash [8k\]: it can run
Fantleroy [?\]: I'd say it's alive enough for now, esp since l9 works
Xorax [2d\]: if I was w it would be dead, but if Im B its alive
Xorax [2d\]: so bit of shroedingers group :O
backflash [8k\]: it is a little weird b isn't attacking it yet
]
;B[kk]BL[564.18]
;W[cc]WL[1891.95]
;B[fd]BL[536.682]C[Fantleroy [?\]: o10 ?
Fantleroy [?\]: looks pretty huge
]
;W[nj]WL[1858.116]
;B[dk]BL[481.342]C[iGo4Now [1k\]: looks like b's starting to attack w middle
]
;W[cj]WL[1818.717]
;B[dm]BL[466.757]
;W[bo]WL[1763.537]
;B[cl]BL[443.92]
;W[bl]WL[1760.453]
;B[bm]BL[441.612]
;W[cm]WL[1757.346]
;B[dl]BL[440.454]
;W[bk]WL[1756.001]C[lucasyang [4k\]: yep
katulok [1k\]: the shape too good. and m8 sente
]
;B[nn]BL[377.064]C[tamii [-\]: looks hard to even threaten
]
;W[mn]WL[1711.707]
;B[hf]BL[352.541]
;W[mc]WL[1670.025]
;B[jg]BL[298.024]
;W[ei]WL[1627.573]
;B[lb]BL[252.484]C[iGo4Now [1k\]: going in for the kill!
nerub [?\]: what else ?
]
;W[mb]WL[1584.563]
;B[kf]BL[249.461]C[backflash [8k\]: does he need to kill? b seems ahead
nerub [?\]: not sure he's ahead
nerub [?\]: but killing sure helps to make pts
iGo4Now [1k\]: I see no way to live...
]
;W[me]WL[1478.839]C[nerub [?\]: there are phone lines for this
]
;B[le]BL[223.193]
;W[ke]WL[1423.884]
;B[lf]BL[129.461]C[odnihs [-\]: looks alive now
]
;W[ie]WL[1390.72]C[Hangyeong [1d\]: definitly
]
;B[jp]BL[54.146]
;W[es]WL[1341.59]
;B[bp]BL[44.715]C[nerub [?\]: hm
odnihs [-\]: hmm
]
;W[dn]WL[1316.123]C[odnihs [-\]: i almost thought maybe black would just try to go kill the white group instead of saving the corner
]
;B[io]BL[26.286]C[iGo4Now [1k\]: who's ahead?
nerub [?\]: he might try to do both
backflash [8k\]: it's alive I think
backflash [8k\]: m8 sente is a big deal
odnihs [-\]: i feel like white is ahead right now
Xorax [2d\]: w b1 is seki right?
]
;W[in]WL[1274.999]
;B[ho]BL[19.65]C[odnihs [-\]: yea
]
;W[ll]WL[1257.916]
;B[mj]BL[9.812]
;W[il]WL[1254.893]
;B[hm]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[hl]WL[1238.171]
;B[gl]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[im]WL[1221.862]C[nerub [?\]: well
]
;B[eb]BL[30]OB[5]C[Xorax [2d\]: is b p19 something?
]
;W[hn]WL[1175.118]C[nerub [?\]: its pts
]
;B[go]BL[30]OB[4]C[backflash [8k\]: how big is g1 aji in pts?
nerub [?\]: big like a bear
Xorax [2d\]: how far can W jump?
]
;W[hr]WL[1125.416]C[Xorax [2d\]: k1?
Xorax [2d\]: aww he did second line
]
;B[ko]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[jn]WL[1096.636]
;B[gm]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[on]WL[1087.664]C[nerub [?\]: seems w hasnt been worried anytime
]
;B[cb]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ec]WL[1085.646]
;B[rn]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[rm]WL[1081.379]
;B[dc]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ok]WL[1075.312]
;B[mk]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ec]WL[1073.467]
;B[sm]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[rl]WL[1071.637]
;B[dc]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[nq]WL[1049.106]
;B[nr]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ec]WL[1045.228]
;B[ob]BL[30]OB[3]C[sedgwick [?\]: White 51 points without komi, black will be behind on the board it seems
]
;W[lc]WL[1015.112]
;B[dc]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[oq]WL[956.358]
;B[or]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ec]WL[954.389]
;B[na]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ma]WL[950.989]
;B[dc]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[em]WL[919.973]C[backflash [8k\]: this will end in +R
]
;B[en]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ec]WL[913.933]
;B[ja]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ka]WL[905.282]
;B[dc]BL[30]OB[3]C[odnihs [-\]: yea seems tough for black
]
;W[bs]WL[890.64]
;B[br]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ec]WL[888.602]
;B[jb]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[kb]WL[886.746]
;B[dc]BL[30]OB[3]C[nerub [?\]: playing b1 might lose pts ?
backflash [8k\]: a3 seki?
]
;W[fn]WL[816.121]
;B[eo]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ec]WL[813.964]
;B[da]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[dc]WL[803.264]
;B[bb]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[fb]WL[801.319]
;B[ea]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ca]WL[800.079]
;B[ba]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[fa]WL[799.131]
;B[ca]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[bc]WL[798.342]
;B[gb]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[re]WL[788.087]
;B[rf]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[sf]WL[786.19]
;B[rd]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[qe]WL[778.166]
;B[pe]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[qd]WL[769.585]
;B[qc]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[se]WL[768.801]
;B[rc]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[gn]WL[746.861]
;B[fm]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[iq]WL[742.974]
;B[ip]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ro]WL[740.172]
;B[rp]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[sn]WL[738.701]
;B[ee]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ab]WL[733.657]
;B[ga]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[dg]WL[732.027]
;B[jq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jr]WL[716.822]
;B[kr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[aq]WL[678.131]
;B[ap]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ar]WL[670.686]C[bert [?\]: this is a loss
bert [?\]: a6 a5 g1 
]
;B[js]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ir]WL[651.96]
;B[an]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[bn]WL[646.575]
;B[ao]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[am]WL[645.359]C[Shalom [-\]: well...
backflash [8k\]: nope
]
;B[md]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[nd]WL[642.317]
;B[ld]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[nc]WL[636.551]
;B[ne]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mh]WL[631.032]
;B[lh]BL[30]OB[2]C[nerub [?\]: not much pts on this board
bert [?\]: b should have connected at a7 
odnihs [-\]: a7 didn't work
]
;W[nh]WL[582.859]C[sedgwick [?\]: yup, seems finished, black has done well in the endgame, but not enough pts to be had
bert [?\]: opps
]
;B[mg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[og]WL[577.697]
;B[of]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gk]WL[554.957]
;B[el]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fk]WL[545.296]
;B[fh]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[eh]WL[529.987]
;B[fg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hi]WL[522.186]
;B[hj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gi]WL[484.401]
;B[ii]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[nb]WL[472.466]
;B[oa]BL[30]OB[2]C[odnihs [-\]: Brady has taken off his outer jacket; he's still wearing a hoodie underneath
]
;W[op]WL[437.323]
;B[gr]BL[30]OB[2]C[odnihs [-\]: his house must be quite cold
]
;W[gs]WL[417.958]
;B[hq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hs]WL[416.242]
;B[dj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[di]WL[409.384]
;B[ep]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hg]WL[374.98]
;B[gg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[if]WL[367.862]
;B[lo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ln]WL[338.193]
;B[od]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[qg]WL[331.348]
;B[pf]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gf]WL[315.184]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ih]WL[308.693]
;B[jh]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mi]WL[307.288]
;B[li]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[sp]WL[254.341]
;B[sq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[rn]WL[252.59]
;B[qq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ik]WL[241.705]
;B[ij]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jk]WL[239.869]
;B[sd]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[sg]WL[238.105]
;B[fi]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gj]WL[226.107]
;B[ej]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fl]WL[214.309]
;B[em]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[eg]WL[212.272]
;B[ig]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hh]WL[209.124]C[realgo [5d\]: seems like black own
realgo [5d\]: won*
]
;B[oh]BL[30]OB[2]C[odnihs [-\]: i don't think so
]
;W[nk]WL[203.992]C[realgo [5d\]: bottom left is seki and b7 isnt a point
]
;B[hf]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[og]WL[195.39]
;B[so]BL[30]OB[2]C[Xorax [2d\]: its aga
Xorax [2d\]: so its all points xD
realgo [5d\]: ?
backflash [8k\]: what?
Xorax [2d\]: the rules
realgo [5d\]: what does aga have to do with this
odnihs [-\]: se if broken if you're using that
Fantleroy [?\]: yes, but even if you try to make sense of score est it won't be accurate
]
;W[gf]WL[164.119]C[Fantleroy [?\]: it just doesn't work in non-japanese rules
realgo [5d\]: oh odnihs, i didnt know it was broken
]
;B[sp]BL[30]OB[2]C[realgo [5d\]: nvm then
Fantleroy [?\]: w is winning by komi I think
Xorax [2d\]: w +8maybe?
]
;W[hf]WL[158.999]
;B[oh]BL[30]OB[2]C[odnihs [-\]: yea around tehre
]
;W[fj]WL[154.723]C[odnihs [-\]: there*
]
;B[ef]BL[30]OB[2]C[realgo [5d\]: se is always wrong
]
;W[og]WL[147.629]
;B[ci]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ch]WL[140.132]
;B[oh]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[bm]WL[129.55]
;B[og]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hk]WL[127.369]
;B[kj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ac]WL[124.974]
;B[bi]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[bh]WL[121.541]C[jerwin [5k\]: SE is scam, it's saying B is dead on the bottom left. LOL
realgo [5d\]: yuh
Fantleroy [?\]: in japanese rules, without seki , SE should be fine
]
;B[cs]BL[30]OB[1]C[Fantleroy [?\]: at this stage of the game, at least
odnihs [-\]: oh wow
Xorax [2d\]: :O
backflash [8k\]: ko?
jerwin [5k\]: WOW
jerwin [5k\]: xD
realgo [5d\]: what
realgo [5d\]: why would black play there
Fantleroy [?\]: well, he knows he's behind
jerwin [5k\]: I see B doesn't want peace
realgo [5d\]: oh
odnihs [-\]: though i think even with that
realgo [5d\]: yea
Fantleroy [?\]: so ko is better than seki and lose
odnihs [-\]: black doesn't have enough?
odnihs [-\]: even if black wins the ko
Fantleroy [?\]: not sure
realgo [5d\]: if black wins i believe black is leading
Xorax [2d\]: depends what the ko will cost
realgo [5d\]: yea
jerwin [5k\]: well Black is behind so it's all or nothing for him
realgo [5d\]: black has pretty much no ko threats
odnihs [-\]: alex doesn't look like he expected this to say the least
realgo [5d\]: white has a decent amount
Xorax [2d\]: c14
Fantleroy [?\]: it seems that if w just plays dame until the end of the game, he wins by 0.5
Xorax [2d\]: if b take corner points?
Fantleroy [?\]: so, b will have to answer any threat, and even then 
Fantleroy [?\]: yes
]
;W[co]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[as]BL[30]OB[1]C[jerwin [5k\]: here we go
]
;W[gq]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[gp]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bs]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[cf]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bf]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[as]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[nf]WL[30]OW[4]C[realgo [5d\]: white wins this ko i believe
realgo [5d\]: black only has one more threat
realgo [5d\]: which is c13
Xorax [2d\]: new smaller ko
odnihs [-\]: white will get this one or m1
]
;B[mf]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bs]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[cg]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bg]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[as]BL[30]OB[1]C[realgo [5d\]: c13, white m1
realgo [5d\]: black loses ko
]
;W[ks]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[bq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ls]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ms]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[is]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[lr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[js]WL[30]OW[4]C[odnihs [-\]: good try
]
;B[pp]BL[30]OB[1]C[jerwin [5k\]: B wins?
]
;W[ek]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[jf]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[aa]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[gh]BL[30]OB[1]C[realgo [5d\]: se says black wins
realgo [5d\]: idk if se is right
]
;W[]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[]BL[30]OB[1]TW[la][lb][ad][bd][jd][ae][be][af][cf][ag][cg][ah][dh][rh][ai][bi][ci][pi][qi][si][aj][bj][oj][pj][rj][ak][sk][al][jl][ql][sl][jm][km][lm][sm][nn][no][np]TB[fa][ha][ia][pa][qa][ra][sa][fb][pb][qb][rb][sb][hc][pc][sc][gd][fe][me][oe][nf][kg][lg][kh][ji][ki][lj][fp][hp][kp][aq][gq][kq][rq][ar][mr][pr][qr][rr][sr][bs][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[jerwin [5k\]: is this AGA rules?
jerwin [5k\]: WOW
realgo [5d\]: yes aga rules
odnihs [-\]: so black gained about 2 points from the ko
odnihs [-\]: good game both
jerwin [5k\]: GG indeed
realgo [5d\]: dang close game
AlexL2016 [?\]: GG
brightstar [?\]: gg
realgo [5d\]: both played really well
odnihs [-\]: game 2 will be tomorrow at 6 pm ET/3 pm PT
jerwin [5k\]: there's Game 2
odnihs [-\]: yes this is a best-of-3 finals
odnihs [-\]: tune in to the junior division finals game 1 in about 3 hours
])
