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RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[US Pro Qualification Championship Round 1 Board 1]PW[Ryan Li ]PB[Matthew Burrall]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2015-01-07]EV[US Pro Qualification Championship Round 1 Board 1]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Garlock]C[Javaness [2d\]: Will they start shortly?
USGO2 [-\]: one minute
alias [6k\]: is it the semi?
alias [6k\]: or which game is it?
USGO1 [-\]: hi this is chris garlock
USGO1 [-\]: welcome!
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;B[pd]
;W[dp]C[USGO1 [-\]: this is the first round of the championship round
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;B[qp]
;W[dc]C[USGO1 [-\]: latest results here: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014#results
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;B[nq]C[nadoss [6k\]: I thought the final was Lui vs Li
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;W[nc]C[spacetime [4d\]: this is not the final, it's round one of the knockout stage
spacetime [4d\]: the final will likely be lui v li
USGO1 [-\]: that was the final of the round robin stage
U [?\]: best of 3, because of round robin result, ryan just needs to win once to advance, matt needs to win twice
nadoss [6k\]: ohhhhh, that's awesome I didn't know there was a knockout stage
Lice [5d\]: will ryan only need one win in the semis aswell?
nadoss [6k\]: this tournament is awesome. Why don't other sports do cool complex tourneys :)
zampa [3k\]: its a very stacked tournament.
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;B[pf]C[U [?\]: ryan did go 7-0 in the round robin so id assume he will have this advantage in every matchup
nadoss [6k\]: it's just the top four that get to this stage?
Evanthya [10k\]: well it looks like any other usa tourney to me
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;W[jd]C[gemp [6d\]: ryan Li will be pro soon :)
USGO1 [-\]: all 8 players play in this stage as well
USGO1 [-\]: our prelim report from this morning is here: http://www.usgo.org/news/2015/01/ryan-li-bests-eric-lui-in-aga-pro-round-robin-championship-begins/
zampa [3k\]: at what day will the finals be played?
nadoss [6k\]: so the winner of this match plays the winner of board 4 and then the same for boards 2 and 3 and then there are only 2 left, right?
hobajons [-\]: ricky will go por
CieCie [2d?\]: So does the adv, in the bo3 , for every round?
hobajons [-\]: dont worry
Lice [5d\]: d14 any day
U [?\]: the winner of this matchup will play the winner of the jeremy chiu v yuan zhou matchup. jeremy has the 1 game advantage in that one
gemp [6d\]: go crazywind
CieCie [2d?\]: so Matt has to win twice to advance right?
nadoss [6k\]: I wish more people were as excited by tournament fomatting subtleties as I am
U [?\]: yes matt has to win twice, ryan once
nadoss [6k\]: I didn't think Burrall did so poor in round robin to deserve running up against Li in the first round. I guess it's just a drawing?
U [?\]: matt went 1-6 in round robin, only win being by 1.5 over daniel
nadoss [6k\]: oh well i stand corrected
nadoss [6k\]: :)
CieCie [2d?\]: ooo matt has to in alot of games
Javaness [2d\]: C14 please
nadoss [6k\]: such a cool format!
CieCie [2d?\]: I see why they made RR lol
gemp [6d\]: what about Bill Lin?
CieCie [2d?\]: he's not in this one
nadoss [6k\]: I guess it's good, if they're only crowning one pro it's best if they make sure it's the right guy
gemp [6d\]: right should be good like Andy Liu
CaesarJMD [-\]: do Ryan Li and Eric Lui play on KGS? What are their nicknames?
Lead210 [2k\]: US have their own pros? Like Japan or Korea?
gemp [6d\]: asian poeple dominite the go world everywhere
Lice [5d\]: what does andy liu do as a proffesional now?
Dyabete [3k?\]: aga pro yes
U [?\]: ryan li is crazywind
gemp [6d\]: Andy Liu seems to be a college student
CieCie [2d?\]: Yes Lead, you can find out more info at usgo.org
Lice [5d\]: what does being an aga pro mean then?
nadoss [6k\]: 1 pro a year right?
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;B[cf]C[humblelife [-\]: is the whole bracket known at this time? who will play the winner of the ben lockhart game?
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;W[de]C[CieCie [2d?\]: Chance to compete in pro tournaments Lice
Lice [5d\]: they can't win asian pros..
USGO1 [-\]: Brackets here http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2014#results
nadoss [6k\]: humble, i think 1plays4 2plays3
humblelife [-\]: thanks
gemp [6d\]: pros get much higher instruction fee
U [?\]: and more opportunities in asia
nadoss [6k\]: oh my god the tournament ranks every competitor into positions...
nadoss [6k\]: That's so exciting
gemp [6d\]: and they can compete in pro tournaments, especially the international ones
nadoss [6k\]: and once again I'm the only person geeking out about tournament formats...
CaesarJMD [-\]: are Go pros payed by their association (aga/nihon kiin/...)? is it know how much that is?
Stanfield [8k\]: Im with you, just more silently so
served [3d\]: american pros get a travel stipend, but that's it, I think
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;W[ch]
;B[df]
;W[ce]C[USGO2 [-\]: i'm glad someone likes it nadoss!  :D
Lice [5d\]: sente too importent
Stanfield [8k\]: yeah, what's the benefit of being pro, other than bragging rights?
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;B[be]C[Lice [5d\]: hard to get with c14
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;W[cc]C[Dyabete [3k?\]: it's joseki taht ?
Muttley [2k\]: interesting fuseki, let's see who tries to mix it up first
Ootakamoku [2d\]: yes
Lice [5d\]: easier with d14
Ootakamoku [2d\]: its joseki
Brian [1d\]: this is joseki so far
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;B[bg]C[Brian [1d\]: standard kobayashi
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;W[ei]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: e11 I havent seen before
USGO2 [-\]: Ryan played it yesterday IIRC
served [3d\]: I think Ryan played it in an earlier round too
gemp [6d\]: being a pro is more an honor, and able to fully focus on go, either teaching or competing
Stanfield [8k\]: how is standard and kobayashi in the same sentence a thing?
Dyabete [3k?\]: oh yes i remenber 
USGO2 [-\]: no, Gourdeau did
Stanfield [8k\]: but you can't compete if you're pro
Muttley [2k\]: because it is a fuseki Stanfield, popularised by Kobayashi Koichi
Muttley [2k\]: black's approach at c14 is standard
Lice [5d\]: you can't say that..
Ootakamoku [2d\]: c14 is by far the most common choice from pro games
Lice [5d\]: with a black kobayashi mabye
Ootakamoku [2d\]: yes
gemp [6d\]: e11 is misclick?
xcaa: second choice is pass
Lice [5d\]: have you checked it with a white kobayashi and a very uregent black side?
Stanfield [8k\]: E12?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: true, sente is very valuable
CieCie [2d?\]: blacks side is urgent?
Muttley [2k\]: what on earth is an "urgent black side"?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: tho I cant imagine b playing tenuki
Muttley [2k\]: white or black, c14 is the spot
xcaa: it's like ER muttley
Genghis [2k\]: I like how Star Trek always gets mentioned in Go kibitz
Ootakamoku [2d\]: q14 is high stone, and o3 develops influence, hence right side sort of big
Stanfield [8k\]: Engage at warp factor 6
Muttley [2k\]: yeah, I think you're right.  Nurse, I want an IV in the top at M17 NOW!
xcaa: "I got a broken spleen and a urgent black side at theatre n°1"
Stanfield [8k\]: Tea, Earl Grey, hot
Stanfield [8k\]: we have engaged the Borg, etc
Muttley [2k\]: I bet Ryan prepared this for the tournament
Ootakamoku [2d\]: e14 or f14 normal I guess, but for some weird reason I would want to play f15
xcaa: I would go for f16, for weirder reasons
Muttley [2k\]: I would play b12 because you have to make the second line moyo here
Stanfield [8k\]: weird as in you want to lose?
CieCie [2d?\]: by prepared do you mean sat in a dark room with  glowing goban and coffee?
xedover [?\]: I like it too, nadoss
Muttley [2k\]: though c10 has no merits as well
gemp [6d\]: f14 is normal
tchitchi [2d\]: e14 is referenced as joseki
Stanfield [8k\]: F13 is a thought
gemp [6d\]: b has c11 next if w plays g16
xcaa: f16 is where the fun start, believe me
gemp [6d\]: c11 is the weakness of this shape
Muttley [2k\]: I was wondering whether c11 was the move also
Muttley [2k\]: thanks gemp
Ootakamoku [2d\]: gemp, but b will already be quite secure after jump out, dont c11 give w forcing moves to build thickness?
gemp [6d\]: never saw this, not sure
gemp [6d\]: right but b has to settle himself first
sedgwick [5d?\]: I've seen this, remember there were some tricky variations with a ladder, but can't remember what they are now :)
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;B[ff]C[Dyabete [3k?\]: E14 seems ...
sedgwick [5d?\]: Lets hope Mathew has better memory/reading :)
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;W[ef]C[CieCie [2d?\]: lol
Stanfield [8k\]: E14 looks fine
Stanfield [8k\]: if anything, too standard
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;W[ee]C[CieCie [2d?\]: "too standard"
sedgwick [5d?\]: I think f14 is not good for b...
sedgwick [5d?\]: for w I mean
CieCie [2d?\]: that too standard wins pros games..
hobajons [-\]: this is kinda bad for b
Lice [5d\]: no pro ever played e14
sedgwick [5d?\]: sigh, for b...
Dyabete [3k?\]: rigth
Stanfield [8k\]: sorry I eant f
Stanfield [8k\]: meant*
CieCie [2d?\]: prove it :D
Stanfield [8k\]: F14
Lice [5d\]: are you referring to me?
spacetime [4d\]: how should B respond to E11?
gemp [6d\]: why bad for b?
Lice [5d\]: b responded alright
hobajons [-\]: it hurts
hobajons [-\]: where will u go next as b
Stanfield [8k\]: F12 ^_^
hobajons [-\]: then i cut
anewtry [1d\]: -d12
hobajons [-\]: d12 i will f13
xcaa: f13
CieCie [2d?\]: 3 games where e14 have been played
Stanfield [8k\]: I meant F13
CieCie [2d?\]: in 2005
hobajons [-\]: if b f13
Lice [5d\]: pro games?
hobajons [-\]: w will just cut d13
CieCie [2d?\]: yes
Lice [5d\]: with k16 also?
gemp [6d\]: f13
anewtry [1d\]: its okay for b i tihnk
CieCie [2d?\]: .....
hobajons [-\]: f13 is bad
Stanfield [8k\]: then black C11?
Dyabete [3k?\]: D12...F12 cut in two play E12 non ?
Muttley [2k\]: d12 f13 j16
CieCie [2d?\]:  on ps.waltheri.net there are pro games that show it has been played
anewtry [1d\]: d12 f13 d11
Lice [5d\]: im on ps aswell..
Lice [5d\]: and not a single game with e14
Stanfield [8k\]: E14 was a typo here
Muttley [2k\]: maybe j16 is bad if w responds k15?
Lice [5d\]: muttley noone is concenred about the ladder
Lice [5d\]: j16 pointless
Muttley [2k\]: awww :(
Muttley [2k\]: its not the ladder, is preparing to waste the top using the f14 stone's aji
Muttley [2k\]: but it may well be random aji keshi
Dyabete [3k?\]: black used many time ?
anewtry [1d\]: j16 is pointless also for me because m17 still open
CieCie [2d?\]: ... I'm talking about the shape a pro literally didnt have to be black and play agianst a white kobeyashi... Anyways d12 is sente no>
sedgwick [5d?\]: yes d12 sente, but very painful for black to play, w very pleased to get d11..
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;W[di]
;B[fg]
;W[gd]C[xcaa: success for w
Lead210 [2k\]: look like b created himself trouble
humblelife [-\]: thanks sedgwick
Lead210 [2k\]: it will be interesting game
Lead210 [2k\]: USGO, how much time does B have?
Muttley [2k\]: I prefer w, where's black's cash
gemp [6d\]: I prefer b
Tollpatsch [1k\]: well black got sente
Tollpatsch [1k\]: and d11 isn't a fixed shape yet
anewtry [1d\]: d11 weak group now
nadoss [6k\]: B C6?
USGO1 [-\]: b 1:27, w 56
humblelife [-\]: d11 looks light to me
CieCie [2d?\]: Will the finals be 90m each too?
USGO1 [-\]: i believe so, yes
anewtry [1d\]: c6 too far for attacking d11
CieCie [2d?\]: thank you
nadoss [6k\]: wait there's no way black still has 1:27 he's been taking a ton of time, right?
Dyabete [3k?\]: Yes is maybe the opposite
Esquisse [8d\]: if w gets b12 or c11 it will be troubles for b
CieCie [2d?\]: Why does black have to attack d11
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: use 3 minutes for 26 moves?
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;B[fq]C[anewtry [1d\]: 13 moves
U [?\]: that seems backwards, usually w is the fast player and b is slow player
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;W[cn]C[Dyabete [3k?\]: white play fast 
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: maybe has 27 minutes left?
CieCie [2d?\]: The man knows what he wants to play.
Lice [5d\]: f3 seems so wrong
CieCie [2d?\]: c6 would have been worse Lice
Esquisse [8d\]: nope
anewtry [1d\]: why f3 wrong?
Esquisse [8d\]: b had to come in d8 or c6 for sure
Esquisse [8d\]: but anyway you can play what ever you want in fuseki
nadoss [6k\]: yeahhhh
CieCie [2d?\]: I completely disagree but w/e
Lice [5d\]: you can play what ever you want at any part of the game
Esquisse [8d\]: not really
Esquisse [8d\]: yose is quite mathematical
anewtry [1d\]: j4 now
Esquisse [8d\]: and chuban is too complex
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;B[fo]C[VeryBlue [5d\]: yet you can play what you want
Lice [5d\]: you can, noone stops you
spacetime [4d\]: matt always goes for moyo
Javaness [2d\]: overplayous
Esquisse [8d\]: I meant, you can play what ever you want and it will still be good :)
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;W[dr]C[Lice [5d\]: that's just silly then
VeryBlue [5d\]: well fuseki is mathmetics too because you lose
VeryBlue [5d\]: mathematically ofc
apina [1d\]: in fuseki, more matter of style, of course there are also bad moves
xcaa: like f14
dinosaur [1k\]: Wherever you play in fuseki it's good for someone
CieCie [2d?\]: Black should play k9
CieCie [2d?\]: Make this interesting
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: most 16k play like 9d for first few moves
anewtry [1d\]: i hope to see a third game so supporting matt
hobajons [-\]: b will probs e2 knowing matt
hobajons [-\]: or n15
Esquisse [8d\]: q11 would be the proper way to develop i guess
Lice [5d\]: what about n12?
Esquisse [8d\]: it sux
VeryBlue [5d\]: haha
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: n12 quite optimistic
gemp [6d\]: Esquissse seriously why help KingJulien become 9d? please beat him
hobajons [-\]: lol
hobajons [-\]: xD
hobajons [-\]: b will n15
Esquisse [8d\]: i can't
gemp [6d\]: you can
anewtry [1d\]: i like n15
VeryBlue [5d\]: you can do whatever you want
Javaness [2d\]: time for a monte carlo move now
Esquisse [8d\]: i have the flu
Esquisse [8d\]: that's why i'm all day long on kgs haha
gemp [6d\]: get well soon
Esquisse [8d\]: thx i hope so
anewtry [1d\]: go is hard with a flu headache
indianayk [5d?\]: monte carlo move, javaness?
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: random
spacetime [4d\]: if i've learned anything from watching this tournaent, Matt will play N15 :)
Lead210 [2k\]: It seems that B is not stressed enough, so he decided to make it all the way to byo-yomi
anewtry [1d\]: its the matts last shot so no wonder he plays slow
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;B[gi]C[spacetime [4d\]: hum
Dyabete [3k?\]:  Not N15
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;W[qk]C[Lice [5d\]: oucha
critter [1k\]: if i learned anything  b would play g11
Esquisse [8d\]: g11 is a good idea
spacetime [4d\]: R11, and if w r6, maybe b presses with Q8?
oonicks [?\]: this position i think w will win
anewtry [1d\]: b is still good, he will be pressuring that stone
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;B[cl]C[LEIBNIZ [2k\]: b has fighting spirit
Prime [-\]: wait
Prime [-\]: is this the championship bracket
anewtry [1d\]: yes
Prime [-\]: oh man
Prime [-\]: #hype
VeryBlue [5d\]: dont try to make go sound fun
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;W[gp]C[Lead210 [2k\]: wow... c8 looks very cool
franks [13k\]: it looks kind of rash after g4
VeryBlue [5d\]: e7 next
VeryBlue [5d\]: (for w)
Herod [-\]: c8 the kind of move my teacher scolds me for making
Lice [5d\]: you lookin for a new teacher?
Herod [-\]: No
nadoss [6k\]: I can never internalize the timing for M17 type invasions
Lice [5d\]: just play f4 come on
Tollpatsch [1k\]: c5 would be possible, too
Dyabete [3k?\]: why w play G4 that is the thing of b
Tollpatsch [1k\]: er d5
rs2 [11k\]: This is when video of the players would be great - to see where they seem to be looking...
VeryBlue [5d\]: d5 is unreasonable
spacetime [4d\]: yea, some day they'l be a 21st century go server with live video feeds
VeryBlue [5d\]: doesnt get you sente
rs2 [11k\]: Even the audio feed earlier with commentary was pretty awesome, I thought - ahhh tech!
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;B[bn]C[franks [13k\]: maybe white is trying to attack too and trying to destroy black's base
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;W[co]C[USGO1 [-\]: well, ryan got up a got some water and checked out the other games
USGO1 [-\]: matt's just been reading out variation pretty intensely
rs2 [11k\]: I never would have guessed he was looking at a different board - it's been a while since I played in person...
whuang [4d\]: intense reading
Lice [5d\]: this trade only makes sense if b's gonna ignore now isn't it?
darkronin [3k\]: Ryan is finally white?
bert [2d?\]: f4 i guess
franks [13k\]: if black tries to disconnect the c5 and d11 group can white go underneath black and live?
franks [13k\]: or will white have to jump out
Lice [5d\]: if b plays f4 now this trade is so good for w
nadoss [6k\]: USGO1 they still nigiri in this round or is it set in some way?
USGO1 [-\]: no nigiri; colors are set. they're the reverse of what they were the last time the players played
nadoss [6k\]: ah ok
hobajons [-\]: whoah
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;B[cq]C[U [?\]: i guess ben will be black for the rest of the tournament
VeryBlue [5d\]: ._.
spacetime [4d\]: matt is on tilt
Prime [-\]: oh bessy
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;W[fp]C[Muttley [2k\]: here comes the fun
Lice [5d\]: nah its over
redreoicy [3d\]: this looks good for w already
redreoicy [3d\]: b cant get e3 and d3
Lice [5d\]: i go to sleep good night
franks [13k\]: good night
hobajons [-\]: night
franks [13k\]: ?
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;B[bo]C[killmejk [4k\]: opposite order then i would have guessed
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;W[eq]
;B[cm]
;W[lq]C[VeryBlue [5d\]: this is actually satisfactory for b
ponno [-\]: is c4 sente?
CieCie [2d?\]: wonder if Ryan will go 10-0
Prime [-\]: i would not be surprised
spacetime [4d\]: F9 for black?
redreoicy [3d\]: could also go 11-0 
Leonidas [2k\]: 10-0 would leave no doubt about who is pro
CieCie [2d?\]: i forgot to count this gzame lol
G361 [?\]: Salut. ^^
U [?\]: is the final best of 5?
anewtry [1d\]: ok3
anewtry [1d\]: best of 3
CieCie [2d?\]: it is but ryan only need to win twice
hobajons [-\]: no bo3 i thought
CieCie [2d?\]: no final is bo5
hobajons [-\]: o really cool
redreoicy [3d\]: its 5 or 3 depending on remaining time
CieCie [2d?\]: ah
Bloodmaid [7d\]: looks like different game 10 moves or so ago, wow
anewtry [1d\]: this stage not bo3?
CieCie [2d?\]: i would hope so
CieCie [2d?\]: it is
nadoss [6k\]: are they also doing the quarters today?
anewtry [1d\]: 2 games per day
nadoss [6k\]: oh, so maybe
Lead210 [2k\]: how much time does B have?\\
CieCie [2d?\]: however Ryan already has 1 win over matt (RR carries over) so all he has to do is win one more
anewtry [1d\]: fino more games today
U [?\]: the winner of each matchup gets the win carried into this. so in this case ryan beat matt in rr, so ryan just has to win once while matt has to win twice to move on
killmejk [4k\]: matt isnt out of this game yet
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;B[lc]C[spacetime [4d\]: idk about this...
U [?\]: ryan went 7-0 so he will have the 1 game advantage thru whole tournament
zampa [3k\]: what suprises me is the spare time everyone seem to have, don't they all have to work and such?
zampa [3k\]: a tournament spanning like 10 days is a lot.
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;W[qc]C[Lsugyen [7d\]: b seems not bad
gemp [6d\]: they are mostly under 20 I guess
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;B[pc]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]C[spacetime [4d\]: they're mostly all in college so they have break
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;W[qb]
;B[nb]C[ilovetora [-\]: Well Ryan is missing school right now
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;W[re]C[anewtry [1d\]: what about final exams?
nadoss [6k\]: and it's not like they're doing this many times a year
killmejk [4k\]: final exams ended before christmas
nadoss [6k\]: this is to become pro
spacetime [4d\]: aren't final exams usually mid-december
CieCie [2d?\]: ilovetora he's making it up by becoming pro
killmejk [4k\]: they would just be starting a new semestere now
U [?\]: finals are nromally in december in north america
DonValley [5d\]: ricky has finals a few days after the tournament
ilovetora [-\]: Oh no sure, I was just providing a piece of information; no judgement
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: of you want to be pro anything you better be willing to put in the time
G361 [?\]: m14
killmejk [4k\]: ricky is in school where?
DonValley [5d\]: princeton
bwv1004 [6k\]: keep comments about game pls
U [?\]: yuan zhou is the oldest at 40
CieCie [2d?\]: Most likely they will be behind a week in school lol if they dont have online classes.
U [?\]: jeremy chiu is 12
spacetime [4d\]: weird game. Matt is still doing ok tho i think
U [?\]: and theyre playing each other on board 4
killmejk [4k\]: o.O
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;B[qm]C[killmejk [4k\]: wat
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;W[qe]C[CieCie [2d?\]: tempted to r13 or m5
CieCie [2d?\]: or thi
anewtry [1d\]: now b can attack top or d11 group
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;B[pe]C[CieCie [2d?\]: awe maybe whte wants r12 O.o
Dyabete [3k?\]: whit 
VeryBlue [5d\]: w gonna tenuki
Strategist [2k\]: does this game define who is pro?
CieCie [2d?\]: no
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;W[ld]C[CieCie [2d?\]: and yes
anewtry [1d\]: its quarterfinals
USGO1 [-\]: here's a weird thing: the ceiling light above the board has begun to flicker
Strategist [2k\]: ok thx
Dyabete [3k?\]: white have so reduce black
USGO1 [-\]: ryan noticed it and now matt has too
CieCie [2d?\]: Ryans moves are too powerful
killmejk [4k\]: go power
CieCie [2d?\]: Becareful USGO1
Muttley [2k\]: bulb needs changing, contact maintenance
nadoss [6k\]: their thinking power is disrupting electrical circuits in close proximity. I think this might be an x-file
spacetime [4d\]:  electric shock ftw
anewtry [1d\]: thunderbolt!
gemp [6d\]: maybe magneto is around them
U [?\]: thats where ryan gets his power from
Muttley [2k\]: That's daft, magneto isn't real
Muttley [2k\]: its probably superman
Strategist [2k\]: i think it's obvious magneto is around
nadoss [6k\]: one of them brought his pikachu because he couldn't find a sitter who could stay for the whole 10 day period
nflow [5d\]: I would sit for a pikachu
kairos [-\]: gemp some suggestions about the game?
Esquisse [8d\]: q6 will be a great move for white
gemp [6d\]: listen to Esquisse, Kairos
kairos [-\]: ^^
Hench [3k\]: black will ignore ;-))
kairos [-\]: not really
Esquisse [8d\]: some funny sequences
Esquisse [8d\]: like q6 r6 q3 p4 s4 
USGO1 [-\]: b has 10m left bt
CieCie [2d?\]: wow
redreoicy [3d\]: i bet on l17 for b
spacetime [4d\]: gotta L17 i feel
CieCie [2d?\]: black wont lose on time will he .-.
U [?\]: b is a slow player, he knows how to handle it
]
;B[kc]
;W[jc]
;B[kd]
;W[ke]C[cloudo [2k?\]: slowpoke
U [?\]: in contrast, ryan is a fast player, plays quite a bti of blitz on kgs
G361 [?\]: m15
spacetime [4d\]: m15 ya?
bert [2d?\]: ya
killmejk [4k\]: whats ryan's kgs name?
VeryBlue [5d\]: TheCaptain
U [?\]: most recent crazywind. he used to go by icydarts too
killmejk [4k\]: What? wasn't the captain playing like 2 hours ago?
MaLa [5d?\]: ...
killmejk [4k\]: the captain is playing now!
redreoicy [3d\]: "don't believe everything u hear on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln
killmejk [4k\]: lol
U [?\]: hes playing right now so yeah
VeryBlue [5d\]: the captain is indeed playing right now.
killmejk [4k\]: amazing!
anewtry [1d\]: captain is just 4d
rs2 [11k\]: crazywind has his rates listed - wonder if those are about to go up...
redreoicy [3d\]: n16 i guess
rs2 [11k\]: (if he wins it all)
U [?\]: its possible
kairos [-\]: q6 a point i wont have found. q3 more common
cloudo [2k?\]: thecaptain is only 4d but he has a big advantage
USGO1 [-\]: b has 5m bt
kairos [-\]: bt= basic time?
rs2 [11k\]: Thanks Chris (USGO1)!
USGO1 [-\]: right
USGO1 [-\]: np
U [?\]: ryan may have to remove the "amateur ftw" thing from his profile too
Lead210 [2k\]: byo-yomi is 5x40 sec?
]
;B[je]C[USGO1 [-\]: correct
Lead210 [2k\]: thanks
kairos [-\]: wow
USGO1 [-\]: have to say it's inspiring seeing how dedicated and talented these young players are
U [?\]: chris you should play in next years pro exam
Esquisse [8d\]: m15 
cloudo [2k?\]: how old are they?
kairos [-\]: yes tanguy^^
VeryBlue [5d\]: yuan zhou is very inspiring as well
killmejk [4k\]: im a fan of zhou
nadoss [6k\]: his "Understanding Dan Level Play" led to a helpful breakthrough for me :)
ilwwamh [1k\]: yet you have a k attached there.
]
;W[jb]C[kairos [-\]: ah
kairos [-\]: my second idea ^^
Muttley [2k\]: he doesn't say it got him to k, just that it helped him appreciate the game more
Muttley [2k\]: that's ok
nadoss [6k\]: Oh I do, thanks for noticing
Muttley [2k\]: Now all he needs is Muttley's "You too can be 9d on KGS!" DVD
U [?\]: chapter 1: ayabot
Muttley [2k\]: comes with free membership of kaya.
]
;B[mc]C[zampa [3k\]: Muttley, and the retail price for that one is?
zampa [3k\]: Onu Muttilion dollar?
Muttley [2k\]: two goats or a foal
anewtry [1d\]: be-being pro for dummies-
zampa [3k\]: one*
Muttley [2k\]: r9 still looking lonely to me
kairos [-\]: now play 8d splendid q6
Muttley [2k\]: but perhaps that's not critical yet
]
;W[kf]C[ilwwamh [1k\]: f9
]
;B[ie]C[Muttley [2k\]: w has the capacity to be a very annoying opponent
Muttley [2k\]: doesn't w h14 to this?
anewtry [1d\]: b is better on whole board imo
redreoicy [3d\]: b escapes w h14 with j13
Muttley [2k\]: k13
redreoicy [3d\]: maybe w just jump to l12
VeryBlue [5d\]: wasnt j14 better shape for b?
]
;W[hf]C[redreoicy [3d\]: oh he did h14 
anewtry [1d\]: w should deal with d11 , r9 and l15 at the same time
Muttley [2k\]: I thought j14 was only move too
killmejk [4k\]: are you suggesting....
killmejk [4k\]: tengen
VeryBlue [5d\]: thats actually a big deal for b
oonicks [?\]: e11 can still get out?
USGO1 [-\]: b has 1m bt left
CieCie [2d?\]: so the question is k13 or j13
redreoicy [3d\]: h14 is certainlyaiming at using e11
oonicks [?\]: f8
]
;B[ig]C[CieCie [2d?\]: j13 it is
]
;W[nf]C[USGO1 [-\]: b enters ot 5/40
killmejk [4k\]: oh dear
bwv1004 [6k\]: byo yomi?
anewtry [1d\]: b may make critical mistakes from now on cause of byoyomi
bwv1004 [6k\]: oh
USGO1 [-\]: b 4/40
nadoss [6k\]: black doesn't exactly have any burly positions anyway
bwv1004 [6k\]: uh
USGO1 [-\]: b 3/40
CieCie [2d?\]: Chris you might want to check Matt's connection I think hes lagging out... lol
kishambo [1k\]: this move is aiming at 016, right?
redreoicy [3d\]: yea
cloudo [2k?\]: what is b doing ? D:
killmejk [4k\]: game over :(
CieCie [2d?\]: reading 
]
;B[og]C[CieCie [2d?\]: i hope
zampa [3k\]: now all w need to do it start a complicated fight
]
;W[nd]C[zampa [3k\]: and he'll win on time.
killmejk [4k\]: he's trying to be pro. He won't do that
cloudo [2k?\]: its not that easy
killmejk [4k\]: doesn't need to either
U [?\]: well ryan does like fighting
]
;B[oc]C[Eyeandeye [2d?\]: are these games ever won on time?
U [?\]: none of the games have ended on time yet
kishambo [1k\]: j14 now works
redreoicy [3d\]: no
USGO1 [-\]: no one has lost on time yet this week, though a few have come within a second or so
redreoicy [3d\]: still ladder
]
;W[jg]C[kishambo [1k\]: ah yes i see thx
anewtry [1d\]: you play just a timesuji for extra time
]
;B[if]
;W[ih]C[maproomad [-\]: British championship games, with twice the time limits, are often won on time  :-)
]
;B[hg]C[U [?\]: even though i tend to play slow, 3 hours is about my limit for looking at one game
ThiGar [4k\]: k12 cut worked, no?
zampa [3k\]: U, not if you play it yourself then i can sit for damn long time :D
]
;W[hc]C[rs2 [10k\]: The usgo.org summaries say that Burrall was in time trouble in round 5 and resigned - doesn't that count? http://www.usgo.org/news/category/eventstournaments/events-aga-tygemgo-online-pro-prelim/ 
VeryBlue [5d\]: oh
U [?\]: thats for my games too
VeryBlue [5d\]: w had to add h17
VeryBlue [5d\]: that explains j15
]
;B[md]C[U [?\]: time trouble doesnt mean that he ran out of time
nadoss [6k\]: i'm playing in a "for fun" league now that plays Fischer timing 30m+15s/m and the idea of a game taking 3 hours terrifies me
]
;W[ki]C[USGO1 [-\]: I think Matt's played all his games in OT
]
;B[pj]C[Eyeandeye [2d?\]: why be scared? just play your normal pace and go out for a cheeseburger the rest of the time
U [?\]: well you know howj long yunguseng games can be
nadoss [6k\]: yeah those rarely top an hour and a half-2 hours
U [?\]: i think my longest game was about 4 hours at a go congress. i was about done at that point
Uberdude [3d\]: i lost the british championship on time =)
CieCie [2d?\]: -.-
]
;W[pn]C[gemp [6d\]: blame Warfreak, Uberdude
U [?\]: the one i played last night lasted just under 2 hrs
Uberdude [3d\]: i ddidn't think it happened often though
CieCie [2d?\]: is that smething you should smile about?
Uberdude [3d\]: better to smile than cry
Dyabete [3k?\]: the move of Esquisse
]
;B[pm]C[CieCie [2d?\]: but deep dwn inside we know what happened
anewtry [1d\]: i miss the times when i was about 10kyu and tournament games and about 20 minutes
CieCie [2d?\]: lol
]
;W[qh]C[CieCie [2d?\]: q6 looked so good
Uberdude [3d\]: i was happier to lose that game on time than the first by resign
]
;B[mo]C[bert [2d?\]: Esquisse me?
gemp [6d\]: Uberdude, you meant the match last year?
]
;W[pk]C[Uberdude [3d\]: yeah
Uberdude [3d\]: well, 2 years ago now
]
;B[oj]C[Uberdude [3d\]: we are in 2015!
bert [2d?\]: i watched it, but remember only vaguely
Dyabete [3k?\]: b p14 is not alive yet no ?
]
;W[ok]C[CieCie [2d?\]: is it supose to bedead?
Uberdude [3d\]: many groups are not alive yet
Uberdude [3d\]: that's what the middlegame is all about
]
;B[nj]
;W[rl]C[anewtry [1d\]: its kinda w took the initiative
bert [2d?\]: so if that is of any consolation to you, uber, at least i already managed to forget that game
CieCie [2d?\]: time to tenuki and k3
]
;B[lg]C[Jermelle [?\]: ouch
CieCie [2d?\]: Jerm you're late!
]
;W[mh]C[CieCie [2d?\]: blacks in ot btw
G361 [?\]: l13
]
;B[mg]C[Jermelle [?\]: Haha, sorry im late
anewtry [1d\]: m13 can get out
mkeller [1d\]: but at a price
bert [2d?\]: the whole operation starting fromk m16 looks to me unnecessary complication by w
USGO1 [-\]: matt's playing these all with seconds to spare
]
;W[nh]C[Muttley [2k\]: Jermelle, you've missed the first part of the tournament
CieCie [2d?\]: haha
Muttley [2k\]: you let Ryan get 7-0, shame on you
]
;B[ng]
;W[oh]C[USGO1 [-\]: matt shakes his head infrustration
Prime [-\]: oh man
Jermelle [?\]: Yeah muttley
CieCie [2d?\]: Are you sure he isnt delighed?
Jermelle [?\]: I couldn't make it xP
Muttley [2k\]: next year.
]
;B[nk]C[Uberdude [3d\]: p17 and n16 wasted moves now
Dyabete [3k?\]: thank USGO that mean the game is over ?
Prime [-\]: he's shaaking his head in delight lol
Muttley [2k\]: I will pay for a unicyclist to get you there if needs be.
Jermelle [?\]: xD
franks [13k\]: the guess is that since he's shaking his head he didn't see the cuttoff
Jermelle [?\]: Next year for sure.
Muttley [2k\]: :)) good to see you, enjoy :)
anewtry [1d\]: maybe a mosqito
mkeller [1d\]: w's life just got a lot easier
Pride [?\]: chill jermelle
Muttley [2k\]: he's shaking his head because for the next 30 moves he will try to settle a heavy group
Pride [?\]: these people are too strong
Jermelle [?\]: And when I say "next year" for sure, I mean this year
Muttley [2k\]: Pride, he was responding to my joke :)
Pride [?\]: lol
Muttley [2k\]: or joshing, call it what you will
]
;W[om]C[killmejk [4k\]: would it really have been so bad to play o7 instead of o9?
]
;B[lh]
;W[li]C[Muttley [2k\]: I guessing w gets to pull out E11 with the fighting later
Muttley [2k\]: but perhaps I'm wrong, maybe it all dies before then
]
;B[mi]C[killmejk [4k\]: i still like black
Lead210 [2k\]: what a fight
]
;W[ph]C[Muttley [2k\]: I think b is overplaying
Dyabete [3k?\]:  q12 better for black no ?
justhinkin [2k\]: how much time does ryan have?
]
;B[nl]C[Dyabete [3k?\]: in ot
USGO1 [-\]: ryan nods his head
gemp [6d\]: what is w doing
gemp [6d\]: really don't understand
USGO1 [-\]: w: 1:05
]
;W[mj]
;B[ni]C[killmejk [4k\]: denies the exchange
franks [13k\]: maybe white just took the entire right side
Muttley [2k\]: I'm wrong, b escapes much more easily than I though
Muttley [2k\]: thought
]
;W[jl]C[Prime [-\]: oh man
]
;B[kp]C[USGO1 [-\]: saves ot period with 2 sec to spare
]
;W[jh]
;B[le]C[Muttley [2k\]: Lee sedol would kill white from here
]
;W[kq]C[Prime [-\]: probably lol
Muttley [2k\]: j4 young padawan
Composite: he would win tho
Jermelle [?\]: Lee sedol would have killed something within the first 20 moves
USGO1 [-\]: b 2/40
Lead210 [2k\]: Kato Masao would like black too)
franks [13k\]: does 2/40
KTC1685 [3k\]: dont exaggerate, muttley
franks [13k\]: mean 2 minutes out of 40 minutes?
Muttley [2k\]: kato would definitely engage in kickassery here
Dyabete [3k?\]:  b say "go seigen give me the power please "
]
;B[hl]C[nadoss [6k\]: no he has 2 period of 40 seconds left
franks [13k\]: oh wow...
USGO1 [-\]: right
anewtry [1d\]: good
franks [13k\]: that's not a lot
nadoss [6k\]: if he plays a move before the period ends he keeps the whole period
Muttley [2k\]: he's in bad byo yomi trouble franks
Composite: 2/40 sounds like canadian time, 2x40 for byomis.. :P
nadoss [6k\]: yeah
Muttley [2k\]: very complex fight, very little time
]
;W[lm]C[Prime [-\]: it would be hilarious if ryan li lost
Prime [-\]: after going undefeated in prelims
]
;B[nm]C[CieCie [2d?\]: well matt has to win twice
ofbusy [3d\]: b seems to have a game, no ?
]
;W[on]C[anewtry [1d\]: i support matt
Muttley [2k\]: I think w remains better
Muttley [2k\]: b doesn't have the time to read it out
nadoss [6k\]: if Ryan wins but the 4-5 matchup needs another game Ryan just gets rest right?
Jermelle [?\]: I feel like Matthew was hiding his true power
Jermelle [?\]: for the real tournament
]
;B[ol]
;W[qn]C[killmejk [4k\]: go matt@
wade [5d\]: j4 seems good move
Composite: dont understand p8
Muttley [2k\]: thx
Composite: it doesnt seem to do anyrthing usefull
mkeller [1d\]: p8?
nadoss [6k\]: that would be a bad idea, because then you'd have to play at a disadvantage for the whole tourney
Muttley [2k\]: I just want to do whatever it takes to give that central w group no way out
]
;B[nn]C[Muttley [2k\]: but this really hurts the lower right for black
Prime [-\]: ryan li is about to go ham
Jermelle [?\]: ^
Jermelle [?\]: indeed
Prime [-\]: he has sente
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: ham?
CieCie [2d?\]: well ham is good
cloudo [2k?\]: i have schokolade filled with oreos
cloudo [2k?\]: it makes me happy
gemp [6d\]: hmm b has s10
bert [2d?\]: german made?
Prime [-\]: jermelle, explain to them what i mean by ham ^^
gemp [6d\]: w needs a move
Jermelle [?\]: he took ham from me lol
Muttley [2k\]: can you really pick apart the white stones with s10?
nadoss [6k\]: it's a street thing
Muttley [2k\]: I couldn't make it work
Composite: matthew is about to go pork
CieCie [2d?\]: To go ham is to brig dow the hammer
Jermelle [?\]: pork is gg
cloudo [2k?\]: yeah, it made in bremen
Jermelle [?\]: to to ham is to go insane
gemp [6d\]: s10, r10, after than b can q8
killmejk [4k\]: i still like black
Dyabete [3k?\]:  s10 is a joke isn't it ?
Prime [-\]: bruh
gemp [6d\]: s10, r11 first
]
;W[pp]C[gemp [6d\]: s9 is atari
Jermelle [?\]: yup, ham indeed
Composite: b losing control
Prime [-\]: the ham is too tasty
]
;B[pq]
;W[op]C[Jermelle [?\]: ham game too stronk
gemp [6d\]: i hope you guys understand my variation
killmejk [4k\]: kill r9!!!!
]
;B[oq]
;W[qq]C[Jermelle [?\]: ham
killmejk [4k\]: lets go Matt!!!
Prime [-\]: too much ham
Jermelle [?\]: ham too stronk
Composite: go piggie go!
Jermelle [?\]: ^
Jermelle [?\]: i smell bacon
]
;B[rp]C[ThiGar [4k\]: at any time, b q8 w s7, b r10
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: i feel old
Prime [-\]: ryan is just shoving the ham down matthews throat
Jermelle [?\]: LO
Jermelle [?\]: What xD
Prime [-\]: lol sorry i did not mean that in a bad way
mkeller [1d\]: o4 n4 n3 cut aji bad now
Jermelle [?\]: k that made my day
Jermelle [?\]: and it's going in my info
Prime [-\]: im sorry if i offended anybody lol
killmejk [4k\]: really sincere apology
killmejk [4k\]: brings tears to my eyes
Prime [-\]: lol
anewtry [1d\]: so gross
]
;W[rm]
;B[np]C[Composite: someone got outread
Bazzi [1d\]: what a nice game.
killmejk [4k\]: Prime you need to read animal farm
wade [5d\]: o4 seems slow
]
;W[gj]C[Composite: q4 killable now
]
;B[hj]C[Composite: without o4, r3 aji would work
Composite: now it doesnt
Jermelle [?\]: the ham
]
;W[hi]C[Jermelle [?\]: too tasty
Prime [-\]: animal farm?
killmejk [4k\]: pigs rule the farm
]
;B[fi]C[Prime [-\]: ah, i se
Prime [-\]: *see
Composite: famous childrens book, dont bother if u r over 10 yrs old
Jermelle [?\]: SE?
ThiGar [4k\]: Prime, how is ryan doing now?
Prime [-\]: i dont think i can describe it without using the word ham
Jermelle [?\]: xD
killmejk [4k\]: you seriously think white is better?
]
;W[hk]C[bert [2d?\]: i do
Composite: white is struggling now
pro5k [1k\]: w have cash
]
;B[gk]
;W[ij]
;B[fj]C[Prime [-\]: W's ham is too tasty
]
;W[gl]
;B[hj]
;W[ik]C[Dyabete [3k?\]: what ko
Composite:  no ko
G361 [?\]: f8
]
;B[gm]C[Jermelle [?\]: ham too stronk
Prime [-\]: oh man
]
;W[fl]C[killmejk [4k\]: long live the ham
Jermelle [?\]: indeed
Prime [-\]: the hams too strong
Jermelle [?\]: the ham is gg
abbabba [1k\]: h6
Jermelle [?\]: if Herod was here we'd both be dead
]
;B[ip]C[killmejk [4k\]: !!!
Prime [-\]: lol
killmejk [4k\]: this ham right here
Jermelle [?\]: hm, interesting
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: they can kill you retroactively :)
]
;W[jq]C[maproomad [-\]: this is not a good day to censor humour
Muttley [2k\]: Well, if you're commenting an admin would ask you to tone it down, perhaps you should tone it down :)
]
;B[hm]C[Prime [-\]: yeah lol
Muttley [2k\]: or follow maproom's advice :)
Borachon [3k\]: maproom, too. good to be back on KGS :)
]
;W[dm]C[CieCie [2d?\]: this game is approachig its end soon
Muttley [2k\]: Today's events were appalling, shall we try to have a minute's silence out of respect?
]
;B[ek]C[CieCie [2d?\]: it should be a move of silence lol
Bazzi [1d\]: Hello, Muttley!
mkeller [1d\]: not the best time for lol
Jermelle [?\]: hmm, maproomad thanks for giving me my room btw. I remember your name
mkeller [1d\]: or maybe it is because of what happened 
]
;W[fm]
;B[jp]
;W[iq]C[Muttley [2k\]: Minute up, thanks all :)
Prime [-\]: so, about that ham
]
;B[jm]C[Muttley [2k\]: w 55.5 b 58 if he takes n2 I get, so I reckon it really is close game
U [?\]: that middle group seems to be awfully floaty
Dyabete [3k?\]: yes about that ham, what is ham exactly ?
]
;W[jn]C[Prime [-\]: a meat
Jermelle [?\]: ^
Prime [-\]: a delicious, wonderful meat
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: ham-fisted humor
]
;B[im]C[U [?\]: i prefer turkey
]
;W[km]
;B[kn]C[Mindlag [?\]: k7 mistake?
Mindlag [?\]: nvm
nadoss [6k\]: please don't censor for explaining I'm thinking it might kill it faster. It's an acronym for "Hard as (a) motha******" referencing when someone "goes beast mode" or gets intense and wins it
Muttley [2k\]: I think b is still connected
]
;W[ln]
;B[ko]
;W[ho]C[Prime [-\]: yes nadoss, that is what it means
Muttley [2k\]: huh, please don't swear on kgs, nadoss, even with symbols
]
;B[hp]C[DonaldDuck [1k\]: B is doing very well
]
;W[hq]C[G361 [?\]: g25
G361 [?\]: g5
Prime [-\]: g25 = pro move
nadoss [6k\]: i sure hope that was ironic
]
;B[go]C[Dyabete [3k?\]: stop ham pride
G361 [?\]: Lol ! ;-)
killmejk [4k\]: ham pride <3
Prime [-\]: dat ham tho
Jermelle [?\]: ham for life
U [?\]: ricky resigns v eric
Bazzi [1d\]: How many American pros are there?
Mindlag [?\]: 3
bbio [5k\]: go ryan
Prime [-\]: as of today, that is
]
;W[fk]C[nflow [5d\]: American or North American
Prime [-\]: north american
killmejk [4k\]: #GoHam #BeatCanada
Bazzi [1d\]: us pro
Mindlag [?\]: well the Canadian pro is a pro under the AGA so I just consider him as part of the American pros
pro5k [1k\]: e5 ?
]
;B[cr]C[Prime [-\]: hm, i dunno
Prime [-\]: it depends
mooooo [4k\]: there are south american pros?
]
;W[eo]C[Bazzi [1d\]: yes
]
;B[gn]
;W[dl]
;B[dk]C[DonaldDuck [1k\]: B winning?
VeryBlue [5d\]: yes
cheerup: b seems winning
nadoss [6k\]: doesn't S3 work for w?
DonaldDuck [1k\]: no
pro5k [1k\]: s3 s2 
cheerup: b p5 will capture w
Lead210 [2k\]: s3 then p5
]
;W[ro]C[nadoss [6k\]: ah
Dyabete [3k?\]: and now ! haha !
Dyabete [3k?\]: ok sorry
]
;B[qr]
;W[hh]C[sedgwick [5d?\]: B lead about 10 on the board?
]
;B[gh]C[Muttley [2k\]: I think so
sedgwick [5d?\]: But with w sente quite close..
Wagaboo [2k\]: b lead ? surprising !
U [?\]: this would be quite an upset. but matt would still ahve to win again to advance
Muttley [2k\]: if b connects at g10, he has e6 follw up
KTC1685 [3k\]: b4?
killmejk [4k\]: white sente is miai
HKA [1d\]: Matt is good at upsets
U [?\]: ben defeats daniel, ben advances to play eric
nflow [5d\]: w+5
DrStraw [-\]: eric has won already?
U [?\]: yes
Violence [1d\]: Yes, Ricky resigned
]
;W[mr]C[Dyabete [3k?\]: n2 is bigger than B17 ?
bbio [5k\]: i count w leading but i don't know how to count
]
;B[qj]C[franks [13k\]: omg
franks [13k\]: what the
]
;W[rj]C[anewtry [1d\]: eric and ben in semis
]
;B[bc]C[misterious [8d\]: w leading slightly i believe
bbio [5k\]: \\o/
]
;W[bb]
;B[ab]C[U [?\]: is it double elim format?
]
;W[ba]C[USGO1 [-\]: single
Violence [1d\]: no, single elim, best of 3
killmejk [4k\]: l18?
]
;B[lk]C[Borachon [3k\]: with the first game carrying in from the round robin
Violence [1d\]: round robin results affect bracket
]
;W[kk]C[G361 [?\]: m8
]
;B[qf]
;W[rf]C[nflow [5d\]: w definitely winning,
mooooo [4k\]: its is best of 3 but without loser bracket so if u lose best of 3 u are out
nflow [5d\]: by about komi
]
;B[qg]
;W[rg]C[nadoss [6k\]: no there's a full bracket so the players end up having positions 1-8
Bazzi [1d\]: b win.
]
;B[qi]C[Prime [-\]: well the main point of this tournament is so that one player can go pro
]
;W[ri]C[MaLa [5d?\]: and 2 more do not need to qualify for next year
MaLa [5d?\]: but are already qualified
U [?\]: yes 2nd and 3rd get seeded to next pro exam
]
;B[dq]C[Muttley [2k\]: oh, I see, nasty snapback trap
Muttley [2k\]: white is naughty
]
;W[er]C[Bazzi [1d\]: I hope they will beat asian pros in international cup.
calydon [2d\]: btw, why isn't Billin there?
Muttley [2k\]: I thought Bill's studying in Chicago
]
;B[cp]C[bbio [5k\]: i don't like this b sente
U [?\]: hes at university in chicago, yes
killmejk [4k\]: nerdz
sedgwick [5d?\]: f6 sente for w right?
Muttley [2k\]: yes
mkeller [1d\]: yes
Muttley [2k\]: b has to clean up the aji there
]
;W[in]C[mkeller [1d\]: snapback
]
;B[io]C[DonValley [5d\]: game over e6?
redreoicy [3d\]: w play gooder order :D
sedgwick [5d?\]: nice order :)
]
;W[fn]
;B[hn]C[calydon [2d\]: why is this order better?
]
;W[gj]C[billlin [8d\]: talking about me?..
killmejk [4k\]: q8
Muttley [2k\]: can w win this by 0.5 to 1.5?
DonValley [5d\]: nvm
USGO2 [-\]: hey bill, we miss you!
Wagaboo [2k\]: :D
U [?\]: yes we were
sedgwick [5d?\]: We're missing you in the comp Bill:)
]
;B[kb]C[U [?\]: a lot of people asking why you arent in
DonValley [5d\]: bill!
redreoicy [3d\]: this order is better because later w plays j8 and b has to add a move
Lsugyen [7d\]: now Bill's close to me!
Muttley [2k\]: I reckon its because Bill will only play if he can give them all 5 stone handi
]
;W[cs]
;B[bs]C[redreoicy [3d\]: so 1 pt better for w
]
;W[ds]C[Muttley [2k\]: they're scared he'll still win
billlin [8d\]: ahh sorry my school started this week already so..
USGO2 [-\]: so miss a week of school, sheesh...
AutoAtari [1k\]: doesn't b need to add a move anyway?
Muttley [2k\]: case closed
agony [5k\]: putting school before go?  What is the world coming to?
Wagaboo [2k\]: school and 7d
USGO2 [-\]: ;)
]
;B[br]C[Lsugyen [7d\]: w leading by double komi
redreoicy [3d\]: if e6 b will j6 then no more moves
killmejk [4k\]: everybody is so young
billlin [8d\]: got classes that would fail me if i dont go lol
killmejk [4k\]: makes me sad
nflow [5d\]: obviously pro is not worth a week of school
bigfry [3d\]: go > school
Wagaboo [2k\]: what do you study billin ?
bigfry [3d\]: obviously
redreoicy [3d\]: maybe bill knows he wont be pro :S
r0n1n [4k\]: with q8 looks like w around 81
r0n1n [4k\]: and b around 75
bbio [5k\]: well it's his choice, respect that please
]
;W[nr]C[bigfry [3d\]: bill is pro
r0n1n [4k\]: but my counting is a bit drunk so i'm not sure
KTC1685 [3k\]: w is winning imo
]
;B[ja]
;W[ia]C[Uberdude [3d\]: i bet b regrets d3 now
]
;B[ka]C[myongstu [3d\]: being pro is just for pride not for a financially safe future
Uberdude [3d\]: lost so m,ich
]
;W[ic]C[Muttley [2k\]: w 68.5, b 65 I get
killmejk [4k\]: q8
]
;B[ll]C[killmejk [4k\]: maybe m8 first
]
;W[kl]C[r0n1n [4k\]: well probably ;)
]
;B[lj]C[killmejk [4k\]: :)
r0n1n [4k\]: maybe i added 10 points to both b and w
]
;W[ps]C[bbio [5k\]: ryan is on fire
]
;B[or]
;W[os]C[r0n1n [4k\]: isn't q8 bigger?
killmejk [4k\]: his end game sure is nice
]
;B[qs]C[redreoicy [3d\]: q8 only 6pts gote
Prime [-\]: ryan li ftw
killmejk [4k\]: ham for life
Prime [-\]: lol
Prime [-\]: the hams too tasy
Wagaboo [2k\]: no toom for w to win ^^
pro5k [1k\]: m8 time
r0n1n [4k\]: yeah but 6 points gote seems a lot now
]
;W[pl]C[killmejk [4k\]: don't taze the ham
r0n1n [4k\]: i don't see bigger moves
r0n1n [4k\]: hah
pro5k [1k\]: f15 
]
;B[kj]C[r0n1n [4k\]: except m14 sente
DonaldDuck [1k\]: w win
Leonidas [2k\]: 6 points almost komi
critter [1k\]: what is komi?
DrStraw [-\]: funny - once he played Q8 the entire right side died - according to SE
killmejk [4k\]: 8?
]
;W[so]C[Mindlag [?\]: that endgame
]
;B[sp]C[nflow [5d\]: t5 pretty cool
nflow [5d\]: I totally missed it
Dyabete [3k?\]: ham...ham.......ham ...
DonaldDuck [1k\]: ryan is still strong
anewtry [1d\]: 10 points differebce up for w
]
;W[qo]
;B[rq]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: g15  biggest now
DonaldDuck [1k\]: p5 sente
redreoicy [3d\]: p5 n3
redreoicy [3d\]: then b can capture q1 stones if w tenuki
AutoAtari [1k\]: what was the followup to t5? t3?
]
;W[jj]C[gemp [6d\]: game over, w wins
killmejk [4k\]: f15
Lead210 [2k\]: Was a good game
]
;B[kh]C[Bazzi [1d\]: Then w can be a pro?
]
;W[ji]C[gemp [6d\]: f11 was the losing move
Lead210 [2k\]: Interesting fuseki for B
]
;B[qd]
;W[rd]C[killmejk [4k\]: f11 did look bad
r0n1n [4k\]: i'm guessing w+6,5
galacticgo [1k\]: why was t5 sente
]
;B[fe]C[Mindlag [?\]: t3
KTC1685 [3k\]: w +2,5
]
;W[fd]C[galacticgo [1k\]: o
]
;B[he]C[pro5k [1k\]: w+4,5
pro5k [1k\]: n8  is big
r0n1n [4k\]: m14 is sente
r0n1n [4k\]: p5 looks sente too
DrStraw [-\]: n8 is two 2p gote, same at p19
redreoicy [3d\]: p5 is definitely not sente
nflow [5d\]: n3
Muttley [2k\]: b 73, w 73.5
redreoicy [3d\]: n3 is big
r0n1n [4k\]: p5 if w tenuki o5 n6 n4 m5 n3 t2 
redreoicy [3d\]: but even after n3 p5 still not sente
Muttley [2k\]: I think it comes down to who if w gets n8
r0n1n [4k\]: looks big
r0n1n [4k\]: but yeah not really sente
killmejk [4k\]: e8 is sente
nflow [5d\]: n8 the same as q19 
nflow [5d\]: each will get one
DrStraw [-\]: n8 and p19 are miai
Muttley [2k\]: hum
Mindlag [?\]: transcriber lagging or is Ryan thinking?
Muttley [2k\]: then I get it down to a 1.5 game
Muttley [2k\]: I bet RYan is counting
USGO1 [-\]: ryan's thinking; shaking his head slightly
Mindlag [?\]: okay, thanks.
nflow [5d\]: maybe b+0.5
Lsugyen [7d\]: how?
Muttley [2k\]: I suspect so, nflow
Muttley [2k\]: but I can't figure out the final sequence
]
;W[mq]
;B[el]
;W[em]C[r0n1n [4k\]: looks to me that w is 68 without komi
]
;B[cd]C[killmejk [4k\]: we need a ham miracle
]
;W[lf]C[redreoicy [3d\]: w wins by .5
]
;B[mf]C[killmejk [4k\]: ?
KTC1685 [3k\]: w +2.5
Violence [1d\]: Scribe error
]
;W[dd]C[DrStraw [-\]: W retracted a move?
Muttley [2k\]: no, the relayer did
Violence [1d\]: black has to G15 now?
nadoss [6k\]: they probably played the exchange really quickly, so he looked up and saw C16, D16 and figured they were consecutive
xedover [?\]: yes, they allow undo's in this tournament :p
]
;B[ge]
;W[oa]
;B[na]
;W[pa]
;B[mm]C[redreoicy [3d\]: wait w made error and it could have been ko for game
r0n1n [4k\]: i'd finally go with w+2,5
redreoicy [3d\]: but b didn't play p5 and now w will
DonaldDuck [1k\]: 7.5 komi?
KTC1685 [3k\]: y
Violence [1d\]: P5, H6, then dame fighting?
bigfry [3d\]: what error?
killmejk [4k\]: black still has h16
Violence [1d\]: H16^
redreoicy [3d\]: oh h16 is a thing
redreoicy [3d\]: i didn't see it
killmejk [4k\]: am i 9d now?
Mindlag [?\]: no
killmejk [4k\]: ok
r0n1n [4k\]: nearly tho
killmejk [4k\]: team ham
AutoAtari [1k\]: you are hereby promoted to 5k
USGO1 [-\]: white resigns
nflow [5d\]: I'm confused by how much, but w wins
U [?\]: ohh
killmejk [4k\]: !!!!!!!!!!!
killmejk [4k\]: TEAM HAM
KochKoch [1d\]: what
KochKoch [1d\]: what
Rochedale [5k?\]: Wha?
KochKoch [1d\]: what
Prime [-\]: HAM 4 DA WIN
USGO1 [-\]: thanks so much for watching
r0n1n [4k\]: what??
Lead210 [2k\]: WTF?
r0n1n [4k\]: really?
Mindlag [?\]: wha
killmejk [4k\]: HAM HAM HAM HAM HAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
nadoss [6k\]: you guys were saying Ryan Li was ham
Prime [-\]: HAM NATION
Dyabete [3k?\]:  can you repeat that USGO ?
r0n1n [4k\]: are you sure usgo1?
USGO1 [-\]: yes, matthew burrall wins by resignation
r0n1n [4k\]: ;)
Leonidas [2k\]: b+2
redreoicy [3d\]: w mistake was not playing g15 in time
hobajons [-\]: HWAT
hobajons [-\]: THE 
U [?\]: so they will play again tomorrow morning
calydon [2d\]: now I am confused
hobajons [-\]: MATTHEW!!!!
r0n1n [4k\]: o_OOOOO
rs2 [11k\]: Thanks Chris / USGO1
xedover [?\]: wow, thanks usgo1!
killmejk [4k\]: AMERIA
killmejk [4k\]: USA
redreoicy [3d\]: if w did g15 instead of n3 would be his win
kermit81 [?\]: good game
calydon [2d\]: is game transimted correctly?
AutoAtari [1k\]: where is SE wrong?
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: aga rules for one
U [?\]: SE isnt good with aga counting
DrStraw [-\]: not wrong - komi is wrong
USGO1 [-\]: we're back again tmw morning for round 3
AutoAtari [1k\]: ah, weird rules
KochKoch [1d\]: was he down by.5 or somethuing?
AutoAtari [1k\]: w+0.5 with Japanese rules
redreoicy [3d\]: yes w lost .5
Rochedale [5k?\]: Holy cow.
Dyabete [3k?\]: xD
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: confidence in count to resign .5 game
U [?\]: matt did really well considering he was in byo yomi around move 60
U [?\]: i thought he would fall apart at that point
AutoAtari [1k\]: I wouldn't resign a 30 point game, in fact I wouldn't be sure who's winning :D
HKA [1d\]: Matt was born in byo yomi
xedover [?\]: lol
KochKoch [1d\]: wtg matt wow
U [?\]: yesterday i finished a game i thought i lost but i had won by almost 30. thats why i dont resign
Mindlag [?\]: Ryan's black tomororw tho
Mindlag [?\]: *tomorrow
HKA [1d\]: no he is not
Mindlag [?\]: don't they switch colors?
HKA [1d\]: they will choose color tomorrow, I believe
xedover [?\]: nigiri I think
Mindlag [?\]: ah
HKA [1d\]: they arleady switched colors
DrStraw [-\]: did he lose because of that silly pass stone rule?
Mindlag [?\]: I see
redreoicy [3d\]: im wrong again
Warfreak2 [4d\]: hooray for an exciting result
redreoicy [3d\]: h16 was sente for b
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if matthew gets through, ben will have an easier time
redreoicy [3d\]: that means w is just lost farther back than that
HKA [1d\]: it does mean we will onlly have a best of three final though
r0n1n [4k\]: i just checked : in fact, black wins by 0,5
xedover [?\]: no DrStraw, the result would be the same
HKA [1d\]: which is a loss I think
r0n1n [4k\]: because pf h16 sente
AutoAtari [1k\]: b+about 4.5 with aga rules apparently
r0n1n [4k\]: 0,5, 100%sure
DrStraw [-\]: if he lost by 0.5 but had to hand a stone over as his last move then he really won by 0.6
AutoAtari [1k\]: oops, I missed a couple of stones, now I get w+0.5 :o
Rochedale [5k?\]: I don't believe the pass rules made a difference, DrStraw. However, the 7.5 komi certainly did.
DrStraw [-\]: sure the pass stone does.  I W has to play last by handing over a stone that is one point
heavyd: Pass stone will only effect the outcome if there is a seki changing the polarity of the game
Dyabete [3k?\]: in my memorie white win this game now and for all time 
Rochedale [5k?\]: All that does is make the score the same regardless of whether or not you're using territory or area counting. It very rarely changes the actual outcome.
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: apparently the higher komi combined with the pass ruke, all systems count final score equally
DrStraw [-\]: I think here it did
Rochedale [5k?\]: Here, I think W would win under Japanese rules, but that is because of the komi difference, not the pass stone.
CieCie [2d?\]: tough game for Burrall
DrStraw [-\]: I cloned it and filled the dame.  W won by 0.5
au2 [1k\]: b by 2.5 ?
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: under which rule set?
au2 [1k\]: AGA
DrStraw [-\]: exactly, which rules? the pass stone was the difference
DrStraw [-\]: that is why I don't like AGA rules
franks [13k\]: lol at that level they're probably okay with komi? just guessing
xedover [?\]: Japanese rules with 6.5 komi == AGA rules with 7.5 komi
Warfreak2 [4d\]: heavyd: Pass stone will only effect the outcome if there is a seki changing the polarity of the game
Warfreak2 [4d\]: this is false
Lsugyen [7d\]: black won?
xedover [?\]: yes
Lsugyen [7d\]: seriously?
Lsugyen [7d\]: Ryan Li is out!
franks [13k\]: uh no
franks [13k\]: lol...
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no, there's another game
franks [13k\]: they play again
Warfreak2 [4d\]: best of 3
Warfreak2 [4d\]: ryan won the first
Lsugyen [7d\]: what?
Mindlag [?\]: ryan won against burral in the prelims
Lsugyen [7d\]: isn't matthew b in this game?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: round robin counts as the first game
Lsugyen [7d\]: so now it's 1-1?
xedover [?\]: they are 1-1... they have a playoff game
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes
Mindlag [?\]: so whoever wins tomorrow advances
Lsugyen [7d\]: so tie again right?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: exciting times
Leonidas [2k\]: this is a tough defeat.. hopefully ryan can get over it before the next game
Lsugyen [7d\]: I count w winning though
Mindlag [?\]: not really a tough defeat from the standpoint of the result i guess
Lsugyen [7d\]: hmm
Uberdude [3d\]: o2 mistake?
Mindlag [?\]: but I guess it sucks to lose still :/
Eyeandeye [2d?\]: cant go 11-0 now
Leonidas [2k\]: psychologically 0,5 is tough
Evanthya [10k\]: so when will they play their 3rd game?
xedover [?\]: tomorrow
Evanthya [10k\]: oh ok
Warfreak2 [4d\]: relay may have some mistakes
Warfreak2 [4d\]: result IRL is b wins by resign
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