(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2700]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[2018 Cotsen Open Round 4 Board 1: Mark Lee vs Andy Liu]PW[Mark Lee]PB[Andy Liu]WR[7d]BR[1p]DT[2018-10-14]EV[2018 Cotsen Open Round 4 Board 1: Mark Lee vs Andy Liu]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AN[Chris Garlock]US[Chris Garlock]
;B[dp]
;W[pd]
;B[dc]
;W[pq]
;B[qo]
;W[qk]
;B[op]
;W[oq]
;B[np]
;W[nq]
;B[mp]
;W[lq]
;B[qd]
;W[qe]
;B[qc]
;W[re]
;B[pc]
;W[od]
;B[oc]
;W[nd]
;B[mc]
;W[ok]
;B[pf]
;W[pe]C[USGO1 [-\]: hey folks, chris garlock here with the expected clash between Andy and Mark, both 3-0
mongo [2k\]: hi chris o/
USGO1 [-\]: photo here: https://twitter.com/theaga/status/1051532451175002112
Nils [3d\]: r16 is so cool!
mendicant [1d\]: huzzah
USGO1 [-\]: they seemed eager to get going, starting while folks were still milling about in the room
USGO1 [-\]: and they played out this opening really fast
Syndical [12k\]: there is no time limit? clocks not moving
mongo [2k\]: :)
Nils [3d\]: guess they cant wait to play their first real opponent in the tournament ;)
mongo [2k\]: we could be here all day
IkeBrawler [4d\]: its a demo board so the times don't move, but they are playing with real clocks irl @Syndical
Syndical [12k\]: gotcha
Nils [3d\]: btw p9 is kinda slow, isnt it?
]
;B[df]
;W[on]C[IkeBrawler [4d\]: sets up this move I guess (:
mongo [2k\]: so andy is b i azoo
mongo [2k\]: m
rsgk [1k\]: P9 looks good to me :)
ptitlou [1d\]: Hi Chris, you're video with Michael Redmond are just amazing material for amateur like me. Thank you both for providing us such interesting and deep analysis.
mongo [2k\]: i guess p9 is the kind of move that could end up good...
mongo [2k\]: or not :(
]
;B[qm]
;W[pm]
;B[ql]C[rsgk [1k\]: I agree wholeheartedly, ptitlou
]
;W[pk]C[mongo [2k\]: now p9 looking better imo..
rsgk [1k\]: p7 as a response was nice
rsgk [1k\]: gonna be an interesting game
]
;B[rq]
;W[pp]C[mongo [2k\]: hmm
mongo [2k\]: cant help feelin this good for w
]
;B[po]
;W[oo]
;B[qr]C[rsgk [1k\]: yeah
mongo [2k\]: but b gettin territoree
mongo [2k\]: of course
rsgk [1k\]: A lot of influence
mongo [2k\]: m4 
]
;W[rp]
;B[qp]
;W[lp]
;B[fq]
;W[qq]
;B[ro]
;W[rr]
;B[sp]C[mongo [2k\]: (ouch)
]
;W[le]C[rsgk [1k\]: obviously b thought it better to enclose
mongo [2k\]: f3 ?
mongo [2k\]: is big
rsgk [1k\]: could easily be 4 b corners lol
]
;B[ki]C[mongo [2k\]: woo
]
;W[lc]
;B[mb]C[USGO1 [-\]: thought y'all would like that one
]
;W[kk]C[rsgk [1k\]: keep ignoring each other's moves
mongo [2k\]: problem is if w moyo doesnt pan out..
]
;B[ck]
;W[ii]
;B[kf]C[USGO1 [-\]: yes they're playing this fast
Xorax [-\]: h15?
rsgk [1k\]: fast play
mongo [2k\]: what would alf do?
rsgk [1k\]: 3-3 probably :P
USGO1 [-\]: latest photo: https://twitter.com/theaga/status/1051536376779366400
rsgk [1k\]: even if they're all taken - it would invent a fifth one
mongo [2k\]: alfa go would never play this w
Xorax [-\]: no fancy board to play on??
mongo [2k\]: b looks more like afla
USGO1 [-\]: sigh, no; all bad choices. next year i'll ask andy okun to bring his nice rable board
rsgk [1k\]: sure, take all the territory
]
;W[ke]C[USGO1 [-\]: table
rsgk [1k\]: go white
mongo [2k\]: you callin andy okun a rabble rouser..
mongo [2k\]: rsgk <- you mean you think w behind?
USGO1 [-\]: here's andy considering how to respond: https://twitter.com/theaga/status/1051537245306466305
USGO1 [-\]: mark has left the table
]
;B[jf]C[rsgk [1k\]: no, not necessarily
Xorax [-\]: well ofcourse if you push him off to take photos :D
mongo [2k\]: b4 
mongo [2k\]: d14 an alfa go move?
gruvik [2k\]: d14 was higky recommended by Go Seigen, and Alpha-go used it a lot
gruvik [2k\]: *highly
rsgk [1k\]: it's not a new move actually, used to be played even before the bots. the bots did make it more popular though
]
;W[lf]
;B[lg]C[mongo [2k\]: but is it sente?
]
;W[mg]
;B[lh]C[rsgk [1k\]: leaves defects around
rsgk [1k\]: but a good territorial move maybe?
]
;W[ik]
;B[mh]C[mongo [2k\]: amassing
]
;W[nh]
;B[ni]
;W[oh]
;B[oi]
;W[pi]C[mongo [2k\]: looks like one of my games :)
cekalo [1d\]: k7
]
;B[jj]
;W[ij]C[cekalo [1d\]: k7 is the winning move
mongo [2k\]: k7 is vacant
]
;B[je]
;W[jh]C[ThiGar [3k\]: why is b n12 better than b o11 directly?
]
;B[kg]
;W[dd]C[mongo [2k\]: more pressure?
cekalo [1d\]: i saw the movie the surrounding game
]
;B[ng]C[cekalo [1d\]: andy was in it
mongo [2k\]: and leave these moves..
playdes [8k?\]: good story cekalo
mongo [2k\]: my go club showed the movie
]
;W[md]C[mongo [2k\]: but i ditnt see it :(
]
;B[cd]
;W[cc]C[mongo [2k\]: o13 and s2 col 
cekalo [1d\]: watch it dude its on youtube
ThiGar [3k\]: yes o13 might be my answer
]
;B[ce]
;W[nc]
;B[nb]
;W[lb]
;B[rd]C[mongo [2k\]: but is it sente?
Nils [3d\]: how is this sente?
mongo [2k\]: :)
rsgk [1k\]: I thought that the saying goes "don't push unless you're going to cut"
mongo [2k\]: s16 big i guess
rsgk [1k\]: o17 i mean
mongo [2k\]: rules are ment to be brokn
ThiGar [3k\]: timesuji?
]
;W[he]
;B[mf]
;W[ph]C[cekalo [1d\]: i think b is dead
rsgk [1k\]: really?
mongo [2k\]: h14 
Raine [3d\]: he needs tobe surrounded to be dead
]
;B[hf]C[mongo [2k\]: hehe
USGO1 [-\]: nice, mongo
ThiGar [3k\]: what makes you think that cekalo?
cekalo [1d\]: the go gods told me
]
;W[gf]
;B[hg]C[ThiGar [3k\]: ha  ha  ha
mongo [2k\]: i still think b behind
mongo [2k\]: w i mean..
occam [1k\]: leela has b at 66%
wuyang [22k?\]: hi my name is Nico
wuyang [22k?\]: yes
mongo [2k\]: ho
mongo [2k\]: hi
Raine [3d\]: Nico Robin?
wuyang [22k?\]: wery kind
wuyang [22k?\]: no 
mongo [2k\]: w needs to pull a rabbit out of a hat
Raine [3d\]: Nicolaus Krueger?
thePope [3k\]: w isnt wearing a hat though
]
;W[gg]
;B[hh]
;W[gh]
;B[hi]
;W[fj]C[wuyang [22k?\]: no nicolas Maximilian Krueger
ThiGar [3k\]: g15?
wuyang [22k?\]: a littlebit like nicolaus Krueger
]
;B[jk]
;W[jl]
;B[kl]
;W[lk]
;B[il]
;W[jm]C[mongo [2k\]: its squirmin time again
]
;B[gk]
;W[gj]
;B[hj]
;W[hk]
;B[im]C[USGO1 [-\]: y'all had this read out, right?
mongo [2k\]: ladder works
mongo [2k\]: i mean doesnt 
mongo [2k\]: :)
USGO1 [-\]: andy's smiling slightly
Jake [1k\]: why not g15?
mongo [2k\]: w g15 now?
USGO1 [-\]: mark's face is buried in his sweatshirt
]
;W[in]C[mongo [2k\]: or b g15 instead?
occam [1k\]: lella has w at 53% now. really didn't like g9 and j7
mongo [2k\]: g15 may come
mongo [2k\]: that cuz leela doesnt read :)
occam [1k\]: maybe its ladder blindness again
szgo [5d\]: leela can see ladders if monte carlo sims are high enough
]
;B[ge]C[Raine [3d\]: i should hope so
mongo [2k\]: g15 kind of excape hatch
cekalo [1d\]: b is gonna die
USGO1 [-\]: mark is counting
mongo [2k\]: l8 leaves aji i guess
Rukis [1k\]: B won't die, white has to many weaknesses
]
;W[fe]
;B[gd]
;W[fd]
;B[gc]
;W[db]
;B[jn]
;W[km]C[Rukis [1k\]: I would h6 here lol
]
;B[hn]
;W[io]
;B[hm]C[mongo [2k\]: end game
Avogadro [4k\]: impressive Rukis
]
;W[gl]
;B[fk]C[Rukis [1k\]: Not sure what the Andys plan is he here but I would definitely try to look to kill this group
]
;W[ek]
;B[fl]C[mongo [2k\]: the 4 stones?
TonyM [7d\]: f7 e8 h5 ?
]
;W[fm]
;B[el]C[mongo [2k\]: that seem to be surroounded
]
;W[ho]C[Rukis [1k\]: Nah, the left
mongo [2k\]: tricky
Warfreak2 [-\]: it's tricky to rock a rhyme, to rock a rhyme that's right on time it's tricky
mongo [2k\]: hip hop
Raine [3d\]: i'm not sure what their plan is, but i would be removing my opponent's stones from the board and also claiming territory
TonyM [7d\]: and g6 is bad because g5 f6 e6 e7 
CatWhite [10k\]: e10
TheThe [4k\]: hardcore
mongo [2k\]: f14 
ThiGar [3k\]: e17
Rukis [1k\]: F14
mongo [2k\]: hey..
mongo [2k\]: i claimed f14
occam [1k\]: leela has g6 f5 bad for b
mongo [2k\]: :)
TheThe [4k\]: g6 then res
Rukis [1k\]: La claims f14 nest
TonyM [7d\]: for me e17 and yolo 
mongo [2k\]: i would lay my eggs there
]
;B[gn]C[occam [1k\]: leela also e17
gruvik [2k\]: oh g6!!
mongo [2k\]: hard not to play here
ThiGar [3k\]: just curious, occam: does one need a powerful gamers pc to run leela?
mongo [2k\]: losing h7 stones would be big 
occam [1k\]: yes, need GPU
occam [1k\]: maybe not the best one
Rukis [1k\]: Obviously rhela cannot read because  Andy   Thinks   this move works
Xorax [-\]: it doesnt work?
ThiGar [3k\]: ok, thx occam
playdes [8k?\]: occam not really... i have it on my raelly bad laptop from like 6 years ago
mongo [2k\]: yeah well its just evaluatiin
occam [1k\]: playdes yes it runs but does not read deep
mongo [2k\]: yeah but dont you set leelas max time to think..
playdes [8k?\]: well you can have it review games
mongo [2k\]: yes, that my point..
playdes [8k?\]: then it can think forever
gruvik [2k\]: f6 g5 f5 ga and w startsa net with d8 no?
Rukis [1k\]: If you set LZ to 5seconds on most computers it will still be high dan
DosinPu [11k\]: d8 and go on..
]
;W[go]
;B[fn]
;W[en]
;B[em]
;W[fo]
;B[gm]
;W[hl]
;B[fm]C[USGO1 [-\]: whew
mongo [2k\]: yoiks
Rukis [1k\]: Ew
mendicant [1d\]: huzzah
Rukis [1k\]: What is this
profan [?\]: double empty triangle in one shape!
mendicant [1d\]: a dumpling for us all
TheThe [4k\]: nuts the next level
occam [1k\]: now e17
Xorax [-\]: d5 ?
mongo [2k\]: only way not to give them up i guess
occam [1k\]: and w is fine
Illyria [?\]: Andy completes the first B2 bomber of the game
]
;W[do]
;B[cm]
;W[cp]
;B[cq]
;W[ep]
;B[dq]C[ThiGar [3k\]: 'B2 bomber', go historians: who came up first with this shape name?
USGO1 [-\]: Andy "Houdini" Liu
]
;W[eq]
;B[er]
;W[dr]C[gruvik [2k\]: i play in kgs since 2006 and already was existing this kibitz name "b2 bomber"
Rukis [1k\]: English speaking people thigar
ThiGar [3k\]: great image
USGO1 [-\]: they're both counting now
]
;B[cr]C[USGO1 [-\]: https://twitter.com/theaga/status/1051547482310631429
Lsugyen [7d?\]: if b is behind he probably would play f2
thePope [3k\]: why didn't he?
Lsugyen [7d?\]: I guess b is feeling confident?
cekalo [1d\]: chris garlick is that you?
Lsugyen [7d?\]: in terms of points b is surely ahead
USGO1 [-\]: yes indeed
]
;W[ec]C[thePope [3k\]: i mean, what's the benefit of c2 compared to f2?
playdes [8k?\]: garlock*
Lsugyen [7d?\]: this move is basically sente
Rukis [1k\]: I think he meant garlock 
]
;B[eg]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: c2 prevents a ko in the corner
cekalo [1d\]: i watch all your reviews with mister redmond
Lsugyen [7d?\]: if b f2 white will c2
USGO1 [-\]: thanks; more on the way!
playdes [8k?\]: yea just like you watch kyu games and tell them to give up and play angry birds
USGO1 [-\]: plus a new series
cekalo [1d\]: awesome
]
;W[fr]C[USGO1 [-\]: Michael Redmond's Encyclopedia of Go
Lsugyen [7d?\]: is b thinking about tenuki?
Lsugyen [7d?\]: cut at f14 is enormous
Lsugyen [7d?\]: d1 and b5 can be treated as miai
rsgk [1k\]: i would cut ^^
]
;B[ff]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: I had my feelings right :)
mongo [2k\]: ya
USGO1 [-\]: andy shaking his head
Lsugyen [7d?\]: b spent time with that move so he's thinking of something other than d1
Rukis [1k\]: What is going on lol
]
;W[es]
;B[bo]C[USGO1 [-\]: both counting
Lsugyen [7d?\]: I think b is comfortably ahead now
Perfexion [1k\]: Who is b and who is w
rsgk [1k\]: it's a pretty big bottom, but still i feel b is ahead
mongo [2k\]: how do you know there counting?
rsgk [1k\]: he's sitting right next to them :)
Lsugyen [7d?\]: I count 90+ for b and less than 80 for w
Lsugyen [7d?\]: it's not hard to tell when somebody is counting
mongo [2k\]: use their fingers?
USGO1 [-\]: andy moves his lips; mark taps his fingers; i've spent a lot of time with these guys
mongo [2k\]: ah the tells :)
Genghis [2k\]: white was expecting a ko in the corner
rsgk [1k\]: is there any way to reduce the left?
rsgk [1k\]: i don't see it really
]
;W[jc]C[Xorax [-\]: maybe he is thinking of k17/t2
lol [2k\]: was f2 better than f14?
mongo [2k\]: c12 and live
]
;B[mj]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: f13 was probably the move
]
;W[mk]C[Perfexion [1k\]: Who is b and who is w
Illyria [?\]: b is andy liu, w is mark lee
Rukis [1k\]: Mark is white
Perfexion [1k\]: Thankyou
]
;B[co]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: c5 is reverse sente
]
;W[ee]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: it's actually huge
Lsugyen [7d?\]: reverse sente 8-9 points or so
Rukis [1k\]: If you click the kgs symbol, look down towards the game you can see the names of the players. White is always put first.
USGO1 [-\]: andy; "hm"
Perfexion [1k\]: I'm on mobile
Rukis [1k\]: Yes and so am i
Lsugyen [7d?\]: is he debating to play B17?
Xorax [-\]: s9?
Lsugyen [7d?\]: is seems possible
gruvik [2k\]: but on twitter pic how can we know who is who?
]
;B[bc]
;W[bb]
;B[bd]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: nailed it again
ThiGar [3k\]: good call Lsugyen
Lsugyen [7d?\]: e15 seems to be another mistake
]
;W[gi]C[mongo [2k\]: hmm
]
;B[ei]C[mongo [2k\]: j16 ?
]
;W[ef]
;B[fg]
;W[dg]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: b+8.5ish
TheThe [4k\]: intense
lol [2k\]: even if this works?
Lsugyen [7d?\]: actually w just gained in this area, so maybe only 6.5 now
Lsugyen [7d?\]: this is just endgame stuff, nothing major
Lsugyen [7d?\]: w gets A17 sente most likely
]
;B[dh]C[lol [2k\]: ah ok
]
;W[cg]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: which is 3 points
]
;B[ch]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: so I guess b leads by 5 points 
]
;W[id]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: I think it should be decisive enough
]
;B[pg]C[cekalo [1d\]: who is winning
Lsugyen [7d?\]: black
Lsugyen [7d?\]: G11 was a good move though
USGO1 [-\]: both are 3-0, so winner almost certainly 2018 cotsen champ
]
;W[sr]
;B[sq]
;W[pr]
;B[rg]C[Xorax [-\]: but how does B handle W c14?
Lsugyen [7d?\]: connect
Lsugyen [7d?\]: oh A17 is a huge move
Lsugyen [7d?\]: w should probably play it soon
]
;W[hb]
;B[gb]
;W[hc]
;B[pl]
;W[ol]
;B[pn]
;W[om]
;B[dn]
;W[bf]C[Perfexion [1k\]: D15
cekalo [1d\]: b just lost the game
Xorax [-\]: well W gotta be careful with his corner
Perfexion [1k\]: No c14
mongo [2k\]: b12 
Lsugyen [7d?\]: the game is a lot closer now than before
Lsugyen [7d?\]: my previous calculation was inaccurate
mongo [2k\]: i guess c14 only
]
;B[cf]
;W[bg]
;B[bh]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: true
]
;W[ac]
;B[be]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: A15
Lsugyen [7d?\]: that was a big mistake for black
Lsugyen [7d?\]: could be the losing move
]
;W[eo]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: wait nevermind
Lsugyen [7d?\]: J15 then F18 seems the biggest
Lsugyen [7d?\]: again it's reverse sente
pschhh: this end game kibitz is really destroying your kibitz-crediility, lsugyen
]
;B[cs]
;W[ma]
;B[oa]
;W[sn]C[mongo [2k\]: haha
Lsugyen [7d?\]: another endgame tesuji that I failed to see
]
;B[rn]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: I think the game is tipping toward w right now
]
;W[rb]C[lol [2k\]: mabey byoyomi
USGO1 [-\]: mark in ot
USGO1 [-\]: andy too
mongo [2k\]: t15 ?
]
;B[qb]
;W[sd]
;B[sc]
;W[se]
;B[ra]
;W[if]
;B[ig]
;W[ie]
;B[ji]
;W[ga]
;B[fb]
;W[eb]
;B[ej]
;W[fa]
;B[fi]
;W[rk]
;B[sl]
;W[rl]
;B[rm]
;W[rh]C[gruvik [2k\]: loks w+5 right?
]
;B[jd]
;W[kd]
;B[oj]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: lol yea
Lsugyen [7d?\]: my initial prediction was way off, but it's okay. I've never been known as the counting guy
]
;W[lj]
;B[pj]C[Perfexion [1k\]: Mark + god-tier yose
occam [1k\]: leela has w at 100%
]
;W[qj]
;B[sh]C[Lsugyen [7d?\]: congratulations to Mark Lee
]
;W[qh]
;B[qg]C[gruvik [2k\]: heehe i did some counting but also im not good. SE agrees with me :P
]
;W[si]
;B[sg]
;W[sk]
;B[sm]
;W[me]
;B[og]
;W[ri]
;B[nk]
;W[nl]C[Epiphany [4k\]: b d1
]
;B[ds]
;W[er]
;B[nf]
;W[ad]
;B[ag]
;W[nj]
;B[mi]
;W[nk]
;B[fh]
;W[hd]
;B[li]
;W[oe]
;B[ae]
;W[ab]
;B[gf]
;W[fc]
;B[af]
;W[de]
;B[ob]
;W[la]C[mongo [2k\]: crazy endgame
]
;B[mg]
;W[ne]C[USGO1 [-\]: black resigns
USGO1 [-\]: whew
USGO1 [-\]: thanks for watching!
playdes [8k?\]: gz Mark!
solidgo [4k\]: ty vm!
gruvik [2k\]: great game i thought b had it
USGO1 [-\]: i'll check on time for next round; prob in about an hour
])
