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GN[3rd AGA Pro Quals - Ricky Zhao vs Eric Lui]PW[Ricky Zhao]PB[Eric Lui]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2015-01-07]EV[3rd AGA Pro Qualification Championship]RO[Finals 1]PC[Hull, MA]US[Andrew Jackson]C[USGO2 [-\]: Hello and welcome back to the continuing coverage of the 3rd AGA Professional Qualification Tournament!
USGO2 [-\]: I'm andrew jackson, your scribe this evening
USGO2 [-\]: ten 'til game time and the room is quiet and empty save the recorders
USGO2 [-\]: This is the first round of the single-elimation knockout bracket
USGO2 [-\]: each round is a single-elimination best two-out-of-three match
USGO2 [-\]: however, the score in each 2 out of 3 is already 1-0, with the first result coming from the round-robin games
Shinichi56 [-\]: can ricky be pro?
xedover [?\]: he's gotta win 'em all now
USGO2 [-\]: e.g., Eric defeated Ricky in round 6, so the score is 1-0 in Eric's favor; Ricky needs to win two in a row to progress
Shinichi56 [-\]: okay thanks, that would be awesome
Brian [1d\]: long tournament :-)
USGO2 [-\]: yes, yes it is
USGO2 [-\]: should we get a dark horse like that we could be a long way from the finals
gosei [1d\]: im eric fan:)
USGO2 [-\]: i'm not allowed to be a fan, nor feel human emotions
USGO2 [-\]: but i do hope both players win!
USGO2 [-\]: we are verifying the clocks
USGO2 [-\]: and we're off
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]
;B[pp]
;W[dp]
;B[ce]
;W[ci]
;B[ge]C[USGO2 [-\]: eric is a centimeter from playing E16, then stops, throws it back in the bowl, and brings out G15
USGO2 [-\]: G15 is a new one on me
Brian [1d\]: i read about G15 before, but i don't understand it
Benzene [3d\]: g15 is showing off
spacetime [4d\]: what a boss
Brian [1d\]: it was in a pro game at least in 2010
Brian [1d\]: i don't know if it's this situation, though
hobajons [-\]: r00d
RainierBob [?\]: must be fairly recent. SmartGo library has no matching postions for left side
hobajons [-\]: ricky will iwn
humblelife [-\]: is the whole bracked known at this time?
Brian [1d\]: it's in a 2010 issue of a go magazine i have
humblelife [-\]: bractek*
served [3d\]: ps.waltheri.net has 6 games with this position
USGO2 [-\]: yes, the bracket and results is at http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014#results
Horse [8k\]: g15 is not a misclick ?
USGO2 [-\]: no sir and/or madam
spacetime [4d\]: how you you copy a url into kgs chat window?
Brian [1d\]: did black win, served?
Horse [8k\]: never seen before
humblelife [-\]: cntrl + v
spacetime [4d\]: never worked for me
USGO2 [-\]: spacetime, if you're on a mac, you have to actually use ctrl -- cmd will not work
xedover [?\]: using a mac?
xedover [?\]: right
]
;W[fc]C[spacetime [4d\]: Ah ok control, got it
Brian [1d\]: Hashimoto Utaro played G15 against go seigen in 1928, i guess
Brian [1d\]: go seigen played f15 in response
USGO2 [-\]: Brian, got a link?
psygo [3k\]: how did you find that out, brian?
Brian [1d\]: sure, 1 sec
psygo [3k\]: is it a program you type the position or you have it from memory?
Brian [1d\]: if you have a gobase account, http://gobase.org/repository/bin/rep-uncgi/rep-search?analyse_id=182&query_id=4452
psygo [3k\]: oh thx
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;B[cc]C[Brian [1d\]: some other pros played G17, i guess
humblelife [-\]: i don't see a good move for w...
]
;W[cb]C[psygo [3k\]: can g15 be used with other tighter pincers?
Brian [1d\]: if you don't have gobase account, here's the go seigen game...  i won't upload the others, though: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufzcwfzb4amv5tm/go012.sgf?dl=0
USGO2 [-\]: eric reaches for g17 and reconsiders it
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;B[dd]C[USGO2 [-\]: thanks Brian!
Horse [8k\]: b17 i suppose
psygo [3k\]: thx brian
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;W[bc]
;B[ec]
;W[cd]C[Brian [1d\]: sure.  either way, it looks like eric has a special strategy here
]
;B[db]
;W[cc]
;B[ed]
;W[eb]
;B[fb]
;W[da]
;B[gc]C[seig [?\]: can't figure out how to provide a link to the actual pattern, but a few games pop up here ps.waltheri.net
Horse [8k\]: that was fast
USGO2 [-\]: g15 ended up in a good spot
Horse [8k\]: is the result even ?
motorgo [1d\]: but w has d15 cut
Brian [1d\]: as it was white's corner to begin with, i don't mind it for black that much
flatwhite [5k?\]: is g15 good?
motorgo [1d\]: true but potential profit for later
spacetime [4d\]: good result for B imo. influence toward the top side is ideal
spacetime [4d\]: oh, D15 cut tho...
spacetime [4d\]: in that case not sure
Horse [8k\]: p17 or p16 now ?
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;W[de]C[psygo [3k\]: isnt this cut too soon?
]
;B[ee]
;W[df]C[flatwhite [5k?\]: it seems sente
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;B[oc]C[psygo [3k\]: huge wall for black though
killmejk [4k\]: q10
Brian [1d\]: white got a lot of territory, too...  i don't know who i prefer
Brian [1d\]: i'd be stressed as white, and stressed as black.
hobajons [-\]: r10
Horse [8k\]: white has all his stones on the left
spacetime [4d\]: white will play r10
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;W[qj]C[USGO2 [-\]: take a bow
hobajons [-\]: k
Horse [8k\]: *bows
]
;B[qh]
;W[qn]C[Brian [1d\]: 1/300th of the way to pro qualifier strength
hobajons [-\]: what
spacetime [4d\]: :)
hobajons [-\]: next year i will be in it
hobajons [-\]: dont even worry
hobajons [-\]: xD
]
;B[mq]C[hobajons [-\]: i would go o16
flatwhite [5k?\]: l3
hobajons [-\]: there is a hole at r8
killmejk [4k\]: l3 is not possible
hobajons [-\]: but i dont hthink he the time to fill that
hobajons [-\]: but q8 is an option
killmejk [4k\]: r4 is too small?
hobajons [-\]: well
hobajons [-\]: if u r4
hobajons [-\]: w will r8
hobajons [-\]: and althought u get the corner r10 will be stranded
hobajons [-\]: so thats no good
]
;W[oj]
;B[ql]C[psygo [3k\]: it is on
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;W[rl]
;B[rp]C[Brian [1d\]: eric has interesting style
]
;W[oh]
;B[cn]
;W[co]
;B[dn]
;W[fq]C[hobajons [-\]: i like w
hobajons [-\]: p12 is a nice placement
hobajons [-\]: b has no more potential in the top
hobajons [-\]: and w has lots of territory
]
;B[ck]C[killmejk [4k\]: j3?
spacetime [4d\]: S4 seemed too slow, P12 looks bigger
]
;W[dh]C[CieCie [2d?\]: s4 some of the corner.. lol
hobajons [-\]: ye
hobajons [-\]: s4 is slow
hobajons [-\]: but its a nice corner
hobajons [-\]: but p12 hurts
oonicks [?\]: i think just invade the top is better than p12
chea7er [9d?\]: hi hobajons
]
;B[ni]C[spacetime [4d\]: who's your 9d? friend?
killmejk [4k\]: cheating 9d
hobajons [-\]: hi bb
hobajons [-\]: idk who this is lol
chea7er [9d?\]: we played before
chea7er [9d?\]: but I was 4d when we played
hobajons [-\]: o
ofbusy [3d\]: i dont get o11
hobajons [-\]: but u are still 4d
hobajons [-\]: ?
chea7er [9d?\]: im 9d now. really 7d
killmejk [4k\]: im a snowman
hobajons [-\]: but you only play bots xD
chea7er [9d?\]: im really 7d level, but sometimes i win 9d
chea7er [9d?\]: xD
chea7er [9d?\]: you play bots too
chea7er [9d?\]: ^^
killmejk [4k\]: lost to a 5d and a 3d in even games
killmejk [4k\]: ....
killmejk [4k\]: i melt when its hot out
xcaa: envy is so spread
hobajons [-\]: lmao
psygo [3k\]: yeah
hobajons [-\]: fakes will be fakes
killmejk [4k\]: no im a real snowman
USGO2 [-\]: says the [-\]
hobajons [-\]: i just come here to watch go
hobajons [-\]: im not boasting about rank
Horse [8k\]: q11 possible ?
USGO2 [-\]: true story hoba, retracted
hobajons [-\]: o thx friend
chea7er [9d?\]: true, but hoba, you play bots too though
hobajons [-\]: but i dont have a rank...
USGO2 [-\]: although it would be nice to see you here next year
hobajons [-\]: ya it would be
USGO2 [-\]: you were boasting about that :P
chea7er [9d?\]: you used to play ranked with bots ^^ im just telling the truth
hobajons [-\]: then i wouldnt have to go to school for a week
hobajons [-\]: if i get to go to china
hobajons [-\]: i will be here next year
USGO2 [-\]: to study?
hobajons [-\]: ya
USGO2 [-\]: who with?
USGO2 [-\]: (also, someone tell me b's plan with O11 plz)
hobajons [-\]: i go to the pro school
hobajons [-\]: i went there two years ago
hobajons [-\]: 3 of the 4 roomates i had went pro
hobajons [-\]: #proud
Brian [1d\]: "the" pro school?
killmejk [4k\]: <3
hobajons [-\]: o 11 is interesting
]
;W[oi]C[oonicks [?\]: for now o11 cost w lots of time
hobajons [-\]: its more of a prob
hobajons [-\]: then anything
]
;B[ep]C[USGO2 [-\]: ...looks like ladder-maker now
hobajons [-\]: could be
ofbusy [3d\]: maybe a timesuji
ofbusy [3d\]: more ladder thing ok
psygo [3k\]: puzzle your opponent and drain his time
chea7er [9d?\]: is that why your name is psy go?
chea7er [9d?\]: psy as in psychological warfare?
psygo [3k\]: i sometimes use it but that was not the intention
]
;W[eq]
;B[cq]C[psygo [3k\]: i like your meaning better than the original
psygo [3k\]: lol
Brian [1d\]: this one always makes my head hurt
spacetime [4d\]: same
psygo [3k\]: i was just hearing a lot of psy trance at the time
oonicks [?\]: c4  think. meanwhile ryan li is playing his usual clean game, very unimpressed by his opponent
]
;W[do]C[Brian [1d\]: how do you know he is unimpressed?
]
;B[bo]C[oonicks [?\]: q10
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;W[bp]
;B[bn]
;W[bq]
;B[eo]
;W[dq]
;B[ld]C[USGO2 [-\]: Ricky has been frowning at the right side for a while here
spacetime [4d\]: s16 magic?
USGO2 [-\]: he clicked at M16 and then when back to frowning at the area around R12
]
;W[qe]
;B[pe]
;W[qf]
;B[rd]C[RainierBob [?\]: clicked?
]
;W[pf]C[USGO2 [-\]: like a "tsk" noise
spacetime [4d\]: the sound of uneasiness
RainierBob [?\]: not like a mouse
killmejk [4k\]: yes he brought his mouse
USGO2 [-\]: i do that around here
]
;B[oe]C[USGO2 [-\]: hovering on p15 before playing it
Brian [1d\]: white has around 60 points it feels like, and black maybe slightly more than that, by my count
Brian [1d\]: though, there's the cut around e6 still, and it's hard for me to judge potential
ofbusy [3d\]: w s territory more solid obviously
Brian [1d\]: true
psygo [3k\]: but there is aji in w's territory
psygo [3k\]: isn there?
Brian [1d\]: the left side seems pretty strong for white
USGO2 [-\]: Brian i am counting w much more conservatively
USGO2 [-\]: maybe only barely 50
Brian [1d\]: maybe true.  i included komi, but sometimes i count generously
USGO2 [-\]: b a little over 60, though, agree
Brian [1d\]: maybe i counted generously around r8 area
Lsugyen [7d\]: probably
Lsugyen [7d\]: how much did you consider?
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;W[re]C[Lsugyen [7d\]: !!
USGO2 [-\]: wow, ok, now we can count that more generously
Lsugyen [7d\]: what was w doing
ofbusy [3d\]: didnt expect that one
Lsugyen [7d\]: p14 is painful
USGO2 [-\]: i'm shocked too
USGO2 [-\]: eric sits forward to look
Lsugyen [7d\]: and b has s7 in reserve too
Brian [1d\]: at that point, around 18 points on the right
Brian [1d\]: maybe that was too much
indianayk [5d?\]: s15 was strange at best
ofbusy [3d\]: protects from s13 i guess
]
;B[rk]C[cheerup: w plays yose now
Brian [1d\]: i guess this is why i couldn't count the right as 18 points
Lsugyen [7d\]: I think b should have played p14 as a testing move
spacetime [4d\]: s9 renders s15 silly
]
;W[qk]
;B[rm]
;W[rj]C[Brian [1d\]: s15 was surprising
tupelo [-\]: üßppppppppppppppp
psygo [3k\]: i agree, tupelo
tupelo [-\]: my cat comments ...
Brian [1d\]: maybe he is considering tenuki
USGO2 [-\]: he is scanning everywhere: as HKA says, b is always counting
]
;B[qm]C[spacetime [4d\]: maybe 60 points poth sides, but B with more potential
psygo [3k\]: could someone explain to me if e14 is a dumb move?
]
;W[hd]C[psygo [3k\]: for b
spacetime [4d\]: yea i think it doesnt do anything for either side
spacetime [4d\]: white responds at e13, and b hasn't gained much. if he continues at f13, white hanes at f12, then takes sente
]
;B[ic]C[oonicks [?\]: "don't force your opponent into good shape "
psygo [3k\]: it was dum then
oonicks [?\]: there must be a lot of worse moves
Brian [1d\]: hm
Brian [1d\]: interesting
]
;W[kq]
;B[gn]
;W[mr]C[psygo [3k\]: how is the time, andrew?
USGO2 [-\]: black has 60min, w 40
]
;B[nr]
;W[lr]
;B[np]C[USGO2 [-\]: Ricky leans back to consider everything
USGO2 [-\]: eric steps away
]
;W[ip]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: g4 automatic now?
]
;B[of]C[oonicks [?\]: b can make points in 4 places 
ofbusy [3d\]: i guess b wants to extand top now
]
;W[og]C[ofbusy [3d\]: with n13
]
;B[se]
;W[sf]
;B[sd]C[Brian [1d\]: since he played s15 earlier, surely he'll defend, right? :-)
USGO2 [-\]: he really, really doesn't look like he wants to
]
;W[rg]C[ofbusy [3d\]: well he did ;p
]
;B[mg]
;W[kf]
;B[kh]C[ofbusy [3d\]: l14 was deep... l13 more reasonable at first view
]
;W[ig]
;B[ii]
;W[gd]
;B[fd]
;W[id]
;B[jc]
;W[ff]C[ofbusy [3d\]: this one is fancy...
]
;B[gf]
;W[gg]
;B[gp]C[USGO2 [-\]: b hovers over g4 and ricky sits up and switches to looking at the far side of the board
]
;W[gq]
;B[nl]C[Brian [1d\]: i like this move
]
;W[ef]C[killmejk [4k\]: great move
]
;B[hc]
;W[fe]
;B[fc]C[killmejk [4k\]: first b2 bomber!
Brian [1d\]: i don't get it.  was it really that bad to connect at f15?  why h17?
ofbusy [3d\]: i m thinking about a ko @f19 but not sure the liberties match
Brian [1d\]: i think black survived...  but maybe j15 is a threat now?
Brian [1d\]: so b can get sente?
USGO2 [-\]: b wants sente i think; if w has to K16...
oonicks [?\]: triple sente and still aji on h16?
USGO2 [-\]: ricky is staring hard at the middle of the board
USGO2 [-\]: around L8 area
ofbusy [3d\]: hm its because of b k15 i think
pro5k [1k\]: how can i see tournaments standings?
USGO2 [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014#results
pro5k [1k\]: thx so much
]
;W[dk]
;B[bj]
;W[bi]C[Brian [1d\]: i think J15 works, unless i missed a variation.  j15 k16 k15 l16 l15 l17 h15 m17 n17 m15 n16 n18 m19 m18 o18 l19 o19 n19 k18 
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;B[hp]C[hobajons [-\]: go ricky!
]
;W[iq]
;B[je]C[ofbusy [3d\]: yeah j15 works imo too well b plays this one...
]
;W[kg]
;B[ie]C[Timk [1d\]: b prefers cash in pocket
cheerup: time left?
]
;W[cl]
;B[bl]
;W[cj]
;B[bk]C[ofbusy [3d\]: b has more cash, more center potential i would be surprise if he lets this one go
USGO2 [-\]: w 11:00 b 34:00
cheerup: thx
]
;W[jh]
;B[ji]
;W[ki]
;B[kj]
;W[lh]
;B[lj]
;W[hj]C[USGO2 [-\]: w crosses 5 minutes
USGO2 [-\]: the ing clock seems to wake him up to play h10
]
;B[hi]C[USGO2 [-\]: now 1:00 left basic  time
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;W[gj]
;B[gi]C[USGO2 [-\]: 5/40
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;W[fi]
;B[ko]C[USGO2 [-\]: 4x40
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;W[ns]
;B[os]C[USGO2 [-\]: 3x40
USGO2 [-\]: white has resigned
ofbusy [3d\]: ok thx
USGO2 [-\]: thanks for watching!
Kretzsche [2k?\]: thanks to the scribe
cheerup: thanks
rs2 [11k\]: Thanks Andrew Jackson (USGO2)!
USGO2 [-\]: b suggests w push at H17 before cutting at F15
anewtry [1d\]: thx
Brian [1d\]: good game
Brian [1d\]: thanks
anewtry [1d\]: so eric semifinalist?
Brian [1d\]: it's round robin, right?
anewtry [1d\]: no
sedgwick [5d?\]: Round robin section finished this morning
Brian [1d\]: oh yeah
Brian [1d\]: sorry
USGO2 [-\]: this 2-of-3 is decided; eric advances 2-0 over ricky
anewtry [1d\]: ty
USGO2 [-\]: also discussing if cut at D15 was premature
USGO2 [-\]: now rolling back to that joseki in upper left
USGO2 [-\]: D12 suggested at E11 as well
USGO2 [-\]: S15 getting some scrutiny as well
USGO2 [-\]: analyses seems that R15 would be better at R14
USGO2 [-\]: eric doesn't like g6, maybe too slow
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