(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[3rd AGA Pro Qualification]PW[Ben Lockhart]PB[Eric Lui]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2015-01-05]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dan Steinbrook]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]
;B[dq]
;W[pp]
;B[ce]
;W[do]
;B[cm]
;W[cq]
;B[cr]
;W[cp]
;B[gq]C[spacetime [4d\]: Morning people
NeoNemesis [-\]: good morning
]
;W[fo]C[USGO4 [-\]: This is Round 3 of the 3rd AGA Pro Qualification Tournament. I'm Dan Steinbrook, I'll be transcribing
]
;B[er]
;W[dl]C[spacetime [4d\]: interesting moves, haven't seen F5-D8 before
spacetime [4d\]: seems nice and simple
]
;B[dm]
;W[em]
;B[cl]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]
;W[dj]
;B[ci]C[Xylol [3k?\]: F5 is first move not im my pro DB
]
;W[hp]
;B[en]C[spacetime [4d\]: can white get away with f6? or does he have to connect at e5..
]
;W[eo]
;B[fm]
;W[el]
;B[fn]
;W[dn]C[spacetime [4d\]: oh boy. fight right out of the gate
spacetime [4d\]: as long as W can get f3 in sente, he's connected out, and fight seems good for him. unless B is going to tenuki here and leave the aji
]
;B[hn]C[agakenny [?\]: hard game for w already
TyTaLuS [1k\]: yea this dosent seem so good for w
Warfreak2 [4d\]: super ben
]
;W[fq]C[spacetime [4d\]: hard to tell who's weaker... if B blocks and W can get H3, G4 in sente, then jump at G9, seems ok
TyTaLuS [1k\]: man how much do you want w to get in sente
]
;B[gk]C[TyTaLuS [1k\]: this is sente sure but i don think b will respond to h3 later
TyTaLuS [1k\]: not even to this it seems
]
;W[fr]C[TyTaLuS [1k\]: things just got to complicated for me
TyTaLuS [1k\]: black should live i guess? or to small
served [3d\]: ko I think
TyTaLuS [1k\]: oo he cant even live
agakenny [?\]: b g2 is ko, g2 e1 d1 f1 g4
Ootakamoku [2d\]: few josekis with similar looking shape that leads to ko
agakenny [?\]: unless w will give up h4 in the early stage...
Ootakamoku [2d\]: dont think so
Ootakamoku [2d\]: or I wouldnt be able to give it up anyways, it looks way too big
]
;B[gh]C[agakenny [?\]: b smart move
]
;W[ed]C[agakenny [?\]: lower left not even clear in one more move for w
Ootakamoku [2d\]: huh?
spacetime [4d\]: if white gets e3 it's dead
Ootakamoku [2d\]: ya
spacetime [4d\]: ules e3 is sente for b, i think it's already dead
spacetime [4d\]: *unless
Ootakamoku [2d\]: spactime, g2 leading to ko
]
;B[ee]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: e15 looks vulgar
]
;W[fe]
;B[ef]
;W[cd]
;B[be]
;W[jc]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: until bottom left resolved, difficult to decide if want to approach from o3 side or r6 side?
OneStone [6d\]: The bottom left is unresolved in the sense that it will be ko: b3 b4 b1 a3 a2 
]
;B[qn]
;W[np]C[wolokom [5k\]: R6 necessery?
OneStone [6d\]: OTOH B b3 b4 a3 b1 b2 a1 f1 lead to other problems but it isn't easy to resolve
spacetime [4d\]: what if white plays b1 in response to b3?
OneStone [6d\]: e.g. after a1, B e3 e1 d1 f1 f4 is a problem
OneStone [6d\]: b3 b1 b5 
spacetime [4d\]: oh wow, yea
OneStone [6d\]: W can capture c2 etc, but it's small
OneStone [6d\]: Don't forget W still has some aji at g8 f8 f9 or g8 h8 h9 
]
;B[pk]C[agakenny [?\]: g8 b will h8 seal w in
]
;W[od]C[agakenny [?\]: b has many sente in bottom left to use
KochKoch [1d\]: much sente, so wow
]
;B[pf]
;W[qc]
;B[rc]
;W[pc]
;B[ne]C[spacetime [4d\]: B seems in control
lance [1k\]: white has no momentum
agakenny [?\]: b tried to null the g8 aji, when w g8 b will h7 to get all center
]
;W[mc]
;B[lq]C[spacetime [4d\]: W needs to find a way to use that aji soon
agakenny [?\]: w has a hard time to decide which move is better since unknown lower left
acuflow [4d\]: how's time?
USGO4 [-\]: w has an hour left, b has 50 min
acuflow [4d\]: thanks USGO4 :)
elguapo [-\]: they have all the time in the world
wolokom [5k\]: excuse me what is a well done joseki in this case?
]
;W[jq]
;B[lo]C[spacetime [4d\]: k3 seems wrong
agakenny [?\]: k3 protect b g2 move
lance [1k\]: white needs some rhythm
agakenny [?\]: b has a ko at b3
acuflow [4d\]: I really don't like K3 either
wolokom [5k\]: Q 6? 
]
;W[jn]C[spacetime [4d\]: aiming for g8 soon
]
;B[nr]
;W[pn]
;B[pm]C[wolokom [5k\]: boring
]
;W[qo]
;B[on]
;W[po]C[spacetime [4d\]: i expected p6/7, r5 lets black seal off. I feel like W's chance is to attack m5 group
]
;B[rn]
;W[om]
;B[pl]
;W[nn]C[acuflow [4d\]: I don't like s6.
agakenny [?\]: r3
spacetime [4d\]: i feel like both players have undervalued the center in these past dozen or so moves
]
;B[lm]C[spacetime [4d\]: g8 time?
]
;W[nl]C[agakenny [?\]: k5 now?
]
;B[id]
;W[jd]
;B[ie]
;W[hb]
;B[bq]
;W[bp]
;B[aq]
;W[bs]
;B[br]
;W[as]C[Maslov [3d\]: a4
]
;B[gp]
;W[fp]
;B[go]C[agakenny [?\]: no more g8 aji
]
;W[gr]C[spacetime [4d\]: :( have to look for R15 aji now instead :)
]
;B[bn]
;W[bo]
;B[hq]
;W[hr]C[agakenny [?\]: D4 is sente, b corner bent 4 not die yet
anewtry [1d\]: w is quite ahead imo
anewtry [1d\]: i mean black
Esquisse [9d\]: perhaps grey ?
martin97 [-\]: grey is certainly strong
anewtry [1d\]: b is ahead to to me :)
CBlue [?\]: how old are the players?
spacetime [4d\]: w has about 50 plus komi, black's left side looks to be at least 45
spacetime [4d\]: so b only needs 10 on the right
]
;B[iq]C[spacetime [4d\]: and he has more center potential
]
;W[ir]C[Timk [1d\]: agree with spacetime
Timk [1d\]: +B gets mid
martin97 [-\]: w got 70
Warfreak2 [4d\]: also lower left is likely to become a ko
agakenny [?\]: b left side expand now
Timk [1d\]: it's magari simoku, no 
Timk [1d\]: ?
spacetime [4d\]: bent 4 right
Warfreak2 [4d\]: bent four is only dead if you don't need to capture it
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w has one eye
]
;B[jo]C[spacetime [4d\]: fair point
GodofGo [6d\]: b shd e1 first
spacetime [4d\]: L6?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no hurry to e1, i think
martin97 [-\]: e1 doesnt do anything
Warfreak2 [4d\]: keep up, martin
critter [1k\]: ll not bent 4, it is bent 3.5, one stone removes/creates ko
martin97 [-\]: corner is gote for both so uninteresting atm
Warfreak2 [4d\]: corner is not gote for both
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b makes the bent four in sente
spacetime [4d\]: hey what about this: A 6 is sente for white of c10 and cut, so maybe white does have a second eye at e4??
martin97 [-\]: oh sry
Warfreak2 [4d\]: a6 is not sente in a million years
lance [1k\]: very siderial remark
spacetime [4d\]: ur not afraid of white push at c10 and b11?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: only a flesh wound
Warfreak2 [4d\]: what does white do with b11 once it's on the board?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i don't see anything scary
]
;W[lr]C[agakenny [?\]: w tried to fix bent 4 issue
Timk [1d\]: it's annoying aji
agakenny [?\]: but it cost
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w took out a payday loan to kill c2
spacetime [4d\]: that center is too big...
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if he doesn't pay interest, it can be repossessed
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i vote l2
agakenny [?\]: L2 is good for b
]
;B[mp]
;W[mr]C[agakenny [?\]: wow lower right w in danger too, w pays too much
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i guess w wil take o2, sac k3, and fight the ko
Warfreak2 [4d\]: n3 o3 offering l2 p2
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b might be able to pull out at p2 and resist
]
;B[no]C[arbas [1k?\]: p4?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes, p4
Warfreak2 [4d\]: this is a good exchange before playing n3
]
;W[nq]C[spacetime [4d\]: ?!?!
Quinn: NOOOOOO
agakenny [?\]: wow huge b center
arbas [1k?\]: ho
Quinn: P4!!!
spacetime [4d\]: oooh, n6 m6 counter
Violence [1d\]: I don't think p4 worked
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w chooses to throw the dice
]
;B[oo]C[Quinn: ah, you are right. p4 didn't work
Warfreak2 [4d\]: worked for what?
]
;W[ro]C[Zaphyrus [-\]: very big
Violence [1d\]: The lower left gets into trouble if you p4, doesn't it?
arbas [1k?\]: no cut with p4
Warfreak2 [4d\]: as opposed to giving b a big centre territory?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: nothing is ideal
Warfreak2 [4d\]: but this way b just plays l14 and w has to play the living game
Quinn: indeed, white is a ways behind it seems :(
spacetime [4d\]: I think B has to defned against n6/m6
CBlue [?\]: bk7 too slow?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: n6 n5 is an awful exchange for w
sharma [6d\]: no more miracle for the white guy
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b can push at cut p4 directly then
]
;B[nj]C[critter [1k\]: white has ~ 72 pts, black has ~75 pts, but black has more potential
spacetime [4d\]: not anymore now that w has s5
Warfreak2 [4d\]: maybe not
Warfreak2 [4d\]: maybe there is something
Warfreak2 [4d\]: n6 n5 then b p4 p3 q3 r3 p2 
critter [1k\]: r u unsure?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: depends on what happens after n6 n5 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if b has a stone at l5 then a squeeze works
critter [1k\]: i m unsure
]
;W[hg]
;B[gg]
;W[hf]
;B[ge]C[CBlue [?\]: hm this looks ok for w?
critter [1k\]: if white gets cut off, black has huge center
]
;W[gf]
;B[ff]
;W[fd]
;B[hh]
;W[jg]C[critter [1k\]: b gave w 13 pts at j16 in exchange for small pts at h10, but better control over o6
]
;B[jf]
;W[ig]
;B[kf]
;W[he]C[USGO5 [-\]: Player portraits just posted: https://www.facebook.com/AmericanGoAssociation
]
;B[hc]
;W[gc]
;B[ib]
;W[gb]
;B[ji]C[arbas [1k?\]: w in deep trouble 
Quinn: yup, G18 probably should havebeen at H16, followed by a white K18
Quinn: though Ben is a heck of a lot stronger than all the rest of us
Quinn: (most the rest of us)
]
;W[kg]
;B[lf]
;W[ki]
;B[kj]C[acuflow [4d\]: final gamble!
CBlue [?\]: how about b k10 instead for more safety?
spacetime [4d\]: W must find some spectacular way to use aji of o8 , r15, and who knows what else to have a chance
]
;W[mg]C[Timk [1d\]: m10 is coming ?
Timk [1d\]: or just crosscut
lance [1k\]: j16 black's liability
CBlue [?\]: w should be able to pull off something here
CBlue [?\]: involving k10 :-p
]
;B[oe]C[CBlue [?\]: hm or possibly j11?
CBlue [?\]: how about w N10?
critter [1k\]: or t1 or t2 or ...?
]
;W[lj]
;B[li]
;W[mi]
;B[kh]C[moesasji: no sweat for b
]
;W[mj]C[spacetime [4d\]: here it is: the final showdown!
arbas [1k?\]: hehehehe
moesasji: countdown, in your space
]
;B[lg]
;W[oj]C[arbas [1k?\]: bood and tears
arbas [1k?\]: blood*
Quinn: Oh boy!
USGO4 [-\]: black has now entered byo yomi
USGO4 [-\]: 40 seconds five times
]
;B[nk]
;W[ok]
;B[ol]
;W[ni]C[CBlue [?\]: wow b is really going the low-liberties route
rinkaio [1k\]: difficult for w
spacetime [4d\]: how much time left for W?
USGO4 [-\]: white 19 minutes left
]
;B[mk]
;W[pj]C[Quinn: I was going to ask that same question WL
Quinn: This is DF btw
spacetime [4d\]: oh cool
]
;B[qj]C[Kretzsche [2k?\]: can w win if this lives?
Timk [1d\]: can THIS stay alive ?
]
;W[qi]C[rinkaio [1k\]: I was about to ask the same
arbas [1k?\]: :)
rinkaio [1k\]: w will die 
]
;B[rj]
;W[qg]C[CBlue [?\]: m9 now double-sente?
]
;B[oh]C[Bones [2d\]: even if w lives he's behind
]
;W[re]C[Kretzsche [2k?\]: thanks for answering
Kretzsche [2k?\]: :D
Timk [1d\]: if p11 now ?
]
;B[rd]C[Kretzsche [2k?\]: p11? are you scared? :D
martin97 [-\]: p13 if
dddd: who won between jeremy and ricky?
Timk [1d\]: yes i am :)
served [3d\]: jeremy
spacetime [4d\]: can w R15 and kill the 3 stones?
CBlue [?\]: exchange m9 now just for points?
]
;W[og]C[Kretzsche [2k?\]: this way b can even damage the corner more
]
;B[oi]C[martin97 [-\]: w m12 incoming
Kretzsche [2k?\]: also i dont understand endgame very much but would you say it is black privilege to live on the bottom left now?
martin97 [-\]: how to live?
Kretzsche [2k?\]: e1?
]
;W[pi]C[martin97 [-\]: e1 e3 d2c1 is dead
pokale [2d?\]: winner will get the pro title?
Kretzsche [2k?\]: is this a bent 4?
martin97 [-\]: yes
Borachon [3k\]: yes
wuwei [3k\]: e1 is gote
Arcos [12k?\]: d1?
]
;B[ph]
;W[qh]C[embeck [5k\]: winner of tournament...not this game
pokale [2d?\]: ok
aa [3d\]: w will res soon
]
;B[pg]C[martin97 [-\]: yes
]
;W[qe]C[aa [3d\]: q16 
martin97 [-\]: wait
spacetime [4d\]: trade?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: what trade
]
;B[pe]
;W[pd]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: idgi
Timk [1d\]: wooot
spacetime [4d\]: or can b play s18?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: why didn't b just q16
martin97 [-\]: q16 q15 p17 o16 n16 o17 p18 was fine
CBlue [?\]: w will capture b inside without b m9 or so i think @ wf
Violence [1d\]: r14 here is fine, right?
martin97 [-\]: ah no
spacetime [4d\]: white would not play o16, he would capture the corner
]
;B[qf]
;W[rf]C[CBlue [?\]: if b just tries q16
Violence [1d\]: this is just gg
Warfreak2 [4d\]: how does w capture b inside
Warfreak2 [4d\]: there is no cut at p14
martin97 [-\]: q16 q15 p17 o16 n16 o17 p18 n15 n14 m9 n8 p14 o14 o13 
moesasji: s13?
CBlue [?\]: well b can pull back after q16, but then this is better no?
]
;B[ri]C[martin97 [-\]: m9 is sente dont forget
Warfreak2 [4d\]: pull back where
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b plays q16 and captures the corner
Warfreak2 [4d\]: what does w do
pokale [2d?\]: resign
aa [3d\]: if q16 , w would q15 p17 o16 q18 n15 
]
;W[rb]C[CBlue [?\]: w n15?
CBlue [?\]: @wf
martin97 [-\]: take q14 for example?
critter [1k\]: all over
agakenny [?\]: w lost lots
Arcos [12k?\]: gg
aa [3d\]: s13 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b gets n16 atari
martin97 [-\]: doesnt matter see my seq
]
;B[rg]C[CBlue [?\]: w would have a stone at o16, basically what aa said i think
martin97 [-\]: res now
aa [3d\]: B still ahead by 40 points
]
;W[bd]C[anewtry [1d\]: c2 absoluyely dead right?
]
;B[ic]C[served [3d\]: yes
odnihs [-\]: ye
Warfreak2 [4d\]: looks like it would be a ko
]
;W[cg]C[Lice [6d\]: where?
odnihs [-\]: nah
aa [3d\]: w desperate
served [3d\]: bent-4
wuwei [3k\]: w is connected....
Warfreak2 [4d\]: after w n15, b o13 makes a ko
tchitchi [2d\]: i would be angry if i where eric
]
;B[cf]C[tchitchi [2d\]: were*
martin97 [-\]: bad style by now
]
;W[ch]C[aa [3d\]: w should re
aa [3d\]: resign, not reply
Kretzsche [2k?\]: lol if that was decing whether you were becoming a professional you would not resign easily either
Lice [6d\]: you all say that yet everyone on kgs keeps playing in these kind of situations
]
;B[di]C[Borachon [3k\]: ^^
aa [3d\]: this wouldn't be kgs kibitz if we didn't ask the player to resign
Arcos [12k?\]: he's doing an all or nothing gambit here
martin97 [-\]: but not in a real tournament
]
;W[ag]C[aa [3d\]: nice suji
martin97 [-\]: b14 simply
Lice [6d\]: it makes more sense to not resign in a tourny than in a friendly internet game
skwisgaar [2d\]: ppl dont count the gamge on kgs
Violence [1d\]: A14
odnihs [-\]: more like a nothing or nothing gambit
aa [3d\]: w wants to cut c10 b10 b11 
TomSwirly [6k\]: you never win by resigning.  and fighting a losing battle can improve your skill.
]
;B[af]
;W[ei]C[aa [3d\]: w hoping for a misclick
Arcos [12k?\]: lol
TomSwirly [6k\]: this is a historical replay, right?
served [3d\]: no
]
;B[bi]C[TomSwirly [6k\]: oh, it's real time!  cool.
Borachon [3k\]: live
Warfreak2 [4d\]: not just a live game, but people's careers depend on it
Quinn: this game is being played as part of a real tournament to decide the next North American professional
TomSwirly [6k\]: [deity\]!
Borachon [3k\]: oh, that's simple
skwisgaar [2d\]: w should resign right now
aa [3d\]: ben already has a good career as a mathematician
Warfreak2 [4d\]: not as glamorous as being a pro go player tho
tchitchi [2d\]: people are you serious? thoses are not 25k players, black won't make any mistake, it's no use continuing
aa [3d\]: go players can't earn nobel prizes
aa [3d\]: oh wait
Warfreak2 [4d\]: neither can mathematicians...
odnihs [-\]: /s
aa [3d\]: nash did
TomSwirly [6k\]: Hey, I''m a mathematician, and I'm super glamorous.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: he was an economist
USGO4 [-\]: Eric Lui wins by resignation
TomSwirly [6k\]: well, my degree is in math.
lance [1k\]: thanks USGO
tchitchi [2d\]: someone did aa?
Arcos [12k?\]: Wp
aa [3d\]: isn't game theory mathmatics
Warfreak2 [4d\]: tom, don't worry, i wouldn't say mathematics was less glamorous than go if i wasn't a mathematician myself
Quinn: Congratulations Eric, Well fought Ben
Warfreak2 [4d\]: there is a nobel prize for economics but not for maths
USGO4 [-\]: thanks for watching!
Quinn: Thanks for showing USGO4
aa [3d\]: thx for relaying
tchitchi [2d\]: thx!
rinkaio [1k\]: thx
Bones [2d\]: when is the next?
Kretzsche [2k?\]: wow mathmatitians play go? next thing you tell me is that informatics people play too o.O
BlackSmurf [?\]: Thx to nobel's wife!
rinkaio [1k\]: next in few hours is not it ?
Quinn: Next game is at 4:30 EST
aa [3d\]: there should be a nobel prize for maths
Warfreak2 [4d\]: there is the fields medal
Warfreak2 [4d\]: named after comedian w c fields
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's the only medal which guarantees multiplicative inverses
xedover [?\]: thanks usgo4
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