(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[2nd AGA Professional Qualification - Lu (w)  Lui (b)]PW[Andrew Lu]PB[Eric lui]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2014-01-04]RO[3B]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dave Dows]RE[W+8.50]
;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[pp]
;W[dq]
;B[dn]
;W[co]
;B[cf]
;W[fc]
;B[bd]
;W[nc]
;B[qf]
;W[cc]
;B[ci]
;W[kd]C[Itachi4x4 [15k?\]: a
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;B[eq]C[bbred [4k\]: w lost?
Justin9202 [18k\]: game is still going on
Justin9202 [18k\]:  every move that is placed the scribes are waiting for a move to be placed so they can play the move on the board for everyone
]
;W[ep]
;B[fp]C[laduradura [8d\]: I cheer for the good old thepianist:)
HKA [2d\]: so, if white connects, black will f5?  if white plays e5, black connects?
]
;W[eo]C[sedgwick [?\]: after e5 b would d2 more likely i think
HKA [2d\]: thanks James, did not think of that
HKA [2d\]: looks good
Justin9202 [18k\]: wouldnt that just put his stone in atari sedgwick
sedgwick [?\]: yes, sacrifice
sedgwick [?\]: gives cut at d4
Justin9202 [18k\]: eh true
]
;B[dr]C[sedgwick [?\]: this sequene is the aim after e6 c5 exchange
HKA [2d\]: seems like a good plan for black
Justin9202 [18k\]: okay
sedgwick [?\]: yes, I like black here
bbred [4k\]: yea, w played too slow
sedgwick [?\]: I uess for me insated of e5 i would conect d4, but let's see white's plan:)
HKA [2d\]: so loser here is done, winner goes to a best of three?
Herod [-\]: It is a double elimination tournament
Herod [-\]: Two losses and out
HKA [2d\]: I am aware, but some of the matches are not just one game
kadoban [-\]: looks like it from the pairings page. the table is a bit hard to understand though
HKA [2d\]: I agree, which is why I ask
Goprince [5d\]: w jus missed d2 :)
Justin9202 [18k\]: personally i feel tahts too few
Herod [-\]: I think they made it look more complicated than it is
Justin9202 [18k\]:  in japan and china i believe it is a seven gamme thing you play
sedgwick [?\]: i think winner go to another single elimination game, the 3 game match seems to be only on the winnner side of the draw
Justin9202 [18k\]:  loose 4 and you are out of the running
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;W[cq]C[HKA [2d\]: but that is one on one Justin, not 8 players
Justin9202 [18k\]: all 8 are playing eachother at the same time? 
HKA [2d\]: no, they play one person at a time
]
;B[fq]C[HKA [2d\]: round robin simul would be chaos
]
;W[cn]C[kadoban [-\]: haha, yeah that kind of thing only happens on like dragon go server, not live
Justin9202 [18k\]: i always heard they played round robin with all players playing a single oponent
Justin9202 [18k\]:  but the all have them in the same room
HKA [2d\]: these guys are all in the same room in California
kadoban [-\]: no, i doubt that's ever been done justin...it'd be quite strange
]
;B[mq]C[ugo2: c6 looks small to me?
Justin9202 [18k\]: hmmm
Justin9202 [18k\]:  i bet
kadoban [-\]: simuls are only for teaching and exhibitions, that kind of thing
Justin9202 [18k\]:  anyway i need a lot more experience before i take the pro exam for america
Justin9202 [18k\]:  and I will become a pro, no way am i not going to allow myself to
HKA [2d\]: good luck, I hope you are pretty young
Justin9202 [18k\]: im 19
Justin9202 [18k\]:  but that isnt going to stop me
HKA [2d\]: black in this game was 3 dan at age 6
Roosta [1k\]: it probably will
Justin9202 [18k\]: no, I wont allow it to stop me
Justin9202 [18k\]:  i will get my 1dan by the end of the year
Roosta [1k\]: unfortunately, there's more to it than that
Herod [-\]: will this be before or after the career as linebacker in the NFL?
HKA [2d\]: can we agree that d6 has done some good work
kadoban [-\]: sure seems like it
Justin9202 [18k\]: i hae never wanted to play footbal herod
sedgwick [?\]: yes:)
Roosta [1k\]: I can agree to that, but it's like it's not there anymore
Justin9202 [18k\]: id agree
Roosta [1k\]: how long have you been playing, justin?
Justin9202 [18k\]: i started playing regularly about 2 months ago
yorugua [6k\]: I bet Justin watched Hikaru No Go last year ;)
LAhvac [6k\]: if w's r6 and than black pincers... could white invade the lower right corner and live without a ko?
Justin9202 [18k\]:  i play a lot of free games with higher level players
pwaldron [-\]: is it my imagination or is white falling a half-step behind here?
Justin9202 [18k\]:  yes white can live in lower corner
Justin9202 [18k\]: white is playing super slow
Justin9202 [18k\]:  he needs to play a really good move here to catch up
yorugua [6k\]: lol
Justin9202 [18k\]:  say maybe trying to make a base on the right, or doing something interesting liek k3
Justin9202 [18k\]:  something the opponent wouldnt expect is usually one of my favorite tries
Justin9202 [18k\]: personally i would try to attack to build a lot more influence 
kadoban [-\]: there's not really anything that looks attackable at the moment for white
Roosta [1k\]: r9
SpiritFox [2d?\]: both of these guys can supply a surprise
Justin9202 [18k\]: by the way i hope me starting playing regularly only 2 months ago is okay progression for my level
Justin9202 [18k\]: but white needs the points more spiritfox
kadoban [-\]: i wouldn't worry about it justin, just study and play and see where it takes you
Justin9202 [18k\]: i think maybe r9, or r8
nickBlake [?\]: I'd worry, if you don't make 1d in the first year you have to quit forever. Those are the rules.
Justin9202 [18k\]:  something to build a base on that side and threatene
kadoban [-\]: :(
Roosta [1k\]: it's reasonable progression, but reaching pro level after starting at 19 is literally unheard of
Justin9202 [18k\]: I will become a pro>=)\] 
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(;W[iq]C[Justin9202 [18k\]: well Roosta you will see it happen 
])
(;W[qk]C[HKA [2d\]: Lets not make this about Justin, I hope his efforts in this game are of benefit to him and the group, but lets talk about the game
Justin9202 [18k\]:  i have to in order to become a kisei and beat shusaku sensei
Herod [-\]: Thank you HKA
Justin9202 [18k\]: lol
Roosta [1k\]: I wonder why the scribe clicked j3
pwaldron [-\]: R5?
Justin9202 [18k\]: misclick maybe
Loxios [1d\]: or drunk 
Justin9202 [18k\]:  i think r5 rusn the risk of geting pincered
Justin9202 [18k\]: i would play a little safer
Justin9202 [18k\]:  and then attack
Herod [-\]: Probably sitting at a diagonal angle on the board
Justin9202 [18k\]: play a safe move and attack like r6 maybe
Roosta [1k\]: r6 slack
nickBlake [?\]: he means R5 for black, to secure the corner..
kadoban [-\]: anything farther than r5 leaves the corner vulnerable
Justin9202 [18k\]: true he can secure the corner
Roosta [1k\]: r11 r6 r4 possible
Justin9202 [18k\]:  but nick, is the corner really worth that much right now?
nickBlake [?\]: a lot
kadoban [-\]: i don't think white would play r6 in answer to r11
yorugua [6k\]: 20 pts
Justin9202 [18k\]: i would beg to differ 
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;B[qi]C[Justin9202 [18k\]:  i would say building a good solid base would be best
nickBlake [?\]: Eric played his psycho double wing thing yesterday though leaving his corner awful, im surprised he didnt do that again today
Justin9202 [18k\]:  now is r6 maybe
yorugua [6k\]: r6 pretty much forced
kadoban [-\]: oh was that in the second game? i missed that
nickBlake [?\]: yea haha, he had a hoshi with two large knights moves
Justin9202 [18k\]: white might just have to run here and go for influence, no?
Roosta [1k\]: only alternative to r6 would be s4
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;W[qp]C[sedgwick [?\]:  b can be happy taking r5 after w r6
Roosta [1k\]: ooo or that
yorugua [6k\]: wow
kadoban [-\]: hehe
sedgwick [?\]: so white try for something different
kadoban [-\]: yeah, r6 would be too easy on black imo
kadoban [-\]: he gets everything that way
Justin9202 [18k\]: always fun to try something interesting
Roosta [1k\]: b will surely hane on the outside?
Justin9202 [18k\]:  now white has a weakness though with the extention
kadoban [-\]: i would assume so roosta
Justin9202 [18k\]:  he should try to fix that if hte gets the chance
yorugua [6k\]: does w get the corner then? if b r5
bolbi [-\]: "he should"…
Justin9202 [18k\]: white might get the corner
Roosta [1k\]: I would expect r5 s5
Justin9202 [18k\]:  3-3's can get interesting
Justin9202 [18k\]: me too
bolbi [-\]: Justin9202: please don't flood
HKA [2d\]: 3-3s are my life
kadoban [-\]: hehe
nickBlake [?\]: I'm suprised you don't play them in every open corner Keith
HKA [2d\]: who says I don't?
nickBlake [?\]: We'll you didnt against me at least haha
nickBlake [?\]: Maybe you have upgraded a bit
kadoban [-\]: iirc you only played one against me last we played
HKA [2d\]: did not know that was you Josh, lots of friends here today
kadoban [-\]: hi keith :)
Roosta [1k\]: I wonder what other options b is considering
HKA [2d\]: this is a good move by white, my 3-3 proclivities would give him good shape I think
HKA [2d\]: still r3 is big
kadoban [-\]: i don't think he'd seriously be considering much except r5...maybe just reading out the possibilities after that
Roosta [1k\]: it's big, but it seems too much like what w wants
nickBlake [?\]: r9 is in the idea spot for the normal r3 -> r5 continuation though
nickBlake [?\]: too friendly
backpack1 [2d\]: r5
HKA [2d\]: perhaps r3 is ok with r 11 in place
LAhvac [6k\]: even if it goes like this: r3 r5 q3 q5 .... there is a defect r7 
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;B[qq]C[kadoban [-\]: hmm, shows what i know
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;W[qo]
;B[rq]C[HKA [2d\]: with the pressure stone, LAhvac is right, the shape is a little thin for white
nickBlake [?\]: r7 is not much of a defect after q5. s3 takes the base and makes it riskier
nickBlake [?\]: but white can be faster now
]
;W[po]
;B[op]C[HKA [2d\]: I think honte is p9
nickBlake [?\]: i wonder if he will protect or be a psycho and just leave it knowing he will live
nickBlake [?\]: I agree Keith
nickBlake [?\]: possible o6 as well? if black gets to pressure from that direction his bottom grows quite a bit
HKA [2d\]: then black can choose between developing the bottom or q18
]
;W[ok]C[LAhvac [6k\]: HKA, how would you develope it? By playing g6 ?
HKA [2d\]: well, g6 is probably good, I would be more conservative because I am pathetic
nickBlake [?\]: modest too
Loxios [1d\]: g6 and w invade for sure, i would k4 
Loxios [1d\]: but g6 may be proper
HKA [2d\]: Loxios, that is what I would do, so I have second hand insulted you
Justin9202 [18k\]: i was thinking the same thing with the k4
kadoban [-\]: it'd be nicer if there was more weakness on the white group on the right to poke at
sedgwick [?\]: g6 seems to lack imact on w
Loxios [1d\]: :)
LAhvac [6k\]: black/white... g6 is my guess for the nest move
bbred [4k\]: h16?
HKA [2d\]: I am thinking q18 myself
pwaldron [-\]: seems tough to find a good move at the bottom...I'd take q18 and aim for J17 later
nickBlake [?\]: Id probably play j18
nickBlake [?\]: q18*
nickBlake [?\]: cash for life
HKA [2d\]: eric is patient in odd number rounds
kadoban [-\]: not sure i like g6, it seems a bit like it's pretending to be sente but not really doing much
kadoban [-\]: he was super patient in the first round, that was quite impressive
sandbag [4d\]: i guess q18 and then fight on the lower side
sedgwick [?\]: g6 w will m4, is the exchange good fr b?
nickBlake [?\]: right up until he was in one period of 40 for like half the game
Justin9202 [18k\]:  not really good for b 
kadoban [-\]: seems less than satisfying for black, that exchange
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;B[ic]C[HKA [2d\]: wow, I would have def q18 before coming in
kadoban [-\]: interesting. i thought that was too early
]
;W[jc]C[HKA [2d\]: he has to fear the forcing moves on the d line, so maybe q18 would miss the chance
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;B[ie]
;W[pc]
;B[qc]
;W[qb]
;B[oc]
;W[pb]
;B[od]
;W[ob]
;B[rc]C[Roosta [1k\]: this game has felt like very textbook fuseki
LAhvac [6k\]: How you deal with j17 j15 formation? Do you wedge-in?
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;W[dh]
;B[ch]
;W[df]C[kadoban [-\]: probably not wedge in, that seems to maybe help black possibly attack the corner
Roosta [1k\]: c15 seems natural
Justin9202 [18k\]: should white try maybe b8 or b9?
]
;B[ce]C[q15p17r14 [2d\]: White may play c9 later, but since c5 is strong and c9 does not cover that much territory, I don't think he will play around there for a while
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;W[jf]C[Justin9202 [18k\]: okay thanks
kadoban [-\]: hmm, cool. i thought white would answer on the left first, but i guess that loses this chance
HKA [2d\]: yes, if hite answered, black would jump an it would look overish
bbred [4k\]: time for the funnnnn!
Loxios [1d\]: i would play g13 
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;B[gc]
;W[fd]C[Justin9202 [18k\]: i dont think he wants to surround too early
backpack1 [2d\]: h13
Justin9202 [18k\]:  it isnt garenteed just yet that those stones are dead 
]
;B[gd]C[backpack1 [2d\]: g16 is so slow
backpack1 [2d\]: w can j14 now
Roosta [1k\]: j14 does seem lovely
HKA [2d\]: yes, but wouldn't h18 then be lively?
kadoban [-\]: sure seems periliously close to alive then
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;W[ip]C[HKA [2d\]: well, well done white, black is no longer coasting
kadoban [-\]: ah, hmm...this way white can decide if he wants to set black running on the top or just fix shape
HKA [2d\]: the center seems slightly, only slightly favorable for white, but, yeah, directing the fight there seems to make sense
HKA [2d\]: last time I captured Eric he was six
]
(;B[bc]
;W[bb]C[HKA [2d\]: well, Eric is not impressed
laduradura [8d\]: well,cen you capture with 1 move?
])
(;B[cr]
;W[br]C[kadoban [-\]: haha
laduradura [8d\]: lifetime masterpiece?
HKA [2d\]: no, my lifetime masterpiece was a lost to Huiren Yang
Argus [4k?\]: i was wondering about b18.. looked like bad move
HKA [2d\]: wierd typo by the way
kadoban [-\]: oh the top didn't happen? odd
Argus [4k?\]: recorder messed up on the corner
SpiritFox [2d?\]: so is this the correct board?
HKA [2d\]: both moves were 2-3 and responded to
HKA [2d\]: still strange
Argus [4k?\]: idk, but it makes more sense to me
HKA [2d\]: spent a lot of brain power making theother make sense
HKA [2d\]: and it looked like the 8d was on board...
bbred [4k\]: f5?
HKA [2d\]: some aji now with b3 and d4 
HKA [2d\]: not activatable yet of course
kadoban [-\]: i so wouldn't respond to c2 i don't think...but i guess the hane is extremely satisfying
HKA [2d\]: but that does put d6 "back on the board"
Argus [4k?\]: b is now stronger to attack j4
Argus [4k?\]: b2 keeps it not tot alive
kadoban [-\]: black must play on the bottom it seems, not sure where though
blitztrain [2d\]: h13
kadoban [-\]: don't think i live black playing on top, but probably depends if white can kill...which i don't think he can
kadoban [-\]: don't think i like*
LAhvac [6k\]: h18 for black? could make an eye
Argus [4k?\]: maybe w wants to start fight w j4 to attack top black?
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;B[fn]
;W[lq]C[kadoban [-\]: f6 interesting, brings back some of the corner aji if white pushes through
]
;B[lp]
;W[kp]C[HKA [2d\]: ok, did they break for dinner and not tell us?
HKA [2d\]: I mean lunch
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;B[pl]
;W[ql]C[Herod [-\]: The scribe will inform when there is a break
Herod [-\]: Usually around hour 3
harleyyy: hi
harleyyy: i have a question, what is this AGA pro qualification?
harleyyy: the winner will get pro status?
kadoban [-\]: yes
kadoban [-\]: of the tournament, not this game
harleyyy: really?
harleyyy: is that aproved by japan too and so?
oren [4k\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2013
kadoban [-\]: no, why would it be?
oren [4k\]: Korea Baduk Association
Argus [4k?\]: japan?
Argus [4k?\]: this is AGA
]
;B[kq]C[oren [4k\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-system
Argus [4k?\]: A = American
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;W[lr]C[harleyyy: yes but, he gets 1p aga, will be good like a chinese 1p?
Argus [4k?\]: depends on the game i guess
kadoban [-\]: only time will tell
HKA [2d\]: or the person
harleyyy: and, can he enter on chinese pro games?
harleyyy: tournament
oren [4k\]: Gansheng was allowed to enter a Korean pro tournament
HKA [2d\]: our pros can play in Korean events
]
;B[jp]C[HKA [2d\]: and we are discussing with China
harleyyy: this sounds cool
HKA [2d\]: no agreement yet however
harleyyy: so AGA is on progress
HKA [2d\]: so is the game
harleyyy: ;)
]
;W[ko]
;B[jq]
;W[mp]
;B[lo]
;W[mo]
;B[ln]
;W[nq]C[SpiritFox [2d?\]: Unless I have the wrong guy,  Andrew already has a rating of 1P outside AGA
HKA [2d\]: Andrew Liu?
Argus [4k?\]: u sure?
]
;B[or]C[nickBlake [?\]: Are you thinking of Matthew Hu?
Argus [4k?\]: i don't think so, but what do i know
SpiritFox [2d?\]: Think so
]
;W[jo]C[Argus [4k?\]: i think he's only 17
Argus [4k?\]: and just moved up to 7 dan
]
;B[iq]C[HKA [2d\]: Mathew Hu is China certified, Andy is US certified
SpiritFox [2d?\]: Whups... Andy Liu,  sory about that.
Argus [4k?\]: yes
Argus [4k?\]: not Lu
SpiritFox [2d?\]: My mistake  :(
]
;W[mn]C[Argus [4k?\]: he'll get there tho!
]
;B[lm]
;W[jm]C[SpiritFox [2d?\]: so far, he is playing a great game
Argus [4k?\]: his games are always exciting to watch
]
;B[jl]
;W[il]
;B[kl]
;W[hn]
;B[ik]
;W[hp]
;B[hq]
;W[hl]
;B[hk]
;W[gl]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[nm]
;W[nn]
;B[nr]
;W[mr]
;B[pm]C[kadoban [-\]: i didn't think this worked...hmm
SpiritFox [2d?\]: does not look too good for white just now
kadoban [-\]: indeed
]
;W[nl]C[agakenny [5d?\]: Q6 
]
;B[qm]
;W[pk]C[Justin9202 [18k\]: maybe white might want to build a better framework to the upper left side
]
;B[rn]
;W[mm]C[kadoban [-\]: the only problem with that is that black has a group in white's framework still...and some thickness outside now too
]
;B[fo]
;W[gk]C[Argus [4k?\]: who's going to take Q6?
kadoban [-\]: probably nobody for now
]
;B[mk]C[Argus [4k?\]: i guess its not that big any more
]
;W[pn]C[kadoban [-\]: hah...or i'm wrong
]
;B[ro]
;W[rp]
;B[sp]
;W[oi]
;B[mh]C[Argus [4k?\]: s12
]
;W[oq]
;B[pq]
;W[ns]
;B[ps]
;W[sq]C[Lsugyen [6d\]: nice move!
]
;B[sr]C[Lsugyen [6d\]: now S9 is sente
Lsugyen [6d\]: S12 becomes severe
]
;W[rh]C[USGO5 [-\]: the players will be adjourning for lunch, the next move will be sealed
Lsugyen [6d\]: come on1
Argus [4k?\]: argh
USGO5 [-\]: they will return in one hour
xDragon [?\]: freedom!
xDragon [?\]: are they back?
HKA [2d\]: all I know is you are
xDragon [?\]: im glad to know im back
profan [-\]: what's time server in other game
profan [-\]: they same game will resume at 1.15
profan [-\]: *they say
xDragon [?\]: board 1 should resume in 5-10 minutes
xDragon [?\]: its pacific time usa
]
;B[qh]
;W[ri]
;B[rg]C[xDragon [?\]: freedom! again!
gogonuts [5d\]: w s9?
]
;W[rl]
;B[rs]C[gogonuts [5d\]: wasnt s9 better?
]
;W[qj]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: its worse if white wants to live directly, right?
indianayk [4d\]: i think s10 is still beter
gogonuts [5d\]: you could be right
gogonuts [5d\]: if w needs to add a move for eyes better like this
backpack1 [2d\]: w lives
]
;B[sh]
;W[rm]C[gogonuts [5d\]: y, obvious life now
cricket6: can w tenuki now?
cricket6: b
]
;B[je]
;W[ke]
;B[kf]
;W[if]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: looks like a tough game for white
gogonuts [5d\]: really?
]
;B[hf]C[gogonuts [5d\]: i take w
]
;W[hg]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: interesting
]
;B[gf]
;W[kg]
;B[lf]C[HKA [2d\]: I have no idea
HKA [2d\]: but when I am rooting for black, it helps to know that the 2d is stronger than he looks
]
;W[ki]
;B[ig]
;W[jg]
;B[ih]
;W[ii]
;B[lg]
;W[hh]
;B[lc]C[Argus [4k?\]: wow
]
;W[id]
;B[hd]
;W[lb]
;B[mb]
;W[mc]
;B[kb]
;W[ld]
;B[la]
;W[jb]
;B[nb]C[gogonuts [5d\]: road to nowhere here for w ...
]
;W[he]
;B[ge]
;W[jd]
;B[de]
;W[ee]
;B[ef]
;W[ff]
;B[eg]
;W[fe]
;B[gg]
;W[fg]
;B[gh]
;W[hi]
;B[fh]
;W[eh]
;B[dg]
;W[he]C[agakenny [5d?\]: F18
gogonuts [5d\]: ur pure profit for b
]
;B[lj]
;W[kc]
;B[fb]
;W[ec]
;B[eb]
;W[db]
;B[bb]
;W[ea]
;B[gb]
;W[bc]
;B[lb]
;W[me]
;B[nf]
;W[ja]
;B[ac]
;W[cd]
;B[cb]
;W[be]C[Argus [4k?\]: ko
Argus [4k?\]: ?
backpack1 [2d\]: huge ko
]
;B[ca]
;W[ad]
;B[da]
;W[dc]C[gogonuts [5d\]: b misread
gogonuts [5d\]: m18 was also bad
Deft1 [6k\]: a18 doesnt work?
]
;B[qn]
;W[rj]C[gogonuts [5d\]: then b14 makes an eye
Deft1 [6k\]: ah, of course
]
;B[ne]
;W[md]
;B[rb]
;W[ka]C[Argus [4k?\]: b13 bigger eye
]
;B[cl]C[tiger [3d\]: not really
]
;W[cs]
;B[es]
;W[fj]
;B[ej]
;W[ek]C[Neo: a
]
;B[ei]
;W[ab]
;B[bm]
;W[bp]
;B[kr]
;W[nj]
;B[mi]
;W[ba]
;B[bf]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]
;W[dj]
;B[di]
;W[pg]
;B[qg]
;W[oh]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: very close
Tabemasu [2d?\]: w will probably win i guess
Meepy [-\]: i think w won 
]
;B[mf]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: the yose seems better for white
xDragon [?\]: jianing gan defeated calvin sun by resignation
agakenny [5d?\]: b lost a lot in yose
]
;W[om]
;B[qa]
;W[na]
;B[bn]
;W[bo]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: yeah, i don't think b can turn it around
]
;B[pf]
;W[kj]C[Smochi [-\]: close
]
;B[jk]C[sedgwick [?\]: j18 big right?
]
;W[kn]C[flurpel [2d\]: yes
Tabemasu [2d?\]: about 4 points?
]
;B[km]C[rekin2 [6k?\]: w 3~5 points ahead
sedgwick [?\]: m9?
]
;W[in]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: doesn't work
Tabemasu [2d?\]: l6 seems like a mistake
sedgwick [?\]: oh, sorry, silly illusion:)
Tabemasu [2d?\]: its ok, i had it too :)
]
;B[ib]
;W[gp]C[DonValley [5d\]: w l1
DonValley [5d\]: or not
ghfhfghfgg: why not m9?
Tabemasu [2d?\]: m9 l9
sedgwick [?\]: and b l9
]
;B[gq]
;W[af]C[tathan [5k?\]: m9 get captured - loses a point
ghfhfghfgg: ic
ghfhfghfgg: ty
]
;B[ag]C[HKA [2d\]: well, if white knows he is ahead he will connect
]
;W[ae]C[rekin2 [6k?\]: sente fow w
]
;B[cj]
;W[of]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: so close now
]
;B[oe]C[HKA [2d\]: yeah, my count is really close
]
;W[og]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: if w loses, l6 was the losing move
]
;B[ng]C[MajorTom [3d\]: i think w wins
]
;W[li]C[sedgwick [?\]: yes, seems w win
]
;B[mj]
;W[ml]
;B[lk]
;W[cm]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: yeah
cranium [2d\]: trolololololol im back
]
;B[dm]
;W[ie]
;B[pi]C[sedgwick [?\]: a9 cuts with ko?
germgo [-\]: a9 a10
Tabemasu [2d?\]: a9 a10 i think
sedgwick [?\]: oh, yes
]
;W[si]
;B[sg]
;W[lh]C[Tabemasu [2d?\]: maybe a7 is the tesuji
sedgwick [?\]: a9, a10,, a7?
Tabemasu [2d?\]: you can play it directly
]
;B[nh]C[germgo [-\]: a7 same result as a6
Tabemasu [2d?\]: but you don't gain anything
Tabemasu [2d?\]: yeah
Tabemasu [2d?\]: haha
DonValley [5d\]: when is this a9 stuff?
sedgwick [?\]: yes, but I guess white doesn't need it:)
herissondu [4d\]: but it's a nice move^^
]
;W[an]C[fatih [3d\]: a8?
fatih [3d\]: instead of a6?
Tabemasu [2d?\]: then a9
DrwsyClown: a8 b8
herissondu [4d\]: a8 b8 
]
;B[bl]
;W[en]C[fatih [3d\]: a8 b8 b13?
herissondu [4d\]: doesn't work
germgo [-\]: a8 a9
herissondu [4d\]: w will be atari
flurpel [2d\]: ya
]
;B[fm]C[DrwsyClown: lol right
]
;W[dl]C[fatih [3d\]: it is too late, even with view offline i cant see how b8 defends
DrwsyClown: b8 doesnt
fatih [3d\]: time to sleep i guess
]
;B[em]
;W[ks]C[blitztrain [2d\]: who is wiining?
]
;B[js]
;W[sm]C[DonValley [5d\]: oh.. a6 is best move locally
herissondu [4d\]: b8 doesn't
herissondu [4d\]: :-)
]
;B[so]C[DrwsyClown: I think a9 does work tho, against a8
fatih [3d\]: yep thx
herissondu [4d\]: a9 works, i'm sure
]
;W[ls]C[saxo [3d\]: not that well
DonValley [5d\]: a9 a10
sedgwick [?\]: and then a7
DrwsyClown: then connect b13
herissondu [4d\]: i meant a8 a9
sedgwick [?\]: a9, a10, a7, and b cannt cut without a ko
]
;B[ir]C[ttomgan: w won
DonValley [5d\]: wait w a9 or b a9
]
;W[ia]C[blitztrain [2d\]: a8 a9 a10 b13 
DonValley [5d\]: oh
DrwsyClown: a8 a9 a10 b13 is what i had in mind
DonValley [5d\]: best move for w is a6
blitztrain [2d\]: yes
rekin2 [6k?\]: and a7???
DrwsyClown: not a7
]
;B[ha]C[DonValley [5d\]: a7 is 1 point gote
]
;W[fa]C[DrwsyClown: a7 gives up sente
rekin2 [6k?\]: but a7 for b
rekin2 [6k?\]: after w a8
DrwsyClown: when?
blitztrain [2d\]: a8 a7 b13 
blitztrain [2d\]: or even a8 a7 b8 
Le34 [-\]: who win calvin sun or another dude?
herissondu [4d\]: a6 is ok you know
]
;B[am]
;W[ao]C[blitztrain [2d\]: anoother dude :P
herissondu [4d\]: gan jianing
DrwsyClown: a6 isnt just ok its pretty much the move locally
herissondu [4d\]: right :-)
sedgwick [?\]: seems tied on the board
herissondu [4d\]: omg a6 hand of go
herissondu [4d\]: d
]
;B[do]
;W[dp]C[xedover [?\]: recorder got lost.. the players are filling dame now
DrwsyClown: actually no
Herod [-\]: probably players moving fast and hard for scribe to keep pace
DrwsyClown: b8 instead of a6 is a ko for bigger
herissondu [4d\]: what are you saying clown?
DrwsyClown: well b8 b9 a9
redreoicy [3d\]: that is not a ko
herissondu [4d\]: then a8
DrwsyClown: then b13
redreoicy [3d\]: a12
herissondu [4d\]: doesn't work
rekin2 [6k?\]: recorder???
herissondu [4d\]: a9 is atari you know
DrwsyClown: hahaha right
DrwsyClown: ok
herissondu [4d\]: :-)
rsun [5d\]: is this round 2 or round 3?
herissondu [4d\]: round 3
Argus [4k?\]: 3
caglard [11k\]: hey recorder pay attention to your job
swinging [1k\]: relax, calgard
rekin2 [6k?\]: lol
herissondu [4d\]: respect the scribe
rekin2 [6k?\]: it isn't his job
rsun [5d\]: who won all games?
Merlot [1k\]: w leading a lot, game over
xedover [?\]: W+8.5
xDragon [?\]: gan beat calvin, lin beat li
herissondu [4d\]: gan jianing
Argus [4k?\]: xedover is that official?
xDragon [?\]: so li and now lui is eliminated?
USGO2 [-\]: White wins by 8.5 points
rekin2 [6k?\]: ok ty =)
Argus [4k?\]: thx
LAhvac [6k\]: thanks
Deft1 [6k\]: thanks!
Argus [4k?\]: good job Andrew
xDragon [?\]: so sun, gan, lin and lu are the final 4
rsun [5d\]: thx
queendrag [6k?\]: way to go lin
herissondu [4d\]: only 4 left?
herissondu [4d\]: so semi finals are best of 3?
DonValley [5d\]: 4 kids lol
xDragon [?\]: yeah. gan is the last undefeated
rsun [5d\]: it's a double elimination: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2013
DrwsyClown: well gan was 3rd place last time
DrwsyClown: the two ahead promoted to pros :P
herissondu [4d\]: i can't understand that system^^
xDragon [?\]: yes and lui was 4th
danzi [-\]: lol
xDragon [?\]: lu actually lost to calvin in round 1 so hes been trudging through the losers bracket
JesusTeAma [3k\]: herissondu you can't understand coz they made a poor excell table 
DrwsyClown: is there only one pro this time?
herissondu [4d\]: excell?
rsun [5d\]: has gan played sun yet?
DrwsyClown: yes and won, but I think its bo3
herissondu [4d\]: i am on the resluts page
herissondu [4d\]: and there are lines and vertical stuff
rsun [5d\]: they should have played 2 games by now
herissondu [4d\]: with colors and wierd names
JesusTeAma [3k\]: you already saw this ? http://www.eskimo.com/~wheelers/go/agapro/table.html
JesusTeAma [3k\]: oh, ok
rsun [5d\]: the one on usgo is more up to date
xedover [?\]: I can publish to the aga site, so I won't be updating my site anymore
herissondu [4d\]: yes i'm on this one
xDragon [?\]: xedover, gan vs sun is best of 3 o rnot
DrwsyClown: so us canadians will get two pros :O (bouhahaha, betting on gan)
Argus [4k?\]: so what does 1 A-D and 2 A-D etc mean?
Demon [2d\]: yes
xedover [?\]: yes, bo3
xDragon [?\]: ok i thouht so but everyone else kept saying no when i asked
JesusTeAma [3k\]: well, this table was made poorly
herissondu [4d\]: gan and sun wll play bo3?
xedover [?\]: the table is complicated
herissondu [4d\]: what about lin
xedover [?\]: read the rules
xDragon [?\]: and now andrew lu and bill lin will play a best of 3
rsun [5d\]: gan-sun played 2 out of 3 already
herissondu [4d\]: lol
herissondu [4d\]: "read the rules"
herissondu [4d\]: amazing
JesusTeAma [3k\]: doble elimination is just a way to give a second shot to the ones who lost 
xedover [?\]: 4B will be a single knockout game, because they players haven't previously played
JesusTeAma [3k\]: normally that kind of elimination is made on esports tornaments 
cranium [2d\]: trolololololol they will never catch me !
Argus [4k?\]: OK NFL FOOTBALL ON NOW
herissondu [4d\]: 4b is lu vs lin
herissondu [4d\]: and 4a gan vs sun
rsun [5d\]: what's taking them so long
USGO2 [-\]: last recorded move here -- W+8.5
herissondu [4d\]: omg i'm so smart i understood
Squiggles [1k\]: who are these guys on kgs again?
rsun [5d\]: thx
ThiGar [4k\]: Who are the 2 seeds from last year in this quaification?
rsun [5d\]: this page can answer 90% of your questions: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2013
JesusTeAma [3k\]: herissondu you are really smrt , unsdertand a doble elimination witt that table is nearly impossible
ThiGar [4k\]: thx, got it. It's Gan and Lui
Falcon89 [4k\]: Thi, I think they are Eric Lui n Gan Jianing
xedover [?\]: Gan and Sun will play their 2nd match tonight
xedover [?\]: Lin vs Lu will face off for a knockout tonight
Falcon89 [4k\]: ok  thx
xedover [?\]: oh, the seeds from last year.. I'm catching up on the chat :)
xedover [?\]: correct
])))
