(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:2.5.0.0]CA[UTF-8]
GN[North American Ing Masters Tournament - US Go Congress - Round 5 Board 1 - Eric Lui 7d vs Huiren Yang 1p]
PW[Eric Lui]WR[7d]
PB[Huiren Yang]BR[1p]
EV[2010 North American Ing Masters Tournament]
DT[2010-08-07]
PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
KM[8.0]
RE[B+ 3]
US[Solomon Smilack]
RU[NZ]ST[2]
TM[5400.0]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
SO[transcribed by Todd Blatt]
AN[Yasumasa Hane 9P, Maeda Ryo 6P, Shigeko Hane 1P]
C[2010 North American Ing Masters Tournament
Round 5, Board 1 (Final)
Friday, August 6, 2010
Played at UCCS, Colorado Springs, CO
Broadcast live on the KGS Go Server
W: Eric Lui 7D
B: Huiren Yang 1P
Commentary by Yasumasa Hane 9P, Maeda Ryo 6P & Shigeko Hane 1P
Translation by Yoshi Sawada & Shoji Hosono 
Recorded by Solomon Smilack, transcribed by Todd Blatt.
KGS support by Akane Negishi and Matt Heymering
EJ coordination by Chris Garlock and Steve Colburn

This game was projected on two large screens in the main playing area of the 2010 U.S. Go Congress to a crowd of several hundred attendees,while hundreds more watched on KGS: on one screen was the actual game and a cloned game with Hane's commentary, on the other was a live video feed showing the players. Hane began the game commentary and eventually it was taken over by Maeda and Shigeko; all three -- with the able assistance of translators Yoshi Sawada and Shoji Honsono -- kept everyone entertained and engaged. At the three-hour mark the two players were still battling it out but the crowd, the commentators and the translators were transfixed, and the detailed commentary continued right through the end of the 3-point game. 
]
;B[pd];W[dd];B[pp];W[dp]
C[USGO10 [-\]: corners first then sides
];B[fc]
C[USGO10 [-\]: approach move is the same as the side
];W[id]
C[USGO10 [-\]: Very rapid start
USGO10 [-\]: Hane 9p id commenting
USGO10 [-\]: they started on all star points
USGO10 [-\]: anyone can play this way and they are all good moves
USGO10 [-\]: white responds with a pincer
USGO10 [-\]: eric is a young player
USGO10 [-\]: Mr. hane doesn't know who they are, but is guessing that eric is younger
USGO10 [-\]: and the other is older and professional
USGO10 [-\]: eric is only 21
USGO10 [-\]: he guessed the hage
Shipper [3k\]: he guessed right :p
USGO10 [-\]: Huiren yang moved to us in 1994
USGO10 [-\]: and is a chief instructor
USGO10 [-\]: he started playing go at age 12, which is late
USGO10 [-\]: eric lui attends UMBC university of maryland baltimore county
USGO10 [-\]: 15th place in the world amateur
]
;B[fe]
C[USGO10 [-\]: once space jump
];W[df]
C[USGO10 [-\]: regular response
]
(;B[db];W[cc];B[ib]
C[USGO10 [-\]: after, sliding to the right side is iportant
USGO10 [-\]: black is settled
]
(;W[ci]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is more solid
USGO10 [-\]: this is the reason why to play here
USGO10 [-\]: white can tenuki for the blackjump
]
;B[fq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is a nice response
USGO10 [-\]: once lower is more popular
Kozak03 [8k\]: where is mr hane chief instructor at ?
USGO10 [-\]: on the stage
]
;W[hq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: you can watch this on video
];B[cq];W[dq];B[cp];W[do];B[dr]
;W[er];B[cr]
C[muru [9k\]: where?
USGO10 [-\]: this is a popular standard sequence
USGO10 [-\]: another admin.. post link?
]
;W[eq];B[cn];W[qf];B[nd];W[qn]
C[USGO1 [-\]:  http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
]
(;B[nq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: and the other one
USGO10 [-\]: the other one is commentary video
USGO10 [-\]: from my POV
USGO1 [-\]: Oh the video for the stage x.X sorry
USGO10 [-\]: j16 is light
USGO1 [-\]: I think it is  http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
USGO10 [-\]: if b can capture the stone
]
;W[pj]
(;B[rp]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is the actual game
USGO10 [-\]: very solid play
USGO10 [-\]: black starts very secure
USGO10 [-\]: lower left and lower right
USGO10 [-\]: and top is settled some
]
;W[lc]
C[Shipper [3k\]: r15 seems to strengthen white on the right
]
(;B[qe]SQ[qg:qi]
C[USGO10 [-\]: white invades
Goprince [3d\]: none
USGO10 [-\]: when there is three space on the right
USGO10 [-\]: it is rather seldom to see this kind of move
USGO10 [-\]: if a pro sees this game, black would not get appreciation
USGO10 [-\]: they are both very strong players
USGO10 [-\]: so there must be some other reason behind it
]
;W[pf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: then this is ideal fo rwhite
USGO10 [-\]: nowadays especially in international games, japanese may thing its a bad move, but still theyu win sometimes
USGO10 [-\]: this could be one of them
]
;B[nc]
C[Goprince [3d\]: which commented video?
USGO10 [-\]: in japan they hardly see this kind of move
Tetriste [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
USGO10 [-\]: r15
USGO10 [-\]: very very solid
USGO10 [-\]: b has 4 corners and alive
USGO10 [-\]: if black can win this way, it will be easy for black
USGO10 [-\]: 7.5 komi
USGO10 [-\]: 8.0 really its ING
Tetriste [-\]: maybe b plans to r10 anyway?
]
(;W[ro]LB[pk:B][jq:C][qq:A]
C[USGO10 [-\]: normally komi is involved this way
USGO10 [-\]: if the game proceeds like this, Black can win just 5 points on the board
USGO10 [-\]: this is also very popular
USGO10 [-\]: witout s5, b can suddenly invade at r8
USGO10 [-\]: so far black is playing mildly
USGO10 [-\]: Mr hane gave us three hints
USGO10 [-\]: conservative response is R#
USGO10 [-\]: another option is Q9
USGO10 [-\]: and the other is 3
USGO10 [-\]: K3
USGO10 [-\]: so we'revoting
miguelsan [5k\]: based on how b has been playing probably R3 :)
USGO10 [-\]: voting for a?
USGO10 [-\]: b?
observer12: C
]
(;B[qp]
C[Goprince [3d\]: B
karudosu [9k\]: D :)
USGO10 [-\]: 90% of the room votes C
USGO10 [-\]: real game... its D!
Tetriste [-\]: lol
miguelsan [5k\]: :P
NightSky [7k\]: lol
Blee25 [11k\]: passive lol
Shipper [3k\]: R4 makes T4 sente :p
]
(;W[on]
C[USGO10 [-\]: white needs to block
USGO10 [-\]: if w tenuki then b will invade white side
USGO10 [-\]: w could block p6 or q7
]
(;B[rf];W[rg]
C[Tetriste [-\]: 0.o
];B[re]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this seems to erase the invading aji
USGO10 [-\]: he is gaining cash
USGO10 [-\]: very solid
USGO10 [-\]: normally, if b plays this way it'll be difficult to win
USGO10 [-\]: Mr Hane always likes fighting and doesnt like this way
USGO10 [-\]: k3 or r8 or r12
USGO10 [-\]: b appears to want to avoid fighting
USGO10 [-\]: if b can play this way, he could be the meijin
USGO10 [-\]: or if the opponent is weak
Goprince [3d\]: lol
USGO10 [-\]: so, lets see what is going to happen
Tetriste [-\]: I like m15 for black
USGO10 [-\]: if mr hane is playing white and black plays this way, he would be shocked
omar [2d\]: this is opposite's of huiren's kgs style
USGO10 [-\]: it would be painful and sad
Godaisuki [2d\]: psychology attack
Goprince [3d\]: lol huiren plays blitz on kgs
USGO10 [-\]: mr hane is famous with chinese style fighting
USGO10 [-\]: he likes to fight and is famous for it
ChemBoy613 [-\]: sometimes when you play for fun and sometimes you play serious
USGO10 [-\]: if opponents play like this and he gets defeated, its sad for him
USGO10 [-\]: it is interesting to see the outcome
USGO10 [-\]: its fun for us because usually the games are slower
]
(;W[mf]
C[Tetriste [-\]: bleh
USGO10 [-\]: eric jumps
Tetriste [-\]: I think it's thin
USGO10 [-\]: also r12 defense is solid
USGO10 [-\]: whites play is consisting
USGO10 [-\]: consistant
]
(;B[rh]
C[USGO10 [-\]: he leaves the weakness for later and wants to fight
USGO10 [-\]: makes the area bigger
USGO10 [-\]: but he clamps right away
USGO10 [-\]: by black clamping, the hande and connect starts to work
]
(;W[qh];B[sg]
C[Goprince [3d\]: n3?
Goprince [3d\]: n4*
ChemBoy613 [-\]: i strongly prefer black in that situation
]
(;W[cb]
C[relations [5k\]: is the group at f 17 attackable?
ChemBoy613 [-\]: no, but there is aji
Shipper [3k\]: not really
Tetriste [-\]: isn't this sort of small?
ChemBoy613 [-\]: if there is an attack, this is it
USGO10 [-\]: white is blocking... not only securing territory but leaning on blacks group
USGO10 [-\]: blacks eyeshape is pretty... yeah
USGO10 [-\]: hmm
]
(;B[ld]
C[USGO10 [-\]: so far blacks solid play is succesful
USGO10 [-\]: jump attachment
USGO10 [-\]: it depends how this move proceeds
slyedoc [6k\]: are these guys both pros?
USGO10 [-\]: normallly....a stone moves fromt he weak side
USGO10 [-\]: and black is playin from the strong side
]
;W[gd]
C[Tetriste [-\]: their ranks are shown next to their name
];B[fd]
C[slyedoc [6k\]: thx
USGO10 [-\]: so he is losing profit
USGO10 [-\]: normally moving from the left side
]
(;W[jb]
C[Godaisuki [2d\]: ...
Tetriste [-\]: hahaha
USGO10 [-\]: Mr Hane's family is coming on stage now
USGO10 [-\]: Yasumasa Hane is 9p, and speaking in japanese
Medriel [1k?\]: is he the one in the suit?
USGO10 [-\]: yes
]
(;B[hc]
C[Medriel [1k?\]: who is his friend?
USGO10 [-\]: sound?
Medriel [1k?\]: no sound
USGO10 [-\]: uh oh, i think i broke it
Tetriste [-\]: haha
Kenpachi [6k?\]: O.o
Tetriste [-\]: video stopped
USGO10 [-\]: thats what i'm saying...
hanayeol [4d\]:  blog for practical go http://realbaduk.com
bstem: b never gets to be a kgs 9d, so 9d is equivalent to 1.5p
USGO10 [-\]: sound?
Goprince [3d\]: well i t wasnt working
USGO1 [-\]: their AGA ratings are almost identical
Goprince [3d\]: im getting some sound now
Medriel [1k?\]: sound works...kinda
Medriel [1k?\]: theres a lot of static
bstem: pros may do better in tournaments, they're used to big plays.
USGO10 [-\]: since hane is no good and also extend is questionable
USGO10 [-\]: he plays here
]
;W[hd]
C[USGO10 [-\]: black can afford to hane here
USGO10 [-\]: maybe a jump to the center is more normal
]
(;B[kd]
C[USGO10 [-\]: its now the mosdifficult period of the middle game
USGO10 [-\]: if you make the wrong move, you lose the advantage
USGO10 [-\]: both sides are now very careful
Tetriste [-\]: he's the 10th generation of usgo
USGO10 [-\]: this is a very stubborn play
USGO10 [-\]: i'm todd blatt (baltimore)  typing the translation ofwhat Hane 9p says
]
;W[jd]
C[bstem: too bad i dont know hane9p either
Tetriste [-\]: maybe h14
bstem: what's hane's assessment of the game? b appears to be winning
]
(;B[kc];W[jc];B[kb]
C[USGO10 [-\]: black is very attached to his territry from the start and is not afraid of being attacked
Tetriste [-\]: l18 feels passive
USGO10 [-\]: blacks territory is increased but not much
USGO10 [-\]: taking time
Tetriste [-\]: maybe l14
]
(;W[ka]CR[gf]
C[Tetriste [-\]: or h14
USGO10 [-\]: here
USGO10 [-\]: if b tenuki
USGO10 [-\]: this is the key point for b and for w
USGO10 [-\]: Maeda Ryo 6p is now coming on stage
USGO10 [-\]: switching commentators
USGO10 [-\]: he is commentating and Hane has left
USGO10 [-\]: 10th year in a row he has been at the US Go Congress
bstem: commentating is hard work. did he break a sweat?
USGO10 [-\]: maeda says its hard to comment after mr hane since he is hard to follow
USGO10 [-\]: so he is telling some stories
logan3 [-\]: No reason to check the live feed for stories, as there is no audio.
USGO10 [-\]: there should be audio now
]
(;B[gf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: Maeda was part of Kansai Kiin and now they are part of Nihon Kiin
USGO10 [-\]: live feed is back up
bstem: hane's leaving doesnt bode well for b, he probably didnt want to see a losing pro
USGO10 [-\]: this is the right direction
USGO10 [-\]: move from the weak
USGO10 [-\]: if you playu l14 is the wrong way
]
;W[ig]
C[USGO10 [-\]: Hane left after 1:20 of commentary. he is used to 30 mins at a time in japan
bstem: im a psychologist
USGO10 [-\]: check live feed for stories, i'm not typing the stories
]
;B[gh]
C[bstem: w doesnt get much if b keeps running into the center
Tetriste [-\]: j11?
bstem: on the condition it survives in the end
MrCactu5 [2k\]: i played music for an hour only 30 moves played
Tetriste [-\]: lol
]
;W[ii];B[eh]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is very natural because black tried to reinforce his weakness
USGO10 [-\]: fighting is more entertaining
USGO10 [-\]: american players are more aggressive?  do you think?
FlameBlade [-\]: only the top players.
]
(;W[dh]
C[USGO10 [-\]: its about 50/50 for the poll in the room
];B[ei]
C[xgw09 [1d?\]: it seems b L17 & l18 turn out not that effective?
USGO10 [-\]: on this board here
USGO10 [-\]: if any group is not in danger, then you start yose
USGO10 [-\]: so b is working to protect this group
]
;W[ri];B[qg];W[ph]
C[USGO10 [-\]: white almost starts playing endgame here
USGO10 [-\]: ok, lets vote
USGO10 [-\]: if you think black is ahead, raise your hand
USGO10 [-\]: white?
Medriel [1k?\]: w
Shipper [3k\]: Black ahead on profit that's for sure
Tetriste [-\]: I say black
USGO10 [-\]: in japan... they ask these questions, and no one raises their hand
USGO10 [-\]: so we are thanked for raising
USGO10 [-\]: the pros on stage like white
USGO10 [-\]: since there is potential
USGO10 [-\]: maeda likes cash, so he likes B
USGO1 [-\]: <I raised my hand in my head>
Goprince [3d\]: n3 looks beautiful for w
Tetriste [-\]: b will probably play there first
Goprince [3d\]: yes
]
;B[kf]
C[Tetriste [-\]: :O
Chachi [2k\]: i was looking at that
Tetriste [-\]: I like that
mountains [2k\]: it's easy for white 
Goprince [3d\]: this is such an annoyign move
Chachi [2k\]: breaks into the possible center moyo and threatens to cut
USGO10 [-\]: MAeda played eric lui in 2005
USGO10 [-\]: on a visit to the east coast
iancho [1d\]: we have a pro commentator thanks
]
;W[hf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: So MAeda has lots of memories of eric
USGO10 [-\]: Maeda wants eric to win
Tetriste [-\]: -.-
USGO10 [-\]: blacks move of l14 is trying to reduce white
USGO10 [-\]: he didnt do it earlier since b was weak on the left
USGO10 [-\]: or the other way is to cut everything off
USGO10 [-\]: and play j14
]
;B[kh]
C[Tetriste [-\]: l12?
Tetriste [-\]: :P
USGO10 [-\]: before it wasn't good and now it is
USGO10 [-\]: the move at h14 wants to be at m13
]
;W[jj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: but first he has to rescue the white stones at the top
USGO10 [-\]: so obviousl black comes down
Tetriste [-\]: n13?
USGO10 [-\]: black did what he wanted
Hagios [1d\]: Has anyone had any luck getting audio for the commentary?
Tetriste [-\]: or m11
USGO10 [-\]: b has to win on the board by more than 8
USGO10 [-\]: not a resigning type of game
Tetriste [-\]: komi is 7.5?
USGO10 [-\]: what should B do? try to escape?
rkda [6k\]: I had audio for about 2 minutes, then it dropped out, several reloads later, still no audio
USGO10 [-\]: the power in the center is strong
USGO10 [-\]: its very interesting
Hagios [1d\]: Teriste, komi is 8, B wins ties.  Same as 7.5 in practice.
Tetriste [-\]: ok
USGO10 [-\]: based on maeda's lectures
USGO10 [-\]: e9 is the recommended move
USGO10 [-\]: but on high levels you have to take a chance
Medriel [1k?\]: who is the guy in the blue shirt?
USGO10 [-\]: if you gain more at l3
USGO10 [-\]: Yoshi
USGO10 [-\]: translating
Medriel [1k?\]: not a pro?
USGO10 [-\]: sometimes you have to take the riskier moves
USGO10 [-\]: he's translating and i'm typing what he says
xgw09 [1d?\]: can you show what if b cut off at j14?
Tetriste [-\]: at the end of the sequence b can peep p13 and cut n14
rkda [6k\]: sound is back on comentary...thank you =))
]
(;B[kq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: sound now?
Hagios [1d\]: Yes!
Hagios [1d\]: Thanks
];W[li]
C[USGO10 [-\]: mr maeda predicted l3
USGO10 [-\]: but its risky
]
(;B[mn]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is almost an endgame move
]
(;W[cl]
C[USGO10 [-\]: Shigeko (sp) says b looks killable on th eleft
USGO10 [-\]: lets see
USGO10 [-\]: maeda will try to kill it
USGO10 [-\]: mayube there is only one eye at the top
USGO10 [-\]: maybe one near f13
USGO10 [-\]: Maeda says its close
USGO10 [-\]: i thought this was exciting
USGO10 [-\]: one line off, huge difference... almost endgame
USGO10 [-\]: not fighting
USGO10 [-\]: so this is a good aim
USGO10 [-\]: black may respond somewhere on the bottom left
USGO10 [-\]: maybe c7
]
(;B[cm];W[dl]
C[USGO10 [-\]: so probably there will be some response
];B[gj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is the real game
Tetriste [-\]: whats the time left?
USGO10 [-\]: ask the game
]
;W[jr]
C[AngelC [?\]: last update in USGO1 shows Eric w/ 42 min., and Huiren w/ 34 min.
USGO10 [-\]: second line move
USGO10 [-\]: how many points?
]
(;B[jq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: its worth 15
USGO10 [-\]: f2 is big too
USGO10 [-\]: its for fighting too
USGO10 [-\]: maeda is scared of this
]
;W[kr];B[lr];W[iq];B[ks]
C[USGO10 [-\]: she asks about j2
]
(;W[ir];B[ml]
(;W[bl]
C[USGO10 [-\]: white is again aiming
USGO10 [-\]: this move is just yose? or maybe we're aimin to kill the corner
USGO10 [-\]: this protects the territory and removes the aji
USGO10 [-\]: also coming in for yose
Tetriste [-\]: I have question about reducing black's top right: can white play p18, connecting at n18 or going r17 corner after?
USGO10 [-\]: the pros wont see your questions
USGO10 [-\]: come to congress and ask yourself =)
Jinghua [20k?\]: b5 is better than a5, right?
USGO1 [-\]: Aww
]
(;B[gl];W[hk];B[gk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this way is peaceful
USGO10 [-\]: there is the prediction of the attack on the right side
USGO10 [-\]: the pros think it should happen that way
USGO10 [-\]: who thinkgs B is ahead?
SpenceR [3k\]: o5 seemed better
USGO10 [-\]: less people think w is ahead now in the room
SpenceR [3k\]: i think it's close to even
USGO10 [-\]: less than before
Medriel [1k?\]: i still like w
USGO10 [-\]: just so you know... before the game started, both players signed the board
USGO10 [-\]: the one you see them playing on in the video
USGO10 [-\]: after the game, Hane will sign the board as well
USGO10 [-\]: two years ago, andy oken bought the bought
USGO10 [-\]: he was 4k
USGO10 [-\]: and now he's a few dan
USGO10 [-\]: so.... just sayin
USGO10 [-\]: last year, steve barell bought the board
USGO10 [-\]: last year he was 4d, and now he's 5dan
USGO10 [-\]: so...  we're auctioning off the board
]
(;W[gn]
C[Shipper [3k\]: The amazing strength increasing board
BrunoLi [18k\]: hi hi hi 
USGO10 [-\]: 5 signatures... benefits go to the AGF
USGO10 [-\]: american go foundation
xgw09 [1d?\]: i like the one two years ago better
pistachio [8k\]: w middle looks weak
natsu [7k\]: $5!
natsu [7k\]: jk
]
;B[cj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: w still aims at black and enforces the lower area with g6
BrunoLi [18k\]: hello
USGO10 [-\]: c10 maybe seems like there isnt much plan but
]
(;W[dj];B[di];W[ch]
C[Porkypine [5k\]: How can you not become an awesome player with a name like that
Porkypine [5k\]: If my name were hane I bet I'd be stronger
USGO10 [-\]: we've got another special guest coming up
USGO10 [-\]: kansai kiin
USGO10 [-\]: husband is 9p also
USGO10 [-\]: and she is a former insei
USGO10 [-\]: Yasko imamura is coming up
iancho [1d\]: perky
ChemBoy613 [-\]: i _still_ prefer B
USGO10 [-\]: 31min for White, 22min for black
USGO10 [-\]: her husband is 9p and she is 5d ama
USGO10 [-\]: she is very popular in japan on tv
USGO10 [-\]: b has one eye at the top
]
;B[dk];W[bj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: because of the situation, w got a nice territory
USGO10 [-\]: if w gets the right side all as territory, white will win
]
(;B[ol]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this way is the actual game
];W[ql];B[oi]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this peep is aiming at the clamp at s10
]
(;W[nk];B[om]
(;W[oo]
C[USGO10 [-\]: instead white is aiming at m3
USGO10 [-\]: because of this move
USGO1 [-\]: Is it profitable?
USGO10 [-\]: territorywise, its not as good
USGO10 [-\]: white can lose about 5 points here
USGO10 [-\]: even though they lose 5 poins, white tries to aim 
]
(;B[qo];W[pm];B[jl];W[im];B[hj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: as he said there is one eye up top
USGO10 [-\]: and b is alive now
USGO10 [-\]: the top center white group is still not alice
USGO10 [-\]: white can't cut yet at m3
USGO10 [-\]: so we'll see
USGO10 [-\]: black may gain something with the turning move
USGO10 [-\]: up until recently, Hane was in favor of white
USGO10 [-\]: if nothing drastic happens, white will win
USGO10 [-\]: something in the middle near j11 or s10
USGO10 [-\]: there are many possibilities
USGO10 [-\]: and white lost some profit around s5
Magister7 [9k\]: ..
USGO10 [-\]: when this happens...
USGO10 [-\]: its 19 points in the top right
USGO10 [-\]: its rather difficult to judge what will happen in the middle
]
(;W[mj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this protects the l11 cut
]
(;B[rj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: back by popular demand
Porkypine [5k\]: Shouldn't played be looking at B5 ?
USGO10 [-\]: j9 id nrrfrf
Porkypine [5k\]: players*
USGO10 [-\]: mr hane explained the right side here
USGO10 [-\]: if you resist then you lose the white group
]
(;W[qj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: so what white did in the game is this
];B[si];W[mo];B[lo]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is the move and B hane
USGO10 [-\]: maeda is looking at n4
USGO10 [-\]: from here
USGO10 [-\]: Maeda thinks W cannot be too agressive
USGO10 [-\]: so this is the situation right now
USGO10 [-\]: ok
USGO10 [-\]: auction for the board is tomorrow
USGO10 [-\]: so... fly in for the auction then
USGO10 [-\]: tomorrow at the banquet
XY0908 [-\]: ;-)
Meepy [-\]: i'll send my people
XY0908 [-\]: Can we do online auction?
]
(;W[lp]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if white takes sente then white will jump up top
USGO10 [-\]: and the game could be over
USGO10 [-\]: according to maeda, he likes cash, but maybe the cash doesnt work
XY0908 [-\]: haha
USGO10 [-\]: eric does this hane
USGO10 [-\]: he wants to fight more
USGO10 [-\]: you have to lose some to try to gain
USGO10 [-\]: little investment
USGO10 [-\]: we'll find out whites plan
USGO10 [-\]: maybe this is whites iam
nordlab [-\]: M4 is quite a move..
USGO10 [-\]: you want to take sente and jump across the top corner
USGO10 [-\]: both pros agree if you dont play n1 yet maybe instead of the double hane play n19 first
USGO10 [-\]: do this if you fear you are behind
USGO10 [-\]: if you are ahead then jump across the top
USGO10 [-\]: but maybe they dont have time to count
USGO10 [-\]: Maeda thinks that white is quite ahead
USGO10 [-\]: though hec an't count as accurate as Mr Hane
USGO10 [-\]: if b plays the top now, then W must have punishment at the bottom since the top is big
]
(;B[ko]
C[USGO10 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
USGO10 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
]
;W[lq];B[mr];W[kp]
C[USGO10 [-\]: we played this way before
USGO10 [-\]: if it works, then white is okay
USGO10 [-\]: but maybe white isn't gaining much
USGO10 [-\]: he wants the top
]
;B[jo]
C[Magister7 [9k\]: nope
];W[jp]
C[USGO10 [-\]: but he has to worry about the top center group
USGO10 [-\]: white can't make much territory
USGO10 [-\]: white doesnt need to work this hard
]
;B[ik]
C[USGO10 [-\]: black seems in danger
USGO10 [-\]: so black has to do something to save the center
USGO10 [-\]: he plays this atary
USGO10 [-\]: and blacks move is now aiming at the l10 cut
USGO10 [-\]: so we need to protect, and then its B's move
]
(;W[ij]
C[AngelC [?\]: correct
USGO10 [-\]: this is the actual move
USGO10 [-\]: white can escape like this
message [17k?\]: this must be hard as being a captionist.
message [17k?\]: True...
lose100 [2k?\]: no way did mr. hane say that ...
USGO10 [-\]: maeda's on stage now
pistachio [8k\]: who is maeda?
USGO10 [-\]: 6p
USGO10 [-\]: he's in the video
pistachio [8k\]: <--- is not streaming video : ( should i stream it?
]
(;B[jm]
C[Hagios [1d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3 for video
]
;W[oq];B[op];W[np];B[or]
C[ethanb [1d\]: I don't get video either
USGO10 [-\]: white connects through here
USGO10 [-\]: its not needed since both groups are all alive
]
;W[io]
C[Hagios [1d\]: The video isn't necessary, USGO10 is doing a great job.  However, the video is helpful
USGO10 [-\]: this doesnt gain much
message [17k?\]: It's too bad we can't stream sound through the teaching game system of kgs and a microphone
pistachio [8k\]: yes usgo10 gj today
USGO10 [-\]: if b gets cut in the center then its possible to make two eyes with forced moves, maybe
USGO10 [-\]: they are playing variations to try to live
]
(;B[lk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: maeda also came to this conclusino
USGO10 [-\]: its almost sente
message [17k?\]: I think center group is larger than a few points at the top... than again there could be a situation up there
]
(;W[ki]
C[USGO10 [-\]: according to mr hane's counting, white is getting very close to the goal
USGO10 [-\]: maeda is counting now
]
;B[og]
C[USGO10 [-\]: he has a feeling white is going to win
USGO10 [-\]: he doesn't have a number
USGO10 [-\]: on the board maybe white is ahead
]
;W[pg]
C[USGO10 [-\]: B has to do something
];B[mg]
C[pistachio [8k\]: yellow go board blends in with white stones in the video
USGO10 [-\]: w connected everything
USGO10 [-\]: just incase he got the whole group cut
USGO10 [-\]: through o5
USGO1 [-\]: L7 looks sparkly
]
;W[lg]
C[USGO10 [-\]: so before we didn't know why w connected through there
USGO10 [-\]: but now maybe the whole group could have died
]
;B[lf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: so he connected everything 
USGO10 [-\]: white has one group
USGO10 [-\]: Maeda says if you have 5 groups you'll lose and 6 groups you'll win
xgw09 [1d?\]: if b wins, he will rep the U.S. in the ING cup?
]
;W[ma]
C[xgw09 [1d?\]: i mean w, or whoever
USGO10 [-\]: we think eric counted
USGO10 [-\]: and he realized he is ahead on the board and takes n19
USGO10 [-\]: b was trying to be desperate and fight
USGO10 [-\]: but w is avoiding and this is bigger
USGO10 [-\]: locally, one of the stones near n14 will be captured
USGO10 [-\]: so if you can't save both, naturally tenuki and take the top
climbtrees [7k\]: so, overall, was it a bad strategy on the part of b, or was black doing okay except for a certain move or sequence?
]
;B[lb];W[la]
(;B[ob];W[an];B[bo]
C[Magister7 [9k\]: i think he was fine until p11, which seemed pointless to me
USGO10 [-\]: now w is working on the yose
USGO10 [-\]: about 8 points on the right
USGO10 [-\]: e18 is worth about 8 points too
pistachio [8k\]: w a6 is bigger than b5?
ethanb [1d\]: this one is sente
pistachio [8k\]: ok
]
;W[oa];B[pa]
C[USGO10 [-\]: when you have senta advantage, you want to keep it
];W[na]
(;B[pb]
C[USGO10 [-\]: s6 and e18 and s9 are the places
USGO10 [-\]: Maeda thinks the e18 is biggest
]
(;W[mq]
(;B[pq];W[nn]
C[USGO10 [-\]: b should have taken q6 since  its sente here
USGO10 [-\]: you can't for it
]
;B[mm]
(;W[nf]
(;B[lh];W[ng];B[mh]
C[USGO10 [-\]: Maeda can't undestand what white is doing
pistachio [8k\]: maybe w is under time pressure
USGO10 [-\]: black must have some plan
USGO10 [-\]: he didn't understand *blacks move
]
;W[ok]
C[USGO10 [-\]: not w
];B[jh];W[ih];B[en]
C[USGO10 [-\]: p9 connects top group
USGO10 [-\]: you can cut it if you dont connect with p9
]
;W[eo];B[fn]
C[USGO10 [-\]: according to Maeda, w has crossed the goal line
];W[fo]
C[USGO10 [-\]: nice fight, entertaining game
];B[oh]
C[ethanb [1d\]: goal! start the vuvuzela concert!
nordlab [-\]: Now, I think the only way Eric can lose
]
;W[of]
C[USGO10 [-\]: last year, it was slower... two years ago takemiya started dancing
USGO10 [-\]: salsa dancing with lisa scott
]
;B[mi];W[lj]
C[nordlab [-\]: is if he makes a mistake like this morning
USGO10 [-\]: who is now on the board of directors, and next year's congress codirector
]
;B[mk];W[nj]
C[Meepy [-\]: becoming aga director - the curse of takemiya
];B[rk];W[pl]
;B[qi];W[pi];B[ia];W[ja]
C[USGO10 [-\]: Maeda is recounting and thinks maybe B is ahead on the board
]
;B[eb];W[rn];B[ej]
C[GeorgeW [-\]: Well, that's what komi is for.
];W[sp];B[sq];W[so];B[rq]
;W[dn]
C[Magister7 [9k\]: why does w not play the cut at j8?
];B[el];W[em]
C[pistachio [8k\]: maeda just showed a seq , i cannot quite see it
];B[hm]
C[pistachio [8k\]: i think it was at the top in blacks area
];W[in]
C[Syptryn [3d\]: blacks eems winning by a lot
];B[jk];W[fl];B[ek]
C[xgw09 [1d?\]: b resign?
Syptryn [3d\]: why'd he resign
];W[dm]
C[Syptryn [3d\]: white shoud resign...
];B[ao];W[co];B[bn]
C[FlameBlade [-\]: Syptryn, are you using SE?
];W[bm];B[am]
C[GeorgeW [-\]: C'mon is anyone going to admit that?
Syptryn [3d\]: no, just counting...
FlameBlade [-\]: good point, GW
miguelsan [5k\]: i wish i could use SE but im in the web browser :(
miguelsan [5k\]: i have to count manually :(
Syptryn [3d\]: AGA rules
Syptryn [3d\]: Se dun work
]
;W[da];B[ea];W[ca]
C[USGO10 [-\]: we might have a pro v pro pairgo tomorrow before the banquet
]
;B[jf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: commentated
Syptryn [3d\]: W 38, B50
USGO10 [-\]: myung wan kim vs maeda
USGO10 [-\]: pairgo... xuefen lin with maeda, and cathy li with myung wan kim
USGO10 [-\]: and live commentary
]
;W[if]
C[xgw09 [1d?\]: what time?
];B[ef]
C[USGO10 [-\]: 3pm our time
USGO10 [-\]: ish
xgw09 [1d?\]: thx.  great job USGO10!
Hagios [1d\]: Local time is UTC-7
]
;W[de]
C[Hagios [1d\]: ?
ethanb [1d\]: yep
];B[rl];W[rm]
C[Hagios [1d\]: Thanks
];B[ri];W[ds]
C[GeorgeW [-\]: What is the disagreement?
ethanb [1d\]: I say W+2, we'll see how far off I am :)
]
;B[ar]
C[GeorgeW [-\]: Todd
USGO10 [-\]: sup
GeorgeW [-\]: Maeda still there?
USGO10 [-\]: yea theyre counting
GeorgeW [-\]: Also, when was the last time you missed a Congress?
]
;W[me]
C[USGO10 [-\]: ive been at them all since north carolina
];B[po]
C[GeorgeW [-\]: Sounds about right
Meepy [-\]: it may come down to that ko
]
;W[pn];B[ck]
C[USGO10 [-\]: Maeda and Shigeko disagree and asks for her father
USGO10 [-\]: to count more accurate
]
;W[fg];B[eg];W[gg];B[bk];W[ak];B[dg];W[cg];B[fh];W[ec]
C[USGO10 [-\]: they say its very close
USGO10 [-\]: and Hane sensei i sshaking his head
]
;B[gb]
C[USGO10 [-\]: its very very close game
USGO10 [-\]: black played really hard
USGO10 [-\]: black did well
USGO10 [-\]: the right side area
USGO10 [-\]: big profit
USGO10 [-\]: that right side is the margin of victory
]
;W[sl]
C[USGO10 [-\]: thats what he said earlier
];B[sk];W[sm]
C[USGO10 [-\]: and b got some back at the top left
SinaGo [4k\]: k6?
];B[qk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: in yose, b played capturing the d10 aaaaand the e18 move
]
;W[pk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: black ivaded the right side and got more points there than white
]
;B[cs]
C[USGO10 [-\]: so it makes this game very close
USGO10 [-\]: w has 22 on the left
USGO10 [-\]: and 24 at the bottom
USGO10 [-\]: and 4 on the right
USGO10 [-\]: so 50 pts
]
;W[es]
C[USGO10 [-\]: b has has 23 top right
USGO10 [-\]: inc m13
];B[fk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: fourteen more
USGO10 [-\]: and a little less than seven in the lower left
]
;W[fm]
C[USGO10 [-\]: 15 in the corner in the bottom right
USGO10 [-\]: 59 for black
]
;B[hn];W[ho]
C[USGO10 [-\]: so black will win by 1.5
USGO10 [-\]: mr hane is recounting
]
;B[md];W[jn];B[kn]
C[Dupaaxe [?\]: M1 is cash ? I don`t think so ...
];W[mb]
C[SinaGo [4k\]: k13
];B[mc];W[oe];B[od]
C[Syptryn [3d\]: wite can save h9 now?
];W[js];B[ls]
C[Syptryn [3d\]: o7 o8 l7 m6 l9 l8 j8 m7 h8 
];W[jg];B[kg];W[hi]
C[Syptryn [3d\]: or capture p-8
];B[gi]
C[Syptryn [3d\]: white does not see it?
GeorgeW [-\]: B can just capture H8
GeorgeW [-\]: Try again
]
;W[kk]
C[ethanb [1d\]: you mean m7 m8 at the end there?
Magister7 [9k\]: w should g15, then k15
]
;B[kl]
C[ethanb [1d\]: b just captures 2 stones
];W[je];B[kj];W[il];B[hl];W[kk]
;B[dc];W[ed];B[kj];W[ke];B[le];W[kk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: white has to fight the ko
USGO10 [-\]: if white wins he gains one point
]
;B[bi];W[aj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: normally you can't try to fight this ko
];B[kj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: since if you get cut its too huge
USGO10 [-\]: so you have to be careful
]
;W[ji]
C[USGO10 [-\]: normally white connects
];B[ge];W[he];B[ee];W[al];B[bp]
C[ethanb [1d\]: oh, misread the sequence you wrote, Syptryn - GeorgeW is right
]
;W[kk];B[ff];W[hg];B[kj];W[rg];B[kk];W[nb]
C[FlameBlade [-\]: Will there be anything sort of chinese ko threats in this game?
FlameBlade [-\]: but looking at the ko, doesn't seem like it.
Syptryn [3d\]: G-17 is a point?
]
;B[qg];W[an]
C[ethanb [1d\]: think so
FlameBlade [-\]: nope, it's not
xgw09 [1d?\]: not
FlameBlade [-\]: G17/J17 miai
Dupaaxe [?\]: j 17 miai
Syptryn [3d\]: ya true
]
;B[rg];W[ic];B[hb]
C[ethanb [1d\]: no, wait - w g17, b j17, wg19
nordlab [-\]: Whtie has to stage a dame fight
ethanb [1d\]: but both were points
]
;W[gc];B[am]
C[nordlab [-\]: black has so many ko threats too though... it looks impossible...
]
;W[nr];B[ns];W[an];B[cd];W[bd];B[am];W[nh];B[ni];W[an];B[cf];W[ce];B[am]
;W[nl];B[nm];W[an];B[bf];W[bh];B[am];W[br];B[aq];W[an];B[be];W[cd];B[am]
;W[km]
C[ethanb [1d\]: w has 2 more threats
];B[lm];W[an]
C[ethanb [1d\]: oops, 3 more
ethanb [1d\]: :)
nordlab [-\]: black has 2 more...
]
;B[ad]
C[nordlab [-\]: 3 more...
xgw09 [1d?\]: b 4 more
nordlab [-\]: B13...
nordlab [-\]: white can't win this dame fight
]
;W[ac]
C[nordlab [-\]: and loses the game
];B[am];W[fb];B[fa];W[an];B[ab];W[ae]
;B[am];W[ga];B[ha];W[an]
C[xgw09 [1d?\]: w b3
];B[af]
C[nordlab [-\]: doesn't do anything
xgw09 [1d?\]: right
xgw09 [1d?\]: not a theat
artofjacob [13k\]: b19?
ethanb [1d\]: why didn't b a12?
]
;W[bb];B[am];W[oj]
C[ethanb [1d\]: hmm
];B[gm];W[an];B[go]
C[ethanb [1d\]: oh!
];W[gp];B[am]
C[ethanb [1d\]: no, wait
nordlab [-\]: black has too many threats
FlameBlade [-\]: black isn't going to lose way Mingjiu lost few years ago
]
;W[pe];B[ne];W[an];B[ad];W[aa];B[am];W[hh]
C[nordlab [-\]: he has so many ko threats left...
nordlab [-\]: he's going to get the double pass
]
;B[an]
C[nordlab [-\]: oh, nm
];W[]
C[nordlab [-\]: still, white's behind...
USGO10 [-\]: 8
ethanb [1d\]: 8, b wins ties
USGO10 [-\]: B
USGO10 [-\]: B+3
xgw09 [1d?\]: what went wrong for w at end game?
ethanb [1d\]: exciting game, great commentary! Thanks for relaying, Todd!
USGO10 [-\]: Huiren Yang wins the 2010 NAIM
FlameBlade [-\]: thanks for relaying comments, Todd!
rkda [6k\]: thanks to all the transcribers and comentators =))
wronkth [4k\]: thank you us go
USGO1 [-\]: xgw09: Move 188 maybe the losing move, some reviewers say - d7 is dame, that white can push at a5, then pull back in sente while black makes shape, then white can atari at c9.
]
;B[]
TW[ba][ab][bc][ad:ai][be:bg][ie][cf][bi][qm][en:fn][sn][go][no][ep:fp][hp:ip][mp][fq:gs][jq:kq][hr:hs][is]
TB[ga][qa:sd][fb][lc][oc:pc][se:sf][lg][sh][fi:fj][dj][sj][hk][ll][km][ln][ap][bq:bs][oq][qq:qs][nr][pr:ps][rr:ss][as][ms][os]
C[nordlab [-\]: that's awful
joshowa [-\]: poor poor eric
RyugaAkaL [1d?\]: what was komi?
]
)
(;B[ng];W[lh];B[of]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is more profit for b
]))
(;W[il];B[jk];W[hl]
(;B[kk];W[jn];B[kn]
C[USGO10 [-\]: i missed this sequence
]
(;W[lm];B[in])
(;W[km];B[in];W[lm]))
(;B[in];W[hm];B[lj];W[mi];B[jn];W[kj];B[kk];W[nf])))
(;B[nn]))
(;W[eb];B[ec];W[dc];B[fb];W[da]
C[USGO10 [-\]: there are many ways to reduce up here and maybe this way is the best
USGO10 [-\]: then its B's move
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;B[mh];W[ck]))
(;B[nn];W[no]))
(;B[pk];W[qk];B[oj];W[ok];B[pl];W[oh]))
(;W[ki]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if white needs to protect
])
(;W[il];B[jk];W[hl];B[nn];W[no];B[nl]
C[USGO10 [-\]: live group
Magister7 [9k\]: why play m9 before m19?
])
(;W[kj]))
(;B[];W[il];B[hl];W[jk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: from here
]))
(;B[hl]
C[USGO10 [-\]: cmon harder.. i gotta click the moves too!
]))
(;W[kj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: white can't capture black in the center
];B[ho]
C[message [17k?\]: USGO is typing what the announcers say?
]))
(;B[mp]
(;W[no];B[ko]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is no good for white
])
(;W[ko]
C[USGO10 [-\]: its unusual
];B[no];W[lq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: maybe this is big enough, it could be
];B[kp];W[jp]))
(;B[ko];W[lq];B[mr];W[kp];B[jp];W[jo];B[ip];W[io];B[hp];W[gp];B[ho];W[hn]
)
(;B[il]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if this is sente because of cutting off white
USGO10 [-\]: then b can connect right away
USGO10 [-\]: so b could just connect m3 and the damage is minimum
USGO10 [-\]: so if oyu're ahead you shouldnt fight
USGO10 [-\]: eric is trying to maximize profit and maybe can cause problems
]
)
(;B[lh];W[mh];B[kn];W[lq];B[kj];W[ki];B[jh];W[ih];B[ji];W[ij];B[lj];W[mi]
;B[il]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this maybe is blacks aim
USGO10 [-\]: eric has 10 minutes and my Yang has 8
Magister7 [9k\]: n4\\
]
))
(;W[mp]
(;B[lq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: so b would need th solid connection
USGO10 [-\]: but if you connect thenn
]
(;W[op];B[oq];W[lp];B[ko];W[kp]
(;B[jp];W[jo];B[ik]
C[USGO10 [-\]: b has this other escape
])
(;B[il];W[jp];B[kj];W[ki];B[jh];W[ih];B[ji];W[ij];B[kk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if w attacks too hard then b has the counterattack
USGO10 [-\]: so w must make the decision
]
))
(;W[lp];B[ko];W[kp]))
(;B[lp]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this seems ok but
]
(;W[oq])
(;W[mq];B[mr];W[lq];B[no])
(;W[op]
C[Godaisuki [2d\]: push first?
USGO10 [-\]: but go this way first
Godaisuki [2d\]: yea
]
;B[oq];W[mq];B[mr];W[lq])))
(;W[ma]
(;B[nb];W[na];B[ob];W[oa];B[pb];W[pa];B[qb];W[qa]
C[USGO10 [-\]: you cant stop it like this
])
(;B[ob];W[oa];B[pa];W[na];B[pb])))
(;W[ik];B[ij]
C[USGO10 [-\]: but if you save it
USGO10 [-\]: then theres two cutting points
]
(;W[jk];B[ji]
C[USGO10 [-\]: too dangerous to save it
])
(;W[ji];B[jk];W[hm]
C[ethanb [1d\]: what language was that? :)  USGO10 [-\]: j9 id nrrfrf
];B[ki]
))
(;W[si];B[qi];W[qj];B[pi];W[rk];B[oh]))
(;B[ki];W[kj]))
(;W[lh]
C[USGO10 [-\]: is blocking this way is good enough for white, or not
USGO10 [-\]: if the block here is god enough for the while white group... lets try
]
;B[jh];W[ih];B[jf]
C[Magister7 [9k\]: i don't understand, is this not the real game.
];W[]
(;B[kj])
(;B[if];W[ge]
C[wronkth [4k\]: he's doing variations now
USGO10 [-\]: this is also difficult
]
;B[kj]
C[ethanb [1d\]: no, Magister7 - this is pro commentary on the side
];W[ki]
;B[ji];W[ij]
(;B[jk]
C[Magister7 [9k\]: how do i get back to the main game?
])
(;B[kk];W[il]
C[ethanb [1d\]: USGO1's demo
wronkth [4k\]: usgo1
FlameBlade [-\]: USGO1 board.
Magister7 [9k\]: ty
pistachio [8k\]: h13 
]
)))
(;W[];B[la];W[ja]
C[USGO10 [-\]: the black eye is lost
];B[lb])
(;W[ma];B[ob];W[oa];B[pa];W[na];B[pb])
(;W[an];B[bo];W[ao];B[ap];W[am];B[ar]
C[USGO10 [-\]: 6 points in the lower left
]
(;W[lq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: cut for white
USGO10 [-\]: still not completed yet
])
(;W[rn]
(;B[lq])
(;B[lp]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if its like this, then 17
USGO10 [-\]: ...counting going on
USGO10 [-\]: 45
USGO10 [-\]: 45 b
Godaisuki [2d\]: at least 40 for white?
USGO10 [-\]: could be 25 on the left 13 14 on the bottom
USGO10 [-\]: the right is undecided because of the clamp
USGO10 [-\]: 45 for b
USGO10 [-\]: and 39 for w plus komi
Magister7 [9k\]: can someone please help me. a moment ago i could see all kibitzing comments. then i accidentally closed KGS. and now, i can only see usgo comments
USGO10 [-\]: so whatever few points on the right side matters if white wins
USGO10 [-\]: everything is unsettled but thats whats going on for both sides
]
;W[]
C[Tetriste [-\]: thats because I switched to the main game for kibitzing
]
;B[la];W[ja];B[lb]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if b can afford this, its 8 more points for b
];W[nl]))))
(;B[];W[lq];B[lp];W[mq];B[mr];W[mp];B[mo];W[np]
C[USGO10 [-\]: w easily escapes now
USGO10 [-\]: the ladder condition changed
]
))
(;W[];B[pn]
C[USGO10 [-\]: without p5 b can wedge thru
])
(;W[pn]
C[USGO10 [-\]: solid connection is good
USGO10 [-\]: mr hane likes this option
]
;B[lp]))
(;W[]
(;B[rj]
(;W[qj])
(;W[si];B[qi];W[qj];B[pi]))
(;B[qi])))
(;B[ej]
(;W[ol]
C[AngelC [?\]: sadly, no. His wife, Hane Shigeko, is partnering w/ Maeda Ryo in commentating
SpenceR [3k\]: ahhh
USGO10 [-\]: loooooots of Hane are here
]
)
(;W[jo];B[lp];W[ol]
C[USGO10 [-\]: like this, w will win
USGO10 [-\]: so b has no time to capture white to get the eye on the left
]
)))
(;W[dj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: maybe there is an eye here
];B[di]
C[SpenceR [3k\]: wait Hane Naoki is there?
]))
(;W[ol]
C[USGO10 [-\]: but now maybe w can protect here 
])
(;W[lo]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if white really wants to counterattack
USGO10 [-\]: maybe this way
]
;B[mo];W[lp];B[lq];W[mp];B[np];W[no];B[kn]
C[USGO10 [-\]: the question is if w can get out... maybe not
])
(;W[lp];B[lq];W[np]
C[USGO10 [-\]: maybe counterattack this way
]))
(;B[rj];W[qj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if you attach here and are afraid
USGO10 [-\]: you give it up again
USGO10 [-\]: to minimize damage
]
)
(;B[cj];W[dj];B[di];W[ch];B[bj];W[ej])
(;B[]
(;W[an];B[bo])
(;W[ao];B[bo];W[am];B[ap];W[an]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is the propper way to stop the monkies
Jinghua [20k?\]: y not w b5 first?
]
;B[ar]))
(;B[bm]
C[USGO10 [-\]: maybe since b is already alive then b wont answer
USGO10 [-\]: if you keep answering then w keeps sente all over the palce
]
))
(;W[]
C[Chachi [2k\]: wasnt there a double atari there to get out
]
(;B[rj];W[si];B[qj];W[qi];B[pk]
C[Hagios [1d\]: Chachi, W was always in atari, no time.
];W[ok];B[oj];W[pi]
;B[ol]
(;W[nl])
(;W[nk];B[nl];W[qk]))
(;B[bl])
(;B[cj];W[dj];B[di];W[ch]
(;B[ej])
(;B[bj];W[ej];B[bl]
C[USGO10 [-\]: there is a locigal aim
USGO10 [-\]: the decent blocks this 
]
))))
(;W[ir];B[]
C[USGO10 [-\]: shoudl w connect or no
USGO10 [-\]: we should connect because there is a future aim
]
;W[lq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: can you capture the white stone?
USGO10 [-\]: 50/50
Syptryn [3d\]: yes
USGO10 [-\]: white can escape? depends on the ladder
USGO10 [-\]: lets go
Syptryn [3d\]: M4 doesn't work?
USGO10 [-\]: maeda says he can espace
USGO10 [-\]: so he's playing white
]
;B[lp];W[mq];B[mr];W[mp];B[mo];W[np];B[no];W[op];B[oo]
C[Syptryn [3d\]: m4 n3 n2 n4 n5 o4 o5 p4 p5 p3 p2 q3 q2 r3 s3 r2 r1 
];W[oq]
;B[or];W[pq];B[pr];W[qq]
C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: must read carefully
];B[qr];W[rq]
C[Shipper [3k\]: w escapes
];B[rr];W[sq];B[sp];W[nr];B[sr]
C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: w dies
USGO10 [-\]: maeda says... resign
Syptryn [3d\]: no he doesn't :)
USGO10 [-\]: they read these things instantly, so they dont cut
fdsfjds: lol
]
))
(;B[fr]))
(;B[gj]
C[nordlab [-\]: Eric has a steady style
USGO10 [-\]: She thinks white is attacking
USGO10 [-\]: if B answers here there is punishment
]
;W[bo];B[co];W[bn];B[bp];W[cm];B[];W[em]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if white is able to surround
USGO10 [-\]: then b doesnt have enought o live
]
;B[];W[ds];B[cs];W[ap];B[aq];W[br])
(;B[cm];W[bo];B[co];W[bm];B[bn]
C[USGO10 [-\]: you cant get out this way
];W[an];B[bl];W[am];B[al]))
(;W[fg]
C[MavHunterZ [4k\]: oopps wrong window lol
];B[gg];W[eg];B[gj];W[fh];B[fi]
;W[hi];B[gi];W[cm]
C[nordlab [-\]: It's too bad Eric will never play this sequence
USGO10 [-\]: attachment here is tesuji
USGO10 [-\]: depends on how b answers
]
;B[dn];W[en];B[dm];W[dl];B[em];W[el];B[fm];W[fl];B[gm];W[gl];B[dj];W[ck]
;B[fk];W[ek];B[ej];W[gk]
C[MavHunterZ [4k\]: hmmm this is getting good
MavHunterZ [4k\]: some bloodshed is about to occur
]
))
(;B[];W[ln]
C[USGO10 [-\]: white around here.. its big
]))
(;
AB[kj:kk][lj][jk])
(;B[kj];W[kk];B[lj];W[jk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: there isn't much value on the right there for white
];B[lk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is a good move too
];W[];B[rj];W[si];B[qj];W[qi];B[pk]
C[USGO10 [-\]: there is some here
USGO10 [-\]: maeda likes cash, female pro likes to attack
]
)
(;B[gj]))
(;CR[ch]
C[Medriel [1k?\]: how many people are in the room?
USGO10 [-\]: 300
];W[]
(;B[ch]
C[USGO10 [-\]: 350
Medriel [1k?\]: wow
USGO10 [-\]: he is aiming here
])
(;
AE[ci]
AW[ch][cj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if it were here
USGO10 [-\]: tthen f12 is helping white
]
)))
(;B[la];W[ja];B[lb];W[gf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is prety scary for black
USGO10 [-\]: maybe black will collapse
USGO10 [-\]: so black may tenuki
]
)
(;B[jj];W[ma];B[ob];W[oa];B[pa];W[na];B[pb]
C[USGO10 [-\]: it is very painful for black
]))
(;W[ka];B[la];W[ja];B[lb]
C[USGO10 [-\]: blacks profit is only about 6 or 7
USGO10 [-\]: the left side is worse than the profit gained
]
))
(;B[kc];W[jc])
(;B[kf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: black cant jump this side since the left side is weak
])
(;B[gf];W[if];B[gh]
C[USGO10 [-\]: the game is close play
Tetriste [-\]: I think b can h14 because w can't cut at the risk of dying himself
miao [6d\]: w did good
USGO10 [-\]: since black already has territory and black can take some of the center from white, he has a chance to win
USGO10 [-\]: black is taking moves from white
USGO10 [-\]: the left side
]
;W[]
(;B[cm])
(;B[kq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: these
])
(;B[jq];W[lq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: only two spaces because of this
])))
(;B[jc];W[ic];B[hb]
C[USGO10 [-\]: white can apture
];W[kd];B[kb];W[kc]
C[USGO10 [-\]: he can respond this way to squeeze black
])
(;B[fg]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is his recommendation
Tetriste [-\]: sounds fair
bstem: who's usgo10? he sounds like a guru.
USGO10 [-\]: since white made the large knights move on the left, now he doesn't need to respond
]
))
(;B[jc]
C[Tetriste [-\]: b should stay connected
]
(;W[ic];B[kb];W[hb]
C[Cyphis [1k\]: usgo10, are you a pro?
Tetriste [-\]: 0.o
];B[ja];W[gc]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this keeps it weak
USGO10 [-\]: i'm baltimore... todd blatt 
ChemBoy613 [-\]: USGO10 is transcribing Hane Naoki (misspelled) 9p
USGO10 [-\]: Hane is commenting
FlameBlade [-\]: (usgo10 is transcribing for the pro.)
Tetriste [-\]: this was played?
]
)
(;W[hb];B[ic];W[hc]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this way white is good
]))
(;B[ic];W[jc];B[jd]
C[USGO10 [-\]: an example
Tetriste [-\]: that seemed more natural
];W[hd]
;B[gc]
C[Cyphis [1k\]: oh thx
];W[kd];B[je]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is one possible ex of w response
];W[ke];B[ie]
C[jimmypap [6k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3 here you can see the pro talking (but without sound, unfortunately)
]
;W[he];B[hf];W[if]
C[GeorgeW [-\]: Chemboy: Hane Naoki's father
];B[jf];W[gf];B[ig];W[ge]
C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: oh sorry GW
ChemBoy613 [-\]: it was not clearn to me
Cyphis [1k\]: b win by 3.5. w should resign
]
))
(;W[hb]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is correct
USGO10 [-\]: if w attaches on the left insdead, b will live
USGO10 [-\]: this way wont work
observer12: usgo10 = 1k
USGO10 [-\]: thats why this side is no good
]
;B[hc];W[ic];B[gb];W[jb];B[ha];W[kd];B[hd]
C[USGO10 [-\]: here, b is fine
ChemBoy613 [-\]: B is now invincible
]))
(;B[fg]
C[USGO10 [-\]: just jumping
USGO10 [-\]: or taking at r13
USGO10 [-\]: or L3
slyedoc [6k\]: k10ß
]
;W[le]
C[USGO10 [-\]: even if he is surrounded by white b is already alive
])
(;B[kq])
(;B[qg]
C[Goprince [3d\]: L3
]))
(;W[mp];B[mq];W[kp]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is a guess
USGO10 [-\]: this is scary
USGO10 [-\]: because if it works you win but if you fail you lose
]
;B[jj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: the question is can this parachute landing work
Tetriste [-\]: center is too big, no way b dies
USGO10 [-\]: or can w capture the landing
slyedoc [6k\]: sam is stupid
USGO10 [-\]: mr takemiya is very good at plaing this style
USGO10 [-\]: if takemiya was commenting on this he would speak for hours
USGO10 [-\]: this is not mr hane's style
Tetriste [-\]: there are holes everywhere besides
]
)
(;W[ri];B[qg];W[ph]
C[Tetriste [-\]: same
])
(;W[qg];B[ri];W[qk]
C[slyedoc [6k\]: hey hane!
USGO10 [-\]: both of these ways are not happy for white so probably tenuki
]
))
(;W[qg];B[sg]
C[USGO10 [-\]: b gets some profit and comes in
USGO10 [-\]: its interesting what will happen in the center
USGO10 [-\]: normally white starts to think about making a big territory in the center
USGO10 [-\]: black is taking all the cash
USGO10 [-\]: so if you're thinking in the center
USGO10 [-\]: you need to make abig one and work hard in teh center
USGO10 [-\]: black is consistantly taking the cash
Medriel [1k?\]: will be difficult
]
))
(;B[rh]
C[USGO10 [-\]: b certainly wil clamp
USGO10 [-\]: and white can't decend
]
;W[sg];B[qg];W[qh];B[pg];W[ri];B[of]
C[USGO10 [-\]: equal value
USGO10 [-\]: its bad for white in this sequence
]
))
(;W[qh]))
(;B[ql]
C[USGO10 [-\]: b can still invade
USGO10 [-\]: can w capture? thats the question
]
;W[ol];B[qi];W[qj];B[rj];W[rk];B[rh]LB[rf:B][qk:A]
C[USGO10 [-\]: the sequence going this way
USGO10 [-\]:  A and B are equal options
USGO10 [-\]: so unles white has a countermeasure for this invasion
USGO10 [-\]: its a bit scary
]
))
(;W[];B[ql];W[pl];B[qm];W[pm];B[pn];W[po];B[on];W[oo]TR[qo]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is the difference
USGO10 [-\]: aiming here
USGO10 [-\]: the difference appears after this invasion
]
)
(;W[pm]
C[USGO10 [-\]: the reason to choose p6 vs q7 is
USGO10 [-\]: so he thinks this move is better
USGO10 [-\]: its interesting to see if b invades or not
]
))
(;B[qq]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is the most natural response
USGO10 [-\]: Mr Hane guesses black will respond this way
Goprince [3d\]: wow predicts score already
miguelsan [5k\]: is s5 really sente?
miguelsan [5k\]: how does white punish if black tenukis
Blee25 [11k\]: so solid
]
;W[sp];B[sq];W[so]TR[qq]
C[miguelsan [5k\]: ahh no more sente yose
USGO10 [-\]: this is now perfectly placed
]
)
(;B[pk])
(;B[jq]
C[Goprince [3d\]: s3
USGO10 [-\]: this extension is also an interesting play
USGO10 [-\]: aiming at the escape of f3
]
))
(;W[];B[ql]))
(;B[nf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this is safe
]
(;W[ph]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if w defends
USGO10 [-\]: w would go like this
];B[qe];W[pf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: then this is fine
USGO10 [-\]: and then this way
USGO10 [-\]: in japan, we say this is too condensed
]
;B[oc]
C[USGO10 [-\]: and defend that way
])
(;W[pf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this would never happen
])))
(;B[if]
C[USGO10 [-\]: asking the room here at congress for another way
USGO10 [-\]: to make the j16 stone escape
USGO10 [-\]: anybodyhere know?
Tetriste [-\]: I would k14 or l15 probably
observer12: g16 f16 h18 h17 j17 g18 h16 h19 h14 
pebarefoot [-\]: I have no audio of the commentators
Tetriste [-\]: me neither
pebarefoot [-\]: humph, bummer
]
(;W[gd]
C[lmaJoking [5k\]: is this the one iwth the commentary?
USGO10 [-\]: here is a way to respond
USGO10 [-\]: a congressatenndee
]
;B[fd]
C[Janggo [5d\]: undo/
]
(;W[hf];B[he];W[ie]
(;B[gf];W[jf];B[hg];W[ke])
(;B[hg];W[jf];B[gf];W[ke]
C[MavHunterZ [4k\]: yes
USGO10 [-\]: the ponnuki is pretty big
MavHunterZ [4k\]: this is the one with the commentary
USGO10 [-\]: there is another way
]
))
(;W[hb]
C[Janggo [5d\]: ?
];B[hc];W[ic];B[gb]
C[USGO10 [-\]: nice combination
]
(;W[hd])
(;W[hf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: here and k18 is equal value
];B[he];W[hd];B[ha];W[ge]
(;B[je])
(;B[ie];W[gf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this way is beautiful
USGO10 [-\]: white can escape
]))
(;W[jb])))
(;W[ge];B[gf];W[fd];B[gd];W[he];B[ed];W[hf];B[hg];W[gg];B[ff];W[ig];B[hh]
;W[jg]
C[pebarefoot [-\]: I meant on EuroGo, btw
];B[je]
C[USGO10 [-\]: difficult to capture
USGO10 [-\]: the ponnuki is big for black
USGO10 [-\]: at f16
]
)
(;W[kd];B[kf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: No sound AT ALL? or just too low
Tetriste [-\]: not at all
]
)
(;W[ke]
C[Tetriste [-\]: for the commented video that is
USGO10 [-\]: black can block from the center with l16
]
)))
(;B[if]
C[USGO10 [-\]: then it is big
USGO10 [-\]: but it wont ha[[en this way
]
))
(;W[cj]TR[ch]
C[USGO10 [-\]: more popular this way
USGO10 [-\]: this has a bigger space around c12
USGO10 [-\]: it makes black one space jump a good move
]
;B[fg]
(;W[qj]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if white played here
];B[ch]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this becomes powerful
];W[dh]
C[USGO10 [-\]: fi white atatches?
USGO10 [-\]: room is voting
USGO10 [-\]: c12?
Shipper [3k\]: D13
Tetriste [-\]: c13
USGO10 [-\]: how to respond?
USGO10 [-\]: andy oken is coming up to the stage now
slc2: d11 
Tetriste [-\]: why not simply c13? then jump to c15
USGO10 [-\]: another player comes up
]
(;B[dg]
C[muru [9k\]: B15
];W[eg]
C[slc2: d13 
];B[cg]
C[Tetriste [-\]: c13
];W[ef]
C[USGO10 [-\]: Mr hane is playing variations with a congress atendee
];B[eh]
;W[di]
C[USGO10 [-\]: this way is scary for B
USGO10 [-\]: other ideas?
])
(;B[di];W[ci];B[dg];W[eh];B[eg];W[cg]
(;B[cf];W[bh];B[de];W[ce]
C[GeorgeW [-\]: So close, yet so far
];B[ef];W[bf]
C[USGO10 [-\]: white says thank you
Tetriste [-\]: yea
GeorgeW [-\]: B12 instead of C14 is the move
USGO10 [-\]: B is happy?
Godaisuki [2d\]: =)
]
)
(;B[bh];W[bg]
C[Godaisuki [2d\]: nobi =)
];B[ei]
C[GeorgeW [-\]: Bravo!
USGO10 [-\]: yes this is correct
USGO10 [-\]: Brett Kelly solved this
USGO10 [-\]: 5dan
Godaisuki [2d\]: this isn't 5 dan level =(
]
)))
(;W[dh]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if not he must block
])))
(;B[kd]
C[USGO10 [-\]: if black pincersfrom the right side a battle will start
]
))

