(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.5.0.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[2010 Cotsen Open - Round 4 Board 2 - Curtis Tang 7d vs Seung Hyun Hong 7d]
PW[Curtis Tang]WR[7d]
PB[Seung Hyun Hong]BR[7d]
EV[2010 Cotsen Open]RO[4]
DT[2010-09-19]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[8.0]
RE[W+ 7]
US[Chris Burg]
RU[NZ]ST[2]
TM[3600.0]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
C[2010 Cotsen Open
Los Angeles, CA 
Round 4, Board 2
W: Curtis Tang 7d
B: Seung Hyun Hong 7d
Recorded by Chris Burg

USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to our live coverage of the 2010 Cotsen Open, brought to you by the AGA E-Journal team.
USGO2 [-\]: This is round 4, board 2.  I'm Chris Burg, your broadcaster this afternoon.
Xebo [4d\]: how old are these players, Chris?
USGO2 [-\]: They both are claiming to be 18.
Xebo [4d\]: quite young
USGO2 [-\]: (they're not actually)
Xebo [4d\]: how comes?
compendium [?\]: lol
USGO2 [-\]: People are often dishonest about their age
Xebo [4d\]: are they women?
compendium [?\]: yes
tohnoakiha [4k\]: do we know who is leading in in the tournament?
USGO2 [-\]: The players on board 1 are both undefeated so far.
tohnoakiha [4k\]: i see thank you
CheolYong [9k?\]: is it really 4 times a 7d vs 7d game? :O...
USGO2 [-\]: The game has begun
]
;B[pd];W[dc]
C[USGO2 [-\]: The Cotsen Open draws a large number of strong players.
Borat [4d?\]: There's some game broadcasted on eurogotv .. is it by any chance any of these games?
USGO2 [-\]: That's board 1
Borat [4d?\]: oh ok, ty
]
;B[pq];W[dp];B[qk];W[mq];B[po];W[jq];B[jd];W[cn];B[de];W[ee]
C[USGO2 [-\]: E15 is played with a pronounced clack of stone against board.
]
;B[cc];W[dd];B[cd];W[ce];B[df];W[be];B[db];W[eb]
C[Javaness [2d\]: oh look, they know joseki
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis takes a break from reading and briefly glances around the room.
]
;B[cb];W[ec]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Seung Hyun leans in close with hands on knees, rocking back and forth ever so slightly in his chair.
Javaness [2d\]: tell him to sit up properly
USGO2 [-\]: He slowly rotates a fan end over end on the table.
CptHook [4k?\]: b13?
RoundTuit [2k\]: how irritating for his opponent\]
]
;B[bd];W[cg];B[dg]
C[USGO2 [-\]: It wasn't making any noise
];W[ch];B[dh]
C[RoundTuit [2k\]: opponent can still see it, shirley?
];W[di]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Most everyone has their idle habits, but usually nobody notices them.
LugPaj [3d\]: Seung Hyun made bad joseki choice in my opinion.  B should play this, if b doesnt have the ladder
]
;B[ci]
C[LugPaj [3d\]: should = shouldnt
];W[bi];B[cj];W[ei]
C[LugPaj [3d\]: fail again
];B[ff];W[bj];B[fd];W[hc];B[ic];W[hd];B[gb]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Both players rest their head on a hand as they study the board.
CptHook [4k?\]: actually why w has pulled out b15 . c12 insted?
CptHook [4k?\]: instead*
]
;W[hb];B[fb];W[fe];B[fc];W[ef];B[eg];W[ge];B[ed];W[gh];B[gg];W[hg];B[hh]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: what w want to do?
];W[gi];B[ig];W[hf];B[jf];W[kc]
C[dantheman [2d\]: hard game for white
];B[kd]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: i think he is shocked...
];W[jc]
C[LugPaj [3d\]: yeah, terrible atm
];B[lc];W[id]
C[LugPaj [3d\]: but seems alive to  me
];B[ii]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: why b didnt j18 ?
USGO2 [-\]: Curtis shakes his head and sighs.
]
;W[lb];B[mb];W[ka];B[mc]
C[dantheman [2d\]: black has aji in his shape
dantheman [2d\]: now is fixed
LugPaj [3d\]: i wonder what w is doing now....if building its own area or invading
]
;W[re]
C[dantheman [2d\]: black area is bigger, white invaded
];B[qe]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: isnt s16 clasic move for that position?
LugPaj [3d\]: s15 also
]
;W[rd]
C[LugPaj [3d\]: especially if b has big moyo outside and closing the opponen in the corner is favourable
CptHook [4k?\]: tx
]
;B[rf];W[qf];B[rg];W[pc];B[oc];W[pb];B[rb]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: uff
];W[rc];B[od];W[ok];B[qc]
C[LugPaj [3d\]: w got sente group....how nice
dantheman [2d\]: not yet
CptHook [4k?\]: w lives at r18 i think
mkmolm: w is alive
]
;W[qb];B[qd];W[sb];B[pm]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: w needs more
];W[qj]
C[USGO2 [-\]: A very sharp clack issues forth from R10.
];B[pk]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: its a turning point -next moves will decided i think
Javaness [2d\]: how old is Seung Hyun Hong?
]
;W[pj]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Don't know, he told me 18 before the game - not his actual age.
]
;B[oj]
C[Goreon [2d\]: older than squirrel
];W[oi];B[nj];W[ni]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: about 18 somebody said i think ( maybe at board 1)
];B[mj]
;W[mi]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: w in trouble again...
];B[lj]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: q13?
Tannix [1d\]: not sure who's in trouble
USGO2 [-\]: Seung ly checks something on his phone after his play.
USGO2 [-\]: quickly*
Javaness [2d\]: is he using a joseki dictionary?
Tannix [1d\]: haha
BobWhoosta [3k\]: A little late for that...
Tannix [1d\]: ok who is texting him?!
LugPaj [3d\]: a little help from internet ?
]
;W[rk]
C[desayuno [3k\]: lol
RoundTuit [2k\]: someone here?
BobWhoosta [3k\]: He's got the latest version of GnuGo, who assures him that white M11 has a 70.25% chance of winning at 30 ply.
desayuno [3k\]: lol
BobWhoosta [3k\]: White seems fine here.
BobWhoosta [3k\]: He's got tesujis and stuff.
]
;B[qh];W[ph]
C[Tannix [1d\]: i don't get it
allrooms [3k?\]: "yea do some tesuji... dude!"
dantheman [2d\]: if white lose this group game over for him
BobWhoosta [3k\]: If he lives he wins.
USGO2 [-\]: Seung Hyun hesitates on his play and withdraws his hand.
]
;B[pf]
C[desayuno [3k\]: passive
desayuno [3k\]: w lives
desayuno [3k\]: gg
allrooms [3k?\]: how does w live
LugPaj [3d\]: s8
Tannix [1d\]: i fail to see life
allrooms [3k?\]: s8 is 1 eye
desayuno [3k\]: q13 r13 s8 s11 s10 
allrooms [3k?\]: even the q13+ o13 shape is not an eye definitely
desayuno [3k\]: lets call it a half eye
]
;W[qm]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: i think w has to try r7
];B[rl]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: hm
];W[ql];B[pl];W[rm];B[rj]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: b shoud has cut w at q11..instead of r12
];W[sl]
C[desayuno [3k\]: b compromises
];B[pi];W[qp]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: w rather
BobWhoosta [3k\]: That was a nice exchanged.
]
;B[pp]
C[BobWhoosta [3k\]: White ahead.
BobWhoosta [3k\]: Tenuki?
allrooms [3k?\]: r5
BobWhoosta [3k\]: White is already alive.
BobWhoosta [3k\]: He should T10 though, it's double sente.
]
;W[qq]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: but it is huge yose
CptHook [4k?\]: how is w ahead if o11 is dead
]
;B[ra];W[qa]
C[BobWhoosta [3k\]: White dead here?
];B[er]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: w got r3, thats very nice
allrooms [3k?\]: also w has q6
]
;W[eq];B[fq];W[fp]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: q6 is nice
LugPaj [3d\]: how is w alive at the corner?
allrooms [3k?\]: the top right is alive without ko and without influencing h18
allrooms [3k?\]: t15 t19 t16 p19 i assume?
dantheman [2d\]: white is an expert at reanimating sick groups
]
;B[dq];W[ep];B[cr];W[fr];B[cp]
C[BobWhoosta [3k\]: I still couldn't figure that out LugPaj.
];W[es]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: c5?
BobWhoosta [3k\]: Looks like T15 kills...
];B[co];W[bn]
;B[dr]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: did you try the sequence?
pouette [2d\]: t15 t19 t16 p19 p18 n19 
CptHook [4k?\]: r5 kills only r3 i think t5 doesnt
BobWhoosta [3k\]: Yup, just saw that Pouette.
]
;W[dn]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: why am i even typing if nobody cares to read
CptHook [4k?\]: sorry neither r5
]
;B[bq];W[ij];B[jj];W[ik];B[do];W[en];B[jo];W[jk];B[kk];W[kl];B[iq];W[gq]
;B[kq]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: ups
];W[jp];B[ko]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: w had more option here
];W[kp];B[lp];W[ip];B[io];W[lo]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Curtis has 15 minutes remaining on his clock.  Seung Hyun has 19 minutes left.
CptHook [4k?\]: interesting i expected m3 instead of j5
]
;B[mp]
C[LugPaj [3d\]: b feels w is too big there
LugPaj [3d\]: and he needs to invade
]
;W[mo]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Curtis takes some stones and manipulates them in one hand.
allrooms [3k?\]: n5 is nice
allrooms [3k?\]: w is not giving an inch
allrooms [3k?\]: i dont see a good way for b
allrooms [3k?\]: b will end in gote
CptHook [4k?\]: k2 and m3
allrooms [3k?\]: k2 and m3 kills 3 stones
CptHook [4k?\]: so
Sandmann [-\]: if only m3, b can h4
CptHook [4k?\]: b k2 and m3 i meant
allrooms [3k?\]: yea m3 would be too mild
allrooms [3k?\]: yes i assumed that, cpt, but that kills k5 i think
CptHook [4k?\]: how will n5 survive?
Nightwave [1d\]: the question is
Nightwave [1d\]: how will K5 survive
allrooms [3k?\]: k2 h4 m3 o4 n2 o3 then?
allrooms [3k?\]: o2 => n5 dies
]
;B[lq]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: and o5 => m3 dies
allrooms [3k?\]: uh, i means o2 => L5 dies
]
;W[np];B[mr]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: n2 first is definitely better... h4 remains potential
CptHook [4k?\]: yes
]
;W[jr]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: k2 in sente, then m7
allrooms [3k?\]: b wont answer i guess
Nightwave [1d\]: i would have played m7 first
CptHook [4k?\]: k2 is sente
Nightwave [1d\]: no is not
True [1k\]: ye..
allrooms [3k?\]: not enough sente
True [1k\]: mm
CptHook [4k?\]: bec of o3
True [1k\]: if no respond o-3
Nightwave [1d\]: B m7
allrooms [3k?\]: the 3 stones are bigger
allrooms [3k?\]: question is if b can try something like o5 here
Nightwave [1d\]: or l7
allrooms [3k?\]: but probably not
True [1k\]: but if u l7
True [1k\]: hmm
dantheman [2d\]: m6
]
;B[nq];W[lm]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: great for w
];B[qr]
C[allrooms [3k?\]: b lost a move here
Nightwave [1d\]: too big
USGO2 [-\]: The clock gives Seung Hyun a 10 minute warning in a very loud voice.
]
;W[ro]
C[RoundTuit [2k\]: how _very_ irritating
CptHook [4k?\]: nice come back by w
LugPaj [3d\]: j4 was a desaster
Borat [4d?\]: looked more like w played desperately-overagressive and black succumbed , now it looks even
LugPaj [3d\]: now w+10 in my opinion
]
;B[ie];W[ib];B[rq];W[rp];B[rr];W[hi];B[ih]
C[Borat [4d?\]: j15 looks awful ... black could get some better sente moves from playing n19 i think
]
;W[if];B[kj];W[bo];B[bp];W[ri];B[qi];W[sj];B[qn]
C[LugPaj [3d\]: t10 was double sente
CptHook [4k?\]: r6 isnt a treath really
]
;W[rn];B[ae];W[ag];B[kr]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Curtis receives his 10 minute warning.
];W[ks];B[ls];W[js]
;B[ob];W[sa];B[mm];W[ml];B[ln];W[mn];B[nm];W[kn];B[no];W[nn];B[on];W[oo]
;B[nl];W[ll]
C[Borat [4d?\]: w-> komi
];B[qj];W[ln];B[op];W[no]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: does 2 cuts work h10 and k8?
Borat [4d?\]: doesn't look like it
]
;B[eo];W[fo]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Seung Hyun has entered byo yomi.
];B[mk];W[fh];B[fg];W[he]
;B[je];W[qo];B[pn];W[sq];B[sr];W[sp];B[hj];W[hk]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Seung Hyun has used 1 of his byo yomi periods.
CptHook [4k?\]: i think b has to played e12 first
]
;B[gj];W[fj];B[hp];W[ir]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Black has used a second byo yomi period.
];B[gk];W[gl]
C[SoulSeeker [2k?\]: Oo
USGO2 [-\]: Seung Hyun has 2 byo yomi periods remaining.
]
;B[af]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Curtis still has 5 minutes of main time.
];W[bf];B[ad];W[fk]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Seung Hyun is now on his last byo yomi period.
];B[ds];W[fs]
;B[sh];W[si];B[se];W[sd];B[sf];W[ga]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: hmm b will lose but he was so good
];B[ma];W[la];B[fa]
;W[ha];B[oa];W[ao];B[aq];W[bg];B[rh];W[sk];B[ea];W[eh];B[dd];W[gd];B[gc]
;W[gf];B[cf];W[pa];B[lk];W[ap]
C[CptHook [4k?\]: k5 sequence decided
Javaness [2d\]: white is made of win
USGO2 [-\]: W+7
globax [3d\]: thank you us go 02 :)
Javaness [2d\]: thanks USGO
sweety [-\]: Thank you USGO2~
CptHook [4k?\]: thx
USGO2 [-\]: You're certainly welcome.
USGO2 [-\]: Thanks for joining us for our live coverage of the 2010 Cotsen Open, brought to you by the AGA E-Journal team.
globax [3d\]: quite late in europe for next round^^
CptHook [4k?\]: almoust midnight 
globax [3d\]: next round coming in 2 hours ?
USGO2 [-\]: The final round should begin at <gmt>2010-09-19 21:30</gmt>
globax [3d\]: UT?
USGO2 [-\]: I think...I'm not so good with those gmt tags
chayashida [?\]: Um, it's 2:30 PM PDT now. We're waiting on  four games to pair. We're almost ready.
globax [3d\]: no problem^^
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