(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.5.0.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[2011 US Go Congress - North American Masters Tournament - Round 2 Board 4 - ZiYang Hu 1p vs ZhaoNian Chen (Mike) 7d]
PW[ZiYang Hu]WR[1p]
PB[ZhaoNian Chen (Mike)]BR[7d]RO[2]
DT[2011-08-02]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
RE[W+Resign]
US[Solomon Smilack]
RU[AGA]ST[2]
TM[1800.0]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
C[USGO5 [-\]: Welcome to the AGA E-Journal's live coverage of the 2011 North American Masters tournament at the US Go Congress in Santa Barbara, CA.  This is round 2, board 4.  I'm Solomon Smilack, your game recorder this evening.
USGO5 [-\]: This game is essentially a rematch of the game Mike and Ziyang played this morning. Ziyang won that game.


USGO4 [-\]: Welcome to today’s live commentary by Ryo Maeda 6P.
USGO4 [-\]: This game was played in the North American Masters Tournament last night between Zhaonian (Mike) Chen and new young pro ZiYang Hu 1P.
leachy [3k\]: i guess the tournament is "open"
USGO4 [-\]: This is Chris Garlock, transcribing; please feel free to ask any questions of Maeda-san
]
;B[pd]
C[leachy [3k\]: wow
];W[dq];B[qp];W[dd];B[oq]
(;W[qf]
C[NoirNoir: zchen is american
USGO4 [-\]: that's why this has become more popular these days
ikewa [9k\]: no audio comments?
USGO4 [-\]: no audi
]
;B[qi]
(;W[nd]
C[ikewa [9k\]: pitty
USGO4 [-\]: Hu seems to like this; he played it in today's game as well (board 2)
]
;B[pf];W[qc];B[pc]
(;W[pg]
C[USGO4 [-\]: again, same as in today's game
Denniskutl [2d\]: r15 now?
USGO4 [-\]: difficult; so many choices
]
;B[qe];W[of];B[pe];W[rg];B[og];W[ph];B[nf];W[re];B[rd];W[pi];B[oe]
C[Timk [2k\]: ok.
];W[nb]
C[USGO5 [-\]: Ziyang is 13 years old - he's wearing a Barcelona FC jersey.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: YEAHHHHHH go zchen!
USGO4 [-\]: ok locally, about even to here, but w has a good direction
leachy [3k\]: black should defend first?
Timk [2k\]: usgo4, not B, not W pust stone at t15 / t16 ?
Timk [2k\]: why ?
USGO4 [-\]: u mean why not atari?
Timk [2k\]: y, 
]
(;B[jc]
C[USGO4 [-\]: this is a good move
USGO4 [-\]: so better to attack first
]
(;W[ke];B[ob]
C[USGO4 [-\]: now b protects
USGO4 [-\]: (again; feel free to ask question as we go along)
]
(;W[qk]
C[USGO4 [-\]: good point, but w has a weak group on top
];B[je]
C[cugel [1k\]: what happened ??
cugel [1k\]: w looks in trouble
cugel [1k\]: he aim really at S17 ?
igoAggie [3k\]: I thought this was only for North Americans and that ZChen lives in China. Am I mistaken?
leachy [3k\]: ok
]
;W[jd]
C[USGO4 [-\]: TESUJI
];B[id]
C[xDragon [-\]: funny you should mention that
];W[kd]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: since when did zchen live in china
cugel [1k\]: this b zchen ?
xDragon [-\]: he was born in china but he lives in NA now
xDragon [-\]: w is a new pro from china i think
cugel [1k\]: cool
]
;B[ic]
C[USGO5 [-\]: Yes black is KGS zchen
lose100 [1k\]: how is w eligible?
]
;W[kg]
C[kerf [2k\]: someone said earlier w is living in canada now
Timk [2k\]: k15 seems to be very active
]
;B[kc]
C[Z0mbies [6k\]: nice goooo Canada!
];W[lc]
C[lose100 [1k\]: studying under the captain?
igoAggie [3k\]: Is zchen in the states?
xDragon [-\]: lose dont start that crap plz
trilobyte [?\]: zchen graduated from Princeton this year
kerf [2k\]: i doubt that 4d teaches 1p
]
;B[fc];W[ec];B[fd];W[cf]
(;B[qm]
C[CBlue [1d?\]: life on board of captain's ship is tough for w
USGO4 [-\]: what do you think: is this a good move or not?
tt [2d\]: no
leachy [3k\]: elsewhere more urgent
kris [7k\]: i like it
puripuri [5k\]: its ok
HoTing [1d\]: zchen???
doubt [-\]: it feels good, but i think i would have wanted to j12 instead.
ikewa [9k\]: not really good
leachy [3k\]: like shimari bottom left
USGO4 [-\]: maeda-san doesn't like it
ikewa [9k\]: in case of q17
USGO4 [-\]: here's why
leachy [3k\]: *kakari
USGO4 [-\]: the white group is strong
kris [7k\]: who is maeda-san ?
USGO4 [-\]: so this is ok (maeda-san very flexible!)
]
(;W[fb]
C[CBlue [1d?\]: he better get a grip
];B[gb]
C[lose100 [1k\]: w had very impressive game against HYang yesterday.
USGO5 [-\]: Yesterday ZiYang beat Huiren Yang 1p by about 10 points, I think.
maher140 [4k\]: yeah, his game yesterday was nice
USGO4 [-\]: this exchange is too early
]
;W[co];B[qj]
C[USGO4 [-\]: this is what b was aiming at
USGO4 [-\]: but there's a problem; it doesn't work
USGO4 [-\]: overplay
]
;W[pk];B[pj];W[oj];B[rk];W[rl];B[rj]
C[kerf [2k\]: I hope that someone took a photo of hyang vs. zyhu, it would probably make a nice publicity shot
]
;W[ql];B[ok];W[ol];B[nk]
C[DarkScythe [3d\]: yes, USGO commented f18 is too early
];W[ni];B[rm]
C[igoAggie [3k\]: its probably just my kyu reading skills, but this looks like bad news for b
USGO5 [-\]: Can any dan players read out black's aim here?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: get big thickness
Warfreak2 [4d\]: like 20 point corner trick
igoAggie [3k\]: facing the bottom right, you mean?
]
;W[sl]
C[hikaru567 [2d\]: throwing stones down with hopes something good will turn out
Warfreak2 [4d\]: seems doesn't work anyway
gomaster2 [1d\]: black is going to make magic happen
USGO5 [-\]: Will black take q5 now for thickness or do something with the o9 stone? Or something else?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: q7 mandatory
USGO5 [-\]: err yes
USGO5 [-\]: I just like the number 5.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: you would
]
;B[nl]
C[USGO5 [-\]: Apparently not mandatory if you are 7d
Warfreak2 [4d\]: only winning is mandatory for zchen
ikewa [9k\]: but b could ignor f18 and play tenuki
leachy [3k\]: yeah
]
;W[om];B[nm];W[on];B[nn];W[oo]
C[igoAggie [3k\]: This went a strange direction
hippocamp [3k\]: Wouldn't W play o8 if B played q7 ?
hippocamp [3k\]: ah, nevermind
Warfreak2 [4d\]: s12 has something for b i think
xDragon [-\]: going for larger scle influence i guess
]
;B[pl];W[pm];B[no]
C[ikewa [9k\]: interesting
Warfreak2 [4d\]: also n11 is nice for b
];W[qo]
C[xDragon [-\]: b plays on botom now?
igoAggie [3k\]: a move around j4 ish area is becoming pretty big
Warfreak2 [4d\]: too close
igoAggie [3k\]: yeah, i can never tell
igoAggie [3k\]: what would be better?
igoAggie [3k\]: g4 ?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i'd go h4
Warfreak2 [4d\]: maybe g4
xDragon [-\]: yea i owuldnt have guessed where to play on bottom
xDragon [-\]: like h4 bettter than g4
]
;B[mi]
C[xDragon [-\]: hes really going for that influence
USGO5 [-\]: Warfreak called this one a couple moves ago.
Timk [2k\]: was it played ?
]
;W[mh];B[nh];W[li];B[mj]
C[Timk [2k\]: r5 - tesuji ?
];W[rh]TR[qi][pj][qj][rj][rk]
C[USGO5 [-\]: Can black cut m16 now? would he want to?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: m16 just gets squeezed
smonds1 [3k\]: seems like N15 natural response to that, small no?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: m16 m15 n16 n15 n17 n18 m18 o17 m17 o15 
ikewa [9k\]: yes
DarkScythe [3d\]: f18 too big to ignore, otherwise Black loses his base
leachy [3k\]: you mean g18 darkscythe
USGO4 [-\]: so now of course b's stones are dead
DarkScythe [3d\]: well I mean if b ignores f18
USGO4 [-\]: but b got a big outside wall; but this exchange is a bit better for w
leachy [3k\]: yeah but he helped b stabilize his group
ikewa [9k\]: i think too so
USGO4 [-\]: upon reflection, maeda-san says this is an even exchange
]
;B[ro];W[pp];B[qq];W[pq];B[pr];W[op]
C[igoAggie [3k\]: m17?
igoAggie [3k\]: that stone is already there
];B[nq]
;W[qr]
C[evanj [3d\]: not by that point in the sequence it's not
];B[or]
C[igoAggie [3k\]: Oh, I see
smonds1 [3k\]: so , black is giving lots of cash
ikewa [9k\]: ok
]
;W[qn]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: :-o
smonds1 [3k\]: did S2 not work for W?
ikewa [9k\]: onemove back
]
;B[rn]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: r6?
];W[rr];B[po];W[pn]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: s4 seemed right
evanj [3d\]: yes it did
Warfreak2 [4d\]: oh, b is captured
SixtyNine [1d\]: mis read
lockelaton [3k\]: q6 mistake?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's still ok
smonds1 [3k\]: white is fine
Warfreak2 [4d\]: s4 t7 t3 t2 r1 
smonds1 [3k\]: o3 now sente for B
smonds1 [3k\]: nvm...
lockelaton [3k\]: i think w die
Warfreak2 [4d\]: hahaha, white s3 wins that way
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w killed b
lockelaton [3k\]: w s4?
smonds1 [3k\]: yea, white win, but black planning bigger?
lockelaton [3k\]: lol
Warfreak2 [4d\]: apparently i should not try to read at 4AM
]
;B[rp]
C[fgfg [1k\]: b s4?
];W[ri]LB[ep:A][fp:B][gp:D][hp:F][eq:H][fq:C][gq:E][hq:G]
C[TheFuture [9k\]: t 7 sente too... so might as well right?
brooklyn [3d\]: did w just steal sente?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes, and o4 not b sente
lockelaton [3k\]: >.<
lockelaton [3k\]: small for w but big for b
sankojingz [1k\]: it's zchen!
SixtyNine [1d\]: darkmage
leachy [3k\]: @ikewa: go options -> view offline if you want to scroll through at your leisure
ikewa [9k\]: sorry
leachy [3k\]: e3 also possible?
leachy [3k\]: nvm not good
Timk [2k\]: e4 to avoid being put at 3rd line ?
USGO4 [-\]: these are all the possibilities for B's extension
USGO4 [-\]: but A is not good because it's undercut too easily by a white crawl on the 3rd line
USGO4 [-\]: so this is really an extension, just a question of how far
leachy [3k\]: attach and crosscut is problem with B?
ikewa [9k\]: b should play something  what were good for c9 or so?
kris [7k\]: E : G3 i 'd play
USGO4 [-\]: B and D are very similar but B is too close to the shimari
ikewa [9k\]: d g4
Zorba [5d\]: e4 seems fine
Zorba [5d\]: g3
Zorba [5d\]: sorry
Zorba [5d\]: E choice
kris [7k\]: =)
USGO4 [-\]: we've been joined by jennis shen
USGO4 [-\]: jennie
USGO4 [-\]: they're discussing a sign here n the EJ room that says "Rafu Kiin"
Hawkeye [9k\]: Sorry I sure this has been said, but scolled off the comments. Who is doing the commentary? 
Theehero [9k\]: E seems low
USGO4 [-\]: from the old rafu kiin club, which closed a few years ago
USGO4 [-\]: maeda ryo and jennie shen
Hawkeye [9k\]: thanks
]
(;B[gq]TR[qr][rr]
C[fgfg [1k\]: h4?
maynerd [9d?\]: t3
leachy [3k\]: i'd go D....E seems white can pressure from above and there is large framework left side
kris [7k\]: undercut with tsuke ?
ikewa [9k\]: b losing so much there
USGO4 [-\]: here's the problem
USGO4 [-\]: b has not killed the 2 white stones cleanly
]
(;W[hp]
C[USGO5 [-\]: 1k > 9d?
rbasdf: guessing moves doesn't mean anything
ikewa [9k\]: so E))
leachy [3k\]: but the left side is pretty open
]
;B[gp];W[ho];B[hq];W[jp];B[iq]
C[USGO5 [-\]: Unless you guess pro move all the time.
TheFuture [9k\]: does t3 even work...? what does white do if b s3 right after?
]
;W[jm]
C[evanj [3d\]: w then plays t4 and begins whistling
];B[ji]
C[TheFuture [9k\]: b t2 then
Kuwabara [2d\]: j15
Warfreak2 [4d\]: t3 s3 t2 
evanj [3d\]: yes of course
]
;W[mg]
C[bloodninja [?\]: t3 r1?
USGO4 [-\]: b attacks both sides
];B[me];W[md]
C[Kirlim [3k\]: just for curiosity, what would white answer localy if black played j6?
Kuwabara [2d\]: t10
]
;B[le];W[ld]LB[rc:A]
(;B[kf]TR[kg][mg][mh][li]
C[USGO4 [-\]: jennis says wow
USGO4 [-\]: "I don't like this"
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i didn't get it at all
USGO4 [-\]: maeda neither
USGO4 [-\]: b doesn't want to capture the 4 stones; too small
USGO4 [-\]: this makes things easy for w
]
;W[jf];B[lf];W[ie]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: i think because of w r18
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b owes a move to protect corner
USGO4 [-\]: trade; b gets 4 stones and w gets a ponnuki
]
;B[jg]
C[Kuwabara [2d\]: j6?
];W[ig];B[jh]
C[Kuwabara [2d\]: k6 of course
Kirlim [3k\]: I see. Thx
USGO4 [-\]: just too small; and in gote
ikewa [9k\]: g5 now?
]
;W[gf]LB[eb:A]
C[USGO4 [-\]: this makes the w connection at A sente and huge
ikewa [9k\]: but g5
Littleman [4k\]: what if b plays A
USGO4 [-\]: lots of cash when w connects
]
;B[fn]TR[eb];W[gm];B[fm];W[gl];B[fl];W[gk];B[cm];W[go];B[fo];W[ep];B[cp]
;W[cq]
C[USGO5 [-\]: ZiYang is playing fast, and appears to have either read out these moves
USGO5 [-\]: or is just insanely familiar with them.
]
;B[il]
C[ikewa [9k\]: hm
];W[im];B[ip];W[io];B[kn];W[ko];B[jn]LB[fp:A]
C[USGO4 [-\]: b doesn't want to connect ion gote
];W[jo]
C[USGO5 [-\]: Mike double-clutched k6, hovering the stone over the board and taking it back before finally putting it down.
USGO5 [-\]: Now he seems to be reading through possibilities at f4 and L3
]
;B[kq];W[fk];B[dj]
C[moonscar [-\]: Oh cool, ( just got here)
];W[jk];B[ik];W[ij];B[jj];W[hj]
;B[jl];W[oh];B[ng];W[eb]
C[go4fun2010 [3k\]: w has enough territory
USGO4 [-\]: w got the big cash move
]
;B[hg]
C[USGO4 [-\]: nice sense, but dangerous
USGO4 [-\]: b is behind, so he can't just answer
]
;W[ih]
C[vegmandu [3d\]: Go Zchen it has to be hard to play pro.
Damage: black is zchen
Damage: ?
SSBMeta [11k\]: yes
]
(;B[hf];W[if];B[he]
C[vegmandu [3d\]: who is hu.
];W[hh]
C[vegmandu [3d\]: anyone know him/her?
];B[mb]
C[USGO5 [-\]: He is a 13yr old 1p from China.
USGO4 [-\]: this is attacking
]
;W[lb]
C[SSBMeta [11k\]: and zchen is 14 right?
USGO5 [-\]: Mike is 22 or so I think.
sankojingz [1k\]: zchen is over 21
SSBMeta [11k\]: oh
SSBMeta [11k\]: i guess i confused him w/ someone else
QualityDr [10k?\]: kghin, perhaps
SSBMeta [11k\]: probably
QualityDr [10k?\]: They play a lot on here. Against each other.
SSBMeta [11k\]: yeah i think i've seen their games
ikewa [9k\]: w has j19 now
USGO4 [-\]: also, this is bad exchange as it hurts b's group on the left
]
;B[cg]
C[sankojingz [1k\]: kg beats zchen mostly
USGO4 [-\]: but this is not attacking
ikewa [9k\]: ))
]
;W[dg]
C[QualityDr [10k?\]: Haven't looked over their head-to-head...
sankojingz [1k\]: b in danger
njs2 [1k\]: hm whos winning
]
;B[ch];W[gg]
C[USGO5 [-\]: ZiYang played this immediately.
];B[ge]
C[USGO4 [-\]: they're discussing whether this group has any chance at all
ikewa [9k\]: j17?
USGO4 [-\]: there is some aji on the outside
]
;W[hb]
C[secureid [7k\]: who is USGO5 pls?
]
(;B[ga];W[hc]
C[sankojingz [1k\]: b dead
njs2 [1k\]: i know hu
njs2 [1k\]: he kilss
sankojingz [1k\]: n18 makes no sense
secureid [7k\]: who is hu? he is hu
NotTengen [4k\]: b can j18?
USGO5 [-\]: Welcome to the AGA E-Journal's live coverage of the 2011 North American Masters tournament at the US Go Congress in Santa Barbara, CA.  This is round 2, board 4.  I'm Solomon Smilack, your game recorder this evening.
secureid [7k\]: thx USGO5
QualityDr [10k?\]: Thanks for your diligent relay work, Solomon!
USGO5 [-\]: kgs Soromon
USGO5 [-\]: I play bad.
Amikael [12k?\]: he does the job
QualityDr [10k?\]: But high-dan on relay!
USGO5 [-\]: Too much blitz!
QualityDr [10k?\]: Teehee!
USGO5 [-\]: Any way out for black?
sankojingz [1k\]: sure dead
]
;B[de];W[ce]
C[hippocamp [3k\]: I read nuclear tesuji
NotTengen [4k\]: what does w do if b j18?
]
;B[ia]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: g17 h16 k19, i thought
Warfreak2 [4d\]: oh, w would k18
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if b j18, w g17 h19 k19
]
;W[hd]
C[secureid [7k\]: f15 kills
];B[ff];W[fg]
C[NotTengen [4k\]: ok thanks war 
Glistening [9k\]: dude
Glistening [9k\]: deadness
]
;B[ed]
C[Glistening [9k\]: nice try michael chen
];W[cc]
C[Glistening [9k\]: you know what to do
Glistening [9k\]: ziyang hu
Warfreak2 [4d\]: you know what you doing
brooklyn [3d\]: finish the mayner in style
Warfreak2 [4d\]: move zig
brooklyn [3d\]: *maynerd
vegmandu [3d\]: g17?
minimum [9k\]: l18?
USGO5 [-\]: I was unlucky enough to be maynerd's first opponent on KGS :(
Warfreak2 [4d\]: unlucky!
vegmandu [3d\]: :( zchen die
USGO5 [-\]: I got eaten.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: and you didn't have to pay
maynerd [9d?\]: no kidding
maynerd [9d?\]: ?
USGO5 [-\]: It's true. If we play again you have to give me 7 more stones than you did last time.
USGO5 [-\]: Can black make seki here?
gofun [-\]: top b's group dead
Imp20 [3k\]: b g17 is seki
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no
vegmandu [3d\]: no it isn't
Imp20 [3k\]: how does w stop it?
Imp20 [3k\]: oh i see nvm
Warfreak2 [4d\]: you need two liberties for every chain in seki
minimum [9k\]: why not l18?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: h19 is one. k18 needs another, so does f16
USGO5 [-\]: One liberty at g16 and one liberty at j18?
NotTengen [4k\]: l18 l19 k19 j18 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: so that would give white three liberties
Mimiru [5d\]: black is cut at h 16.  there u go, seki
Warfreak2 [4d\]: doesn't sound like seki to me
Mimiru [5d\]: i mean not seki
Warfreak2 [4d\]: l18 is best way for b to suicide directly
]
;B[ef]
C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: l18 j18 and you are captured
];W[df]
C[SixtyNine [1d\]: black lost
sankojingz [1k\]: time to find steps down rseign
]
(;B[ha]
C[secureid [7k\]: poor b - had to play w twice today :)
];W[kb]
C[vegmandu [3d\]: really did z chen play hu earlier?
go4fun2010 [3k\]: over
secureid [7k\]: b does not have enough territory if this is seki
USGO5 [-\]: They played this morning in the US Open
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it is not seki
vegmandu [3d\]: what was the result?
Mimiru [5d\]: yeah not seki
secureid [7k\]: b lost :(
vegmandu [3d\]: how/
vegmandu [3d\]: ?
Mimiru [5d\]: k 18 l 19 k 19 g 17
USGO5 [-\]: Let me see if the game is linked in the crosstabs...
vegmandu [3d\]: by resign or was it countable.
sankojingz [1k\]: n18 kills b
Amikael [12k?\]: and if black play j18
Vash3G [-\]: the game is not in the crosstabs
Mimiru [5d\]: j 18 suicide
Amikael [12k?\]: ok thx
Warfreak2 [4d\]: k18 l19 e15 g16 
secureid [7k\]: it's not fair to pair b with w twice in a day
USGO5 [-\]: They were on board 5
USGO5 [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/102
whataburga: who won?
USGO5 [-\]: W+Resign
vegmandu [3d\]: zchen lost that game aswell.
EpicPhail [1k\]: they played twice a day?
USGO5 [-\]: This one is over now too, I mean.
secureid [7k\]: there will be third game between w & b ? :)
]
)
(;B[ib]
C[ikewa [9k\]: and res?
];W[kb];B[ee];W[gd];B[fe];W[gc];B[ha];W[hc]
C[USGO4 [-\]: ok, that's it
tinytim: ova
ikewa [9k\]: thx
Zorba [5d\]: ty
tinytim: ova la?
CBT [1k\]: ty
tt [2d\]: is c13 the losing move?
USGO4 [-\]: ok, jennie shen will take a quick look at an opening
]
))
(;B[hc];W[ga];B[gc];W[ib];B[ha];W[ia];B[de]
(;W[ce];B[ed];W[cc];B[ff];W[fg];B[ef]
C[USGO4 [-\]: yay!
])
(;W[ee];B[ed]
(;W[cd];B[fa];W[ea];B[jb];W[fa];B[ja];W[ha];B[dc];W[db];B[cc];W[cb];B[bc]
;W[bb];B[ce];W[bd];B[be];W[ac];B[ef]
C[USGO4 [-\]: not working for w
ikewa [9k\]: not the best
])
(;W[cc]
C[USGO4 [-\]: they're studying whether this works
USGO4 [-\]: lots of aji but looks like b will still die
USGO4 [-\]: lesson is that you must read these sort of problems out, whether you're trying to kill or to live
]
;B[ef];W[df]))))
(;B[ii]
C[USGO4 [-\]: this seems better
USGO4 [-\]: normal
];W[hi];B[hh];W[if];B[fh]
(;W[kk];B[kh];W[kl])
(;W[fg]
C[USGO4 [-\]: w has time to kosumi first
USGO4 [-\]: b's attack has a good sense but it's not severe
USGO4 [-\]: w just has too man resources
USGO4 [-\]: many
USGO4 [-\]: b has no choice though;
USGO4 [-\]: normal moves will leave b behind
]
)))
(;B[aa];W[rc];B[se];W[sf]
C[USGO4 [-\]: b maybe worried about this ko but actually it's very heavy for w too, as if he loses, the 
]
)
(;B[jf];W[kf];B[ih]
C[USGO4 [-\]: thr right side group
USGO4 [-\]: black has to fight like this
]
;W[qb];B[se];W[rf]
(;B[qd];W[pb])
(;B[pb];W[qd];B[rb];W[rc];B[sc]
C[USGO4 [-\]: this ko is like for w, heavy for b
USGO4 [-\]: b is prob worried about this
USGO4 [-\]: w's ok locally
]
)))
(;W[np];B[mp];W[mq]
C[leachy [3k\]: lol
]
(;B[lp])
(;B[lq];W[mr];B[lr];W[rq]
C[ikewa [9k\]: oh oh
leachy [3k\]: not much territory to be gained at bottom after all
kris [7k\]: t7 !
IFailHard [12k\]: t7 t10...
USGO4 [-\]: it would be better to sacrifice the b group on the right
USGO4 [-\]: but w might not want to play this now
USGO4 [-\]: sacrificing is better than crawling on the 2nd line
USGO4 [-\]: both pros agree
]
(;B[sq];W[sr]
C[Timk [2k\]: painfull
];B[sp];W[sm])
(;B[qs];W[rs]
(;B[ps];W[nr]
C[USGO4 [-\]: oops
])
(;B[sq];W[ps];B[os]
C[Timk [2k\]: ko ?
USGO4 [-\]: it's not a clear kill for w; just an annoying ko
ikewa [9k\]: t4
]
)))
(;B[mr]
C[USGO4 [-\]: so b must play here
];W[lq];B[lr];W[kq]
C[kris [7k\]: T7 and R10 is save
]))
(;W[rq];B[qs]
C[USGO4 [-\]: this way, b is fine
];W[rs]
C[Timk [2k\]: throw-in?
];B[ps]
C[USGO4 [-\]: locally w dies
]))
(;B[jp];W[hp];B[jn];W[hn])
(;B[gp]
(;W[ip];B[hn])
(;W[gr]
C[USGO4 [-\]: the high and low stones each have a weakness; the low can be pushed down, the high can be undercut
]
))
(;B[ep];W[eq]
C[ikewa [9k\]: not to greedy?
])
(;B[fp]))
(;W[co]
C[USGO4 [-\]: the exchange in the game just strengthened b
]))
(;B[co]
C[USGO4 [-\]: so play another side
]))
(;W[id]
C[USGO4 [-\]: I'd pl;ay here
USGO4 [-\]: this feels more normal
];B[qk]))
(;W[qd]
C[leachy [3k\]: ok
];B[se];W[rf];B[qb];W[rc];B[kf]
C[USGO4 [-\]: uh oh
sasa264 [12k\]: =)
USGO4 [-\]: and b has a ko at t17
]
))
(;B[se];W[pb]
C[USGO4 [-\]: too early
])
(;B[ob]
C[USGO4 [-\]: this would be better
leachy [3k\]: yes
];W[jc]
C[USGO4 [-\]: w's stones are working well together
])
(;B[jp];W[qd];B[rc];W[qb];B[rb];W[pb]
C[USGO4 [-\]: b can't capture stones now
]))
(;W[qd];B[pe]
C[USGO4 [-\]: normal moves are  here
];W[qe]))
(;W[qc];B[qd];W[pc]
C[USGO4 [-\]: this is the normal move
];B[od];W[rd];B[re];W[rc];B[qe];W[nc]
))
(;W[qj]
C[USGO4 [-\]: this was popular 5 years ago
];B[qh];W[qm];B[pl];W[ql];B[pj]
C[USGO4 [-\]: pros don' like this for w; too good for b
];W[pk];B[ok];W[qk]
;B[pi]
C[USGO4 [-\]: b makes a big moyo
];W[ol];B[nk];W[jc]
C[USGO4 [-\]: very good point
];B[om]
C[USGO4 [-\]: but this is too serious a follow-up
];W[pm];B[nm];W[ro];B[ip]
C[USGO4 [-\]: too good for b
]))

