(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.5.0.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[DC-Baltimore N.A. Ing Masters Qualifier]
PW[Yuan Zhou]WR[7d]
PB[Justin Teng]BR[4d]
EV[DC-Baltimore N.A. Ing Masters Qualifier]RO[1]
DT[2011-06-17]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[7.5]
RE[W+R]
US[Chris Garlock]
RU[AGA]ST[2]
TM[2700.0]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
C[DC-Baltimore N.A. Ing Masters Qualifier
June 17, 2011
Greater Washington Go Club, Bethesda, MD
Broadcast live on KGS
W: Yuan Zhou 7d
B: Justin Teng 4d
Published in the June 21, 2011 edition of the American Go E-Journal]
;B[dp];W[pp];B[dc];W[oc]
C[LinkWind [1k\]: yep
LinkWind [1k\]: first
yorugua [11k\]: thanks for the heads up Java
yuuubeiiii [5k?\]: whats awesome about that?
clossius [-\]: This is real time right? So black is thinking a bit on this move?
]
;B[qd];W[ce]
C[yorugua [11k\]: I assume it's been relayed, so there may be some delay
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, live, real time
clossius [-\]: sweet
yorugua [11k\]: ohh, ok
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to Round 1 of this weekend’s DC-Baltimore N.A. Ing Masters Qualifier, brought to you by the American Go E-Journal. I’m Chris Garlock, Managing Editor of the E-Journal and your broadcaster tonight.
USGO1 [-\]: 6 top players are competing: Yuan Zhou 7d; Daniel Chou 7d; Juan Pablo Quizon 5d; Keith Arnold 4d; Justin Teng 4d; Zhengying Gu 5d
clossius [-\]: Elo Chris
]
;B[fd]
C[USGO1 [-\]: Tonight’s games are being held in the Cedar Lane Unitarian Church in Bethesda, MD; more details at http://ngol.us/New.html 
neroun: will all game on KGS tonight?
USGO1 [-\]: Just Board 1
neroun: see, thx
USGO1 [-\]: Keith Arnold (W) is playing Daniel Chou on Board 2
yorugua [11k\]: are you going to broadcast rounds 2-4 tomorrow?
Proffffff [7k?\]: Is Yuan playing on kgs? 
neroun: who's with Gu? pls.
USGO1 [-\]: Depends if we can find someone to broadcast the games
USGO1 [-\]: Gu's waiting for Juan Pablo to show
neroun: haha, thx
]
;W[pg]
C[neroun: so bad I cann't make it tonight
USGO1 [-\]: small crowd gathered here to watch games
goandy [4k\]: it's slow
USGO1 [-\]: could play rated games but prefer to watch these games
Javaness [3d\]: White's opening looks odd
clossius [-\]: it's not slow, this is what "normaly" games are supposed to be like
clossius [-\]: normal*
USGO1 [-\]: JP just showed up on Board 3
eatramen [8k\]: the best "american" players are always asian lol
DangoMango [2k?\]: it's only odd coz you dont know it
goandy [4k\]: yeah it's odd
Javaness [3d\]: P16 seems reasonable
neroun: w style to lower level is try to trick them, not odd 
Javaness [3d\]: aim to pincer Q13
DangoMango [2k?\]: best players are always asians
USGO1 [-\]: guesses on B's move?
eatramen [8k\]: yes 
clossius [-\]: I would want sente to go back to left
neroun: if b chicken, w will win quickly
eatramen [8k\]: @dango
Javaness [3d\]: I bet he didn't play F3
TheDuke [2d\]: Third board having trouble opening the bowls.
]
;B[pe];W[md]
C[DangoMango [2k?\]: @eatramen: it could change but it's hard to compete with billions of ppl in asia
xmas11: is a bit painful
]
;B[pc];W[od]
C[neroun: b should play at q-16 to make b in two parts
clossius [-\]: ?
clossius [-\]: no
ying888 [18k\]: why would b make b in two parts?
neroun: now who get h17 be good
]
;B[pb]
C[DangoMango [2k?\]: h17 is small compared to q18
Javaness [3d\]: super solid
neroun: because now b would be toally covered inside or loose h17 attack on b
]
;W[hc]
C[neroun: w will do sth around h or j17
neroun: see
neroun: i know zhou's style
Javaness [3d\]: ;-)
neroun: b will do c-16
SirRobin [6k\]: how is ?
neroun: first then
Javaness [3d\]: H17 feels like a dirty overplay
n00bpWnr [5k\]: one too far?
clossius [-\]: it does, but making it an overplay when a 7d is white makes it scary =P
neroun: e-14 or chicken at f-18
robotosan: be a man k17 
Imp20 [3k\]: is there a web feed of the first board?
neroun: h17 greedy but w stronger than b so he does it anyway
Javaness [3d\]: P14 is vaguely tempting
clossius [-\]: I want p-14 and l-16 xD
DangoMango [2k?\]: why does it take a man to play a move?
clossius [-\]: it's a difficult move
neroun: teng improving quick recently
clossius [-\]: c-16 maybe?
neroun: has to c-16 first
neroun: then f-18 solid
clossius [-\]: f-18 feels slow
neroun: w need defense, so b got sente on side attack first
Hollumber [2k\]: yay!!  i just got here, right on time :D
Kiril [3k\]: k17h15j15c17? 
n00bpWnr [5k\]: spacebar?
USGO1 [-\]: Teng is really concentrating on this move
Mezzanyne [8k\]: american go? awesome!
neroun: or w e-17 hard to deal
neroun: it's important time at begining
clossius [-\]: I want to c-16 and test white's response
floatcloud [2d\]: is there any strong usa players that is not asian? 
clossius [-\]: Me
mmmbop [?\]: ?
Kiril [3k\]: any comments from pros?
neroun: lots
ummjhall [15k\]: michael redmond..
Mezzanyne [8k\]: Me!
Javaness [3d\]: there are a fair few 7d
Mezzanyne [8k\]: (well, soon to be me)
Imp20 [3k\]: Micheal Redmond
neroun: well b shouldn't be wast time for c-16
Kiril [3k\]: This is 7d and 4d pro ranking right?
neroun: first sense
floatcloud [2d\]: still michael redmond? what is he 60 now?
yorugua [11k\]: no, amateur
clossius [-\]: these are amatures I believe
Mezzanyne [8k\]: how long has justin been on this move?
dirtymove [2k\]: good move
Kiril [3k\]: I suppose 7d and 4d are not KGS ranking...?
yorugua [11k\]: AGA
clossius [-\]: aga rating most likely
neroun: justin is about kgs 4dan
Mezzanyne [8k\]: they'd be AGA ranking
YangXu [4d\]: black is 4d kgs
neroun: zhou lost a kgs 6dan recently
Javaness [3d\]: I have the feeling I played black at a congress
mmmbop [?\]: what's the correct move..
USGO1 [-\]: Teng has reached for a stone several times and thought better of it
neroun: so still zhong better than justin
clossius [-\]: lol
n00bpWnr [5k\]: I like the dramatic narration USGO :)
Hollumber [2k\]: hmm....how do they come up with the moves on the right?
floatcloud [2d\]: seems to me, unlike europe, there is not many young native americans like this game
YangXu [4d\]: why are they playing on a friday? was the tournament on a friday?
neroun: here no choice for b, need do c-16
Hollumber [2k\]: did they seriously memroize the joseki? or did they read it out?
USGO1 [-\]: made his move; guesses where?
clossius [-\]: c-16
Hollumber [2k\]: c16
n00bpWnr [5k\]: L17
kevinc [15k?\]: tengen!
neroun: k-17?
ying888 [18k\]: c16
clydesdale [2k\]: c16
Javaness [3d\]: R6
claytor [7k\]: k17
neroun: fighting is at K-17
Hollumber [2k\]: lol java, u would
Imp20 [3k\]: and why are they playing so late
YangXu [4d\]: yeah, i wonder too lol
Imp20 [3k\]: isn't it like 8 there
yorugua [11k\]: late? it's 8pm
neroun: but risky, not sure
Mezzanyne [8k\]: c13?
Imp20 [3k\]: yeah but didn't the tournament like start in the morning?
yorugua [11k\]: it's a work day today
neroun: come on chris :)
n00bpWnr [5k\]: don't leave us hanging!
TheDuke [2d\]: C13
Javaness [3d\]: K17 or resign
Imp20 [3k\]: lol Java... on the 15th move?
Mezzanyne [8k\]: eh, k17 looks too dangerous for my taste
Mezzanyne [8k\]: c13
neroun: K-17=4dan level, c-16=7dn leveal :)
Hollumber [2k\]: so....US, u gonna play?
yorugua [11k\]: what's the 11k move? :)
clossius [-\]: I highly curious xD
n00bpWnr [5k\]: c16 no good
Achiles [4k\]: what is m17
Imp20 [3k\]: 11k move is tenuki
yorugua [11k\]: lol
Mezzanyne [8k\]: 11k would be g17
Redjoker [4d\]: is this a pro game?
clossius [-\]: tenuki is pro move, 11k is g-17
neroun: noobpwnr, ur level won't like k-17
Imp20 [3k\]: no not a pro game
neroun: or c-17
perreo [5k?\]: L17
eatramen [8k\]: as an 8k what gives you the right to pick on a 11k Mezza
ummjhall [15k\]: 15k is j16
n00bpWnr [5k\]: no, c16 seem ajikeshi
neroun: this is not pro game at all
Hollumber [2k\]: tenuki is bot move, g17 is ddk move, c16 is pro move, k17 is a fighter's move
Ged [1k\]: j16 would be a disaster
Mezzanyne [8k\]: because I'm an AGA 6k :P
mmmbop [?\]: didnt he already play the move..?
yorugua [11k\]: interesting, before you guys started commenting I did thinkg G17 :)
neroun: but zhou is pretty much near pro level i guess sometimes
mmmbop [?\]: why is it not being shown
Imp20 [3k\]: well c16 will settle blacks group
eatramen [8k\]: wow AGA 6k, so strong, so far from 11k
Imp20 [3k\]: but it gives w chance to fix shape
neroun: g-17=9K level
eatramen [8k\]: >.>
perreo [5k?\]: ...
lakidazkal [8k\]: h16?
Mezzanyne [8k\]: actually yes, yes it is far from 11k
TheDuke [2d\]: The signals in here are bad.
clossius [-\]: O.O@
yorugua [11k\]: aww
perreo [5k?\]: omg
clossius [-\]: !
claytor [7k\]: hahah
Hollumber [2k\]: prob. dc
ying888 [18k\]: Huh?
neroun: one of them resigned?
dirtymove [2k\]: b resigned, this move was too good
kevinc [15k?\]: he should have just clicked when he had the chance
eatramen [8k\]: you guys r idiots
Imp20 [3k\]: Get a better connection dang it
Proffffff [7k?\]: lol
Imp20 [3k\]: lol
kevinc [15k?\]: that's what they get for hosting it in maryland
ying888 [18k\]: b resigned?
Imp20 [3k\]: no
Kiril [3k\]: b resigned? you kidding
ummjhall [15k\]: b moved already
Imp20 [3k\]: host just disconnected
Ged [1k\]: how does maryland have anything to do with it?
Ged [1k\]: is it the slow connection state?
Imp20 [3k\]: because they have crappy wifi?
kevinc [15k?\]: in the dream world of my failed jokes, yes
ummjhall [15k\]: thats the state motto
Saturne67 [6k\]: USGO1 is going to sleep
Ged [1k\]: nice
n00bpWnr [5k\]: dying to know the move
TheDuke [2d\]: We are in the basement of a church.
clydesdale [2k\]: he's gone
Ged [1k\]: the move is probably standard joseki
Mezzanyne [8k\]: I'm sure its just a connection problem
ummjhall [15k\]: well theduke can apparently fill us in
Mezzanyne [8k\]: theduke, what was the move?
TheDuke [2d\]: Below tons of concrete
neroun: zwarm, do you know what should be played on next?
Ged [1k\]: d13?
TheDuke [2d\]: C13
Ged [1k\]: just off
Mezzanyne [8k\]: YEAH!!!! I WAS RIGHT
Ged [1k\]: I like to play it high
TheDuke [2d\]: And some more moves.
Mezzanyne [8k\]: HAAAAAAAAAA
Mezzanyne [8k\]: thank you.
TheDuke [2d\]: White ducked into corner
perreo [5k?\]: USGO1 troll us
TheDuke [2d\]: Black settled quickly.
ummjhall [15k\]: lol
Imp20 [3k\]: yup lol
TheDuke [2d\]: Now c13 is in some danger
Mezzanyne [8k\]: (do you know if USGO is trying to reconnect?)
TheDuke [2d\]: He is, but having trouble.
kevinc [15k?\]: this is like a radio show now. neat
Kiril [3k\]: lend him your connection :)
n00bpWnr [5k\]: yah Duke, let USGO use your computer, take one for the team
TheDuke [2d\]: On ansroid
floatcloud [2d\]: it seems this game is not catching on in north american, after all these years, unlike the situation in europe
TheDuke [2d\]: Black is trying l16
Mezzanyne [8k\]: noo! you're pleasent
Mezzanyne [8k\]: I like it :(
TheDuke [2d\]: White thinking hard
Mezzanyne [8k\]: and I'm north american :P
Mefanol [1k?\]: Ohhhh, is this play by play via chat?
ying888 [18k\]: did b move yet
floatcloud [2d\]: it's sad to see, for me personally
TheDuke [2d\]: 2nd board player is recording his game on his etch sketch
Mezzanyne [8k\]: I would imagine w would submit to that
Imp20 [3k\]: go reboot USGO1's computer dang it
CBlue [1d?\]: mh, game on hold due to technical trouble?
xoffiy [6k\]: no they are playing just relaying it to us (duke is apparently nearby)
TheDuke [2d\]: I will relay as best as I can
Mefanol [1k?\]: Recording a go game via etch a sketch would be a pain
Saturne67 [6k\]: it is Duke's fault
Imp20 [3k\]: can't you just host it TheDuke lol
Mefanol [1k?\]: Think about what happens during a ko
TheDuke [2d\]: Nope, sorry...limited battery.
Imp20 [3k\]: no outlets nearby?
TheDuke [2d\]: Third board looks like a big fight brewing.
Mefanol [1k?\]: Wait, is this tournament in baltimore?
Imp20 [3k\]: MD
n00bpWnr [5k\]: fisticuffs?
USGO1 [-\]: Apologies; wireless in basement is very funky
TheDuke [2d\]: DC
ummjhall [15k\]: ...
Mezzanyne [8k\]: scuffle?
Mefanol [1k?\]: Nuts, I probably could have gone
]
;B[cg];W[cc];B[cb]
C[TheDuke [2d\]: Th
];W[dd];B[ec]
C[TheDuke [2d\]: There we go.
];W[ef];B[ge];W[dh];B[kd];W[ng]
C[Imp20 [3k\]: yay
n00bpWnr [5k\]: interesting
ummjhall [15k\]: this is exactly the sequence i predicted
n00bpWnr [5k\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: if the wireless goes down again, hang in there, we'll keep recording offline until we can get back on and catch the game up
USGO1 [-\]: someday wireless will be everywhere and reliable...
Mezzanyne [8k\]: just like in real life
veryclose [?\]: the day we all have tumours
Mefanol [1k?\]: Thanks usgo for working through the problems!
n00bpWnr [5k\]: someday AGA tournaments will be played in ballrooms instead of basements
mindfield [-\]: or at least in places with a network cable
TheDuke [2d\]: Thats go congress
ummjhall [15k\]: the go world could use a bit more glamour
Mezzanyne [8k\]: AGA tournaments are pretty crappy in terms of locations...
Mezzanyne [8k\]: although the one at princeton was fairly good ^^
perreo [5k?\]: black got trolled
veryclose [?\]: jeez everyones a critiz
ummjhall [15k\]: we just want recognition!
TheDuke [2d\]: 2nd board looks like about 75 moves in
mmmbop [?\]: there's no way to rewind these games, is there?
a3443ra [1d\]: clone it
Mefanol [1k?\]: View offline
verystoned [?\]: you can clone
k0n0 [?\]: options/view offline
a3443ra [1d\]: you can do that if you don't have the client
Javaness [3d\]: White's got some potential there now
TheDuke [2d\]: Black at 26 minutes, white at 38 minutes.
mmmbop [?\]: ah, thanks^^
USGO1 [-\]: Bet you'll never guess B move
USGO1 [-\]: TheDuke can't guess
ummjhall [15k\]: k1
Mefanol [1k?\]: Pass?
TheDuke [2d\]: Oh darn!
Imp20 [3k\]: Q9
ummjhall [15k\]: i was gonna say q10 maybe
USGO1 [-\]: hint: upper side fight
ummjhall [15k\]: r13
WWSD [1d\]: o14
Bogin [-\]: o15
Wazato [4d?\]: m16 xd
Mefanol [1k?\]: K17?
USGO1 [-\]: close
]
;B[jd]
C[USGO1 [-\]: real move
WWSD [1d\]: haha
ummjhall [15k\]: wow
Imp20 [3k\]: wow
]
;W[cn]
C[mmmbop [?\]: i like this move..
sachris [?\]: Subtle, yet blatant.
FangFa [1d\]: looks slow
ummjhall [15k\]: ah darn, i have to leave
FangFa [1d\]: still opening
Wazato [4d?\]: i'd have j16 at least :p
ummjhall [15k\]: laterrr
Kiril [3k\]: what is correct response to p14?
]
;B[dk]
C[Wazato [4d?\]: there's no correct response
sachris [?\]: Tenuki?
Wazato [4d?\]: a lot of possible ways
]
;W[en]
C[FangFa [1d\]: can n12 to stay light
Kiril [3k\]: well the ones I see allow to cut white...
Mefanol [1k?\]: No right way...but many wrong ways (=
mmmbop [?\]: play on side or corner?
]
;B[fq]
C[Javaness [3d\]: feels like 24hr rapture
];W[ci]
C[Wazato [4d?\]: well i thought b c12 was quite sente
Javaness [3d\]: how would you answer R11
Mefanol [1k?\]: Carefully
Javaness [3d\]: clever lad
Imp20 [3k\]: I think i would bump r11 with r12
Mefanol [1k?\]: I'm just kidding, I would do out recklessly...these players on the other hand
]
;B[bk]
C[Mefanol [1k?\]: Do it*
Wazato [4d?\]: yes why not smthg like r11 r12 q11 q8 , but the problem is b can still cut w on p14 or so
Imp20 [3k\]: well b can still cut right now... 
TheDuke [2d\]: 2nd board ik looking a little violent.
Wazato [4d?\]: yes but now w can answer differently
]
;W[cl]
C[Wazato [4d?\]: b stones look quite heavy
Imp20 [3k\]: this board looks bad for b...
n00bpWnr [5k\]: that's point of C8 move yes?
Wazato [4d?\]: sure
n00bpWnr [5k\]: make b heavy and chase?
Wazato [4d?\]: i think c12 was really important
Kiril [3k\]: ills eye possibilities...
Wazato [4d?\]: maybe f3 was overplay idk
Mefanol [1k?\]: Who are the players here?
WangYao [3d\]: it's written.
TheDuke [2d\]: Yuan zhou vs justin teng at board 1
n00bpWnr [5k\]: not on phone client...  W Yuan Zhoi 7d, B Justin Teng 4d
Mefanol [1k?\]: Not for phones /=
TheDuke [2d\]: Keith arnold vs daniel chou at board 2
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to Round 1 of this weekend’s DC-Baltimore N.A. Ing Masters Qualifier, brought to you by the American Go E-Journal. I’m Chris Garlock, Managing Editor of the E-Journal and your broadcaster tonight.
Mefanol [1k?\]: Ah thanks
USGO1 [-\]: 6 top players are competing: Yuan Zhou 7d; Daniel Chou 7d; Juan Pablo Quizon 5d; Keith Arnold 4d; Justin Teng 4d; Zhengying Gu 5d
Uberdude [4d?\]: b9 wrong
Uberdude [4d?\]: should run out
Kiril [3k\]: why I only see one board in active games?
Uberdude [4d?\]: probably putting in d7 first
USGO1 [-\]: 6 top players are competing: Yuan Zhou 7d VS Justin Teng 4d; Daniel Chou 7d VS Keith Arnold 4d; Juan Pablo Quizon 5d VS Zhengying Gu 5d
USGO1 [-\]: Tonight’s games are being held in the Cedar Lane Unitarian Church in Bethesda, MD; more details at http://ngol.us/New.html 
Imp20 [3k\]: they aren't broadcasting all the boards
TheDuke [2d\]: Juan pablo quizon vs zhenging gu at board 3
Uberdude [4d?\]: i think k16 is bad
Kiril [3k\]: where can I find other ones?
Uberdude [4d?\]: but just cos it looks silly doesn't mean its bad
TheDuke [2d\]: Only one game is being broadcasted.
Uberdude [4d?\]: compare to move 84 here http://gogameguru.com/commentary-baoxiang-bai-hironori-hirata-32nd-wagc-2011/
]
;B[dg]
C[Uberdude [4d?\]: younggil praised hirata 8d's similar move
];W[eg]
C[TheDuke [2d\]: White pushes up his glasses before playing a move.
USGO1 [-\]: Winner of this Qualifier gets a seat in the North American Ing Masters, which will be held at the 2011 U.S. Go Congress in San Diego, CA
lakidazkal [8k\]: i thought it was in santa barbara
Mefanol [1k?\]: Santa barbara, no?
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, sorry, SB. not SD
TheDuke [2d\]: Black at 15 minutes, white at 33 minutes
TheDuke [2d\]: White stood up, left the room.
USGO1 [-\]: details at http://www.usgo.org
TheDuke [2d\]: Escaper ;)
Saturne67 [6k\]: byo yomi?
Saturne67 [6k\]: how much?
USGO1 [-\]: 5x.50
TheDuke [2d\]: 5 minu
USGO1 [-\]: 5x.60
Saturne67 [6k\]: ok thx
TheDuke [2d\]: White returned.
Uberdude [4d?\]: loadsa time
Wazato [4d?\]: how can i explore the different ways Uberdude?
Uberdude [4d?\]: i once won a game in 40 moves in 3 mins canadian
USGO1 [-\]: ominous thunder outside
Uberdude [4d?\]: on the gogameguru review?
Wazato [4d?\]: yes
TheDuke [2d\]: Black looks like he is struggling.
Uberdude [4d?\]: click the 1 2 on the board
]
;B[bi]
C[mindfield [-\]: if he thinks he's struggling now, wait until W F9
Wazato [4d?\]: ah k thx :)
Uberdude [4d?\]: Wazato, also you can download sgf with butotn at bottom
Uberdude [4d?\]: and then use cgoban or whatever
]
;W[ck]
C[Uberdude [4d?\]: black's already lost this game
Wazato [4d?\]: oh cool
Uberdude [4d?\]: white tenukid the e6 group
Uberdude [4d?\]: it should be weak
Uberdude [4d?\]: now it is strong
Imp20 [3k\]: because of b9
lakidazkal [8k\]: small group tho
lakidazkal [8k\]: fornow
TheDuke [2d\]: Third board looks like a battle of moyos.
Uberdude [4d?\]: strength of groups is very imprortant
Imp20 [3k\]: the b stones on the left don't even look alive
Uberdude [4d?\]: if e6 was weak
Uberdude [4d?\]: b can get something on lower side
Uberdude [4d?\]: and hard for w to invade at c3
Uberdude [4d?\]: now w has a free rein
lakidazkal [8k\]: hopefully black can find leverage in his mistakes
Wazato [4d?\]: anyway this looks quite awful for b
Uberdude [4d?\]: imp, even if they live that's not great
TheDuke [2d\]: Black now at 9 minutes.
TheDuke [2d\]: White with half hour.
Uberdude [4d?\]: c10 d10 b10 e9 c12 d11 b14 
Imp20 [3k\]: well yeah I know.. but if they die... its even worse...
F525 [4k\]: What's the byo-yomi?
F525 [4k\]: 5x30?
TheDuke [2d\]: 5x1min
F525 [4k\]: Thanks.
Uberdude [4d?\]: then w has sente, for h3 perhaps
Uberdude [4d?\]: what is b tihnking about? c10 only move
F525 [4k\]: C10 is terribad, no?
Uberdude [4d?\]: no, c10 is best move now
F525 [4k\]: No I mean,
F525 [4k\]: even if it is the only move, it seems so horribly bad.
lakidazkal [8k\]: d10 might be better at this point
Uberdude [4d?\]: no way
F525 [4k\]: B will get an uber-small life in gote at best with C10, no?
lakidazkal [8k\]: they appear dead
Suphyph [7k?\]: whats it called... zugzwang?
Uberdude [4d?\]: anything other than c10 is much worse than c10
Kiril [3k\]: what is response to b16?
Hollumber [2k\]: why is black thinking?
TheDuke [2d\]: Black will suffer with time trouble.
Imp20 [3k\]: maybe he is thinking about res
Hollumber [2k\]: yes, black is just losing everywhere
Uberdude [4d?\]: so that he can;t use his time when he has hard moves to think about i guess
Uberdude [4d?\]: maybe he's a masochist
lakidazkal [8k\]: b15 maybe
Hollumber [2k\]: actually, uber, that's a reasonable strategy
Hollumber [2k\]: since when he loses, he can blame the clock ^^
Hollumber [2k\]: i might adopt that strategy
yorugua [11k\]: that's a very common excuse chess players use too, even among some pros
Hollumber [2k\]: *jeopardy theme plays*
Wazato [4d?\]: b is wondering if he sould resign? :o
lakidazkal [8k\]: maybe he likes byo yomi
Hollumber [2k\]: he's not going to resign now....
Imp20 [3k\]: Uberdude... your sequence earlier... does w have to play e9? couldn't w play b14?
Wazato [4d?\]: i'm joking
Uberdude [4d?\]: maybe he could
Wazato [4d?\]: lakidazkal is right, maybe he just like blitz^^
Hollumber [2k\]: but, resignation would be appropriate, imho
Hollumber [2k\]: just...it's sooo early
Wazato [4d?\]: even if he could, he could learn a bit by continuing? =)
Suphyph [7k?\]: some people do well under pressure.
Hollumber [2k\]: yet, it seems to me that he's losing already
Uberdude [4d?\]: seems to kill locally, but bad aji on outside
Imp20 [3k\]: maybe b has a strong yose
yorugua [11k\]: grrr
F525 [4k\]: He escaped!
Imp20 [3k\]: and can make up like 20 pts in the end game
Hollumber [2k\]: ah, it might be just connection problems
TheDuke [2d\]: Bad signals here.
Saturne67 [6k\]: where?
Wazato [4d?\]: killing looks like an overplay
Wazato [4d?\]: if he can, idk
Uberdude [4d?\]: no need to kill
Wazato [4d?\]: yes
TheDuke [2d\]: Black tenukied from hil group on left.
Uberdude [4d?\]: just play the thick game
Wazato [4d?\]: really?
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry; wireless dropped again
]
;B[bc];W[bf];B[qn];W[ql];B[qq];W[qp];B[pq]
C[pppp2008 [1k\]: ?
Wazato [4d?\]: i see
];W[op];B[rp];W[ro];B[rq];W[qo]
;B[nq]
C[TheDuke [2d\]: Black now at 5 minutes
USGO1 [-\]: caught up, sports fans
]
;W[cq]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: looks pretty dead? why kill is overplay?
Kiril [3k\]: how much is w up?
Wazato [4d?\]: now its ok because b played b17
atarihuana [2d\]: even before
]
;B[cp]
C[Wazato [4d?\]: hmm
a3443ra [1d\]: if black just connected to the peep his position looked better to me
atarihuana [2d\]: c10  w just plays b14 also
]
;W[dq]
C[Wazato [4d?\]: what was your sequence?
Uberdude [4d?\]: atarihuana, learn how to play with zombie gorups from roseduke
atarihuana [2d\]:  no im not 8d
TheDuke [2d\]: Violent ko broke out on 2nd board.
atarihuana [2d\]: if b b14 first, w b12
]
;B[ep];W[bp]
C[jamal [1k\]: maybe b9 was the prob
Wazato [4d?\]: c10 d10 b10 b14 b13 and then?
]
;B[bo];W[bq]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: if b13 a13, but b b14 first should have lived anyway
TheDuke [2d\]: Black now in byo
Suphyph [7k?\]: is a zombie group one that is dead, but has so much aji it could become alive?
a3443ra [1d\]: hmm why does black take so long on moves like these
]
;B[co];W[bn]
C[a3443ra [1d\]: why not just play right away to save time :3 (well before he was in byo)
lakidazkal [8k\]: trying to find a way to save stones on left
Mefanol [1k?\]: I've heard some give the advice always read out to where you're unsure
]
;B[ap]
C[a3443ra [1d\]: but c5 is obvious you don't need to take so long to read it
atarihuana [2d\]: ive heard just count  when you have to play obvious moves
]
;W[fr]
C[Hollumber [2k\]: w + 55, done counting :P
lakidazkal [8k\]: he was at byo yomi by then
a3443ra [1d\]: that count seems really off
]
;B[gr]
C[Hollumber [2k\]: nah, it's pretty darn accurate
];W[er]
C[Imp20 [3k\]: id say w+30 at moment
feamed [5d\]: White still has 25 min left, but Black in overtime already
Hollumber [2k\]: trust me ;)
Uberdude [4d?\]: i think he may have enlisted the help on randy
atarihuana [2d\]: and h17 is even dead for sure yet
Hollumber [2k\]: help of randy?
a3443ra [1d\]: grr no way white is 55 ahead
Uberdude [4d?\]: indeed
Hollumber [2k\]: fine, 40, now
]
;B[nf]
C[Hollumber [2k\]: ^^
atarihuana [2d\]: white ahead 90%
Uberdude [4d?\]: Randy, your friendly neighbourhood score randomizer
USGO1 [-\]: w nods
a3443ra [1d\]: n14
atarihuana [2d\]: is there a livestraeam?
a3443ra [1d\]: hmm or not
xDragon [-\]: lol. i scratched a prepaid card too hard and now i cant read the code
]
;W[mf]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: credit card?
xDragon [-\]: fortunately not
];B[of]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: ^^
a3443ra [1d\]: p13
atarihuana [2d\]: 5k scrathced away :D
xDragon [-\]: but still thats 25 bucks i gotta try to decide thru this
xDragon [-\]: decode
Uberdude [4d?\]: p13 dangerous
Uberdude [4d?\]: maybe have to n13
a3443ra [1d\]: oh I was thinking of white giving up those stones 
Uberdude [4d?\]: but i bet he will p13
atarihuana [2d\]: gotta p13
Uberdude [4d?\]: given b's performance so far
BMprobe [4k?\]: n15 :D
lakidazkal [8k\]: n12
Saturne67 [6k\]: n13
atarihuana [2d\]: maybe w just say ok and play m13 ^^
a3443ra [1d\]: after whtie gets sente white can cut at g3
]
;W[mg]
C[Imp20 [3k\]: well if you don't want b to poke at n13 just play n13 heh
]
;B[og]
C[lakidazkal [8k\]: now p13
];W[oh]
C[Imp20 [3k\]: s11?
TheDuke [2d\]: Imo, black mu
TheDuke [2d\]: Must cut
Uberdude [4d?\]: oh he played the right move
Uberdude [4d?\]: how nice of him
]
;B[me];W[le]
C[Uberdude [4d?\]: good boy
xmas11: good boy?
xmas11: lol
];B[ne];W[ld]
C[TheDuke [2d\]: Third board finished.
Uberdude [4d?\]: b wants to q12
atarihuana [2d\]: b just strengthen w
Uberdude [4d?\]: and make it if w atar at q11
Imp20 [3k\]: who won thrid board?
atarihuana [2d\]: can eat q13 thats it
Uberdude [4d?\]: then m14 ladder no longer work
]
;B[nh]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: w doesnt need ladder for escape there
Saturne67 [6k\]: he wants more
Imp20 [3k\]: m12
a3443ra [1d\]: p11
Mefanol [1k?\]: I'm still rooting for black no matter what anyone says
atarihuana [2d\]: nobi
Kiril [3k\]: why not q12?
lakidazkal [8k\]: 114
lakidazkal [8k\]: q14
Imp20 [3k\]: he wants M14 to kill the top
lakidazkal [8k\]: lol?
fairgo1 [3d\]: Haha Go Justin!!! :D
AroundOneD [2d\]: m14 cut there
TheDuke [2d\]: Zhenging gu won third board.
atarihuana [2d\]: w an escape with l15 after the m14 cut
atarihuana [2d\]: id nobi p11
TheDuke [2d\]: I think.
TallGuy [14k\]: L14 maybe
USGO1 [-\]: Board 3 done; Gu won
]
;W[kf]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: 7d so strong, what confidence this move shows
knoxville [1k\]: white leads big, right?
]
;B[ph];W[oi]
C[fairgo1 [3d\]: How much time left for both players?
atarihuana [2d\]: white position loks better yes
]
;B[pi];W[pj]
C[TheDuke [2d\]: 4 byo peroids for black.
knoxville [1k\]: white j15 H15 will lock the top side
TheDuke [2d\]: And 17 minutes for white
lakidazkal [8k\]: atari!
]
;B[oj];W[ni]
C[a3443ra [1d\]: white g3 when white has sente?
];B[nj];W[mi]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: tempting to attack the whole thing rather than cut one stone
a3443ra [1d\]: r13
]
;B[qj];W[pk]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: its a burdon for b anyway
];B[qg]
C[a3443ra [1d\]: r10 seems like aji keshi
atarihuana [2d\]: and w is getting stronger and stronger in the center
]
;W[gq]
C[a3443ra [1d\]: g3
a3443ra [1d\]: black looks screwed :3
TheDuke [2d\]: I dont want to be black here.
]
;B[gp]
C[lakidazkal [8k\]: maybe should have gone for corner instead of side
];W[hq]
C[Mefanol [1k?\]: G4 has to hurt to play
];B[hp]
C[a3443ra [1d\]: f5
knoxville [1k\]: G3 looks not good
atarihuana [2d\]: thats what i thought too, just attack it all
knoxville [1k\]: g3 damaged the center
AroundOneD [2d\]: just h2
a3443ra [1d\]: f5 f4 j3
Kiril [3k\]: f5 and n8
atarihuana [2d\]: anyway b play  pretty much suicide, ommiting h3 defense and making small profit tope right instead for huge w influence
BMprobe [4k?\]: j4
AroundOneD [2d\]: f5 bad
a3443ra [1d\]: why?
atarihuana [2d\]: j3
atarihuana [2d\]: just ill timing
Imp20 [3k\]: g6
Edin [16k\]: whites time?
Kayres [2k\]: later it can be useful to put h4 in atari
]
;W[hr];B[rn]
C[Kiril [3k\]: doesn' back still have chance in killing R8 group?
lakidazkal [8k\]: i have to say f5 did not look good yet
atarihuana [2d\]: the question was wether  to j3 or h2
jrpl: USGO, how's gu's game with pablo?
Kiril [3k\]: why h2 instead of j3?
USGO1 [-\]: white sighs
atarihuana [2d\]: because b can push again
AroundOneD [2d\]: q6
atarihuana [2d\]: now w can double hane at h4
USGO1 [-\]: Board 2 counting
AroundOneD [2d\]: now w can attack b
USGO1 [-\]: Chou by 31
lakidazkal [8k\]: maybe because of corer liberties
atarihuana [2d\]: the g2 stone leads to bad aji , w ant hane effectivly after j3 for example
TheDuke [2d\]: Daniel chou wins big.
lakidazkal [8k\]: corner
]
;W[ip]
C[oren [5k?\]: better than when he comes online to get jigo
atarihuana [2d\]: good tenuki
]
;B[hn];W[fo];B[fp];W[io]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: b looks died
jamal [1k\]: helllp
TheDuke [2d\]: No kidding on jigo part.
Imp20 [3k\]: g7
]
;B[gn]
C[Kiril [3k\]: oh I see point of h2 now
atarihuana [2d\]: its a walking move to run later
AroundOneD [2d\]: k7
knoxville [1k\]: k7
atarihuana [2d\]: can attack well from safe positions
Kayres [2k\]: attack for what, though
atarihuana [2d\]: um kill :D
atarihuana [2d\]: haha
AroundOneD [2d\]: for room
perreo [5k?\]: ...
AroundOneD [2d\]: or killing
jamal [1k\]: black should be able to live... d7 peep is helpful
lakidazkal [8k\]: black running alot on left side
]
;W[fl]
C[Kayres [2k\]: if w kills h4 then b will kill q4
atarihuana [2d\]: the next 50 moves will b running too
]
;B[em]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: right into w thickness
knoxville [1k\]: d6
];W[fm];B[fn]
;W[dm]
C[Kayres [2k\]: e7 nice move
];B[eo];W[el]
C[jamal [1k\]: one I
];B[hl];W[im]
C[knoxville [1k\]: k6
USGO1 [-\]: now b sighs
atarihuana [2d\]: hehe
atarihuana [2d\]: no stream anywhere?
]
;B[in];W[jn]
C[USGO1 [-\]: no stream
atarihuana [2d\]: *sighs*
lakidazkal [8k\]: now right side looks tough as well
Edin [16k\]: the connection is bad for kgs it would be terrible for streaming ^^
]
;B[gl];W[jl]
C[perreo [5k?\]: tenuki
Imp20 [3k\]: umm can't unless he wants to let those b stones die
atarihuana [2d\]: tenuki to press resign?
]
;B[hi];W[he]
C[perreo [5k?\]: they are playing on a board lol
RobertT [-\]: *plays t19* oh sorry I missed the resign button
Hollumber [2k\]: white handled the b11 stones nicely
atarihuana [2d\]: wow
]
;B[ie]
C[Hollumber [2k\]: what is byo yomi settings?
Imp20 [3k\]: 5x60
atarihuana [2d\]: what a move by w
]
;W[hf];B[hd];W[gj];B[hj];W[ik];B[hk];W[if]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: and h17 still not dead 100%
atarihuana [2d\]: too funny
]
;B[fj]
C[knoxville [1k\]: g12
];W[sn];B[np];W[no];B[mo];W[nn]
C[Imp20 [3k\]: w trying to win on time?
atarihuana [2d\]: ?
];B[lp]
C[atarihuana [2d\]: why
Imp20 [3k\]: w responed to b's move so fast heh
]
;W[ic];B[id];W[kb]
C[whuang [2k\]: i was in this tourny!
whuang [2k\]: OMG
whuang [2k\]: seriously
atarihuana [2d\]: painful
nanotech [2k\]: it's over...
whuang [2k\]: yuan zhou is my dads friend
USGO1 [-\]: B resigns
whuang [2k\]: exactly
USGO1 [-\]: thanks for watching!
whuang [2k\]: your welcome
jamal [1k\]: ty for relay
a3443ra [1d\]: lol
whuang [2k\]: whats your name?
atarihuana [2d\]: thx usgo
knoxville [1k\]: maharaja
whuang [2k\]: not you
a3443ra [1d\]: john smith
USGO1 [-\]: World go new free every week: sign up for the American Go E-Journal at http://www.usgo.org
whuang [2k\]: john
whuang [2k\]: can we play
a3443ra [1d\]: nope
whuang [2k\]: ok
a3443ra [1d\]: lol
whuang [2k\]: sigh
a3443ra [1d\]: okay whatever
]
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