(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.5.0.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[Fairy2009-GMD-cherrysaur-cjheaven-1]
PW[Fairy2009,GMD]WR[4d]
PB[cherrysaur,cjheaven]
EV[Online Pair Go Tounament]RO[2]
DT[2011-06-12]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
RE[B+Time]
RU[AGA]ST[2]
TM[3600.0]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
C[Online Pair Go Round 2
KGS
W: Yinli Wang (Fairy2009) and Yuan Zhou (GMD) 
B: Cherry Shen (cherrysaur) and Curtis Tang (cjheaven) 
]
;B[pd]BL[3592.5]
C[cherrysaur [-\]: Hi 
];W[dp]WL[3595.9]
C[cjheaven [8d\]: gg
];B[pq]BL[3587.6]
C[GMD [-\]: gg
Fairy2009 [4d?\]: Hi, everyone.
];W[dc]WL[3565.7];B[fq]BL[3582.3]
;W[po]WL[3563.1];B[qo]BL[3575.4];W[qn]WL[3550.2];B[qp]BL[3568.8];W[nc]WL[3538.0]
;B[qg]BL[3548.7];W[cn]WL[3437.3];B[pn]BL[3530.6];W[qm]WL[3434.8];B[on]BL[3526.7]
;W[qj]WL[3432.3];B[ip]BL[3495.9];W[di]WL[3356.5];B[pc]BL[3487.5];W[kd]WL[3346.5]
C[kali2 [6k?\]: isnt it really easy to cheat in rengo online?
];B[de]BL[3307.8]
;W[fd]WL[3343.4];B[fe]BL[3283.6]
C[sheeryjay [1k\]: theoretically yes (but so it is easy to cheat in normal games) ... but it would be against our go players honor to do so, We may hear of chess players cheating but go players are supposed to not do that ;)
kali2 [6k?\]: my sense of honor pales in comparison to the desire of winning :D
]
;W[ee]WL[3184.2]
C[msyrver [1d\]: Is there a prize for this tournament?
];B[ef]BL[3104.8]
;W[ed]WL[3179.0]
C[kali2 [6k?\]: this looks quite bad for black
sheeryjay [1k\]: kali2, then your fundamentals must obviously be weak and you should go back and build them up from scratch together with including the strong belief that "go player must be honorable"
sheeryjay [1k\]: :)
]
;B[cg]BL[3025.8]
C[lyt [5k\]: go's just one game. . . one should honor their honor with everything
]
;W[mo]WL[3046.0]
C[measwel [?\]: darn they take a long time
measwel [?\]: or am I lagging?
]
;B[mm]BL[2842.8]
C[lyt [5k\]: its real
];W[ko]WL[2995.8];B[cc]BL[2828.2];W[ff]WL[2963.4];B[eg]
BL[2755.4];W[oo]WL[2789.1];B[pl]BL[2743.9];W[nn]WL[2705.9];B[nm]BL[2669.4]
;W[ql]WL[2698.4]
C[ManInMe [5k\]: rengo takes time
];B[db]BL[2640.1];W[ge]WL[2564.3];B[pk]
BL[2595.6];W[pj]WL[2536.9];B[ln]BL[2570.8];W[lo]WL[2497.6];B[jn]BL[2540.2]
;W[oq]WL[2487.8];B[op]BL[2518.5];W[np]WL[2346.7];B[pp]BL[2512.1];W[no]WL[2314.2]
;B[or]BL[2507.4]
C[Bazoldi [8k\]: Can someone explain why play O5 ? Those stones don't seem important
pel [-\]: without those stones black is connected and white in even more trouble
Bazoldi [8k\]: Connected ? But none of his groups are his danger are they ?
Bazoldi [8k\]: And w could have lived locally without O5
sheeryjay [1k\]: that is why you are 8k ;)  .. misjudging strengths of groups :)
]
;W[jp]WL[2009.0];B[iq]BL[2412.7]
C[pel [-\]: neither of whites groups  in the bottom right corner are perticulary safe
measwel [?\]: seems like an understatement
seikenguy [1d\]: So painful.
edenchen [4k\]: ah
measwel [?\]: maybe m7 can do something
measwel [?\]: activates p7 cut?
pel [-\]: measewel, it is ^^
edenchen [4k\]: p7 q7 p8 p9 o8 n9 
measwel [?\]: n9, but if m7 is there...
measwel [?\]: then n8 would be atari
measwel [?\]: its hard to read it though
edenchen [4k\]: I know but there is not a m7
measwel [?\]: w could play it now
measwel [?\]: hmmm hard to read all the variations though
edenchen [4k\]: resign w
edenchen [4k\]: b+r
seikenguy [1d\]: k3 
seikenguy [1d\]: But I danno how w can live
edenchen [4k\]: k3 m2 
st21 [-\]: o5 strange
]
;W[io]WL[1521.4]
C[edenchen [4k\]: j5 is wierds
seikenguy [1d\]: No
edenchen [4k\]: wierd*
seikenguy [1d\]: It's interesting
seikenguy [1d\]: Makes stuff possible
edenchen [4k\]: I guess so
]
;B[oj]BL[2340.8]
C[seikenguy [1d\]: But I think it doesn't work well enough
edenchen [4k\]: lol
edenchen [4k\]: b is crazy
athenus [6k\]: why not connect?
]
;W[jo]WL[1471.1]
C[athenus [6k\]: cut i mean
seikenguy [1d\]: B let off too easy?
edenchen [4k\]: ya
]
;B[oi]BL[2278.9];W[rh]WL[1444.7];B[rg]BL[2265.8];W[qh]WL[1376.8]
C[edenchen [4k\]: b lost
];B[ph]BL[2148.6]
C[athenus [6k\]: explain please
];W[ro]WL[1321.1];B[rp]BL[2141.8]
C[power [4k\]: I think both are ok
power [4k\]: may be black a bit more ok :)
edenchen [4k\]: no
power [4k\]: yes
edenchen [4k\]: b is not strong
edenchen [4k\]: maybe it looks like it
edenchen [4k\]: but not strong
power [4k\]: you look like not strong
edenchen [4k\]: b has cutting places everywere
]
;W[sn]WL[1184.8];B[sh]BL[2108.7]
C[edenchen [4k\]: w m10 
];W[ri]WL[1137.1]
C[power [4k\]: m10 idiot move
edenchen [4k\]: what?!
Pitt: +1
edenchen [4k\]: oh my gosh
]
;B[dr]BL[2082.8]
C[edenchen [4k\]: explain please! 
Tallis13 [20k\]: indeed
];W[cd]WL[1111.2]
C[edenchen [4k\]: power!
power [4k\]: what m10 should do?
edenchen [4k\]: tell me why
]
;B[dd]BL[2062.8];W[ec]WL[1110.2]
C[edenchen [4k\]: to make b's territory less
ddUsopp [5k\]: m10 substitute himself under attack
]
;B[bc]BL[2049.4]
C[edenchen [4k\]: nhow
edenchen [4k\]: how
edenchen [4k\]: b can not kill w in anyway
ddUsopp [5k\]: now b have weak moyo
edenchen [4k\]: I know
power [4k\]: edenchen, put [4k\] badge back
edenchen [4k\]: so to make the moyyo gone
edenchen [4k\]: moyo
ddUsopp [5k\]: after m10 black's moyo and position will being stronger
edenchen [4k\]: lol
edenchen [4k\]: then b will not have any moyo!
]
;W[cq]WL[1015.3]
C[edenchen [4k\]: where is the moyo?
Elitios [5k?\]: hey, moyo isn't territory ^^
edenchen [4k\]: so what
edenchen [4k\]: moyo means alot of territory
Elitios [5k?\]: loool
DJPeter [-\]: --'
power [4k\]: weak troll
edenchen [4k\]: I'm not trolling?
edenchen [4k\]: well
edenchen [4k\]: I say I'm not trolling
edenchen [4k\]: I'm saying w should go there
]
;B[fo]BL[1955.4];W[ch]WL[1009.6];B[ce]BL[1942.1]
C[MeSSed [7k\]: the word troll has lost most meaning cuz its used so much :p
power [4k\]: only troll can say this
power [4k\]: troll or idiot
edenchen [4k\]: power
edenchen [4k\]: stop being mean
Elitios [5k?\]: stop being stupid
Bazoldi [8k\]: Or just someone that don't know the exact meaning of moyo... No need to insult
edenchen [4k\]: why am I being stupid
power [4k\]: cause your parents was drunk...
power [4k\]: about 14 yrs ago
edenchen [4k\]: what?
]
;W[jq]WL[926.2]
C[edenchen [4k\]: your parents are drunk
Elitios [5k?\]: hey let's forget it and focus on the game
]
;B[ir]BL[1896.9]
C[ddUsopp [5k\]: b will attack white's wear group (m10 ) with up, and after attacking m10, black pass on upper wihte's group. Total: at best, white escaped or survived, substituting under attack from its top the group and strengthening the black
gurujeet [6k\]: could we please take the personal insults elsewhere...this is not the place
]
;W[kn]WL[888.6];B[cj]BL[1882.8];W[bg]WL[861.8]
C[edenchen [4k\]: hey ddusopp
edenchen [4k\]: hey power
];B[bf]BL[1788.1]
C[edenchen [4k\]: lets clone this game and see
];W[ek]WL[785.1]
C[power [4k\]: its more easier to ignore you
edenchen [4k\]: power!
];B[cl]
BL[1764.3]
C[ddUsopp [5k\]: edenchen try to listen to what we say and to dismantle the party if you want it so.
]
;W[dm]WL[677.2];B[bh]BL[1731.1]
C[edenchen [4k\]: but why should I litsen to a wrong thing
];W[cr]WL[622.9]
;B[ne]BL[1698.9];W[dg]WL[506.1];B[ag]BL[1683.9];W[gp]WL[430.8];B[gq]BL[1645.5]
C[Elitios [5k?\]: isn't t10 working for b?
];W[hp]WL[388.5]
C[akko888 [14k?\]: t10 s10
Elitios [5k?\]: s10 and w is dead I think
];B[fp]
BL[1512.3];W[er]WL[351.9];B[jr]BL[1491.9]
C[ddUsopp [5k\]: no
];W[kr]WL[342.4]
C[akko888 [14k?\]: t10 s10 r9 s9 and then a miai i believe
];B[fr]BL[1449.6]
;W[ds]WL[326.4];B[gn]BL[1441.4]
C[juan502 [20k\]: SE
juan502 [20k\]: THAT
juan502 [20k\]: O3
juan502 [20k\]: IS
juan502 [20k\]: IN 
juan502 [20k\]: ATARI
MeSSed [7k\]: congrats, you solved a 30k problem :D
]
;W[ho]WL[235.3]
C[Elitios [5k?\]: yeah you may be right it might not kill. But still sente reduction looks good to me. Perhaps for later
]
;B[lr]BL[1420.1]
C[lithograph [3k\]: is this team go?
];W[kq]WL[163.1]
C[GoUniverse [6k\]: Oui
];B[ks]BL[1400.7];W[js]WL[131.2];B[is]BL[1357.9]
;W[mr]WL[110.4];B[gl]BL[1354.7];W[hm]WL[84.4];B[fk]BL[1271.7];W[dk]WL[30.0]
OW[5];B[ik]BL[1246.6];W[jl]WL[30.0]OW[5];B[jk]BL[1213.0];W[kk]WL[30.0]OW[5]
C[bstone [2d\]: l7
];B[kj]BL[1150.0];W[kl]WL[30.0]OW[5]
C[GoMaruko [24k?\]: team go ? how ?
];B[fh]BL[1027.7]
C[GMD [-\]: ?
Vezga [4k\]: ?
];W[hl]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[hk]BL[1020.7];W[lj]WL[30.0]
OW[2];B[li]BL[992.0];W[fj]WL[30.0]OW[2]
C[GoMaruko [24k?\]: each turn they switch player ?
];B[fm]BL[968.5];W[gj]
WL[30.0]OW[2]
C[GoMaruko [24k?\]: i never see team go match . . . just want to know what is
]
;B[gk]BL[940.2]
C[Hotaru1993 [3k\]: each player made a move in his turn
Hotaru1993 [3k\]: thats all
]
;W[ck]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[bk]BL[932.0];W[en]WL[30.0]OW[2]
C[Elitios [5k?\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?PairGo
];B[fn]BL[900.1];W[bj]WL[30.0]
OW[2];B[lq]BL[866.9];W[lp]WL[30.0]OW[2]
C[GoMaruko [24k?\]: ty
feamed [5d\]: .
];B[bi]BL[791.1];W[nr]WL[30.0]OW[2]
;B[bm]BL[782.1];W[em]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[ji]BL[645.5];W[qr]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[nq]
BL[630.1];W[mq]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[rn]BL[515.0];W[rm]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[rr]BL[513.2]
;W[rs]WL[30.0]OW[2]
C[uqx [12k?\]: cjheaven is much stronger than cherrysaur?
Vezga [4k\]: 2 handi
Elitios [5k?\]: ko?
kcharris12 [1k\]: ignoring is 35 points, i would play t4
coolbabe [5d\]: can we talk?
coolbabe [5d\]: about the game
kcharris12 [1k\]: can they read in rengo?
zen [1d\]: no
feamed [5d\]: sure, they cant see the chat here
coolbabe [5d\]: r3 ba
coolbabe [5d\]: maybe they can see
uqx [12k?\]: This is a looong think.
]
;B[qq]BL[125.2];W[kh]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[sr]BL[80.1];W[ki]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[jj]
BL[77.1]
C[kcharris12 [1k\]: t2?
uqx [12k?\]: ! looks like black didn't think r3 was enough!
]
;W[nk]WL[30.0]OW[2]
C[kcharris12 [1k\]: b has at least seki
];B[mj]BL[50.1];W[lk]WL[30.0]OW[2]
;B[jh]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[mi]WL[30.0]OW[2]
C[kcharris12 [1k\]: had*
];B[lh]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[kg]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[dl]BL[30.0]
OB[5];W[el]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[hh]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[ok]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[nj]BL[30.0]
OB[5];W[mk]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[lc]BL[30.0]OB[5]
C[kcharris12 [1k\]: d14 c11 if your wondering
];W[md]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[ld]
BL[30.0]OB[5];W[me]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[ke]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[jd]WL[30.0]OW[2];B[le]
BL[30.0]OB[5]
C[Vezga [4k\]: bad...
];W[mf]WL[30.0]OW[1];B[mh]BL[30.0]OB[5];W[lg]WL[30.0]
OW[1]
C[kcharris12 [1k\]: nice
];B[je]BL[30.0]OB[5]
C[Divine [4d\]: o12
];W[id]WL[30.0]OW[1];B[ie]BL[30.0]OB[5]
C[uqx [12k?\]: B could N12?
];W[he]WL[30.0]OW[1]
C[kcharris12 [1k\]: he doesnt want to 
kcharris12 [1k\]: yet anyway
ddUsopp [5k\]: j14 
uqx [12k?\]: it does stop o12 though?
]
;B[hd]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[kb]WL[30.0]OW[1]
C[black99 [8k\]: h16 for?
];B[kc]BL[30.0]OB[4]
C[titowed [8k\]: future invasion
];W[jb]WL[30.0]OW[1];B[jc]BL[30.0]OB[4]
C[kcharris12 [1k\]: oops
black99 [8k\]: L18 a mistake?
];W[ic]WL[30.0]OW[1]
;B[lb]BL[30.0]OB[4];W[hc]WL[30.0]OW[1]
C[uqx [12k?\]: couldn't black have played J18 instead of M18?
];B[mg]BL[30.0]
OB[4]
C[uqx [12k?\]: J18, then H17 H18 G17 M18?
];W[nh]WL[30.0]OW[1]
C[titowed [8k\]: i would play j18 indeed but I´m justo 8k :p
];B[ng]BL[30.0]
OB[4];W[lf]WL[30.0]OW[1]
C[Pitt: M18 => no connection for N16 group i guess
kcharris12 [1k\]: i wouldve too but i didnt read what would happen after
black99 [8k\]: k15 fragile group
titowed [8k\]: yeah probably m18 was to kill n15 groyp
]
;B[nf]BL[30.0]OB[3];W[na]WL[30.0]OW[1];B[mb]BL[30.0]OB[3]
C[Vezga [4k\]: plop
yakito [1k\]: k13 ?
GMD [-\]: thx
cjheaven [8d\]: thx
cherrysaur [-\]: thank you for the game
black99 [8k\]: lol
cherrysaur [-\]: i have to go now 
cherrysaur [-\]: bye
]
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