(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[2nd AGA Pro - Exhibition -- Daniel Gourdeau (w) vs Eric Lui (b)]PW[Daniel Gourdeau]PB[Eric Lui]WR[6d]BR[7d]DT[2014-01-06]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]
;W[dc]
;B[pp]
;W[cq]
;B[de]
;W[cg]
;B[cc]
;W[gc]
;B[dd]
;W[db]
;B[fd]
;W[hc]C[Pempu [3d\]: uhm
]
;B[dh]C[Pempu [3d\]: old game?
]
;W[dg]
;B[eg]
;W[ch]
;B[di]
;W[ci]
;B[dj]
;W[ck]
;B[ff]
;W[qf]
;B[jc]
;W[cb]C[JeansebL [6d?\]: no, exhibition league
]
;B[qd]C[JeansebL [6d?\]: p17 :p
USGO3 [-\]: its possible I got the first ten moves out of order.. they had already started and I was catching up
]
;W[nc]C[Nyanjilla [-\]: how mean of them!
]
;B[pi]
;W[kd]
;B[id]
;W[kc]
;B[kb]
;W[he]
;B[ie]
;W[if]
;B[jf]
;W[ge]
;B[lb]
;W[md]
;B[ne]
;W[lf]
;B[ig]
;W[hf]
;B[jg]
;W[lh]
;B[mg]
;W[lg]
;B[jj]
;W[nh]
;B[og]
;W[hg]
;B[lj]
;W[ng]
;B[nf]
;W[nj]
;B[le]
;W[me]
;B[mf]
;W[ke]
;B[mh]
;W[mi]
;B[li]
;W[jb]
;B[ib]
;W[ic]
;B[ja]
;W[jd]
;B[je]
;W[ob]
;B[pb]
;W[oh]
;B[nd]
;W[mc]
;B[oc]
;W[kh]
;B[jh]
;W[ph]
;B[jb]
;W[mb]
;B[la]
;W[pa]
;B[qa]
;W[na]
;B[oa]
;W[ki]
;B[kj]
;W[pa]
;B[hb]
;W[qb]
;B[oa]
;W[oe]
;B[od]
;W[pa]
;B[lc]
;W[ld]
;B[oa]
;W[ji]
;B[ii]
;W[pa]C[cranium [2d\]: js tu sais tu dan a gagné cb de games ?
]
;B[pc]
;W[rc]
;B[oa]
;W[hh]
;B[ih]
;W[pa]
;B[ra]C[cranium [2d\]: b gets crushed
]
;W[rb]
;B[oa]
;W[ij]
;B[hi]
;W[pa]
;B[rd]
;W[sa]
;B[qa]
;W[kf]
;B[oa]
;W[gi]
;B[hj]
;W[pa]
;B[ma]
;W[fh]C[HappyGuy [4d\]: who are the players
]
;B[eh]
;W[gj]
;B[dk]
;W[sc]
;B[oa]
;W[hk]
;B[ik]
;W[pa]
;B[pg]
;W[ra]
;B[qh]C[cranium [2d\]: read the names :P
]
;W[cl]
;B[dl]
;W[qi]
;B[qg]
;W[dm]
;B[em]
;W[en]
;B[fm]
;W[hl]
;B[dn]
;W[cm]
;B[eo]
;W[fk]
;B[fl]
;W[pj]
;B[ri]
;W[qj]
;B[rj]
;W[nl]
;B[lm]
;W[nn]
;B[mq]
;W[lo]
;B[jn]
;W[kn]C[Justin9202 [17k\]: wow
]
;B[km]C[Justin9202 [17k\]: so far in the tournament those who have played black almost always won 0.0
]
;W[hn]
;B[jo]
;W[fn]C[fakeyou [2d\]: b - bbw?
]
;B[gn]
;W[fo]C[gnarf [1d\]: bbw not Andy?
]
;B[go]
;W[fp]C[fakeyou [2d\]: ah Andy
fakeyou [2d\]: ty
]
;B[gl]
;W[gp]C[USGO3 [-\]: black has 5 mins left.. white is in byo-yomi already
Nao [7d\]: black is not andy and he is not bbw 
]
;B[gb]C[Nao [7d\]: black was i think... compendium back than
Nao [7d\]: and...... Pianist.... I think
]
;W[ho]
;B[gk]
;W[gm]
;B[el]
;W[fc]
;B[bc]
;W[df]C[Nayel [3k\]: is B ok there ?
johnny [6k\]: B b15?
NekoStone [1d\]: no
]
;B[ef]
;W[bb]
;B[be]
;W[fg]C[USGO3 [-\]: black is in byo-yomi now
]
;B[ab]
;W[ec]
;B[ee]
;W[fb]C[flurane [4k\]: 2 eyes 4 w
]
;B[ea]C[JeansebL [6d?\]: where ?
Nirvanc [4k\]: g12
flurane [4k\]: ah,ok,no
Nirvanc [4k\]: and e219
]
;W[fa]C[Nirvanc [4k\]: 19*
DeadTired [2d\]: that was a demand, not a statement. We demand that white be given two eyes
JeansebL [6d?\]: this is a semai, and not an easy one
Nirvanc [4k\]: white isn't alive??
]
;B[fi]
;W[fj]C[DeadTired [2d\]: white must regret not playing g18 earlier?
]
;B[ei]C[JeansebL [6d?\]: g12 for liberties now ?
JeansebL [6d?\]: or b14 too important ?
]
;W[ba]C[JeansebL [6d?\]: ah this first for libs cool
]
;B[da]
;W[bf]C[Le34 [-\]: who win Calvin or Bill?
DeadTired [2d\]: looks like w secured a larger eye
climbtrees [6k\]: Bill
JeansebL [6d?\]: Bill ofc :)
Nirvanc [4k\]: bill won
rsun [5d\]: sorry for asking this, but why schedule the exhibition game at the same time as the final match??
JeansebL [6d?\]: yeah good question :p
Le34 [-\]: thx
climbtrees [6k\]: saves on room rental
wuwei [4k\]: because you can't have everything
qwrtyuii: b dead
]
;B[ce]C[Nirvanc [4k\]: very hard for b
]
;W[gh]
;B[gf]
;W[ql]C[johnny [6k\]: if seki in top L, who wins?
flurane [4k\]: b had throught in g12 firts
JeansebL [6d?\]: w says, this is seki, thanks for the game
croc [4d\]: :D
indianayk [4d\]: is eric ok?
]
;B[qn]C[rsun [5d\]: doesn't this beg 33?
]
;W[np]C[rsun [5d\]: guess not
Le34 [-\]: when w dead on d18, is over for w
]
;B[nq]
;W[jq]C[RiFLoK [5k\]: but, is w dead?
JeansebL [6d?\]: where ?
Blondin [5k\]: no blck
RiFLoK [5k\]: b19
Le34 [-\]: sec, need calcuate
JeansebL [6d?\]: no it's seki
]
;B[om]C[JeansebL [6d?\]: 1 eye each, and so many common libs
RiFLoK [5k\]: yeah
cata [1k\]: but white's eye is big, and b's eye will be small
DeadTired [2d\]: to me it is not even clear it is seki, because b's eye is smaller
]
;W[nm]C[indianayk [4d\]: more likely b is dead
cata [1k\]: can't w fill in the common libs, take away the stones in his eye, fill in the last lib, and then capture b?
JeansebL [6d?\]: too many common libs to make a difference
Le34 [-\]: yep, seki
rsun [5d\]: w eye not that big
DeadTired [2d\]: but b's eye can be made into one space
cata [1k\]: white can fill in all the libs but one and then capture 3
JeansebL [6d?\]: t16 is big...
cata [1k\]: black throws in, w fills in last lib with atari
rsun [5d\]: eventually, b will c19 e18 and d19, so it's not that much of a difference
]
;B[il]C[rsun [5d\]: w doesn't have time to fill all the common libs
]
;W[hm]C[rsun [5d\]: in other words w's eye isn't big enough
indianayk [4d\]: w does not need to
DeadTired [2d\]: if w has a 4 point eye and b has a two point eye, how is it not big enough
]
;B[iq]C[cata [1k\]: b will have a 1 point eye, right?
SuiKage [2d\]: what the heck happened on the left
rsun [5d\]: are you asking whether it is seki
kprist [3d\]: if w a16, his eye is big enough...
DeadTired [2d\]: depends on who moes first cata
cata [1k\]: oh i see
]
;W[pn]C[rsun [5d\]: it's already seki, so w doesn 
SuiKage [2d\]: isn't moving first like really huge then?
cata [1k\]: oh, but two or one, the same strategy still works for w
rsun [5d\]: doesn't fill 
DeadTired [2d\]: I think the only way it can be a seki is because of ko around a18
DeadTired [2d\]: otherwise b is just dead
rsun [5d\]: for b to be dead, w needs to fill all the common libs
DeadTired [2d\]: yes
]
;B[dq]
;W[eq]
;B[gr]C[DeadTired [2d\]: and he can do it whenever he wants
rsun [5d\]: but while w fills common libs, b fills from the outside
DeadTired [2d\]: yes
DeadTired [2d\]: and then right before filling the last common lib, w takes the stones at d19
]
;W[fr]
;B[qm]
;W[pm]C[johnny [6k\]: B q5?
]
;B[rl]
;W[po]C[rsun [5d\]: ic what you mean now
nujabes [3k\]: w got sente
Greytable: Does anyone know if Bill LIn won his game today?
DeadTired [2d\]: yes
]
;B[qo]C[jasz [1d\]: he did
cata [1k\]: it seems like b can't win the ko, since w will just keep fighting it before he starts filling in the common libs
]
;W[rk]C[Greytable: Thanks
SuiKage [2d\]: so it's bill lin vs calvin sun in the finals?
DeadTired [2d\]: cata: I think so too, but technically it is a possibility :)
]
;B[op]
;W[no]C[petraube [2k\]: w can wait the end of the game to play A19 no ko threat
]
;B[sk]C[basilika: if w plays a16, doesnt that do the job? dead without complications
]
;W[qk]C[indianayk [4d\]: what is Dan's KGS name?
]
;B[jr]C[Le34 [-\]: i know only that Calvin - kbag
]
;W[kp]C[DeadTired [2d\]: basilika: seems so (I haven't realized that a16 a15 b16 works for w)
]
;B[kr]
;W[rm]C[johnny [6k\]: ouch
]
;B[sm]
;W[sl]C[houloulou [1k\]: Awesome game !
johnny [6k\]: now B in trouble
]
;B[cj]
;W[bj]C[Loxios [1d\]: such a free ko :(
Waterlie [4k?\]: houlala c'est chaud xD
]
;B[rl]C[nujabes [3k\]: s6 
nujabes [3k\]: ...
]
;W[ga]
;B[ha]
;W[sl]
;B[bk]
;W[bi]
;B[rl]C[DeadTired [2d\]: I think w wants to avoid s6 if possible, so that the ko is bigger
johnny [6k\]: B with threats in bottom L too
]
;W[hr]C[despot [1k\]: is the byo-yomi just 40 sec per move?
]
;B[hq]
;W[sl]C[johnny [6k\]: c6
]
;B[dr]C[despot [1k\]: g3?
]
;W[dp]
;B[rl]
;W[gq]
;B[ir]C[johnny [6k\]: is W t16 good?
]
;W[sl]
;B[cp]C[despot [1k\]: only if there's nothing bigger on the board for a threat
]
;W[bp]C[Waterlie [4k?\]: w e16/g15?
]
;B[rl]C[DeadTired [2d\]: idk, t16 is not small
Waterlie [4k?\]: (e16/f15)
]
;W[sd]C[Loxios [1d\]: ^^
johnny [6k\]: yay!
Lsugyen [6d\]: good for w?
]
;B[re]
;W[sl]C[despot [1k\]: I wonder how many points w needs out of this ko to win the game
Loxios [1d\]: let's count
DeadTired [2d\]: johnny wins a bronze kibitz
Marnoris [?\]: .
]
;B[cn]
;W[bl]
;B[rl]
;W[se]C[despot [1k\]: threats around j4?
DeadTired [2d\]: despot: I suspect the answer to be negative
Loxios [1d\]: 47 points for b if he wins the ko
despot [1k\]: oh you think w has won even without that ko, I see
]
;B[rf]
;W[sl]C[Loxios [1d\]: and 57 for w + komi
Rememberr [6k\]: b upper left is dead ?
despot [1k\]: seki right now
Loxios [1d\]: or i miss something
kprist [3d\]: no it's dead
]
;B[bm]C[DeadTired [2d\]: dead
]
;W[ak]C[Loxios [1d\]: yeah i missed 6 more points for b
despot [1k\]: we've been through this before
]
;B[rl]C[despot [1k\]: top left is seki
]
;W[gs]C[despot [1k\]: just play out the "killing sequence" and you'll see
DeadTired [2d\]: I played it and b is dead
adads: s6...
Loxios [1d\]: w is winning by 5 prisonner + komi + 4 points
kprist [3d\]: I did and it's dead
]
;B[ae]C[DeadTired [2d\]: now b is using it for threats
despot [1k\]: if it's dead, the game has been over for a long time
]
;W[af]C[DeadTired [2d\]: well, I believe it has been over
]
;B[mk]C[LoveAnew [2d\]: this is aga rules?
]
;W[sl]
;B[co]C[Frasemus [7k\]: yes
]
;W[cr]C[despot [1k\]: I don't understand how you see b dead top left
]
;B[rl]C[DeadTired [2d\]: let's clone the game?
despot [1k\]: sure
Le34 [-\]: despot, seki
DeadTired [2d\]: ok, EGR
Le34 [-\]: on d19
]
;W[sf]C[Le34 [-\]: and e15
]
;B[sg]
;W[sl]
;B[bq]
;W[br]
;B[rl]C[Loxios [1d\]: aga counting is like japanese one or china ?
Rememberr [6k\]: ok seki
]
;W[im]C[Blondin [5k\]: china
Loxios [1d\]: ok ty
Rememberr [6k\]: bur w big leed
Loxios [1d\]: i can only count japanese :S
]
;B[jm]
;W[sl]
;B[ac]
;W[bd]
;B[rl]
;W[ml]
;B[ll]
;W[sl]C[wuwei [4k\]: the result shouldn't be different
]
;B[hd]
;W[gd]
;B[rl]C[despot [1k\]: h16 .. w can now l13
Loxios [1d\]: actually it migh be
]
;W[lq]C[Lsugyen [6d\]: killing move
Loxios [1d\]: but white wins whatever
sedgwick [?\]: Is this working?
adads: b can n4
]
;B[mp]
;W[jp]
;B[ip]
;W[ln]
;B[lp]C[Rememberr [6k\]: nice
]
;W[ko]
;B[kq]
;W[sl]C[nujabes [3k\]: m3 how to lose points in sente
minimalist [3k\]: j5 ?
despot [1k\]: a small mistake, since the threat worked
despot [1k\]: and it generated another threat at j5 next
]
;B[bo]
;W[aq]C[Blondin [5k\]: k5 can die?
nujabes [3k\]: j5 always has been a threat
hobajons [-\]: no k5 is alive
wskb [6k\]: a3 gave two ko threats
]
;B[rl]C[nujabes [3k\]: makin the pas exchanges wouldnt have changed it
DeadTired [2d\]: k5 can be threatened
wskb [6k\]: b5 just 1
hobajons [-\]: but n10 sente
hobajons [-\]: and big
DeadTired [2d\]: so n10 for the threat?
hobajons [-\]: yes
nujabes [3k\]: also n5  instead of m6 would have been better
Le34 [-\]: yy
hobajons [-\]: wel
hobajons [-\]: no
hobajons [-\]: actualy
despot [1k\]: n10 not so great, because p11 o9 etc first, no?
hobajons [-\]: beacue then o9 results in bad stuff
hobajons [-\]: shortage of libs
nujabes [3k\]: and w can't win this ko
despot [1k\]: hmm unless p11 not sente here
Blondin [5k\]: n10/l13 /k8 even^^
johnny [6k\]: s6
Waterlie [4k?\]: e16 or f15, no?
adads: there is s6 and l13
despot [1k\]: waterlie, not unless b is already dead :P
SuiKage [2d\]: w wont n10 because of n10 p11 o11 o9 p10 p9 
USGO3 [-\]: severe net lag.. recording offline.. will catch up after
Waterlie [4k?\]: ah k
martin3141 [-\]: isn't black dead after j5?
despot [1k\]: no he can l9
despot [1k\]: with or without n10 first
]
;W[io]
;B[nk]
;W[ok]
;B[mj]
;W[ni]C[martin3141 [-\]: right
]
;B[kk]
;W[sl]
;B[al]
;W[am]
;B[rl]
;W[rh]
;B[rg]
;W[sl]C[Malingo [5d\]: d16 dead?
]
;B[cf]C[DeadTired [2d\]: yes
]
;W[bg]
;B[rl]
;W[sj]C[wuwei [4k\]: and yet, they keep playing...
Malingo [5d\]: why not resign?
Horibe [2d\]: I thought it was seki
]
;B[si]
;W[sl]C[SuiKage [2d\]: if d16 is dead doesn't w have a huge lead?
RiFLoK [5k\]: not dead
wuwei [4k\]: is is seki
despot [1k\]: yeah maybe b misread it, I thought it was a seki at first
wuwei [4k\]: it*
]
;B[oo]
;W[sn]C[Le34 [-\]: seki
USGO3 [-\]: black resigns here
despot [1k\]: well here we go
JeansebL [6d?\]: Good job dan !!!
houloulou [1k\]: nice !!
JeansebL [6d?\]: good revenge :p
Malingo [5d\]: big eye vs small eye
USGO3 [-\]: thanks for watching
flytox [?\]: nice !!!
climbtrees [6k\]: ty ty players and scribe
DeadTired [2d\]: ty usgo
despot [1k\]: ty scribe, and gg players :)
Waterlie [4k?\]: houlala c'était chaud
jivablitz [1d\]: seki?
adads: thx usgo
basilika: no seki its dead
flytox [?\]: thk's for the game
SuiKage [2d\]: yeah it's dead
replicator [2d\]: big eye vs small eye
replicator [2d\]: dead
USGO3 [-\]: final match tonight at 4pm pacific (about 2 1/2 hours from now) between Calvin Sun and Bill Lin
jivablitz [1d\]: oh wow
johnny [6k\]: a great day to be snowed-in in St Louis!
SuiKage [2d\]: go calvin!
SuiKage [2d\]: is it bo3? does w have a lead because he beat bill before?
])
