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RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[AGA Professional Qualification Tournament Round 7]PW[Eric Lui]PB[Ryan Li]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2015-01-07]EV[AGA Professional Qualification Tournament Round 7]RO[7]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Mark Lee]RE[B+7.50]
;B[pc]
;W[qp]C[USGO3 [-\]: welcome back to the continuing coverage of the 3rd AGA Pro Qualification Tournament
served [3d\]: I've been looking forward to this match :-)
]
;B[cd]C[Illyria [?\]: I think we all have
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;W[cp]C[served [3d\]: who won nigiri?
USGO3 [-\]: Ryan Li won
USGO3 [-\]: I'm Mark Lee, your recorder for the morning
]
;B[oq]C[Gilders [20k\]: ok thanks mark ;)
]
;W[jq]C[CBlue [?\]: oh the big showdown
sdfsfd: modern pincer
Gilders [20k\]: strange pincer no ?
xedover [?\]: current standings and results: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014
CBlue [?\]: i dont think it's a pincer if your opponent can make a full (2-space) extension
]
;B[qr]C[sdfsfd: strange if you don't look at modern games
Gilders [20k\]: i don't understand ^^ 
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;W[mq]
;B[mp]C[sdfsfd: i thought r2 would be something exciting like q8
wuwei [5k\]: r2 is provocative
]
;W[lp]
;B[nq]
;W[mo]
;B[np]C[Torajiro [-\]: are you 100% sure that black is ryan ?
whuang [4d\]: We can never be too sure
whuang [4d\]: o_o
sdfsfd: r7 
wuwei [5k\]: your doubt is based on what evidence?
USGO3 [-\]: yes. Ryan is Black
Wagaboo [2k\]: r7 ,
]
;W[lq]
;B[pm]C[goodday: P5
]
;W[oo]
;B[no]
;W[on]
;B[mn]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: P5 is good ^^
goodday: b is bad
whuang [4d\]: And what rank do you happen to be, goodday? .-.
martin97 [-\]: this is joseki so far
goodday: 8d
whuang [4d\]: Oh really? .-.
]
;W[lo]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: m5 ?!
]
;B[nn]
;W[om]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: p7 q9 r6 
wuwei [5k\]: I thought he said "bad" as in "evil" or something
]
;B[pk]C[goodday: i mean b shape is bad, sorry for confusing
whuang [4d\]: Ah okay
Gilders [20k\]: R7 ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: mmh what about r7 now
ofbusy [3d\]: w shape not terrible either imo
martin97 [-\]: up to q7 its certainly joseki
]
;W[nl]C[martin97 [-\]: r6 tempting
Wagaboo [2k\]: yreah
Gilders [20k\]: he search to escape in the center ?
sdfsfd: i thought q7 at q6 was normal
sdfsfd: harder to p5 then
served [3d\]: http://ps.waltheri.net/database.html#/game/68814?move=18
]
;B[qn]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: q3 
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;W[qo]
;B[rq]
;W[pe]C[sdfsfd: why do you want to q3
sdfsfd: its pointless
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;B[qg]C[sdfsfd: r3 s2 can be a good exchange
]
;W[nd]C[CBlue [?\]: just r15?
Bombil [3k\]: huh
Bombil [3k\]: is that a joseki?
liquid [-\]: ofc
martin97 [-\]: they already played it this tournament but its considered inferior for w as ffar as i kow
Bombil [3k\]: what is the next move from black?
martin97 [-\]: r15
Bombil [3k\]: yeah r15
Bombil [3k\]: but
Bombil [3k\]: its looks bad for white
]
;B[og]C[martin97 [-\]: well
martin97 [-\]: this is nice move
Bombil [3k\]: r15 r16 q16 r14 s15 q14 s14 
Bombil [3k\]: no
Bombil [3k\]: ?
martin97 [-\]: hm maybe better r15 q16 r16 p17 q18 
Violence [1d\]: Bombil, the usual idea is, if black plays R15, white aims to Q16 and P17 to change the direction
Bombil [3k\]: oh
ofbusy [3d\]: this jump nice direction puts pressure on p7
ofbusy [3d\]: m8 seems logic to me
Bombil [3k\]: yeah
Bombil [3k\]: i dont know if white will M8 or something
Violence [1d\]: I think if M8 black aims to O18 or O17
martin97 [-\]: you want r17 take profit and tell b to do what he wants
Bombil [3k\]: or attack black top right corner
martin97 [-\]: o8 wont die
martin97 [-\]: and i cant find an easy way to profit
ofbusy [3d\]: m8 o18 maybe yes
OneStone [6d\]: The game already looks more or less over
Hofobbefes [1d\]: for whom?
ofbusy [3d\]: better for b you mean ?
OneStone [6d\]: But W has to keep fighitng
]
;W[nj]C[OneStone [6d\]: p17 q16 r15 would be my choice
goodday: white is much better
OneStone [6d\]: B's stones are much more efficient
OneStone [6d\]: if k3 had been at h4, I would say it was even.
]
;B[oe]C[ofbusy [3d\]: i m not sure b wants to let w a ponnuki here...
]
;W[pi]
;B[qi]C[OneStone [6d\]: it's not a ponnuki in the first place
]
;W[of]C[OneStone [6d\]: w is thinking of combining r8 q8 s6 and p16 q16 p14 or p16 q16 r15 or so
OneStone [6d\]: q14 p16 r15 q16 r16 is still good for B
swedish1k [6d\]: r15 better at q16
]
;B[ne]C[whuang [4d\]: Such interesting moves
killrducky [1d?\]: Who are the players? 
ofbusy [3d\]: b wants to fight...
OneStone [6d\]: o14 n15 q14 and on
ofbusy [3d\]: w eric lui , b ryan li
OneStone [6d\]: B wants to fight because he has a bad position
swedish1k [6d\]: you just said black has a good position
]
;W[pf]C[martin97 [-\]: i think he has a perfect place to start a fight
OneStone [6d\]: q12 
profan [-\]: p12
OneStone [6d\]: p12 is not a move
OneStone [6d\]: but p11 is
]
;B[ph]C[profan [-\]: agree
killrducky [1d?\]: Anyone know which board is Eric vs Ryan? 
OneStone [6d\]: But B plays the pro move
OneStone [6d\]: yes this game
profan [-\]: check on options/rules
Violence [1d\]: Q16?
OneStone [6d\]: r17 looks more likely
killrducky [1d?\]: I did check, maybe Cass I'm on a phone I can't see
OneStone [6d\]: q16 p16 p17 looks like an overplay
CBlue [?\]: wO13?
OneStone [6d\]: this board, killrduck
CBlue [?\]: the phone client costs a lot, yet it's not that great..
killrducky [1d?\]: And who is what color? 
CBlue [?\]: w is eric, b ryan
killrducky [1d?\]: Thx
profan [-\]: check Options/Rules menu forgame info 
USGO3 [-\]: Ryan is Black and Eric is White
xedover [?\]: they really should fix the mobile app to fix that oversight
profan [-\]: ops
]
;W[nf]C[CBlue [?\]: xedover, they = wms. he pulls a one-man-show with kgs.
AAAAAAAAAA [6d\]: wms takes help with developing html client
]
;B[me]C[AAAAAAAAAA [6d\]: don't know about mobile app
CBlue [?\]: wow, what a shift in paradigm
AAAAAAAAAA [6d\]: yes, out of blue. this just in few days ago.
OneStone [6d\]: r17 q16 r16 r18 s18 q18 s14 looks so so, but better for B
]
;W[pd]C[OneStone [6d\]: p16 q16 p18 looks too aggressive
]
;B[od]
;W[qc]C[OneStone [6d\]: r17 q18 r18 s15 
]
;B[oc]C[martin97 [-\]: s16
Violence [1d\]: s16
OneStone [6d\]: p17 looks tame
OneStone [6d\]: s16 is good now
OneStone [6d\]: if s16 n9 o9 n12 
ofbusy [3d\]: comparing to the o16 w keima position i think w has improved
martin97 [-\]: b is so thick
]
;W[hc]C[OneStone [6d\]: not really
Violence [1d\]: mmmm
Violence [1d\]: Can Eric handle all of his burdens?
Violence [1d\]: It looks hard
martin97 [-\]: well w agrees with me ;)
OneStone [6d\]: k17 looks goodbut e17 also looks good
]
;B[mk]C[OneStone [6d\]: But B starts the attack
OneStone [6d\]: In other words, h17 was not urgent
ofbusy [3d\]: n8 ?
jwc [-\]: k3 looks like a 20k extension
ThiGar [4k\]: n9 allows P9
CBlue [?\]: what would have been better than h17, ws16 or something like wo12?
bert [2d?\]: q10 
OneStone [6d\]: p9 q8 
CBlue [?\]: i mean would wo12 been a playable move?
OneStone [6d\]: no
ThiGar [4k\]: E16 directly would have been much bigger than H17
]
;W[ok]
;B[pl]C[OneStone [6d\]: no
clydesdale [3k\]: i guess this game is the decider
OneStone [6d\]: p9 is just bad
Violence [1d\]: No, this game doesn't decide it all
ThiGar [4k\]: this game may decide first place of the round robin
lance [1k\]: This could be the first round of the final.
clydesdale [3k\]: there are more games to come?
ofbusy [3d\]: well p8 aji still here...
]
;W[ml]
;B[ec]C[xedover [?\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014
OneStone [6d\]: l17 r18 
]
;W[kc]
;B[qb]C[ofbusy [3d\]: w "just" has to connect his 2 groups :p
]
;W[mf]C[OneStone [6d\]: o13 o12 n12 doesn't quite work,but almost
OneStone [6d\]: so W wants n14 m15 n12 
indianayk [5d?\]: this game counts if they should meet in the final
bert [2d?\]: w didnt handle b n9 peep well, should have just connected
]
;B[lf]C[jotty [2d?\]: how much time do they get 
elianovici [4d\]: option>rules :)
]
;W[oh]C[USGO3 [-\]: remaining time: B:67Minutes W:45Minutes
]
;B[lk]C[jotty [2d?\]: thanks
]
;W[pg]
;B[qh]
;W[ll]
;B[ol]
;W[nm]
;B[nk]
;W[oj]
;B[kk]
;W[lg]
;B[kl]
;W[lm]
;B[kg]
;W[kf]
;B[le]
;W[kh]
;B[jg]
;W[li]
;B[ep]
;W[gp]
;B[en]
;W[cm]
;B[dl]
;W[dm]
;B[em]
;W[el]
;B[dj]
;W[fl]
;B[cl]C[Bahamut [2k\]: Is only one player awarded AGA pro status for this tournament?
]
;W[bl]
;B[bk]
;W[bm]
;B[cq]C[killrducky [1d?\]: Yes bahamut
]
;W[bq]C[Bahamut [2k\]: ok thanks, the usgo site says "winners"
]
;B[gn]C[rs2 [11k\]: "In the modified single-elimination tournament, one player will emerge with the designation of Professional..."
rs2 [11k\]: From the site saying that Li & Lui locked up top seeds going into this game
]
;W[hm]C[Borachon [3k\]: So, what's the point of the initial seeding in the tournament if the round robin determines seeding for elimination?
AAAAAAAAAA [6d\]: normal procedure
USGO2 [-\]: it breaks ties
wikipwnia [3k\]: looks hard for black
USGO2 [-\]: nominally
wikipwnia [3k\]: how does white make g6 group strong?
wikipwnia [3k\]: without ruining his l8 group?
wikipwnia [3k\]: am i asking the right question?
Borachon [3k\]: usgo, so it uses initial seeding to break ties as opposed to SOS or some other tiebreak?
Illyria [?\]: there's no SOS in round robin
Borachon [3k\]: true, true
Illyria [?\]: there are 3 tiebreaks
Illyria [?\]: seeding is the 3rd one
Borachon [3k\]: thx
wikipwnia [3k\]: is this game going to have a bloody end?
]
;B[hn]C[wikipwnia [3k\]: (and why are people not talking about the game?)
Dalan [-\]: many people are in Myungwans demo
Dalan [-\]: he is discussing the game
Illyria [?\]: eric's games rarely have a bloody end unless he loses
Illyria [?\]: otherwise, he takes exactly as much as he needs from fights to secure a solid 5-10 point lead
]
;W[in]C[vwplayer: w is behind, so got the play strong moves
]
;B[im]C[Grunman [11k\]: looks like b's getting uooer left huge territory
SirWeej [8k\]: How do you find the Demo?
Dalan [-\]: top of active games
SirWeej [8k\]: got it!  thanks
]
;W[il]C[Grunman [11k\]: w can't handle it all
]
;B[jm]C[r0n1n [4k\]: o7 /e4 big exchange coming?
]
;W[ln]C[wikipwnia [3k\]: b crushing now - wow
]
;B[hp]C[wikipwnia [3k\]: yes! that was my move
wikipwnia [3k\]: epic
]
;W[jn]C[easyrobot [3k\]: J3
will122166 [1d\]: now black needs to run out
will122166 [1d\]: it seems
bert [2d?\]: h8 
]
;B[hl]
;W[gm]C[bert [2d?\]: h9 
]
;B[hj]C[rs2 [11k\]: USGO3, how is the time for the players?   (And thanks for transcribing!  I love the suspense - even if much of this is beyond me.)
]
;W[ej]
;B[di]C[USGO3 [-\]: remaining time: B:31Minutes and W:19Minutes
]
;W[ei]C[rs2 [11k\]: Thanks - I suspected a disparity
]
;B[dh]C[served [3d\]: b is banking lots of cash
]
;W[ik]
;B[hk]
;W[eh]
;B[eg]
;W[gh]
;B[hh]C[liquid [-\]: h12  now?
easyrobot [3k\]: it will end in KO
]
;W[hg]C[Bombil [3k\]: this is the final or there will be play-off after?
Borachon [3k\]: this is the end of the round robin
spacetime [4d\]: most likely these two will meet again in the finals, where this game will count as the first of a best of three
spacetime [4d\]: so pretty important but not decisive
Borachon [3k\]: after this, players are seeded into an elimination, with their matches from the round robin counting as the first of their best-of-X matches in the eliminiation bracket
Borachon [3k\]: so if these two players meet int he final round, this will count as the first of those matches
wikipwnia [3k\]: Who are the players?
wikipwnia [3k\]: (and what are their KGS names?)
Borachon [3k\]: look at the clocks for player names
wikipwnia [3k\]: Oh thx
rs2 [11k\]: I translate that this match is likely crucial in determining who the next AGA professional will be
USGO3 [-\]: Black: Ryan Li, White: Eric Lui
rs2 [11k\]: Since these two are 6-0, one of them will have a one-game lead going into a final, if they meet there
Grey28 [3d\]: j12
dinosaur [1k\]: also they are brothers and they are both in love with the same woman
psygo [3k\]: what?
dinosaur [1k\]: this game will be used as a paternity test
skwisgaar [2d\]: lol
kmr [1d\]: lol
wikipwnia [3k\]: lol
psygo [3k\]: thats serious?
rs2 [11k\]: Nothing goes with suspense like levity!  lol
kmr [1d\]: yeah
kmr [1d\]: but htath was secret
dinosaur [1k\]: it's very serious
wikipwnia [3k\]: is b in trouble?
psygo [3k\]: very complex game
]
;B[fm]
;W[gl]
;B[ek]
;W[fk]
;B[fj]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]C[skwisgaar [2d\]: heres our ko
wikipwnia [3k\]: does w need to fight this ko? or can he just f13 and connect?
Xiang8: is it really a ko?
minimalist [2k\]: g10 
Xiang8: what if w just g10 now?
Wagaboo [2k\]: it's really a ko
wikipwnia [3k\]: hm
GodofGo [6d\]: if b lives w is lacking them points 
Wagaboo [2k\]: the endgame is complicated 
Grunman [11k\]: no endgame still
Kamoro: If b gets another move, he can squeeze at G9, white connects, F12, F/G11
t3suji [2d\]: and if w gets another move, he can fix both e9 and f13
t3suji [2d\]: so?
]
;W[gj]C[minimalist [2k\]: h3 is bad?
]
;B[ek]
;W[fi]
;B[hi]C[wikipwnia [3k\]: its just small compared to this
wikipwnia [3k\]: i think?
]
;W[gg]C[mkeller [1d\]: h3 not so important for now
]
;B[gi]C[minimalist [2k\]: b g6 in danger maybe
]
;W[dk]
;B[ig]C[Borachon [3k\]: d is for dango. it's good enough for b.
minimalist [2k\]: if w sente
Wagaboo [2k\]: j12 
minimalist [2k\]: tengen
wikipwnia [3k\]: k10?
Wagaboo [2k\]: i think if w j12 w wins
wikipwnia [3k\]: what's the solution to w j12
vwplayer: j12 is a good move
Wagaboo [2k\]: i don't find good answer after w j12 :/
Demonstyle: Probably sacrifice the 6 stones while connecting the others
Wagaboo [2k\]: not good enough because of l15 
wikipwnia [3k\]: b connect 
]
;W[ih]C[wikipwnia [3k\]: and simply win
wikipwnia [3k\]: with more points
Demonstyle: B can fix L15, possibly in sente
Demonstyle: Still has solid territory.
Ebisu [2k\]: k10 not enough for W it seems?
Grunman [11k\]: looks like B is tired and wants to kill rapidly
mkeller [1d\]: ko doesnt work anymore?
wikipwnia [3k\]: k12 has to be?
]
;B[jh]
;W[ji]
;B[ii]C[easyrobot [3k\]: misclick or undo :v
]
;W[jj]C[USGO3 [-\]: sorry 
skwisgaar [2d\]: no undo in real games
Grunman [11k\]: yep))
easyrobot [3k\]: just joking
Grunman [11k\]: and no misclick
]
;B[ie]C[Ebisu [2k\]: one can drop the stone
wikipwnia [3k\]: try to make semeai? 
mkeller [1d\]: get sente at least
Illyria [?\]: I think he just wanted to capture the middle stones in sente
GodofGo [6d\]: b gonna surround whole of w then kill top
xedover [?\]: I was recording a game a few years ago when one of the players made an obvious bad move. we asked him about it afterwards and he said, "I misclicked"
Grunman [11k\]: so it is called mistake, no?
USGO3 [-\]: W start countdown, B :16Minutes
]
;W[he]C[rs2 [11k\]: Rules say 5x 0:40 - exciting...
Grunman [11k\]: now w in a better position?
psygo [3k\]: nope
GodofGo [6d\]: h16 
wikipwnia [3k\]: b should j3 or somethin?
Grey28 [3d\]: +1
donner [3d?\]: w problems not over .. yet
Grey28 [3d\]: h16
vwplayer: w G3 may kill b
Warfreak2 [4d\]: j16 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: j16 captures l14
]
;B[hd]C[mkeller [1d\]: so fierce
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w j16 now?
psygo [3k\]: gosh, this is gonna hurt
donner [3d?\]: big exchange
spacetime [4d\]: then b h14
]
;W[ge]C[Grey28 [3d\]: j16 was fun here o:
psygo [3k\]: if he lives in gote, black fies the bottom and simply wins, right?
]
;B[id]
;W[gd]C[easyrobot [3k\]: w + res
easyrobot [3k\]: over
liquid [-\]: huh?
bert [2d?\]: that was easy
liquid [-\]: black will play on bottom
wikipwnia [3k\]: easyrobot that's nonsense?
Ebisu [2k\]: if all my opponents were resigning so quickly...
rinkaio [1k\]: yes it is not over
rinkaio [1k\]: black can win still
wikipwnia [3k\]: if b resigns here then he doesn't deserve to win lol
psygo [3k\]: i agree
]
;B[gc]C[psygo [3k\]: :O
]
;W[fc]C[Ebisu [2k\]: what is the reason to resign to begin with?
Grey28 [3d\]: hmm
Ebisu [2k\]: B's ahead
psygo [3k\]: so aggressive
]
;B[gb]C[USGO3 [-\]: remaining time B:10Minutes, W 40/4
]
;W[ic]C[rinkaio [1k\]: wow
skwisgaar [2d\]: nice
Borachon [3k\]: omehgerd
Grunman [11k\]: Eric must be a tough guy
wikipwnia [3k\]: k17
Grey28 [3d\]: Nice move
]
;B[fd]C[alias [6k\]: w k15 ?
GodofGo [6d\]: whoa it is on
Illyria [?\]: l15?
easyrobot [3k\]: semiai
wikipwnia [3k\]: i thought l15
qgo [3k\]: l 15
rinkaio [1k\]: k15
]
;W[jd]C[GodofGo [6d\]: wow i have found a sequence that leads to an epic seki lmao
]
;B[mg]
;W[lh]C[wikipwnia [3k\]: What is this crazy
mkeller [1d\]: looks like w has it
psygo [3k\]: yeah
wikipwnia [3k\]: why f16\\
wikipwnia [3k\]: seems foolhardy
vwplayer: what is the time left for both players?
Borachon [3k\]: w in byo yomi
rs2 [11k\]: And black had 10 min a few min ago
rinkaio [1k\]: b has about 10 min
USGO3 [-\]: B:5minutes W: 40/4
]
;B[if]C[Illyria [?\]: whoa
Illyria [?\]: does this work?
rinkaio [1k\]: I was afraid to watch a boring game between them but it did not happend :)
Sent [2k\]: that doesn't work...
minimalist [2k\]: w must f15 ?
USGO3 [-\]: W 40/3
]
;W[fe]C[rinkaio [1k\]: e16
Illyria [?\]: e16 and b is dead no question
Bahamut [2k\]: Any body language comments USGO?
wikipwnia [3k\]: why not black l15 here
wikipwnia [3k\]: try to salvage what you can
bleen [1d\]: l15 makes w dying
Illyria [?\]: that's probably what he's going to have to do
liquid [-\]: so white wins
will122166 [1d\]: k15 is better
will122166 [1d\]: since it reduces a liberty
USGO3 [-\]: Black start countdown.
will122166 [1d\]: but that didnt work either
bleen [1d\]: k15 still a bad ko
ss33 [3d\]: I think B is in trouble
bleen [1d\]: yeah
]
;B[ke]C[wikipwnia [3k\]: :)
]
;W[fb]
;B[eb]
;W[fa]
;B[ed]C[GodofGo [6d\]: huh
donner [3d?\]: its not over till its over
TDK [1d?\]: only moves all of this, no?
]
;W[hb]
;B[ek]
;W[fh]C[Illyria [?\]: b can fix bottom now?
rinkaio [1k\]: he has to
Thazz [2d?\]: d3 now
wikipwnia [3k\]: d3
]
;B[dq]C[wikipwnia [3k\]: yes
Grunman [11k\]: w can fix too
]
;W[br]C[GodofGo [6d\]: huh b still winning imo
Timk [1d\]: it's close now
]
;B[co]C[wikipwnia [3k\]: i think godofgo is right
]
;W[bo]C[bert [2d?\]: b was wise enough to save his bottom eventually
Timk [1d\]: what is the best way to take r17 for black ?
]
;B[dp]C[Timk [1d\]: s16 ? or just atari ?
]
;W[bp]
;B[hq]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: s16 s17 
]
;W[qq]
;B[rr]C[Borachon [3k\]: yose time
Warfreak2 [4d\]: oh, s17 doesn't work
]
;W[rn]C[GodofGo [6d\]: warfreak don't forget there's still o13
Warfreak2 [4d\]: but still, capture should be better
GodofGo [6d\]: yea
Timk [1d\]: ok
]
;B[pj]C[Grunman [11k\]: w cant make 2 eyes around k4?
gjghjgj: bkacj should remember to e19
gjghjgj: it could be white sente soon
]
;W[oi]C[wolokom [5k\]: very complycated
rinkaio [1k\]: s15
]
;B[ea]
;W[ga]C[wolokom [5k\]: s 7
]
;B[rm]C[rinkaio [1k\]: j2
rinkaio [1k\]: or d14
]
;W[mb]C[mkeller [1d\]: I'm looking forward to a review of this game, because I can safely say that I didn't get anything of what happened in the upper left...
wolokom [5k\]: s 17
]
;B[rc]
;W[qd]C[GodofGo [6d\]: s16 s15 r14 r15 t15 
bleen [1d\]: there is a review right now
]
;B[nb]C[wolokom [5k\]: where
villawo [3k\]: top of active games
bleen [1d\]: 9p does
]
;W[pn]C[rinkaio [1k\]: too slow, b should ignore
USGO3 [-\]: B 40/4
]
;B[qm]
;W[rf]
;B[rg]C[USGO3 [-\]: W 40/2
]
;W[mc]C[bbio [5k\]: go ryan
]
;B[ir]C[Thazz [2d?\]: s16 looks huge
]
;W[je]C[will122166 [1d\]: B is too far ahead
will122166 [1d\]: according to Myungwan
]
;B[jf]C[GodofGo [6d\]: d13 
]
;W[es]
;B[er]
;W[jr]
;B[io]
;W[jo]
;B[cn]
;W[bn]
;B[cr]
;W[cs]
;B[ds]C[ThiGar [4k\]: e15 d15 d14 e14 c15 d13 ?
]
;W[dr]
;B[fs]C[GodofGo [6d\]: ??
]
;W[ef]C[ThiGar [4k\]: c15 d16 d13*
]
;B[df]C[Grunman [11k\]: can w f2?
bert [2d?\]: he can
]
;W[fg]
;B[dg]C[Borachon [3k\]: but not usefully :)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w can do what he wants
GodofGo [6d\]: i was wondering if w could d13
Thazz [2d?\]: he could try d14 i think
bert [2d?\]: but will not
]
;W[ee]C[Thazz [2d?\]: d13 looks too deep
]
;B[de]C[GodofGo [6d\]: d14 wouldn't work
]
;W[rd]
;B[rb]C[GodofGo [6d\]: because b c9 grp was weak
GodofGo [6d\]: d13 might have worked
Thazz [2d?\]: d14 aims at the same group ;-)
]
;W[nr]
;B[or]C[ThiGar [4k\]: d13 would have fallen to a ladder
]
;W[mr]C[GodofGo [6d\]: no
]
;B[ro]
;W[rp]C[ThiGar [4k\]: what was the whole variation starting with d13?
]
;B[sn]C[Thazz [2d?\]: both moves didn t work, as the c9 group wasn t weak enough
]
;W[sp]
;B[os]C[River [2d\]: thank you
]
;W[ak]
;B[aj]C[Grunman [11k\]: j4 sente
]
;W[al]
;B[bj]C[USGO3 [-\]: W 40/1
]
;W[dn]
;B[do]
;W[qf]C[Grunman [11k\]: or w g1
]
;B[sf]
;W[se]
;B[sg]C[herissondu [5d\]: b+
herissondu [5d\]: 7.5
]
;W[sq]
;B[sr]
;W[ip]
;B[ho]
;W[iq]
;B[hr]C[psygo [3k\]: isnt q3 sente?
herissondu [5d\]: it is
]
;W[nc]C[psygo [3k\]: so why not?
]
;B[ob]C[herissondu [5d\]: wait a little
Emanon [2k\]: only 1 point b might ignore
mkeller [1d\]: n18 more sente for example
]
;W[kd]C[mkeller [1d\]: b certainly won't ignore, but there are bigger moves left
]
;B[ma]C[sprouts [2k\]: no, its sente for life
Truelie [14k\]: q3 q2?
r0n1n [4k\]: looks like b not gonna play it anyway
]
;W[la]C[mkeller [1d\]: n19 is bigger than q3 for example
]
;B[na]
;W[lc]C[herissondu [5d\]: q3 obvious sente, if b gets it it's not good
herissondu [5d\]: and it's something like 2.5 points
]
;B[pq]C[r0n1n [4k\]: o_O
sprouts [2k\]: haha xD
mkeller [1d\]: n19 was bigger though
Holub [1d\]: no
skwisgaar [2d\]: b+5 or so
herissondu [5d\]: yes, they do this kind of thing in pro games ometimes too, i never understand
Truelie [14k\]: what about r10?
]
;W[bs]C[Holub [1d\]: q3 + q2 kills so n19 not bigger
psygo [3k\]: yeah, but why not q3 then do whatever you wanna do?
mkeller [1d\]: for b that is
mkeller [1d\]: if w q3, then b must answer obviously
mkeller [1d\]: 10k tsumego
]
;B[ds]C[Holub [1d\]: so he should have played it...
psygo [3k\]: it still guarantees a possible eye later saving the need for connection
psygo [3k\]: similarly the timing on d6 seemed odd to me
]
;W[so]
;B[rn]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: j10 
]
;W[is]C[gjghjgj: wgat does SE say?
]
;B[sc]C[redreoicy [3d\]: the way the game played out q3 was only 1 pt sente
]
;W[sd]C[redreoicy [3d\]: so no loss for w
]
;B[hs]
;W[js]
;B[ns]
;W[ms]C[Grunman [11k\]: but then q4+q5 were an eye, now not
]
;B[ij]
;W[jk]
;B[hf]
;W[gf]
;B[dk]C[herissondu [5d\]: if w q3, he could then p4 and make 2 more points
herissondu [5d\]: so it's obviously more than 1pt sente
harpo [?\]: ?
redreoicy [3d\]: if w q3 b would get p4 in sente or w would have to give up t5
skwisgaar [2d\]: huge win
mkeller [1d\]: p4 is 2 points in gote 
skwisgaar [2d\]: great for ryan
]
;W[ld]
;B[kf]C[herissondu [5d\]: not before w plays t5
]
;W[fj]
;B[ih]
;W[md]
;B[gk]
;W[op]
;B[pp]
;W[po]
;B[mm]C[redreoicy [3d\]: aka
psygo [3k\]: w wouldnt play p4 right away obviously
redreoicy [3d\]: q3 q2 m17 p4 
GodofGo [6d\]: b+++
herissondu [5d\]: actually 2 points was one of the biggest yose at the time
mkeller [1d\]: then just leave the bottom right be and play bigger moves elsewhere
redreoicy [3d\]: w reduces bot r by 1
redreoicy [3d\]: and b gains one point at s6
mkeller [1d\]: n19 was bigger
redreoicy [3d\]: so w gains 0 pts from q3
psygo [3k\]: white didnt have t5 yet red
redreoicy [3d\]: im very aware of that
herissondu [5d\]: so b doesn't really get a point at s6...
redreoicy [3d\]: b plays t5 later in sente
redreoicy [3d\]: which gets a point at s6..
herissondu [5d\]: because after w p4 it's w's privilege to t5
USGO3 [-\]: B won 7.5
MusicQi [-\]: ty usgo
Borachon [3k\]: quite a game
redreoicy [3d\]: its not w privilege to t5 since w can't p4 before m17
rs2 [11k\]: Thanks again Mr. Lee (USGO3)
redreoicy [3d\]: then b plays p4
SirWeej [8k\]: Thanks for recording/broadcasting!
USGO3 [-\]:  thanks for watching
vwplayer: thank you
Illyria [?\]: thanks usgo3
USGO1 [-\]: Next round is at 4p this afternoon
USGO1 [-\]: thanks Mark Lee for recording!
xedover [?\]: next round: <gmt>2015-01-07 21:00</gmt>
]
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