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GN[2010 Cotsen Open - Round 1 Board 2 - Guthrie Price 7d vs Dae Hyuk Ko 7d]
PW[Guthrie Price]WR[7d]
PB[Dae Hyuk Ko]BR[7d]
EV[2010 Cotsen Open]RO[1]
DT[2010-09-18]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[8.0]
RE[B+R]
US[Chris Burg]
RU[NZ]ST[2]
TM[3600.0]OT[5x45 byo-yomi]
C[2010 Cotsen Open
Round 1, Board 2
September 18, 2010
Los Angeles, CA
W: Guthrie Price 7d
B: Dae Hyuk Ko 7d
Commentary: Jennie Shen 2P
Broadcast on KGS; recorded by Chris Burg


USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to our live coverage of the 2010 Cotsen Open in Los Angeles, CA, brought to you by the AGA E-Journal.
USGO2 [-\]: This is round 1, board 2.  I'm Chris Burg, your broadcaster this morning.
NeoNemesis [-\]: Hello Chris, thanks for broadcasting
USGO2 [-\]: My pleasure
USGO2 [-\]: We're still waiting on pairings right now.  I'll update the player info when they post them.
BlackSmurf [3k\]: hi ! great, when is it supposed to start?
USGO2 [-\]: The schedule is in my player info, I believe the first round was supposed to start an hour ago.
BlackSmurf [3k\]: ah ok thx
Booth: when begins the 1st round ?
eurogotv [-\]: will this board be on EuroGoTV-US or USGO1?
evanj [2d\]: shouldn't you know that?
evanj [2d\]: so... why is it an hour and a half behind schedule?
USGO2 [-\]: There have been some delays with the pairings
USGO2 [-\]: Pairings have been posted.  Board 2 is Guthrie Price 7d as white playing against Dae Hyuk Ko 7d.
Robotics [1k\]: 7d party tonight
Robotics [1k\]: or day in us
SaturnYear [4k\]:   dear Booth!! Are you escaper?
Totti10 [3k\]: partaaaaaay
kmr [2k\]: chunga is very strong
kmr [2k\]: i lkie his style
SaturnYear [4k\]:   who??
kmr [2k\]: black is chunga
kmr [2k\]: from KGS
kmr [2k\]: :)
Schmalls [4k\]: they are thinking a long time about first move
alienist [5k\]: looks like w win on time/;~)
CHAMPlON: white is HIGHMOUNTAIN from KGS :)
USGO2 [-\]: Time settings are actually different from the game rules.  They've been changed to 1 hour main time with 5 periods of 30 seconds byo yomi.
Schmalls [4k\]: is it starting in 10 minutes
Karcusrd [7k\]: is there a live feed video
USGO2 [-\]: Players are settling in right now.  Games should begin soon.
eatramen [16k\]: stream?
Schmalls [4k\]: what drinks do the players have?
Karcusrd [7k\]: yes stream?
USGO2 [-\]: We weren't able to get the video feed set up for round 1, I'll try to get it by round 2 if I can.
eatramen [16k\]: ok, cool that would be nice
evanj [2d\]: which of the four boards will move first - place your bets
USGO2 [-\]: Dae Hyuk has water, Guthrie has no drink.
joenosai [4k\]: lol evanj
USGO2 [-\]: The games are now beginning.
]
;B[pp]
C[evanj [2d\]: 2 wins!!!
];W[dp];B[qd]
C[Shadowrun [4k\]: w is tabemasu?
bubba [4d\]: who is the TD for the tournament?
joenosai [4k\]: lol evanj
]
;W[dc];B[oc];W[qn];B[nq]
C[USGO2 [-\]: I am unsure who the TD is today
];W[qj];B[ce]
C[N4KED [2d\]: Is there a list of players in the tournament?
USGO2 [-\]: Not that I am aware of
Path [11k\]: How much time do the players get to play?
USGO2 [-\]: Dae Hyuk adjusts the stone at R10 with a crooked finger.
Nehalennia [9k\]: It's in the rule info
gooooo [9k\]: usgo, great comments :)
USGO2 [-\]: The rule info is actually incorrect.  Byo yomi is 30 seconds, not 45.
Ceausescu [1k\]: any live stream?
Nehalennia [9k\]: Ah, thanks!
Schmalls [4k\]: dae hyuk has crooked fingers? gross
USGO2 [-\]: The 1 syllable version of crooked
]
;W[cg]
C[rTicWolf [?\]: as in shepherd
Javaness [2d\]: deformed from playing baduk I guess
USGO2 [-\]: Dae Hyuk leans in with hands on knees after Guthrie's play at C13
Mutenroshi [-\]: are both plazyer playing on kgs, too?
]
;B[ee]
C[beeblebrox [10k?\]: everyone's fingers are crooked
];W[fd];B[hd];W[fe]
C[beeblebrox [10k?\]: except for hand models maybe
];B[dg];W[ch];B[ff];W[gf]
;B[fg];W[he];B[jd];W[cd];B[cf];W[ck];B[qh];W[rp];B[ql];W[on];B[pk];W[qq]
;B[kq]
C[USGO2 [-\]: The board the players are playing on today is homemade, and topped with a plastic-like surface.  The stones produce a distinctive clicking sound when played on it.
Schmalls [4k\]: do you know who the board belongs to?
USGO2 [-\]: I don't, unfortunately
]
;W[pj];B[nk];W[oj];B[nm]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Guthrie holds his head in his hands, his arms resting on the table.
]
;W[oh];B[qf];W[mi]
C[USGO2 [-\]: He bumps the table slightly as he shifts position in his chair.
miguelsan [4k\]: USGO what is he wearing today
]
;B[ie]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Guthrie is wearing a black t-shirt.  Dae Hyuk is wearing a blue pinstripe button-up.
rTicWolf [?\]: No dress code?
blackstork [?\]: Colour of socks?
evanj [2d\]: type of underwear?
Wisp [13k\]: hmm, u guys really care about hs clothes lol
blackstork [?\]: After shave?
N4KED [2d\]: So did the players already have lunch then?
USGO2 [-\]: No, lunch is after round 1 I believe
]
;W[gg];B[gh];W[hg];B[dh]
C[rTicWolf [?\]: Is empty triangle good in this position?
N4KED [2d\]: So round 3 will be at 5 pm then?
USGO2 [-\]: I'm not sure how they're going to alter the schedule to accomodate the late start.
]
;W[ci]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Someone's cell phone breaks the quiet of the room.
N4KED [2d\]: I think empty triangle is good when you are cutting between 2 groups
]
;B[hh];W[ig]
C[rTicWolf [?\]: Well, W would know better than me. Just a bit surprising
rTicWolf [?\]: Thanks for the answer
]
;B[gc];W[fc];B[me]
C[N4KED [2d\]: sometimes pro players will even make a dango...if it is cutting between 2 groups and going towards the center
rTicWolf [?\]: I guess any move becomes good if it fits the situation well enough
Uberdude [3d?\]: h13 i sinilar to jsoeki
Uberdude [3d?\]: where empty triangle
Uberdude [3d?\]: i show in demo
]
;W[nc]
C[alienist [5k\]: h14 made empty triangle
alienist [5k\]: h13
];B[od];W[fq]
;B[cp];W[co]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Guthrie slides C5 into place without making a sound.
globax [3d\]: necessary to avoid damezumari
Uberdude [3d?\]: see my demo =)
globax [3d\]: :)
]
;B[bo]
C[USGO2 [-\]: He continues to support his head with his hands.  Dae Hyuk alternates between crossing his arms and folding his hands in his lap.
beeblebrox [10k?\]: *strokes chin*
]
;W[bp];B[cq];W[bq];B[do];W[cn];B[dq];W[ep];B[bn];W[br]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Dae Hyuk hesitates several times on his move.
USGO2 [-\]: He returns his stone to his bowl.
]
;B[cm];W[dn];B[em];W[en];B[fn]
C[USGO2 [-\]: He gets up and leaves the table with his cup in hand.
miguelsan [4k\]: was the cup half full or half empty?
USGO2 [-\]: Neither, it was comletely empty
]
;W[ei]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Guthrie has 39 minutes remaining of his main time.  Dae Hyuk has 49 minutes remaining.
miguelsan [4k\]: whats boyomi
beeblebrox [10k?\]: 30 seconds, i think
USGO2 [-\]: Dae Hyuk returns to the table with a half cup of water.
USGO2 [-\]: Yes byo yomi is 5 periods of 30 seconds.
Nehalennia [9k\]: D11 looks good
]
;B[ek]
C[daladim [1d\]: nice move
];W[ej];B[fh];W[fk];B[fl];W[dk];B[dm];W[eo];B[gk]
;W[el]
C[himbuis: x
USGO2 [-\]: Dae Hyuk pauses with his hand in his bowl.
];B[hl]
;W[gj];B[hj];W[ik];B[hk];W[gm];B[fm];W[ic];B[jc];W[jb];B[kb];W[ib];B[id]
;W[gb];B[ja]
C[daladim [1d\]: tenuki
];W[gd]
C[daladim [1d\]: ah no ^^
];B[lk]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Dae Hyuk takes a moment to peer about the room, inspecting both boards 1 and 3.
johnny [4k\]: W L12?
johnny [4k\]: or something like j5?
]
;W[le];B[lf]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Guthrie rubs his eyes before studying Dae Hyuk's move.
USGO2 [-\]: He places a hand in his bowl, but then removes it without retrieving a stone.
]
;W[lc]
C[daladim [1d\]: wooow
];B[kc]
C[daladim [1d\]: n16
];W[mf]
C[daladim [1d\]: doh
];B[md];W[kf];B[lg]
C[Uberdude [3d?\]: w is hurting n11 
];W[ld]
C[daladim [1d\]: looks like it will end with a big exchange
USGO2 [-\]: Dae Hyuk leans in quickly with his mouth hanging open after M16
USGO2 [-\]: His mouth moves silently as he reads.
]
;B[ke];W[mc]
C[duffman [5d?\]: looks like w is going to die big
fh63 [3k\]: you read it?
duffman [5d?\]: well, b seems ahead in any lib race
]
;B[nf]
C[alienist [5k\]: 5 to 6?
];W[mg]
C[alienist [5k\]: 4 to 6?
duffman [5d?\]: 1 ahead
];B[mh]
C[duffman [5d?\]: i think o14 is dangerous
];W[ng]
C[duffman [5d?\]: o16 was neatly killing
];B[lh];W[li];B[kh]
C[duffman [5d?\]: b+ res
];W[jg];B[ki]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Games are beginning to finish, freeing up some players to wander the room and observe.  Two players briefly stop by board 2.
]
;W[lb];B[nb]
C[duffman [5d?\]: ko
daladim [1d\]: n19 ko ?
];W[la];B[ka];W[ob];B[pb];W[if]
C[duffman [5d?\]: k15 ko
daladim [1d\]: i see
USGO2 [-\]: The noise level in the room is beginning to steadily rise over time.
Schmalls [4k\]: wheres the TD >:(
Schmalls [4k\]: even if w wins the ko is it enough for o13?
daladim [1d\]: this shows that duffman was right to say o14 was dangerous
]
;B[rm]
C[duffman [5d?\]: but it's good result for b anyway
duffman [5d?\]: because p10 is gonna die
daladim [1d\]: yope
]
;W[pq];B[nd];W[je];B[jf];W[pl];B[pm];W[je];B[bl];W[bk];B[jf];W[ol];B[ok]
;W[je];B[bg];W[bh];B[jf]
C[Uberdude [3d?\]: b8 should have been w;s sebte
];W[om];B[qk];W[je]
C[Uberdude [3d?\]: before e11 
];B[be]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Guthrie now has 15 minutes of main time remaining.  Dae Hyuk has 30 minutes left on his clock.
daladim [1d\]: ignore !
daladim [1d\]: or something around k4 maybe
]
;W[di];B[jf]
C[alexanderp [3k?\]: we all root for chunga, don't we?
bishini [9k?\]: why?
alexanderp [3k?\]: because we have monkey brains and can care about only 150 persons we know. And we know chunga on KGS!
daladim [1d\]: chunga should win this one
]
;W[mk];B[nl];W[je]
C[alexanderp [3k?\]: b can choose what to take...i bet he wants it all
]
;B[ak];W[aj];B[jf]
C[duffman [5d?\]: which round is this?
];W[ml]
C[Elram [17k\]: first :p
USGO2 [-\]: Round 1
USGO2 [-\]: We had a pretty late start this morning.
]
;B[kg]
C[alexanderp [3k?\]: USGO, who is strongest in rank at this tournament and who is Cotsen? Is there a site?
duffman [5d?\]: it's 12 am for you now?
bishini [9k?\]: how many players from out of state?  :)
]
;W[kj]
C[USGO2 [-\]: It's 1:13pm here now
alexanderp [3k?\]: and what is this place? NY, Chicago?
bishini [9k?\]: LA
]
;B[lm]
C[USGO2 [-\]: There are quite a few AGA 7 dan players here today
USGO2 [-\]: I don't know how many are out of state.
bishini [9k?\]: is calvin there?
USGO2 [-\]: The clock loudly proclaims Guthrie has 10 minutes left of his main time.
Javaness [2d\]: tell it to shut up
USGO2 [-\]: He was on the pairings, so probably.
duffman [5d?\]: yea, these clocks are so annoying
duffman [5d?\]: i hate them
bishini [9k?\]: thx USGO2
alexanderp [3k?\]: yeah, first they loudly proclaim, then they get your kids and half the money
duffman [5d?\]: haha
USGO2 [-\]: The website for this tournament can be found via the link in my player info.
]
;W[mj];B[mm];W[ll]
C[goseki [6d\]: w will die
goseki [6d\]: =)
alexanderp [3k?\]: USGO, i can't find the info about who is Cotsen on the site, am I missing something? Yes, I will google it now, of course, but...
]
;B[nh]
C[daladim [1d\]: killed or not he ll probably lose ^^
USGO2 [-\]: Eric Cotsen is his full name
]
;W[og]
C[beeblebrox [10k?\]: eric koston is a skateboarder
goseki [6d\]: p13 is lol
goseki [6d\]: o11 o10 p11 and shame
]
;B[kl]
C[daladim [1d\]: ^^
USGO2 [-\]: Dae Hyuk forgets to hit his clock after his play.
pseudocalm [16k\]: still >.>
]
;W[kk]
C[alexanderp [3k?\]: USGO, Lloyd Eric Cotsen? Still, it's hard to find anything about him. Even on senseis.xmp.net
Javaness [2d\]: I wish i could hit the clock
]
;B[ji]
C[daladim [1d\]: b wants all oO
];W[rg];B[qg]
C[alexanderp [3k?\]: my bet, dal:)
daladim [1d\]: :)
USGO2 [-\]: I think that's correct alex
alexanderp [3k?\]: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0182897/ 
USGO2 [-\]: I believe Cotsen is a 1 kyu or so.
alexanderp [3k?\]: i think this guy sponsors this tournament
]
;W[km];B[jl];W[il];B[jm];W[im];B[jn];W[ij];B[ii]
C[bishini [9k?\]: aga needs more nice guys like Cotsen :)
alexanderp [3k?\]: we here need such guys even more than AGA:)
]
;W[in]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Most of the clocks this year are Excaliber clocks, which apparently beep incessantly when someone runs out of time.
]
;B[gn];W[jo];B[ko]
C[pwaldron [-\]: do they talk during the game?
USGO2 [-\]: I think they just beep.
]
;W[jp];B[kp]
C[pwaldron [-\]: improvement over the Ing clocks then :)
alexanderp [3k?\]: :)
USGO2 [-\]: Think of an Ing clock that keeps repeating what it's saying until you turn it off.  It's not really an improvement.
Javaness [2d\]: I like a traditional analogue clock, simple and beautiful
tinca [-\]: but ticking
]
;W[jq]
C[daladim [1d\]: o11 now
];B[hp]
C[alexanderp [3k?\]: i was thinking about h4, dal....didn't see o11
pseudocalm [16k\]: lol, anyone ever see the woman who does emptytrianlge.com "concert to 103 ing clocks" ?
pseudocalm [16k\]: concert for*
alexanderp [3k?\]: no, pseudocalm, but I want to see a woman.
alexanderp [3k?\]: Well, okay, this woman.
strong10k [-\]: google search it
pseudocalm [16k\]: i'll link in egr
]
;W[ho]
C[Javaness [2d\]: join the emptytriangle room then
];B[gp]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Guthrie receives his 1 minute warning from the clock.
];W[kr]
;B[fp];W[eq]
C[pseudocalm [16k\]: how much is b ahead right now?
];B[lr];W[ir];B[hr]
C[alexanderp [3k?\]: it depends, pseudo, on the status of the big white n10 group
USGO2 [-\]: Guthrie has entered byo yomi
alexanderp [3k?\]: but it's possible w to resign
]
;W[mr];B[lq];W[ls];B[nr];W[gr];B[hs];W[iq];B[hq];W[is]
C[alexanderp [3k?\]: o11
daladim [1d\]: well ... o11 ? :)
daladim [1d\]: ^^
]
;B[op];W[qm];B[rn]
C[USGO2 [-\]: Guthrie has used a byo yomi period
daniiil [4k\]: haven't w good sente h7?
USGO2 [-\]: B+R
daladim [1d\]: chunga !
pseudocalm [16k\]: B+time? :P
Elram [17k\]: no
Schmalls [4k\]: welp
Elram [17k\]: resign
sweety [-\]: thank you USGO2
pseudocalm [16k\]: ty
alexanderp [3k?\]: thanks
daladim [1d\]: thx usgo yep :)
daladim [1d\]: chunga the best !
USGO2 [-\]: Thanks for joining us for our live coverage of the 2010 Cotsen Open, brought to you by the AGA E-Journal.  Round 2 should begin after players have had a break for lunch.
globax [3d\]: thx usgo 02
]
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