(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[AGA Pro Qualification Tournament - Ben Lockhart vs Ryan Li]PW[Ben Lockhart]PB[Ryan Li]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2015-01-06]EV[AGA Pro Qualification Tournament]RO[6]PC[Hull, MA]US[Mark Lee]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pc]C[KochKoch [1d\]: lets go ben
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;W[qp]C[aa [3d\]: cool
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;B[oq]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: super ben
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;W[dq]C[U [?\]: ryan is still undefeated at 5-0, ben is 4-1 only losing to eric lui
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;B[cd]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: ben for pro
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;W[pe]C[U [?\]: im rooting for ben too but i think itll be ryan
U [?\]: not jut this game, for pro
Hofobbefes [1d\]: d3 make p3 a bit weird imo
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;B[ph]C[fdd [3k?\]: how many go onto the playoffs?
fdd [3k?\]: is it top 4?
served [3d\]: all go to the single-elimination round, but ranked based on the round robin results
fdd [3k?\]: ok
KochKoch [1d\]: anyone know why theres no bill lin/hugh zhang/gianing gan? all are very strong
fdd [3k?\]: ty
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;W[ne]
;B[nc]
;W[pj]
;B[ql]C[Muttley [2k\]: Bill's at uni in Chicago I think
Quinn [?\]: Go Ben!
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;W[ok]
;B[po]C[Needham [5k\]: Is this Spring Break time for most college students?
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;W[qo]
;B[pn]
;W[qn]
;B[pm]C[sleazypnut [2d\]: spring break is in spring
KochKoch [1d\]: prob most schools are on break yes
Quinn [?\]: Some college students may still be in Winter Break
Needham [5k\]: sorry, i am so out of touch.  
socrates7 [6k\]: some schools have early spring Break in january :)
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;W[pr]C[Needham [5k\]: when are the finals?
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;B[nh]C[Muttley [2k\]: couple of days away
Surrounded [1d\]: thursday/friday
Warfreak2 [4d\]: super ben
wyvern [?\]: So regardless of how many games one has won or lost, whoever wins four games in a row beginning tomorrow afternoon will be our next pro?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: not quite
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;W[qc]
;B[qb]
;W[qh]
;B[qg]
;W[pg]C[wyvern [?\]: it's not just a single elimination with seeds?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it is, but each round is a best of 3 match
lance [1k\]: RR results carry over
Herod [-\]: the result of the game in the round robin is the first game of the match
wyvern [?\]: ah, i see.  thanks
Warfreak2 [4d\]: so four wins might get you all the way through the knockout, or it might only win two rounds
Warfreak2 [4d\]: depending on how you did against the opponent in the round robin
Quinn [?\]: And are we selecting the top 2 players to become pro?
Herod [-\]: Top one
Warfreak2 [4d\]: one pro, afaik
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;B[og]C[Quinn [?\]: gotcha
Warfreak2 [4d\]: then the next two qualify for next year's tournament
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i can't get behind r12
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;W[pf]
;B[qi]
;W[rh]
;B[pi]C[Quinn [?\]: Booooom
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;W[rg]C[daniug [2d\]: b excelent?
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;B[qd]C[cheerup: good for b
pwnnuki [1d\]: go ben!
killmejk [4k\]: this is to become a professional?
Quinn [?\]: Looks like we got a lot of Ben fans :D
pwnnuki [1d\]: ::pwnnuki in room USGO3 has won 1.0 x 10^23 points for cheering :::
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;W[qj]C[killmejk [4k\]: how strong are these guys on kgs? 1k
lance [1k\]: black should have R10?
aa [3d\]: about 8d
agony [5k\]: no, they are 4k
Warfreak2 [4d\]: strong enough to lift two sacks of potatoes
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;B[ri]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: no, r16 is hugenormous
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;W[rj]C[USGO2 [-\]: before or after you put potatoes in the sacks?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: they aren't sacks of potatoes if they are empty
killmejk [4k\]: usgo2 is a talking robot?
USGO2 [-\]: who started this scandalous rumour? >_>
Quinn [?\]: No, USGO2 is a human watching the game life and playing it for us
USGO2 [-\]: actually, your host this evening is USGO3, aka Mark Lee, aka the winner of the US Open Masters this past august
Quinn [?\]: ooooo, Thanks Mark Lee!
Warfreak2 [4d\]: usgo2 is usgo3?
USGO2 [-\]: who graciously volunteered to record
Warfreak2 [4d\]: my mind is exploded
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;B[si]C[Quinn [?\]: no, haha, USGO2 is recording another game (I think) but watching this one
USGO2 [-\]: yes
USGO2 [-\]: let's focus on the game!!
pwnnuki [1d\]: lol
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;W[rl]C[Quinn [?\]: huh, why not black at T12?
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;B[re]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: because it's not necessary
pwnnuki [1d\]: I like this
Quinn [?\]: but b at T12 would have allowed b to play at S14 right?
Quinn [?\]: removing the eye shape
Quinn [?\]: though I guess white is unlikely to die anyway
jwc [-\]: s15 better at s14/
jwc [-\]: ?
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;W[rf]C[Quinn [?\]: not without T12, otherwise b-s14 could be twarted by w-s15
Quinn [?\]: I think
jwc [-\]: s14 s15 t13
xedover [?\]: I've added the single-elimination bracket to the results page (http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014). PM me for corrections
Quinn [?\]: alas my 1kyu commentary is limited. Xedover, the link didn't work
xedover [?\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014
Quinn [?\]: thanks
maproomad [-\]: there are some broken bits of <h3> tag left on the page
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;B[mf]
;W[mc]C[wyvern [?\]: how does one read it, xedover?
xedover [?\]: I'd start from the official rules (pdf linked on page)... cause it confuses me personally
Warfreak2 [4d\]: n15?
wyvern [?\]: i'm having trouble making sense of the single elimination portion
Quinn [?\]: I like n15
Quinn [?\]: n15 016 p16?
pwnnuki [1d\]: n15 o16 o18 seems nicer
Warfreak2 [4d\]: nicer how?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w can die directly
jwc [-\]: n15 o16 n16 
Quinn [?\]: I like the sounds of that
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;B[md]C[Quinn [?\]: well shucks, haha
pwnnuki [1d\]: hmm
pwnnuki [1d\]: b still owes a move around q5 group I don't know how hostile he can be here
pwnnuki [1d\]: is he killing this w?
wade [5d\]: b is getting pts in sente :)
Quinn [?\]: pts on the top?
wade [5d\]: yup
killmejk [4k\]: n15 no?
wade [5d\]: probably
Quinn [?\]: After white gets his top group out of the mess it is in, then what? Any guesses?
USGO2 [-\]: PLOT TWIST ALERT
USGO2 [-\]: The colors are backwards
cheerup: b will crash w here
Dalan [-\]: LOL
USGO2 [-\]: Ryan is black
Quinn [?\]: WA!!!!!
Needham [5k\]: ?
KochKoch [1d\]: >:(
Quinn [?\]: Aw man :( 
USGO2 [-\]: Ben won the nigiri, and mark assumed he would choose black, as is usual
KochKoch [1d\]: not cool
Xylol [2k?\]: haahaha
Needham [5k\]: not cool at all.
USGO3 [-\]: sorry 
Xylol [2k?\]: switch sides is sometimes really powerful tesuji.
daniug [2d\]: tesuji by usgo3:)
r0n1n [4k\]: so ryan is black?
USGO2 [-\]: but ben has been choosing white when he wins, confusing us :)
USGO3 [-\]: Ryan Li is Black, Ben Lockhart is White
r0n1n [4k\]: ok thanks
Quinn [?\]: I forgive you USGO 3, thank you for taking the time to record this game
pwnnuki [1d\]: I swear this has happened with every single ben game lol
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;W[me]
;B[le]C[Dalan [-\]: he is very strong at Nigiri
Xylol [2k?\]: You should always pick odd because, 1 is the minimum amount of stones and a player can only grab a finite number of stones...
bert [2d?\]: p14 o14 q16 s17 o16 m16 p16 is a life, miserable though
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;W[nd]
;B[ld]C[aa [3d\]: seems this game will end soon!
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;W[oc]
;B[nb]C[U [?\]: picking 0 stones happened in apro game
aa [3d\]: q16 q18 p14 alive
Quinn [?\]: Xylol, interesting statement, I am trying to work out a proof in my head.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: n16 seems weird now
Warfreak2 [4d\]: oh, i guess the point is to capture n17 directly
wuwei [4k\]: I imagine the sound of 0 stones being placed on the board
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;W[of]C[Quinn [?\]: is zero even or odd?
pwnnuki [1d\]: I would pick up zero stones, why wouldn't that be allowed? Zero is even after all.
wuwei [4k\]: even
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;B[od]
;W[ng]C[jwc [-\]: ko
aa [3d\]: wow
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;B[mh]
;W[oh]
;B[oi]C[wuwei [4k\]: wth
aa [3d\]: b wants to kill
U [?\]: i mean even in this round yuan zhou won nigiri and chose white too
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;W[ni]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: is that allowed
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if you win nigiri, you are black, you don't choose
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;B[og]C[U [?\]: depends. but i think choosing makes more sense
pwnnuki [1d\]: I thought winning meant you choose 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: in casual play, maybe it makes more sense
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;W[sf]C[pwnnuki [1d\]: when would it ever not make sense
cheerup: I thought Ben had black earlier
Warfreak2 [4d\]: in tournament play, where black and white are supposed to be about equal but choosing may confer an advantage, it is unfair to randomly award one player that advantage
wuwei [4k\]: anyway, there probably is a statistical tendency towards even or odd in nigiri
cheerup: now Ben has white instead?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes, the colours were the other way round earlier
pwnnuki [1d\]: It can't both be equal and confer an advantage.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: sure it can
Warfreak2 [4d\]: on average, black can be as good as white, but against particular opponents, the choice might matter
xedover [?\]: Ing rules you get to choose... I don't recall the specifics for AGA rules, but apprently its allowed :)
wuwei [4k\]: whatever
pwnnuki [1d\]: I prefer white.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i prefer black
xedover [?\]: some players perfer white due to the larger komi
Warfreak2 [4d\]: but a tournament system should not entail that both players get their preferred colour, when they prefer different colours
wuwei [4k\]: we should all state our preferences
xgw10 [3k\]: I think warfreak is right
pwnnuki [1d\]: then forget nigiri, have komi bidding
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;B[rk]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: there's a uk tournament with komi bidding
Herod [-\]: after first 3 rounds here, think black had won 9 out of 12
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;W[pd]
;B[rc]C[daniug [2d\]: b just great
Quinn [?\]: p18 or T12
pwnnuki [1d\]: poor ben has a very unfortunate start
Quinn [?\]: indeed
aa [3d\]: b doing fine
sharma [6d\]: well,this wont be a long game
iceweasel [-\]: p18 waste of ko threat
pwnnuki [1d\]: p18 is one of those kinds of conflicts. Force before living? Or save your ko threats? 
Rukis [1k\]: Herod, I believe both Ryan and Eric have won 9 out 12
wuwei [4k\]: B won 12 out of 20
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;W[sj]C[xgw10 [3k\]: they both won all of their games so far
Quinn [?\]: Ryan and Eric are both rated one stone stronger than Ben
Herod [-\]: Ryan and Eric have won 10 out of 10
Quinn [?\]: Ryan: 8.78 dan, Eric: 8.53 dan and Ben:7.54 dan (AGA rating)
]
;B[rm]C[U [?\]: ben has been white all 6 games so far
killmejk [4k\]: i like a good fight
Uberdude [3d\]: r7 ?
Uberdude [3d\]: ah and then q9 and b fixes ko by making nice wall?
aa [3d\]: s7 makes no sense
wuwei [4k\]: r7 q8 t8
USGO2 [-\]: quinn: to be specific, the ratings aren't in units of "dan"
rinkaio [1k\]: agree with aa
Rukis [1k\]: s7 is a trade aa
Quinn [?\]: haha, thanks USGO2, I actually realized that right after I posted it, silly me
Uberdude [3d\]: well, the ratings are in units of dan and kyu below 7 dan aren't they?
wuwei [4k\]: they are units of awesomeness
wade [5d\]: quinn:ben studies in korea no? i guess he got stronger than his aga rank improvement
USGO2 [-\]: ratings vs. ranks uberdude
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;W[sh]C[killmejk [4k\]: finally
Quinn [?\]: He did study in Korea yes. But he played in the NYC Go Congress since then, so his rank might reflect his strength since his time in Korea
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;B[oh]C[U [?\]: ben went 5-4 in the masters division, ryan went 6-3
wade [5d\]: i c
jwc [-\]: r7?
USGO3 [-\]: Ben studed in korea
killmejk [4k\]: m14
U [?\]: they actually played each other in round 1, which ryan won
rinkaio [1k\]: why did he let it alive ?
Rukis [1k\]: studed so stronk
Quinn [?\]: U: cool fact
anewtry [1d\]: its too good for b
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;W[nl]C[rinkaio [1k\]: less than 200 moves in this game
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;B[mn]C[pwnnuki [1d\]: I really wanted ben to win but now I am despondent. I know he has much more fighting spirit than I, so I wish him luck. Maybe the game will still be going when I get home from "work" ;)
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;W[qm]C[anewtry [1d\]: you  can check it in the website if you miss
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;B[pk]
;W[qk]
;B[pl]C[rinkaio [1k\]: nice move
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;W[sk]
;B[oj]C[killmejk [4k\]: :o
Dalan [-\]: I feel like this thickness cost is a fortune
Dalan [-\]: a wall literally across the entire board
killmejk [4k\]: so thick
Rukis [1k\]: Dalan not really
rinkaio [1k\]: black is playing fancy
Rukis [1k\]: whites top group only has 3 points
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;W[ll]C[Rukis [1k\]: and white has at most 5-8 more points on the right than the top
wade [5d\]: b got better coz w got only 22 pts total (both groups)
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;B[kn]C[aa [3d\]: w might as well resign
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;W[jl]C[Rukis [1k\]: why?
served [3d\]: black's thickness is too much
killmejk [4k\]: n14
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;B[kk]C[Rukis [1k\]: It's not though the whole left board is open
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;W[kl]C[Quinn [?\]: black has a possible massive topside, and can live easily on the bottom all while chasing the poor white middle group
wuwei [4k\]: problem is, black is the one to be beaten
anewtry [1d\]: every is to be beaten
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;B[do]C[Rukis [1k\]: you guys have poor fighting sirits if you are suggesting white to resign
wuwei [4k\]: in time, not now
Rukis [1k\]: thats not the point.
anewtry [1d\]: wouldnt be better ro give o8 away? its just making the weak group bigger and bigger
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;W[fp]
;B[hq]C[Uberdude [3d\]: o8 cuts p3 group
Uberdude [3d\]: so some counterattacking chances
Warfreak2 [4d\]: m14 cut is also attractive
Rukis [1k\]: ^
Warfreak2 [4d\]: because of n18 sente
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;W[ip]C[anewtry [1d\]: p3 is strong enough but m14 is good 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: p3 not unannoyable
Rukis [1k\]: "p3 is strong"
Rukis [1k\]: with 2 6 line stones
Warfreak2 [4d\]: there is an amusing weakness starting with o9 p8 n8 actually
wuwei [4k\]: k3?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: maybe w can't back up any threat based on this cut without defending it
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;B[in]
;W[hp]
;B[hl]C[xgw10 [3k\]: wow
daniug [2d\]: bad exchange for b on the lower side...he could just have jumped like this in the center
anewtry [1d\]: i think its better
psygo [3k\]: yeah, but black has control of the game now, doesnt he?
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;W[ij]C[daniug [2d\]: he has to chase w very efficiently cause he already has given him some cash on the lower side
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;B[gj]C[anewtry [1d\]: b builds territory all over the board
USGO3 [-\]: remaining time. B:55Minutes and W: 40Minutes 
spacetime [4d\]: H7?
anewtry [1d\]: and h3 is not dead
daniug [2d\]: it just sleeps:D
psygo [3k\]: capitalizing on this attack doesnt seem very hard
spacetime [4d\]: if W can't cut he's in a terrible situation
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;W[kh]C[killmejk [4k\]: n14 time
darkronin [3k\]: Can't cut from a weak group?
killmejk [4k\]: lets go
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;B[lf]
;W[hh]C[spacetime [4d\]: quite rgrettable that W lost the m14 aji. but if he can H7 now, maybe W is not so terrible...
aa [3d\]: j4 nice move!
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;B[fh]C[daniug [2d\]: keep going keimas:D
wade [5d\]: h7 is overplay... b is 95% alive
spacetime [4d\]: in that case W is screwed
wade [5d\]: he was the minute p9 was cut
tchitchi [2d\]: ryan <3
aa [3d\]: m14 necessary to prevent m13 ?
psygo [3k\]: bad game for ben
aa [3d\]: two problems for w: black's moyos at both left side and top are huge
wade [5d\]: w's problem: got no pts :P
rinkaio [1k\]: it is not unwinable for w but not far
aa [3d\]: some points at bottom, bottom left corner
aa [3d\]: right*
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;W[hm]C[rinkaio [1k\]: oooo
justhinkin [2k\]: :)
r0n1n [4k\]: ooooo
aa [3d\]: cutting alive groups
rinkaio [1k\]: good or desperate move ?
nflow [5d\]: w has a lot of cash with j4 stones
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;B[im]
;W[il]C[nflow [5d\]: b must feel some pressure on getting real territory
psygo [3k\]: fierce fighting incoming
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;B[gl]
;W[hn]
;B[go]C[aa [3d\]: b l3 
nflow [5d\]: g5 is a painful stab
psygo [3k\]: now the game will get twice as interesting
aa [3d\]: g5 nice forcing move!
daniug [2d\]: w has to H5
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;W[ho]C[nflow [5d\]: I think b will play m4 
aa [3d\]: not l3 ?
Javaness [2d\]: how can white fail to win with that shape?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: g4 wasn't an awful option for w
Javaness [2d\]: The hockey stick tesuji
nflow [5d\]: maybe l3, just looks thin to me
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w still can j5 and make a cut, giving up two stones
rinkaio [1k\]: yes for m4
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;B[kp]C[nflow [5d\]: I suck
aa [3d\]: 8d make mistakes too:)
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;W[jo]
;B[jn]C[aa [3d\]: why not give up 2 stones
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;W[lo]C[basil [3d\]: cutting stones
sleazypnut [2d\]: m5 is annoying
anewtry [1d\]: i will be very sad if b die here
nflow [5d\]: right now both b and w are really thin, but w has sente.
Quinn [?\]: I will be happy as I'm rooting for Ben, however, it just seems far too unlikely that Ryan could die
]
;B[ko]
;W[ln]C[Rukis [1k\]: he wont for long :D
martin97 [-\]: this doesnt look dead
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;B[lp]
;W[mo]C[daniug [2d\]: its not dead but b got problems
Warfreak2 [4d\]: ben power
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;B[mm]C[anewtry [1d\]: i also support  who has the low score but ryan made an excellent start in this game
]
;W[lm]C[aa [3d\]: cutting stones not important if w already strong
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;B[iq]C[martin97 [-\]: the actual thing is that ben is not asian ^^
Warfreak2 [4d\]: the actual thing is that ben is super cool
aa [3d\]: he studied with asians
Warfreak2 [4d\]: the rest of us aren't racist
]
;W[gp]C[U [?\]: bens score isnt low either, 4-1 so far
nflow [5d\]: b's shape still looks broken
anewtry [1d\]: lower than ryan
Rukis [1k\]: make that 5-1
Rukis [1k\]: lol
martin97 [-\]: this is not about racism this is about having other ppl being pro...
nflow [5d\]: O4 probably
agony [5k\]: w q4 looks damaging
Javaness [2d\]: lets put racism into the fridge for now
ricedragon [1d\]: "other ppl"
wuwei [4k\]: martin97, don't walk this path
rinkaio [1k\]: I do not understand the link beteween the situation and the fact that ben is not asian...
Warfreak2 [4d\]: the situation is we support ben because ben is cool
Javaness [2d\]: ryan li is my hero, he will win
Uberdude [3d\]: did u meet him at kpmc?
Rukis [1k\]: o3 or o4
martin97 [-\]: u are completly misunderstanding me
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i haven't met ryan, he's probably cool too, but he has not had the benefit of meeting me
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes
agony [5k\]: when in a hole, stop digging
anewtry [1d\]: us isnt a multinational country? so who cares their nations
daniug [2d\]: o4?
Rukis [1k\]: enough about that, focus on the game
Quinn [?\]: o4 seems interesting
nflow [5d\]: the problem with O4 is K3 
Rukis [1k\]: nflow
Uberdude [3d\]: i'm waiting for a navajo 9d
Rukis [1k\]: im talking about white
Warfreak2 [4d\]: finnish 9d already happened
Rukis [1k\]: and k3 isnt a problem
nflow [5d\]: right Rukis
rinkaio [1k\]: the actual problem is that white will live
Rukis [1k\]: k3 k2 
nflow [5d\]: but right now is b's turn
Rukis [1k\]: or simply give up the stones
aa [3d\]: what was ben's result at kpmc
Warfreak2 [4d\]: pretty good, as i recall
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;B[or]C[Javaness [2d\]: ben won quite a few games
Uberdude [3d\]: yeah only lost to korea
Rukis [1k\]: o4!
Uberdude [3d\]: which is quite acceptable
Javaness [2d\]: I never lost to Korea at the KPMC
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i lost to korea at wagc
nflow [5d\]: what is KPMC?
Uberdude [3d\]: i never lost at the KPMC
Javaness [2d\]: I wasn't good enough to play them
Rukis [1k\]: korean price money casino?
]
;W[jq]
;B[jr]
;W[jp]C[rinkaio [1k\]: lol Rukis
]
;B[kr]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: i rather embarrassed myself in that game, i think the korean player now thinks britain is awful at go
Javaness [2d\]: it is
aa [3d\]: yep
]
;W[mp]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: i mean even more awful than it is
aa [3d\]: ah, ben took 5th place
aa [3d\]: not bad
anewtry [1d\]: russian is best in europe riht?
]
;B[mr]C[martin97 [-\]: kinda
daniug [2d\]: b can discard q6 after all if sente
nflow [5d\]: well, there are only 3 countries strong at go
]
;W[lq]
;B[kq]
;W[mq]C[bert [2d?\]: i lost to korea at wagc too, but actually had quite a good game, the guy overplayed
]
;B[lr]C[Prodigious [-\]: taiwan is pretty strong too
nflow [5d\]: makes 4
anewtry [1d\]: koreans always overplay
martin97 [-\]: russian has the widest top, romania also strong
U [?\]: north korea finished near the top the times they went
Warfreak2 [4d\]: next EGC will be exciting, i hope antti and surma will play
agony [5k\]: where will next EGC be held?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: liberec, czechia
Rukis [1k\]: funny thing is the 6th line influence black had is now first like territory
Rukis [1k\]:   n
rinkaio [1k\]: n6
daniug [2d\]: b lost some of his advantage
Uberdude [3d\]: that p9 squzze is nice
wuwei [4k\]: yes
Uberdude [3d\]: ends in an oshitubushi
nflow [5d\]: g2 looks big for w
psygo [3k\]: yeah, but white lost territory too
Warfreak2 [4d\]: not oshitsubushi surely
spacetime [4d\]: W needs to stabilize center group in sente somehow
anewtry [1d\]: the top and the right side is enough for b
rinkaio [1k\]: w has no points
daniug [2d\]: ....if that might be easy:)
]
;W[eg]C[nflow [5d\]: wow
martin97 [-\]: wow
aa [3d\]: wow
spacetime [4d\]: Wow
Warfreak2 [4d\]: oshitsubushi is when the vital point is an illegal suicide move, isn't it?
psygo [3k\]: :O
daniug [2d\]: whoaa:)
justhinkin [2k\]: wow
iwin [1k\]: wow
Rukis [1k\]: c-c-combo breaker
aa [3d\]: red alert, red alert
nflow [5d\]: I'm the first
]
;B[fg]
;W[ee]C[tchitchi [2d\]: "it's a trap"
spacetime [4d\]: sick
isbhal [3d\]: wowowowowo
]
;B[ec]C[indianayk [5d?\]:  e13 was totally unexpected!
daniug [2d\]: a trap might be but b cashes in
nflow [5d\]: not sure if E13 is a good move
psygo [3k\]: obvious move indeed
]
;W[ff]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's a TARP
Warfreak2 [4d\]: troubled asset relief program
isbhal [3d\]: why w no resign ?
anewtry [1d\]: i think its the most interesting game till now
Wagaboo [2k\]: why because of possibilities on the left side
isbhal [3d\]: at this level
isbhal [3d\]: w can't do anything
isbhal [3d\]: 'à'àà'à'à'à'
]
;B[di]C[wuwei [4k\]: we already covered this topic
nflow [5d\]: b will win as long as he secures f12 and d5 stones
]
;W[cg]C[aa [3d\]: who counted
nflow [5d\]: I did
spacetime [4d\]: n18 is nice aji fro W
]
;B[ch]C[anewtry [1d\]: w center isnt even alive yet
spacetime [4d\]: c15?
nflow [5d\]: c15 looks nice
droplet [4d\]: if Ben pull off this game, I'll root for him for the rest of my life
Quinn [?\]: haha, for realz
wuwei [4k\]: lol
]
;W[dm]C[wuwei [4k\]: it's a great game, no matter what
Quinn [?\]: what about f17?
agony [5k\]: he sure is making it interesting!
anewtry [1d\]: here you go again
Warfreak2 [4d\]: ben has the power
Quinn [?\]: d7 is an awesome move
USGO3 [-\]: remaining time: B:39Minutes W:24Minutes
psygo [3k\]: what is not awesome here?
Quinn [?\]: haha, truth
nflow [5d\]: my guess is, b will c7 and then d8 cut
nflow [5d\]: maybe c3 first though
sharma [6d\]: this game is still going?wow
Leonidas [2k\]: w o6
daniug [2d\]: wouldn t be too much of a corner for w?
nflow [5d\]: d5 is extremely weak though, daniug
nflow [5d\]: something's got to give
psygo [3k\]: ben is not polite enough to resign
aa [3d\]: why resign now
aa [3d\]: fun is only starting
psygo [3k\]: just kidding
Rukis [1k\]: aa...
]
;B[hi]C[Rukis [1k\]: you sad that like 60-70 moves ago..
Quinn [?\]: oh snap! H11
sharma [6d\]: it was correct after upper right corner
aa [3d\]: I felt it was my duty as a kibitzer to ask for an early resignation
]
;W[ih]
;B[gf]C[Quinn [?\]: I would have resigned eariler, alas that is why I'm not 7dan
Rukis [1k\]: I guess sharma would have too
aa [3d\]: 7dan can come up with moves like e13 
Quinn [?\]: well he is "only" 6dan
sharma [6d\]: Probably yeah
nflow [5d\]: d7 got tenuki'ed
Warfreak2 [4d\]: super ben
sharma [6d\]: The main problem that this black doesnt look like who would screw up after an early lead
aa [3d\]: w can try c15 
bert [2d?\]: some of this games look so amateurish it is embarassing
bert [2d?\]: these*
Rukis [1k\]: if he kills something sharma he didnt screw up
aa [3d\]: they are amateurs
sharma [6d\]: But kill what?
Quinn [?\]: aa, haha true, but one of them will become pro
killmejk [4k\]: lurking here is a pro sandbagger
Quinn [?\]: I agree with sharma, I think b should be doing better after that beginning, it is impresssive that Ben has managed to narrow the lead this much
]
;W[ge]
;B[hf]C[aa [3d\]: we don't know that one of them will become pro
aa [3d\]: probably eric liu will
bert [2d?\]: w didnt narrow anything here, imo
martin97 [-\]: but w just took a huge risk
Quinn [?\]: i mean one of the people competing in the tourni
aa [3d\]: lui
]
;W[fc]
;B[fb]C[sharma [6d\]: Thats what I'm saying,it doesnt look like that black started to play slack or soft after the early lead
aa [3d\]: e18 
martin97 [-\]: i hope for ryan actually
Warfreak2 [4d\]: goooo ben!
martin97 [-\]: in general
aa [3d\]: why ryan
nflow [5d\]: Ryan is Canadian right?
killmejk [4k\]: ew
]
;W[gc]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: eh
Quinn [?\]: hey hey, I hope only for the best Go player, whoever it is
USGO3 [-\]: yes. Ryan is Canadian
Warfreak2 [4d\]: (ben)
nflow [5d\]: thanks USGO3
]
;B[ed]
;W[fd]C[aa [3d\]: so north america pro?
daniug [2d\]: e16 first
Grunman [10k\]: so every Li can be canadian too?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: ?
]
;B[lj]C[killmejk [4k\]: abort mission
Quinn [?\]: I was thinking e16 first too
killmejk [4k\]: i repeat abort
Leonidas [2k\]: o6 for sente eye
xgw10 [3k\]:  is Ryan crazywind?
aa [3d\]: l10 
]
;W[nn]C[aa [3d\]: vaguely looks like a tesuji
ZetaBeam [3d\]: yes iirc
nflow [5d\]: I really can't see w benefitting from this attack
Quinn [?\]: I expected P4
Grunman [10k\]: almoust half of non-asian Go players have asian roots and asian Go school behind, seems to me. isn
Grunman [10k\]: isn't it?
]
;B[nk]C[aa [3d\]: odd
Grunman [10k\]: these French Koreans etc.
aa [3d\]: seems b wants to prevent q4 cut
]
;W[ii]C[Leonidas [2k\]: how is that odd?
psygo [3k\]: gosh, just focus on the game
psygo [3k\]: shut up about it
psygo [3k\]: no one wants to hear it right now
hobajons [-\]: so dead
Leonidas [2k\]: this will get ugly
aa [3d\]: still think l10 is a tesuji
hobajons [-\]: l10
]
;B[gb]C[spacetime [4d\]: is w alive then?
]
;W[ce]
;B[bd]C[nflow [5d\]: w is alive for the time being
nflow [5d\]: b has too many weaknesses
aa [3d\]: this w group also not 100% alive
rinkaio [1k\]: 100 moves before I would never imagine the game like that
nflow [5d\]: b did not try to play simple at all
xgw10 [3k\]: w m8 alive? 
aa [3d\]: it's his style
aa [3d\]: kgs style, really
pwnnuki [1d\]: I left in such a sorry state for this w but the game has been very exciting
nflow [5d\]: maybe w should just cut b at g13 right now
Rukis [1k\]: thats gote and white would probably doe
]
;W[df]C[Rukis [1k\]: die*
DonaldDuck [1k\]: c3
nflow [5d\]: it's gote? really?
Brian [1d\]: how many chosen to be pro?
Rukis [1k\]: wheres the sente?
MaLa [5d?\]: 1
Rukis [1k\]: 1
killmejk [4k\]: make the group strong enough to g13?
Rukis [1k\]: in a single elim tourny after the RR brian
psygo [3k\]: how many games till the elimination rounds?
Rukis [1k\]: 2
martin97 [-\]: so actually this rr isnt needed
Rukis [1k\]: not counting curre nt
Rukis [1k\]: it is
U [?\]: it determines seeding
Rukis [1k\]: in a way
nflow [5d\]: after cut, j15 kills two stones, Rukis
Rukis [1k\]: no it doesnt
martin97 [-\]: yes but you can lose all now and win all later and be pro
nflow [5d\]: well, it does according to my calculation
DonaldDuck [1k\]: have to C3 now or losing
DrStraw [-\]: result in this round carry forward as part of best of three matches
Quinn [?\]: g13 cut looks interesting
CageyS [?\]: Is k8 alive?? 
Rukis [1k\]: for now
martin97 [-\]: true dr
]
;B[cq]
;W[cr]
;B[cp]C[rinkaio [1k\]: wow
Quinn [?\]: they sure played that out fast
rinkaio [1k\]: interesting 
CageyS [?\]: Looks so hard for w
Rukis [1k\]: Dr it doesnt
rinkaio [1k\]: it is still winable for w, it will be hard but makable
]
;W[en]
;B[br]
;W[dr]C[rinkaio [1k\]: b1
Quinn [?\]: if white can get teh G13 cut now, black could be in big trouble on the left
U [?\]: rukis, the championship after the round robin is listed as 1 v 8, 4 v 5, 3 v 6, and 2 v 7. how do you thibnk those aredetermined
bbio [5k\]: ryan li too strong
]
;B[cm]C[rinkaio [1k\]: bbio: ryan is strong but ben is not a clown
]
;W[cl]
;B[dl]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: ben has the strength power
spacetime [4d\]: what?!
spacetime [4d\]: d8?
psygo [3k\]: i dont think that works
nflow [5d\]: I called this, a few 10s of moves ago
daniug [2d\]: it works
CageyS [?\]: So is zchen already a pro? 
DrStraw [-\]: clown need to be strong to pull offf their tricks
DonaldDuck [1k\]: Ben is very impressive so far
killmejk [4k\]: you mean funny straw
Rukis [1k\]: U i was talking about the results being carried forward.. they are seeded thats what I've been saying the whole time.
killmejk [4k\]: clowns dont need to be strong
]
;W[cn]
;B[bm]
;W[ck]C[killmejk [4k\]: can we get a time update pls
DonaldDuck [1k\]: D6
]
;B[bn]C[cucurigu [-\]: b6
ZetaBeam [3d\]: if d6 then after black has to b6 and no white can net 
DonaldDuck [1k\]: b6 better
Quinn [?\]: agreed, time update please USGO3
ZetaBeam [3d\]: here the net not working
USGO3 [-\]: remaining time: B24Minutes and W:10Minutes
]
;W[el]C[rinkaio [1k\]: thx 
killmejk [4k\]: thanks
aa [3d\]: ko
cucurigu [-\]: f9 works
]
;B[dk]
;W[dj]
;B[ek]
;W[ej]
;B[fk]
;W[cj]C[DonaldDuck [1k\]: have to D9
killmejk [4k\]: wat
Brian [1d\]: hmm
]
;B[gh]C[spacetime [4d\]: W needs B12 and g2 at the same time
DonaldDuck [1k\]: ben lockhart is good
Warfreak2 [4d\]: he is
Warfreak2 [4d\]: he's like tifa lockhart, but ben
bbio [5k\]: not good enough
Rukis [1k\]: g2 needed no?
Dalan [-\]: lol @Warfreak2
acuflow [4d\]: ignore B12
CageyS [?\]: W needs 3 moves 
r0n1n [4k\]: is m8 supposed alive?
]
;W[bh]C[bbio [5k\]: w has too many weak groups
indianayk [5d?\]: b12, g2 as well as k14
]
;B[jk]C[USGO3 [-\]: remaing time: B:22Minutes and W:5Minutes
]
;W[ik]
;B[if]C[r0n1n [4k\]: that's not gonna help w for sure
Brian [1d\]: even without weak groups, it seems white has less points
]
;W[jg]
;B[fr]
;W[gr]C[iwin [1k\]: :(
]
;B[gq]
;W[fq]
;B[hr]C[bbio [5k\]: res sequence
]
;W[er]
;B[gs]
;W[dp]
;B[eo]
;W[fo]C[easyloss [2d?\]: uh oh
]
;B[dn]C[Quinn [?\]: here it comes
]
;W[ep]
;B[em]C[rija [-\]: live in sente lol
nflow [5d\]: look again rija
Rukis [1k\]: ?
Brian [1d\]: it's not sente
rija [-\]: oh no yeah gote
]
;W[bs]
;B[ol]C[daniug [2d\]: still goo
daniug [2d\]: d
rinkaio [1k\]: h17 big
]
;W[ml]C[Brian [1d\]: white has like 35~40 points.  black has like 45~50
]
;B[pp]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: including komi?
Brian [1d\]: by my counting, at least
nflow [5d\]: p8 q4 so solid
nflow [5d\]: b just wants this to end now
anewtry [1d\]: h17 huge
Rukis [1k\]: its becuase b has the lead
daniug [2d\]: why q4?
rija [-\]: k11 not kill?
spacetime [4d\]: b has too much
Rukis [1k\]: no
rinkaio [1k\]: byo yomi soon for w
spacetime [4d\]: j17 = ame over
diln: q4 to block w from connecting
r0n1n [4k\]: i see nearly 60 points for b
nflow [5d\]: it would make sense if w resigns now
USGO2 [-\]: nothing left to attack.
Quinn [?\]: yeah, I am guessing white is counting now and is about to resign
Brian [1d\]: too bad.  i was rooting for lockhart.  i spoke with him at us go congress, and he had good go attitude, i felt
r0n1n [4k\]: i'd be curious to know what's w's next move
rinkaio [1k\]: q4 to play t6
]
;W[li]C[wyvern [?\]: can white's center group live?
sinprejic [1d?\]: q4 seems slow
anewtry [1d\]: şts not over for ben its just first phase
nflow [5d\]: q4 is slow. b is just being solid
easyloss [2d?\]: oh really?
]
;B[qq]C[rinkaio [1k\]: no it is to play t6
USGO3 [-\]: White start countdown
]
;W[rq]
;B[rr]C[easyloss [2d?\]: no elimination?
anewtry [1d\]: no
]
;W[qr]
;B[pq]C[bert [2d?\]: q4 was meant to be sente, not slow
]
;W[sp]C[nflow [5d\]: considering b could've just killed w, I would say it's slow
USGO3 [-\]: B:20Minutes
sinprejic [1d?\]: top bigger than these two stones
]
;B[so]C[r0n1n [4k\]: yes
]
;W[rn]C[r0n1n [4k\]: i was thinking about this move
]
;B[ar]C[r0n1n [4k\]: so now he can tenuki
Brian [1d\]: it's neat
]
;W[fn]C[rinkaio [1k\]: h17
]
;B[hc]C[rinkaio [1k\]: yeees
r0n1n [4k\]: isn't h17 -j17 big?
anewtry [1d\]: finallu
wuwei [4k\]: you see them grabbing every inch... amazing
spacetime [4d\]: game
r0n1n [4k\]: oh nvm
pwnnuki [1d\]: poor ben :/
DrStraw [-\]: W 5 groups, B 1 group - says it all
rinkaio [1k\]: b2 was a bad move from w
Quinn [?\]: b2 wasn't bad, it was sente
Rukis [1k\]: how rin?
humblelife [-\]: because w shouldn't play b stones?
indianayk [5d?\]: w saved all, but does not have many points 
USGO3 [-\]: white has resigned
rinkaio [1k\]: it was to slow if u compare with J17
Brian [1d\]: gg
pwnnuki [1d\]: :(
Rukis [1k\]: n10 
xedover [?\]: thanks usgo3
Quinn [?\]: gg gentlemen
Rukis [1k\]: yeah gg
rinkaio [1k\]: thanks for the recording !!!
psygo [3k\]: aw
killmejk [4k\]: ;( ahhahahaahha
killmejk [4k\]: wahhhh
USGO3 [-\]: Thanks for watching everyone!
bbio [5k\]: Thank you USGO
r0n1n [4k\]: thanks usgo3 for showing us this whooooshy game
psygo [3k\]: nice game
indianayk [5d?\]: thanks, USGO3 
q11 [3d\]: nice thick game from ryan
bbio [5k\]: ryan impressive
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