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RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[AGA Pro Qualification Tournament, Round 5]PW[Ben Lockhart]PB[Daniel Gourdeau]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2015-01-06]EV[AGA Pro Qualification Tournament, Round 5]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Garlock]C[USGO2 [-\]: Welcome to the e-journal's continuing coverage of the 3rd AGA Professional Qualification Tournament!
USGO2 [-\]: USGO1 is Chris Garlock, currently busy reviewing last night's game he recorded with Ben Lockhart
USGO2 [-\]: one minute!
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;B[oq]
;W[qd]
;B[cp]
;W[dd]
;B[cf]
;W[fc]
;B[dj]
;W[fq]
;B[ep]
;W[dr]
;B[hq]
;W[fp]
;B[eq]
;W[er]
;B[cq]
;W[gr]
;B[io]
;W[go]C[USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to today's coverage!
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry about the delay; had to set up Board 3
Dalan [1d\]: I have not seen j5 before, anyone familiar with it?
Violence [1d\]: I have never seen it either, but I'm guessing it's only because of P3
Violence [1d\]: some kind of special plan
Dalan [1d\]: I looked it up on daily joseki
Dalan [1d\]: apparantly it is a common move now?
]
;B[hr]C[Violence [1d\]: huh
Dalan [1d\]: but it does not know continuations very well
Violence [1d\]: interesting
indianayk [5d?\]: i believe the normal joseki at f5 instead of j5 would be good to b with p3. 
ghaele [2d\]: same thing for me
ghaele [2d\]: w g5 is a strange form i guess
]
;W[gm]C[indianayk [5d?\]: so is the shape of b. j5 with p3
kyopta: is this the top board?
kyopta: =players with the best score so far?
kyopta: i'm surprised the names don't sound asian!
kyopta: impressive
USGO1 [-\]: here's our latest report: http://www.usgo.org/news/2015/01/aga-pro-qualification-tournament-day-two-li-lui-undefeated-after-four-rounds/
MaLa [5d?\]: it is round robin
USGO1 [-\]: click here for results: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014#results
MaLa [5d?\]: and those are not the topranked players right now
kyopta: ah, my bad
kyopta: lol
kyopta: silly me, of course asian would be on top ^^
USGO1 [-\]: leaders are on boards 2 & 4: Ryan Li and Eric Lui
kyopta: thx
pwnnuki [1d\]: do either of these players have kgs accounts?
USGO1 [-\]: the boards are not numbered here, because it's a round robin; we just use the numbers for easy reference in the EJ
lance [1k\]: I once saw Lockhart play twoeye
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;B[el]C[pwnnuki [1d\]: interesting to have 5-3 in the lower right instead of 4-4
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;W[em]
;B[dm]
;W[dn]
;B[cn]
;W[en]
;B[dl]
;W[ko]
;B[kq]
;W[in]
;B[qp]
;W[pk]C[Violence [1d\]: I'm not sure I like the direction there
Violence [1d\]: because white feels like he's playing a faster opening
aa [3d\]: e7 aji keshi I think
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;B[nd]
;W[ne]C[Hofobbefes [1d\]: o15 is.... what?
KochKoch [1d\]: boss
Dalan [-\]: a joseki option
Dalan [-\]: for some reason I know most 6-4 joseki...
Dalan [-\]: I blame Gan Siyang
Welvang [-\]: Q16 proper answer since b doesnt have the shicho
miao [6d\]: what ladder
Dalan [-\]: p15 p16 q16 p17 p14 q17 n15 
aa [3d\]: q16 from the 1930s
miao [6d\]: q16 is good for b anyway
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;B[pd]
;W[pe]
;B[oe]
;W[of]
;B[od]
;W[qe]
;B[qc]
;W[rc]C[spacetime [4d\]: where do these kids even learn joseki like this?
gogol1er [1d\]: ben heard you
Dalan [-\]: q9 looks pretty nice now
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;B[pb]C[aa [3d\]: been watching go seigen's games
aa [3d\]: r18 q17 s18 good for w
aa [3d\]: q18 obviously wrong
pwnnuki [1d\]: I feel like w is good to atari then connect at o14 
Dalan [-\]: I think jump would have been proper?
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;W[qb]C[martin97 [-\]: q18 iscorrectandr18 gote
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;B[pc]
;W[rb]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: c17 ?
ghaele [2d\]: is b is realy 7d?
Wagaboo [2k\]: why ask this?
ghaele [2d\]: he dont play bad but strange way
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;B[nf]C[ghaele [2d\]: like j5
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;W[me]C[JeansebL [7d?\]: Who are the players? (Mobile user...)
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;B[og]
;W[pf]
;B[lc]C[ghaele [2d\]: and now q18
aa [3d\]: white: ben lockhart 7d
spacetime [4d\]: R6?
aa [3d\]: black: daniel gordeau 7d
JeansebL [7d?\]: Thanks a lot aa
spacetime [4d\]: r6 is MASSIVE, but maybe he needs to respond at the top...
pwnnuki [1d\]: I don't understand w's connect at s18 over connecting at o14 
Dalan [-\]: he studied in korea!
Dalan [-\]: territorrially tight
aa [3d\]: actually b's ataris were probably wrong too
spacetime [4d\]: yea, unless it's a way to get sente to play r6
spacetime [4d\]: but seems overplayish
USGO1 [-\]: "hm" says Lockhart
aa [3d\]: meaning "this is not in the joseki book"
aa [3d\]: can players consult books during the game
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;W[ng]C[indianayk [5d?\]: i think s18 was correct and w will gain more
gogol1er [1d\]: yes, they can read comics while playing
pwnnuki [1d\]: outside isn't bigger indianayk?
spacetime [4d\]: well this way white got the outside anyway right
Sanjang [2k\]: is allowed to check joseki book in tournaments?
]
;B[ic]C[indianayk [5d?\]: even if b plays at r7, low right is not really the cash on hand
spacetime [4d\]: what's bigger now, r6 or b16?
pwnnuki [1d\]: I guess this is a case where various aphorisms I've picked up are clashing, thank you indianayk and spacetime
Sanjang [2k\]: hi pwnnukie
pwnnuki [1d\]: greetings
indianayk [5d?\]: i will go at b16
Sanjang [2k\]: how about c12?
Timk [1d\]: how about just taking ponnuki ?
Sanjang [2k\]: sounds slow
Sanjang [2k\]: but big
Romeda [1k\]: n14 or p5 ?
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;W[qn]C[Sanjang [2k\]: c17 right?
aa [3d\]: yes
aa [3d\]: c17 c16 d17 
Dalan [-\]: brothers think alike
pwnnuki [1d\]: I would take too long to decide between r6 or b16 
Sanjang [2k\]: w can n12 no?
Sanjang [2k\]: instead of ponuki
aa [3d\]: n12 amateur style
Sanjang [2k\]: xD
aa [3d\]: w would just take the stone I think
aa [3d\]: n14 if anything?
Sanjang [2k\]: i think b got no chance
Sanjang [2k\]: thats why im 2k
Sanjang [2k\]: :D
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;B[oo]C[aa [3d\]: b16 
Sanjang [2k\]: how about taking ponuki?
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;W[on]C[indianayk [5d?\]: b n14 is big , but may not the biggest at this point
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;B[nn]
;W[po]C[Sanjang [2k\]: for me, b is not confortable 0o
aa [3d\]: n14 n13 m14 m13 maybe w will sacrifice
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;B[op]C[Sanjang [2k\]: i think he will sacrifice
Sanjang [2k\]: so why not b just take O12?
Sanjang [2k\]: and then q10
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;W[om]C[gogol1er [1d\]: ponuki est une contrepetrie simple
Sanjang [2k\]: o12 n14 q10  sounds very professional style
Sanjang [2k\]: such as tygem old smoking chinese
aa [3d\]: forcing w to take n14 seems bad
aa [3d\]: w's side is pretty much territory already
Sanjang [2k\]: i doubt it
Ephemere [3d\]: table 1 and 4 have a lot of similarities
indianayk [5d?\]: b14,m15,m14,l15,l14,k15,l15j15 o12 captures o13 stone by ladder
indianayk [5d?\]: b n14 instea of b14
aa [3d\]: b14 interesting for w
aa [3d\]: b14 c15 c16 b15 b16 
steve [5k\]: what's b thinking here?  need to counter that right side?
behta [1k\]: pinoki ha bravo ...
steve [5k\]: what are some ideas?
steve [5k\]: develop left, reduce?
aa [3d\]: we suggested b c17 
spacetime [4d\]: the top left crner is very big for both sides
aa [3d\]: c17 c16 d17 to attack w's corner
indianayk [5d?\]: yes
behta [1k\]: B16
spacetime [4d\]: but black may worry about the bottom, like if W plays N5, black connects, and white invades at N3
aa [3d\]: yes nice followup
aa [3d\]: n5 
Sanjang [2k\]: very interesting game
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;B[hn]
;W[ho]C[steve [5k\]: I was thinking other direction, k6
steve [5k\]: there
Sanjang [2k\]: b cant remove eyes from w
Sanjang [2k\]: :(
]
;B[jo]C[aa [3d\]: surprising move
aa [3d\]: nice tesuji I think
Sanjang [2k\]: w tenuki imo
aa [3d\]: k6 l6 ?
spacetime [4d\]: nice way to fix the invasion threat
Sanjang [2k\]: w should take n14
pwnnuki [1d\]: c17 is really looming large but I don't think w should tenuki this
Sanjang [2k\]: xD
]
;W[im]C[aa [3d\]: n14 not urgent
aa [3d\]: can b tenuki now?
Sanjang [2k\]: what now
Sanjang [2k\]: c17?
aa [3d\]: if b answers l6 , w b16 is too good
Warfreak2 [4d\]: super ben
Warfreak2 [4d\]: how many rounds are there?
xedover [?\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014
Warfreak2 [4d\]: round robin, then
xedover [?\]: the first half
xedover [?\]: to seed the single-elemination
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;B[bd]
;W[cc]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: how many players qualify for the knockout?
aa [3d\]: b17 ?
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;B[kn]C[served [3d\]: all of them I think
aa [3d\]: b16 a bit soft
aa [3d\]: c12 still possible for w
spacetime [4d\]: all, but the knockout is best of three where the players' game in the round robin stage is counted as the first game
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;W[ln]C[aa [3d\]: tho in this game I guess w d13 better
spacetime [4d\]: so lsing games in the round robin will make it very difficult to advance later on
Warfreak2 [4d\]: oic
steve [5k\]: m7 possible here?
pwnnuki [1d\]: I think w can bump n6 if b m7 but I am not sure if b is trying to seal territory or poke his group out into the center
Warfreak2 [4d\]: hold on
RedKing [1k\]: no
Warfreak2 [4d\]: so there is a knockout after this, and the results here both determine the seeding for the knockout and also count as the first game in each knockout match?
spacetime [4d\]: exactly
pwnnuki [1d\]: interesting format
Warfreak2 [4d\]: in the knockout, though, players won't play everyone, so some losses may not get counted against them
tonyho [1d\]: b seems cannot rush out if m7
spacetime [4d\]: so the tournament is essentially Bo3 knockout, but where some of the games are 'pre-played' in the round robin, and then there are extra round robin games as well which contribute to seeding
Warfreak2 [4d\]: is it not possible that a player might deliberately lose a game in this stage, so that their opponents in the knockout will be those who they have beaten, rather than those who they have lost to?
absurdmike [2k\]: long thinker
spacetime [4d\]: that does seem possible warfreak
Warfreak2 [4d\]: there is a big advantage to playing against people you've beaten in the knockout
Warfreak2 [4d\]: and it's ok to lose a game if you won't have to play that same opponent in the knockout
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;B[km]C[USGO2 [-\]: warfreak: probably not
USGO2 [-\]: losing games changes your seeding, which means you will more likely play people who beat you ;)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: is that always the case?
USGO2 [-\]: no; but you'd also have to know the tiebreaks in advance
USGO2 [-\]: with roundrobin, there may be many cycles
Warfreak2 [4d\]: by the last round of a round robin, it's usually possible to narrow down to a few possible outcomes
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;W[mn]
;B[lo]
;W[mo]
;B[lp]
;W[ll]C[swedish1k [6d\]: just dont lose any game simple
swedish1k [6d\]: :)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: something similar happened in olympic badminton, they played misere badminton to compete for a better place in the knockout
pwnnuki [1d\]: I don't feel b gained anything in this sequence from h6 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: and that was just normal knockout, in this system there are even clearer differences between different knockout pairings
swedish1k [6d\]: it happens in sports all the time
xedover [?\]: the knockout bracket/pairings is listed in the official rules pdf (link on results page)
xedover [?\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014
xedover [?\]: I'll add an html table to the page later
SirFlunky [2k\]: so.. who won this?
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;B[bc]C[SirFlunky [2k\]: looks great for w in my view
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it happens in sports only when the tournament system creates such a situation
Sanjang [2k\]: d14 and tenuki?
indianayk [5d?\]: n14?
SirFlunky [2k\]: what does w respond to n14?
Sanjang [2k\]: n13 ofc
SirFlunky [2k\]: isnt that too big then?
SirFlunky [2k\]: for b
indianayk [5d?\]: n14 is huge
Sanjang [2k\]: go W!
SirFlunky [2k\]: i kinda like the shapes in this game
SirFlunky [2k\]: looks so solid
aa [3d\]: m6 was greedy and bad
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;W[ke]C[USGO1 [-\]: btw, the games will be played straight thru without any lunch break
Warfreak2 [4d\]: :-o
TurtleDove [2k?\]: brutal :D
USGO1 [-\]: round 6 will be at 4p today (isntead of 4:30)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: they will have to eat the stones
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;B[ef]C[USGO2 [-\]: the players never want to break
aa [3d\]: black stones are chocolate
USGO2 [-\]: only the recorders do :(
Hofobbefes [1d\]: never heard this joke, seriusly
aa [3d\]: what are the white stones
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;W[hb]C[aa [3d\]: white chocolate one hopes
ghaele [2d\]: k9 big moyo
Warfreak2 [4d\]: mint imperials
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;B[ib]
;W[hc]C[pwnnuki [1d\]: black are junior mints white are nonpareil
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;B[hl]
;W[hm]C[SirFlunky [2k\]: white stones is actually a term for drugs...
Sanjang [2k\]: where is b cash?
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;B[lj]
;W[mc]C[aa [3d\]: in terms of territory b is not doing bad
Sanjang [2k\]: looks like
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;B[md]
;W[ld]C[aa [3d\]: game looks even
aa [3d\]: n17 nice tesuji
Sanjang [2k\]: but can k9 ill ALL ?
Sanjang [2k\]: kill
Warfreak2 [4d\]: m18 just about fixes both sides
Sanjang [2k\]: m10 100%?
Ephemere [3d\]: lefts side is pretty nice, now the question is on this reduction stone, w has to be agressive otherwise b will use it to close his own moyo
aa [3d\]: b shouldn't atari l16 if he wants to have n14 atari
DJhGO [3k\]: is there real alternative to m18 now?
JeansebL [7d?\]: lol they keep making mistakes with daniel's name :p
Sanjang [2k\]: what is his name?
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;B[lb]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: w reduces quite a few b points here in sente
JeansebL [7d?\]: Daniel Gourdeau
Hofobbefes [1d\]: is he canadian?
JeansebL [7d?\]: yes
SirFlunky [2k\]: how is n17 a tesuji?
Sanjang [2k\]: sente tesuji
pwnnuki [1d\]: how isn't it a tesuji?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b left with only 7 points or so, and w sente
USGO2 [-\]: JeansebL we didn't mess up his name
USGO2 [-\]: look
SirFlunky [2k\]: didnt he have sente anyway since the aji existed?
Sanjang [2k\]: but this sente helps white moyo
JeansebL [7d?\]: lol usgo :)
DJhGO [3k\]: not 7 more like 9-10
USGO2 [-\]: :D
Sanjang [2k\]: :D
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;W[mf]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: just because aji exists doesn't mean you already have whatever you cash it in for
aa [3d\]: omg so slow
pwnnuki [1d\]: this seems really slack
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b has ways to remove the aji, not necessarily in gote
Sanjang [2k\]: it was a nice tesuji
aa [3d\]: now something like j11 
Sanjang [2k\]: the tesuji was amazing
]
;B[nj]
;W[oi]C[SirFlunky [2k\]: b says " go for all or go broke"
steve [5k\]: go big or go home
SirFlunky [2k\]: yea what steve said
SirFlunky [2k\]: way better than my phrase
]
;B[ro]C[Gor [2d\]: s5 soon?
Gor [2d\]: lol
SirFlunky [2k\]: never xD
JeansebL [7d?\]: lol Gor
Warfreak2 [4d\]: get rich or die trying
aa [3d\]: nice b got s5 
Oloril [-\]: your phrase is normally shortened to 'go for broke'
aa [3d\]: not w will ignore and kill m10 
SirFlunky [2k\]: he didnt "get" s5 yet
SirFlunky [2k\]: only if w responds and doesnt find a better tenuki ;)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: he did, it is his stone
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;W[kl]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: he just didn't get it in sente, is what you mean
SirFlunky [2k\]: now he got it, yea, but im not sure he wants it now
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's enormous
aa [3d\]: b stones very weak
SirFlunky [2k\]: thats what i always tell the ladies, and yet none agree ;(
steve [5k\]: hm, what here now... k10?
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;B[rm]C[steve [5k\]: ah was looking at that too :)
MV160 [7k?\]: ouch
Ephemere [3d\]: getting dangerous!
Ephemere [3d\]: k10 ?
pwnnuki [1d\]: b says "prove those stones are dead"
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b says, you can't catch me, i'm the gingerbread man
tonyho [1d\]: if k10
jwc [-\]: side bigger than center?
tonyho [1d\]: b may q10 of sth to make aji
steve [5k\]: this is big sente reduction
Warfreak2 [4d\]: l11 seems more capturing
MV160 [7k?\]: what would w catch?
Ephemere [3d\]: maybe b can next r10 and sacrifice the 2 stones to squeeze on both sides?
Hofobbefes [1d\]: s7 is poisonous
steve [5k\]: the side is huge for white, absolutely sente
tonyho [1d\]: can w h10 and get the whole mid?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: h10 surely biting off more than he can chew
Ephemere [3d\]: agreed, k10 seems more reasonable
Rukis [1k\]: I wanna see Taisha played
Hofobbefes [1d\]: too late
]
;W[fh]C[Hofobbefes [1d\]: uhuh!
steve [5k\]: seems deep
steve [5k\]: counter reduction
steve [5k\]: ?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: trying to get a sente to make bigger centre
pwnnuki [1d\]: tenuki battle
JeansebL [7d?\]: it's called leaning
Hofobbefes [1d\]: the whale opened his mouth
Warfreak2 [4d\]: you shouldn't lean on things which won't support your weight
Warfreak2 [4d\]: you will fall over
Ephemere [3d\]: missclick in real game?
tonyho [1d\]: h12?
Ephemere [3d\]: b sure feels like counter attacking on that
Ephemere [3d\]: can something simple like h10 work?
steve [5k\]: i like h10, too, so it's probably wrong :)
Rukis [1k\]: looks hard for white
Hofobbefes [1d\]: k10 for b?
]
;B[hj]C[Ephemere [3d\]: k 10 seems a little vague and subject to attack
Hofobbefes [1d\]: b agrees
Ephemere [3d\]: See steve ;)
steve [5k\]: i like it, threaten to gut the center or take a huge side
Ephemere [3d\]: now it's w stones that miss a purpose 
tonyho [1d\]: b ahead now
Pempu [3d\]: Oh man. Commenting on these games would be so sweet with variations :)
USGO1 [-\]: ben sighs
]
;W[hh]C[KochKoch [1d\]: nooo
KochKoch [1d\]: we need a ben slam
KochKoch [1d\]: not a ben sigh
Pempu [3d\]: Hey USGO did you guys consider broadcasting to alternative servers at all?
tonyho [1d\]: k10?
Ephemere [3d\]: k10 is too nice
USGO1 [-\]: no; such as?
Pempu [3d\]: There are many :)
steve [5k\]: f8 is one of the things I'm looking at right now
Ephemere [3d\]: at least j11  if you're going to play on this side
Gor [2d\]: s7 huge success for black if center turns to dame
Ephemere [3d\]: but maybe switch back to the right, r10 ?
USGO1 [-\]: KGS is our longtime broadcasting partner
Pempu [3d\]: Ok. Kibitzing is just easier with variation sharing
steve [5k\]: maybe j10?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: goooo ben
DJhGO [3k\]: nontheless wbdauk is rarely used considering they show pro tourneys games
Ephemere [3d\]: I'd probably j11 sente then r10 
steve [5k\]: yea, forgot about that.. fixing two things at once is hard
]
;B[ii]
;W[dh]
;B[ch]C[Ephemere [3d\]: told ya :)
]
;W[dg]
;B[cg]C[Gor [2d\]: wbaduk is much more populated than kgs
]
;W[df]C[xedover [?\]: and yet we draw a larger audience here
pwnnuki [1d\]: kibitz culture of kgs is golden
]
;B[rk]C[Gor [2d\]: its hard to kibitz in korean :)
steve [5k\]: ow ow, like stepping on hot coals
Pempu [3d\]: wbaduk is not good for kibitz 
USGO1 [-\]: we used to broadcast on igs, which had many more players, but we got a fraction of the audience we get on KGS
]
;W[ri]
;B[qj]
;W[qi]C[Ephemere [3d\]: j15 
USGO1 [-\]: another ben sigh
steve [5k\]: bingo
pwnnuki [1d\]: there are too many go servers
Pempu [3d\]: I agree :(
SirFlunky [2k\]: j15 too obvious
SirFlunky [2k\]: cant play it
steve [5k\]: j15 and white territory is very small
]
;B[pj]
;W[oj]
;B[pi]C[SirFlunky [2k\]: j14
SirFlunky [2k\]: can escape to both sides
]
;W[ph]C[SirFlunky [2k\]: and connects with e14 easier
steve [5k\]: now j15
Ephemere [3d\]: r12 first maybe
pwnnuki [1d\]: this damage is not recoverable for w now
steve [5k\]: resign detector just started blaring
]
;B[qh]C[tonyho [1d\]: j16
tonyho [1d\]: wow
Ephemere [3d\]: not surprising, capturing q9 stone revive the threat on o7 
tonyho [1d\]: w can resign
Ephemere [3d\]: it's absolute sente and b doesn't loose any aji here
spacetime [4d\]: F9 cut possible?
steve [5k\]: p9 oof
Ephemere [3d\]: f9?
tonyho [1d\]: p9 s12
tonyho [1d\]: f9 f10
spacetime [4d\]: f9 f10 g9 g10 d11
steve [5k\]: looking at p9 and k8
SirFlunky [2k\]: if you press alt and play f4, does the board close?
]
;W[rh]C[aa [3d\]: b is favorable
aa [3d\]: problem is p7 will suffer
Ephemere [3d\]: p12 o12 p9 o11 o9 
USGO1 [-\]: B enters last 10m of BT
spacetime [4d\]: W needs to F9!
aa [3d\]: p9 directly 
ggglhf: bt?
spacetime [4d\]: basic time
ggglhf: whats the byo?
spacetime [4d\]: how much time for w
xedover [?\]: 5/40
ggglhf: canadian? :O
Ephemere [3d\]: f9 f8 first maybe? then d11 is no pb
xedover [?\]: 5 periods of 40 seconds
]
;B[oh]C[ggglhf: thx
xedover [?\]: Options -> Rules -> Rules
]
;W[ok]
;B[pg]C[pwnnuki [1d\]: oh my
]
;W[qg]C[Ephemere [3d\]: o12 
]
;B[kd]
;W[ph]C[absurdmike [2k\]: does f9work?
pwnnuki [1d\]: these three stones are not very heavy for b
Ephemere [3d\]: those 3 stones have no value, it was w territory before
Ephemere [3d\]: agreed pwnnuki
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w doesn't seem to have done very well out of this
alfi [4k\]: So c18
]
;B[le]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: b got to capture m16? that's pretty big
Ephemere [3d\]: this give b h16 I would welcome it
pwnnuki [1d\]: it's over for w
Ephemere [3d\]: even b18 is bigger than o12 
pwnnuki [1d\]: I blame this whole result on s18 
]
;W[fk]C[tonyho [1d\]: with m15, seems too late to try now
Ephemere [3d\]: a littl too late now tha b has m15 ...
USGO1 [-\]: ben steps away for more water
]
;B[kf]C[USGO1 [-\]: daniel takes a walk too
tonyho [1d\]: w needs to kill
pwnnuki [1d\]: did they pass a food break or can they agree to take one at any time?
]
;W[kg]C[Violence [1d\]: nah they have plenty of time to eat between now and the later round
spacetime [4d\]: final battle here
]
;B[ih]C[pwnnuki [1d\]: anyone kibbitzing here from massgo?
aa [3d\]: can't believe b allowed f9 
USGO1 [-\]: no lunch or dinner break; players prefer to play thru and eat later
Ephemere [3d\]: if b gets out, f9 doesn't do much
]
;W[di]C[DJhGO [3k\]: my counting might be worse than yours, but isn't black leading by far? like that far, there is no such territory on the board remaining?
spacetime [4d\]: white is tying to kill the whole center
spacetime [4d\]: j13
spacetime [4d\]: if the center lives w loses
DJhGO [3k\]: well, if to kill the whole center is whites only hope it's hopeless
Ephemere [3d\]: making b chose right now is crafty
]
;B[ci]
;W[jf]C[USGO1 [-\]: b has 1m BT
]
;B[hg]
;W[gi]C[Ephemere [3d\]: and again w will only be left with what he had from the beginning (m14 ) and b will take back the ko 
USGO1 [-\]: b now in OT
Ephemere [3d\]: j14 if nothing better
USGO1 [-\]: 5/40
]
;B[jl]
;W[jm]
;B[jg]
;W[lf]C[USGO1 [-\]: 4/40
]
;B[if]
;W[ie]
;B[he]
;W[hd]C[Ephemere [3d\]: b is alive g10 f10 g13 h11 l12 
Ephemere [3d\]: (no need to play g10, just to show )
USGO1 [-\]: b 3/40
DJhGO [3k\]: how much time is left for white?
]
;B[id]
;W[je]C[USGO1 [-\]: 32m
tonyho [1d\]: how come w behind can have more time...
]
;B[kh]C[steve [5k\]: maybe that's why he's behind
aa [3d\]: not so easy to live
]
;W[lh]C[Ephemere [3d\]: b has forcing moves all around
pwnnuki [1d\]: I feel so bad for w
pwnnuki [1d\]: I hate being in these situations
Ephemere [3d\]: even h9 is sente
]
;B[gj]C[DJhGO [3k\]: there are faster and slower players,  several asian pros are playing hyper-blitz like on serious lewels
]
;W[fj]C[Ephemere [3d\]: g13 
]
;B[gg]C[tonyho [1d\]: but l11
Ephemere [3d\]: l11 w only hope but doesn't work
spacetime [4d\]: h11
]
;W[ki]C[aa [3d\]: l11 good
aa [3d\]: b in deep trouble
steve [5k\]: g12 is a must, no?
USGO1 [-\]: b 2/40
Ephemere [3d\]: k12 m11 g12 and j13 is an eye...
]
;B[gh]
;W[ge]C[spacetime [4d\]: Ko??
steve [5k\]: k10
]
;B[jh]C[steve [5k\]: l10
]
;W[hf]C[steve [5k\]: yikes, this is too high risks for me
Sanjang [2k\]: im back, whos losing?
tonyho [1d\]: k10
USGO1 [-\]: b 1/40
tonyho [1d\]: or g8 first
steve [5k\]: ko still
Sanjang [2k\]: i doubt what w just did
]
;B[jj]C[steve [5k\]: ah, black white owes at m11
steve [5k\]: see
tonyho [1d\]: yes, that's a ko
steve [5k\]: white* owes
spacetime [4d\]: J13 ko for the kill
spacetime [4d\]: L9 now
tonyho [1d\]: but w very solid now
Ephemere [3d\]: j13 is a mistake, w need to f11 first
Sanjang [2k\]: whos pwned in that?
]
;W[kk]
;B[kj]
;W[li]C[steve [5k\]: how things have changed
behta [1k\]: g8
spacetime [4d\]: buckle up boys, it's ko time
]
;B[ik]C[Ephemere [3d\]: and... not a ko anymore
]
;W[gk]C[Ephemere [3d\]: h11 
]
;B[jk]C[aa [3d\]: nice
Timk [1d\]: there is "no ko" ?
]
;W[fi]
;B[hi]
;W[ig]C[spacetime [4d\]: what now?
pwnnuki [1d\]: b has two local threats
Ephemere [3d\]: my mistake, just a ko w can't win
Nirvanc [2k\]: 08
Nirvanc [2k\]: o8
spacetime [4d\]: so what is big enough for white then? c5? s6?
]
;B[ml]
;W[lm]
;B[if]C[Timk [1d\]: don't even know ;_
DJhGO [3k\]: no thing is really big enough
Doge [6d\]: b was so far ahead...
tonyho [1d\]: h9
Ephemere [3d\]: if b dies and get both corner in compensation, he can still win
spacetime [4d\]: I think he needs 20+ from ko threat
spacetime [4d\]: white does that is
Timk [1d\]: maybe s6 /q4 
lance [1k\]: c5 looks big
]
;W[co]C[pupukani [2d\]: this gives a 1000 ko threats
spacetime [4d\]: this is like 30
]
;B[bo]C[pupukani [2d\]: actually only 2
]
;W[ig]C[pupukani [2d\]: maybe
Ephemere [3d\]: o7 ?
]
;B[nm]C[pwnnuki [1d\]: this is brutal
aa [3d\]: w in trouble
spacetime [4d\]: a lot of local threats here
steve [5k\]: next threat cap l5?
]
;W[nl]
;B[if]C[steve [5k\]: or just fill k6
]
;W[do]
;B[bn]
;W[ig]
;B[nk]
;W[ol]
;B[if]
;W[pp]
;B[pq]
;W[ig]
;B[mk]
;W[jn]
;B[if]
;W[rn]C[steve [5k\]: still has the threat to connect out, right?
]
;B[ig]C[steve [5k\]: I guess that was enough
USGO1 [-\]: sorry; he actually started to play at t6'
USGO1 [-\]: and switched with 1 sec on the clock'
pwnnuki [1d\]: now w get all his territory back
]
;W[so]C[steve [5k\]: as long as it's enough I guess
]
;B[sp]C[spacetime [4d\]: ok.... so who's winning?
joh2000 [-\]: w
Doge [6d\]: white tinning now
Nirvanc [2k\]: black ahead, no ?
steve [5k\]: but it seemed to me like leaving a usable threat
]
;W[sn]C[wade [5d\]: is there a result site?
USGO1 [-\]: usgo.org
behta [1k\]: white yose is better$*
wade [5d\]: thx
xedover [?\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014
]
;B[kp]C[spacetime [4d\]: yea seems even on the board
spacetime [4d\]: woo!!
spacetime [4d\]: what a lucky bastard
pwnnuki [1d\]: steve if b connect at t6 just to play o5 then w has an even bigger threat at r3 
]
;W[jd]C[steve [5k\]: ah, ok
spacetime [4d\]: s3 massive no?
]
;B[kc]C[Ephemere [3d\]: not bigger than the 2 other corners
Hofobbefes [1d\]: win the ko and lose the game?
Doge [6d\]: b18 is by far biggest 
]
;W[mp]
;B[mq]C[steve [5k\]: well it sounds like win the ko or lose the ko
lance [1k\]: was a flower ko for white
joh2000 [-\]: what ko
spacetime [4d\]: s3!!
joh2000 [-\]: s3 smal
skyywalker [3d\]: s3 is gote
spacetime [4d\]: s3, w connects, s4, r5, then sack the two and descend at s2
spacetime [4d\]: huge
]
;W[bb]C[MaLa [5d?\]: erm...
MaLa [5d?\]: you drunk?
MaLa [5d?\]: you either answer balck capturing 2 stones...
MaLa [5d?\]: or lose everything
MaLa [5d?\]: and if you answer...
]
;B[cd]C[MaLa [5d?\]: black gets s2
]
;W[cb]C[spacetime [4d\]: why not let black capture and pull back at q7?
wade [5d\]: losees what mala?
skyywalker [3d\]: mala u misread
]
;B[ha]
;W[ga]
;B[ia]C[MaLa [5d?\]: then it is me who is drunk
Hofobbefes [1d\]: no shame in it
pwnnuki [1d\]: haha
MaLa [5d?\]: you extend before white takes, of course ^.^
Nirvanc [2k\]: r12 or c2 for black ?
MaLa [5d?\]: erm before balck takes
modt: sky means space misread
skyywalker [3d\]: r12 is pass
spacetime [4d\]: i never suggested r12
sedgwick [5d?\]: If w tenuki here b can d17
spacetime [4d\]: mm
spacetime [4d\]: maybe c15 then for w?
Doge [6d\]: now s3 is biggest i think...
]
;W[br]
;B[cr]
;W[cs]C[Ephemere [3d\]: wow... no g18 ?
]
;B[gb]C[Ephemere [3d\]: ah... ok
Ephemere [3d\]: e18 for w then?
Doge [6d\]: white can run it out
Ephemere [3d\]: no because of d15 
Doge [6d\]: its irrellevant
]
;W[fa]C[Ephemere [3d\]: hum... maybe now
killmejk [4k\]: go ben!
]
;B[fb]
;W[ea]C[aa [3d\]: w winning by a lot
]
;B[eb]
;W[da]C[DJhGO [3k\]: sure?
]
;B[ni]
;W[nh]C[steve [5k\]: time pressure :/
Maslov [3d\]: s3 end
joh2000 [-\]: by around komi
]
;B[ed]
;W[ec]
;B[de]C[killmejk [4k\]: :0
]
;W[dc]C[spacetime [4d\]: s3 is worth 9 points
]
;B[qo]
;W[pn]
;B[qq]
;W[bq]
;B[bp]C[modt: go to sleep
WarMachine [2d\]: more like 5 gote
]
;W[hs]
;B[is]C[spacetime [4d\]: almost even on the board, so i'd say W+10
]
;W[gs]
;B[iq]
;W[jr]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: goooo ben
]
;B[ir]
;W[pa]
;B[oa]
;W[qa]
;B[ld]C[will122166 [1d\]: hey Chris, this is William Luff. How are you doing on personel and computers today?
]
;W[fd]
;B[ee]
;W[aq]C[Teylon [?\]: Can't see who is who on android kgs...
pokale [2d?\]: i am pokale
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i am pokale.
]
;B[fl]
;W[gl]C[killmejk [4k\]: ben lockhart is pokale
]
;B[fm]
;W[fn]
;B[kn]
;W[hk]C[Teylon [?\]: The app sucks
]
;B[mi]
;W[hp]
;B[ip]
;W[ap]C[killmejk [4k\]: k17 
]
;B[mh]
;W[ao]
;B[an]
;W[cm]C[killmejk [4k\]: ?
Prescout [9k\]: ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: oooh nice
]
;B[bm]C[Gilders [20k\]: C7 what ?
Gilders [20k\]: oh god yes it's very intelligent
Nirvanc [2k\]: =p
]
;W[dp]
;B[dq]
;W[eo]
;B[dk]
;W[jc]
;B[jb]C[aa [3d\]: b will resign
Gilders [20k\]: yes
]
;W[np]
;B[nq]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: w won 1 pointor maybe 1/2
Prescout [9k\]: why should b resign??
aa [3d\]: more like 8 points
wade [5d\]: a17 is huge
Gilders [20k\]: whit win of ten points 
zsolt [15k\]: 10-12
]
;W[ac]
;B[ad]
;W[ab]
;B[gf]
;W[he]C[killmejk [4k\]: j7
]
;B[il]C[Sanjang [2k\]: who won dat?
Sanjang [2k\]: cus im pokalish
]
;W[eg]C[Gilders [20k\]: whit
Gilders [20k\]: white
]
;B[fg]
;W[fe]
;B[ei]C[WarMachine [2d\]: mistake
]
;W[eh]
;B[ej]
;W[ff]C[spacetime [4d\]: it's equivalent
]
;B[ce]C[killmejk [4k\]: !!!
Wagaboo [2k\]: w lost 1 pt
spacetime [4d\]: og wait, nvm ur right
skyywalker [3d\]: b too
spacetime [4d\]: g6
skyywalker [3d\]: ok
]
;W[km]C[skyywalker [3d\]: g3 
Nirvanc [2k\]: g3
ToGoLTT [4k\]: w wins with 11 points
ggglhf: by
]
;B[lk]
;W[gq]
;B[ko]
;W[mg]
;B[ji]
;W[lg]
;B[no]
;W[gn]
;B[mm]
;W[ek]C[killmejk [4k\]: d18
MaLa [5d?\]: how many bonuspoints do you get per B2 bomber under AGA rules?
USGO1 [-\]: counting now
killmejk [4k\]: b1
USGO1 [-\]: next round 4p EST
minimalist [2k\]: thats how many in CET? :)
MaLa [5d?\]: 10 pm
minimalist [2k\]: thanks
ggglhf: cet = gmt +0?
minimalist [2k\]: +1
xedover [?\]: <gmt>2015-01-06 21:00</gmt>
killmejk [4k\]: score?
USGO1 [-\]: w by 12.5
USGO1 [-\]: thasnks for watching!
minimalist [2k\]: thx
xedover [?\]: thanks usgo1
Warfreak2 [4d\]: super ben
]
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