(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[3rd AGA Pro Qualification Tournament Round 5]PW[Ryan Li]PB[Ricky Zhao]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2015-01-06]EV[3rd AGA Pro Qualification Tournament Round 5]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Andrew Okun]RE[W+4.50]
;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[cp]
;W[qd]
;B[iq]
;W[qn]
;B[np]
;W[pj]
;B[nc]
;W[pc]
;B[jd]
;W[hc]
;B[ne]
;W[md]
;B[nd]
;W[pg]
;B[jb]
;W[cm]
;B[dj]
;W[dp]
;B[dq]
;W[cq]
;B[co]C[served [3d\]: wow, this game started fast
USGO4 [-\]: Good morning everyone.  Welcome to Table 4, Round 5 of 3rd AGA Pro Qualification Tournnament
USGO4 [-\]: Broadcast to you from the Minot Ballroom of the Nantasket Beach Resort in Hull, Massachusetts.
]
;W[eq]
;B[dr]
;W[bq]
;B[er]C[Hofobbefes [1d\]: w handling of the chinese is quite interesting
]
;W[do]
;B[dn]
;W[fp]
;B[cn]
;W[fr]
;B[gq]
;W[fq]C[Violence [1d\]: mm, I'm not a fan of this result for black, but I dunno where he could've played something difference
Violence [1d\]: different^
]
;B[cf]C[USGO4 [-\]: Cold  and gray outside.
]
;W[fn]
;B[en]
;W[fo]C[kyopta: why can't i rewind moves? the button is grayed out...?
MaLa [5d?\]: because it is a broadcast
MaLa [5d?\]: just view locally
MaLa [5d?\]: and there you can do it
kyopta: sure, i want to rewind locally on my screen lol, not for everyone!
MaLa [5d?\]: as I said... view locally
]
;B[fm]
;W[gm]C[kyopta: don't get it, but whatever, i think i can see what happened
]
;B[fl]C[kyopta: in the game so far
Violence [1d\]: Option->View Offline
Violence [1d\]: or Option->Save to Disk
]
;W[kq]C[served [3d\]: or "Clone Game In..."
]
;B[gr]C[kyopta: b seems behind already?
kyopta: no, top left still too weak
]
;W[cr]C[USGO4 [-\]: Kryopta, "clone game" from the options menu is best.  You can navigate, but the new moves are updated.
USGO4 [-\]: If I understand it correctly.
]
;B[io]
;W[ko]
;B[eo]
;W[ep]
;B[gn]C[kyopta: thx
]
;W[on]C[kyopta: why isn't it the default then?
]
;B[go]C[kyopta: every server has such idiosynracies :)
]
;W[es]C[MaLa [5d?\]: because you missunderstand the idea of the demo function
kyopta: ok
kostuek [?\]: what ist this idea?
USGO4 [-\]: This instance of the game is for all to observe _and_ discuss.  Your cloned version is for you to play with, and conceivably have your own audience for commentary and variations.
kyopta: for for b to juggle everything
kyopta: *hard
MaLa [5d?\]: also demos can have so many branches...
kyopta: maybe treat lower right lightly, and go for monster centre?
]
;B[qo]
;W[rn]
;B[nn]C[kyopta: or not
Violence [1d\]: I like how Ricky is handling this situation
Violence [1d\]: I think white messed up when he allowed Black to cut
kyopta: for sure
]
;W[nm]C[kyopta: L3 so fiesty
]
;B[mn]
;W[nr]C[Violence [1d\]: Can you do this with M2 still existing? I guess the corner is still open.
]
;B[pr]C[USGO4 [-\]: Your broadcaster  is going to warm up his coffee and get one of the cookies provided fresh baked each morning from the Nantasket's kitchens.
]
;W[mp]C[USGO4 [-\]: [chewing\]
Violence [1d\]: N4???? This works???? Man I have no idea what is going on
USGO4 [-\]: Ryan eating a cookie and considering the board as Ricky ponders his  move.
spacetime [4d\]: what do u mean 'works'?
spacetime [4d\]: maybe black just plays P5?
lance [1k\]: n4 invites black to cut
USGO4 [-\]: Ryan is undefeated in the round robin phase of the tournament so far.  Ricky is looking for his first win.
Hofobbefes [1d\]: is calvin already a pro?
USGO4 [-\]: Yes.  Calvin won the previous qualification.
Hofobbefes [1d\]: thx
Hofobbefes [1d\]: was Zhou the runner up last year?
]
;B[oo]C[Herod [-\]: Bill Lin
USGO4 [-\]: The runner-up last year was Bill Lin, of Canada.
]
;W[om]C[Hofobbefes [1d\]: oh, what happened to him, why he is not playing?
spacetime [4d\]: he should be in this, he's super strong
USGO4 [-\]: I believe he had a scheduling conflict.
Hofobbefes [1d\]: sad
kyopta: higher priority than becoming a salaried professional... must have been serious
spacetime [4d\]: (not salaried)
kyopta: no?
spacetime [4d\]: but yea, too bad
Hofobbefes [1d\]: no
kyopta: what does the pro title entail, then?
]
;B[mm]C[miao [6d\]: good question
Hofobbefes [1d\]: free drinks at any AGA congress
kyopta: lol
]
;W[mo]C[USGO2 [-\]: even korean/chinese/japanese pros are not "salaried" -- i think they get games fees
Hofobbefes [1d\]: chinese pros I think got a salary
miao [6d\]: yes and money for teaching
miao [6d\]: quite a lot
]
;B[no]
;W[km]C[miao [6d\]: b is hopeless
Hofobbefes [1d\]: so after becoming a pro one should become chinese
Hofobbefes [1d\]: not sure what is more difficult
martin97 [-\]: you should basically become chinese pro
USGO4 [-\]: The pro title from AGA makes one eligible for a small AGA travel subsidy to study or compete in Asia, as well as to discounts on top level  training in Korea.  The KBA also respects the pro status and makes certain pro  tournaments open to AGA pros.  
]
;B[mk]C[Hofobbefes [1d\]: like the wagc (ah ah !!)
miao [6d\]: lol
miao [6d\]: wagc
miao [6d\]: u sure
Hofobbefes [1d\]: (just joking)
lance [1k\]: What about international tournaments?
]
;W[kk]C[USGO4 [-\]: Ryan has an hour and 12 minutes main time, Ricky has 50 minutes.
kyopta: that c7 stone...
]
;B[nq]C[miao [6d\]: h7 is tepting
r0n1n [4k\]: w looks somehow ahead
kyopta: getting sente for top left is huge
]
;W[mr]
;B[ro]
;W[gl]
;B[gp]
;W[ds]C[Violence [1d\]: maaan this looks so much more painful for black than like 15 moves ago
kyopta: why? nothing major changed
kyopta: looks about the same :)
kyopta: b decided to get heavy in the corner, w out in centre, b still juggling
kyopta: i still think trading the corner for a connection in the centre would have been better
kyopta: but then again i'm not competing in pro qualies :)
Violence [1d\]: I didn't like Q2 either
Violence [1d\]: but I'm also afraid of giving white all that territory
kyopta: if b managed to connect in sente, ditching the corner, attacking top left would have been huge
kyopta: w couldn't afford to give b any outside thickness
kyopta: now it's kinda meh
kyopta: even assuming b juggling at the bottom is a success
Hofobbefes [1d\]: better way to harras top left? just dive with c17?
kyopta: you mean assuming b had connected his bottom, or now?
Hofobbefes [1d\]: maybe even now
Hofobbefes [1d\]: not sure w can kill
Hofobbefes [1d\]: or profit from trying
Hofobbefes [1d\]: by*
kyopta: high dans, what do you think?
]
;B[il]C[miao [6d\]: should b easy to profit
]
;W[di]C[kyopta: Mandy 2p comment would be nice
kyopta: KGS kibitz not very lively, that's for sure :)
kyopta: kinda reminds me IGS
]
;B[ci]
;W[ch]
;B[dh]
;W[ei]
;B[eh]C[miao [6d\]: i like w
miao [6d\]: the only strong player in this round 
miao [6d\]: ah no
miao [6d\]: eric is also good
]
;W[cj]C[ghaele [2d\]: i agree
]
;B[bi]
;W[dk]C[miao [6d\]: c9maybe
miao [6d\]: hm
miao [6d\]: yeah
miao [6d\]: doesnt work
Romeda [1k\]: look likes work @@!
Violence [1d\]: oh my god
Violence [1d\]: poor Ricky
miao [6d\]: f12also worked
]
;B[ej]C[Romeda [1k\]: e9
]
;W[fk]C[miao [6d\]: f9
miao [6d\]: hehe
Violence [1d\]: the hane is better
kyopta: not to repeat myself, but.... that c7 stone...
Violence [1d\]: but same idea
]
;B[fi]
;W[em]C[Violence [1d\]: this is so painful
Violence [1d\]: res incoming?
Romeda [1k\]: d16 h17 weak :?
]
;B[cc]C[miao [6d\]: d17
Violence [1d\]: you can just dodge
Violence [1d\]: E7 is sooo enormous
kyopta: anyone willing to bet on b now?
Violence [1d\]: I think we're too far into the game, the betting period is over for most sites
kyopta: b dropped a ball during his juggling
kyopta: (as was to be expected)
]
;W[jr]C[kyopta: and appears to be still wobbling
]
;B[hm]
;W[hk]
;B[ik]
;W[dc]
;B[cd]
;W[ij]C[kyopta: do you think b will try to invade right, before resigning?
Romeda [1k\]: d11 nice
kyopta: d11 seems rather strange gote
Ephemere [3d\]: I guess he'll have to live gote first...
lance [1k\]: nice use of c7
]
;B[jj]
;W[jk]
;B[jp]C[kyopta: safe to say, the decision to keep bottom right corner was bad
kyopta: unless it's still part of some master plan
Hofobbefes [1d\]: f18 can still do something
Hofobbefes [1d\]: but b need to live in sente I guess ^^
Rukis [1k\]: Ryan has only had black once right?
]
;W[kp]
;B[jn]C[kyopta: yes, his family gave up slaves when he was very young
]
;W[kn]C[Hofobbefes [1d\]: lol and goodbye
kyopta: see you hofo
]
;B[fc]
;W[fd]C[Hofobbefes [1d\]: b share his idea with a kgs 1d, that is his problem
]
;B[gc]C[Bahamut [2k\]: What would Brian Boitano do?
]
;W[gd]
;B[hb]
;W[ic]
;B[ib]
;W[ie]
;B[je]
;W[if]C[Violence [1d\]: This looks promising
]
;B[jf]
;W[gf]
;B[ii]
;W[hj]C[kyopta: all eyes on the right
USGO4 [-\]: Ryan has 47 minutes main time left; Ricky has 13.
]
;B[pi]
;W[qj]
;B[ph]
;W[og]
;B[qg]C[kyopta: tumbleweed rolls through the room...
]
;W[qf]
;B[rh]
;W[rg]
;B[qh]
;W[jm]
;B[im]
;W[rf]
;B[ni]
;W[mg]C[Ephemere [3d\]: r8 ?
]
;B[oj]
;W[ri]C[USGO4 [-\]: Ricky has 5 mins left
]
;B[bm]C[gotedeath [2k?\]: is it ko?
]
;W[cl]
;B[bl]C[Hofobbefes [1d\]: b showed some coolness this game
]
;W[le]
;B[lf]
;W[mf]
;B[me]
;W[jc]
;B[kc]
;W[jg]
;B[nl]
;W[ok]
;B[nk]
;W[ol]
;B[bk]
;W[ob]
;B[nb]
;W[so]
;B[sp]
;W[sn]
;B[rp]
;W[cb]
;B[bb]
;W[de]
;B[db]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[bf]
;B[bd]
;W[eb]
;B[ca]
;W[ec]
;B[kg]
;W[kb]
;B[lb]
;W[kd]
;B[lc]
;W[lg]
;B[jh]
;W[ig]
;B[kf]
;W[kh]
;B[ki]
;W[lh]
;B[ld]
;W[jo]
;B[hp]
;W[ir]
;B[hr]
;W[df]
;B[cg]
;W[gb]
;B[pn]
;W[qm]
;B[or]C[jwc [-\]: b e8 is sente?
spacetime [4d\]: b ahead by 5pts maybe?
]
;W[dm]
;B[ck]
;W[ek]
;B[mq]
;W[lq]
;B[ns]
;W[li]
;B[hi]
;W[lr]
;B[sh]
;W[si]
;B[pm]
;W[pl]
;B[po]
;W[ql]
;B[pe]
;W[mj]
;B[nj]
;W[oh]
;B[oi]
;W[jq]
;B[ip]
;W[in]
;B[hn]
;W[qe]
;B[gj]
;W[gk]
;B[ap]
;W[bp]
;B[bo]
;W[gh]
;B[gi]
;W[ha]
;B[fg]
;W[dg]
;B[bh]
;W[id]
;B[ke]
;W[ll]
;B[ml]
;W[aq]
;B[ao]C[anewtry [1d\]: i counted al so b+5
]
;W[ff]
;B[gg]
;W[hh]C[anewtry [1d\]: maybe even more
]
;B[oc]
;W[pb]
;B[qi]
;W[rj]
;B[eg]
;W[ln]C[anewtry [1d\]: wait i didnt consider the komi i should count again 
]
;B[ef]
;W[ee]
;B[sg]
;W[sf]C[spacetime [4d\]: VERY close
]
;B[pd]
;W[pf]
;B[hg]
;W[ih]
;B[ji]C[anewtry [1d\]: w+1 i guess
]
;W[ea]
;B[hf]
;W[he]
;B[oa]
;W[pa]
;B[na]
;W[lj]
;B[nf]
;W[ms]
;B[os]
;W[da]C[anewtry [1d\]: but its aga rules, how does it diffr on counting from japanese?
]
;B[cb]
;W[ia]
;B[ka]
;W[oe]
;B[od]
;W[of]
;B[jl]
;W[lk]C[Herod [-\]: on last move, passing involves handing a prisoner stone
Adtran [6k\]: in AGA each player rolls a D20 for bonus points
]
;B[is]
;W[js]
;B[hs]
;W[ga]
;B[ja]C[Muttley [2k\]: its also explained on senseis
]
;W[nh]
;B[mi]
;W[jn]
;B[ng]
;W[mh]
;B[kl]
;W[lm]
;B[fj]
;W[fs]
;B[fh]
;W[kj]
;B[hl]
;W[gs]C[spacetime [4d\]: hahaha
]
;B[]
;W[]TW[fa][qa][ra][sa][fb][qb][rb][sb][fc][gc][qc][rc][sc][ed][hd][rd][sd][fe][ge][re][se][sj][pk][qk][rk][sk][dl][el][fl][rl][sl][fm][rm][sm][lo][lp][dq][ar][br][dr][er][kr][as][bs][cs][ks][ls]TB[aa][ba][la][ma][ab][kb][mb][ac][bc][mc][ad][kd][md][ae][le][af][bf][ag][bg][ah][ch][ai][di][ei][aj][bj][cj][ak][al][am][an][bn][ho][op][qp][hq][oq][pq][qq][rq][sq][qr][rr][sr][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[Muttley [2k\]: b 55, w 58.5 I get
USGO4 [-\]:  W won 4.5
xedover [?\]: thanks usgo4
anewtry [1d\]: thanks
spacetime [4d\]: feel bad for ricky
spacetime [4d\]: almost pulled it off
])
