(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[2nd AGA Pro  Qualifier Rnd 2 Bill Lin (W))vs. Calvin Sun (b)]PW[Bill Lin]PB[Calvin Sun]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2014-01-04]RO[2B]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/Puali]US[Richard Dolen]C[xDragon [?\]: this one should be good. bill lin vs calvin sun i presume
csgo [2d\]: no move yet
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dc]
;B[de]C[xDragon [?\]: who got which color?
]
;W[ce]
;B[cf]
;W[cd]
;B[fq]C[Schnapps [2k\]: Bill Lin is white and Calvin Sun is black
xDragon [?\]: yea he added it in the game bar but didnt put it in the game rules
xDragon [?\]: still says white and black
xDragon [?\]: ah there
]
;W[cn]
;B[dg]
;W[fc]
;B[ck]
;W[dr]
;B[jq]C[USGO2 [-\]: This is your scribe Richard Dolen
USGO2 [-\]: In this tournament the scribes are not allowed either to read or respond to your comments.
]
;W[qn]
;B[pk]C[dogbert [4d\]: winners group all 外战, loser gorup all 内战
]
;W[kp]
;B[jp]
;W[ko]C[dogbert [4d\]: winners group all external fight, loser group all internal fight, in case you wondering 
]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[nn]
;W[om]
;B[po]
;W[ok]
;B[oj]
;W[nk]
;B[pj]
;W[kq]
;B[jo]
;W[kn]
;B[nm]
;W[pl]
;B[lm]
;W[jn]
;B[fo]
;W[rp]C[herissondu [4d\]: k8 h6 j7 j6 g7 
herissondu [4d\]: or k8 j7 and idk what next
]
;B[qo]
;W[qk]
;B[qm]
;W[pn]
;B[ro]
;W[qj]C[Etheral [9k\]: What ranks are the players?
]
;B[rn]C[xDragon [?\]: 7d both
Etheral [9k\]: p or d?
xDragon [?\]: d. if they were p they wouldnt be in this tournament
]
;W[nj]C[Etheral [9k\]: sorry I don't really know what tournament it is , I just wanted to see a game with some stakes :)
xDragon [?\]: well the winner of this tournament becomes the third aga pro
Etheral [9k\]: that is awesome
xDragon [?\]: and $1500 cash
Nathan [2d\]: hmm i think i like b so far
]
;B[oh]
;W[ph]
;B[oi]C[Etheral [9k\]: i liked r12 more
xedover [?\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2013
]
;W[ql]
;B[pg]
;W[qg]
;B[qf]C[Demon [3d\]: go calvin!  :D
hobajons [-\]: calvin is gonna win
herissondu [4d\]: what's calvin's name on kgs?
Demon [3d\]: kbag
Cookies [?\]: calvinsun
herissondu [4d\]: aaaa so it's him
]
;W[rh]C[Etheral [9k\]: i would play n16 in a heartbreat to capitalize on the ladder...
]
;B[rg]
;W[qh]C[Demon [3d\]: what ladder?
]
;B[pf]C[Etheral [9k\]: the one that would come from connecting there
Demon [3d\]: if w cuts at p13, he's just making a heavygroup, not attacking much
Demon [3d\]: b doesn't need to play the ladder
Etheral [9k\]: see? 9k foolishness ^^
Etheral [9k\]: just to keep b running
herissondu [4d\]: ahah
]
;W[jk]C[herissondu [4d\]: there's a geta, bro
Demon [3d\]: also the net
herissondu [4d\]: because f the cut works it's good for w
Demon [3d\]: but even if there was nonet, just a heavy group made by w
Etheral [9k\]: so in essense better to wait until w center influence
Demon [3d\]: now the cut would be good if it worked with k9 stone being htere cutting off the connection towears m7 to make it rougher on the p11 group
Etheral [9k\]: yeah
]
;B[ek]
;W[jr]
;B[ir]
;W[lr]C[herissondu [4d\]: e9 is a strange choice
hobajons [-\]: ohd anbg
hobajons [-\]: o5
DonValley [5d\]: b in trouble here
hobajons [-\]: cut
hobajons [-\]: oh noes
nachodude [-\]: calvin is too good
hobajons [-\]: oui
xDragon [?\]: winner of this moves to sent finals to play best of 3 against the winner of usgo1 game
xDragon [?\]: semi*
]
;B[nr]C[nickBlake [?\]: If the tournament is double elim, why would the next round be best of three?
hobajons [-\]: o2 good move
xDragon [?\]: best of three between the two finalists in the winners bracket
]
;W[gp]C[herissondu [4d\]: ah, o2 good move?
herissondu [4d\]: i don't understand at all
nickBlake [?\]: i could see the grand finals being best of three, but why winners finals? whoever wins that will still need to play whoever makes it through the losers bracket
herissondu [4d\]: can he really attack l4 with this k4 weak group
quahog [4k\]: nick...you can read the rules and tournament format at:
quahog [4k\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2013
nickBlake [?\]: ah, they are all bo3, interesting
Tiracula [-\]: herissondu, o2 get the best endgame in the corner while protecting the o5 cut
]
;B[fp]C[herissondu [4d\]: ah, i didn't pay attenton to the cut
]
;W[hq]C[herissondu [4d\]: j3 is painful
herissondu [4d\]: ok, h3
]
;B[js]
;W[hr]
;B[ho]
;W[ks]
;B[kr]
;W[go]
;B[gn]
;W[jr]C[Etheral [9k\]: j6 stops the pain
CBlue [?\]: c3?
]
;B[do]
;W[co]
;B[kr]
;W[io]
;B[ip]
;W[hp]
;B[in]
;W[jr]
;B[cp]C[Tiracula [-\]: both players made ko even bigger ;p
]
;W[is]C[Schnapps [2k\]: It's weird that a game played to become pro end up with this huge ko
]
;B[dq]
;W[cq]C[cloudbrows [2k?\]: Why?
]
;B[ep]
;W[bp]
;B[dn]C[Schnapps [2k\]: Idk... My kyuish mind tells me that those kos only happen in blitz :D
]
;W[dp]
;B[dd]C[cloudbrows [2k?\]: Kos are a big part of many professional games.
Etheral [9k\]: Maybe to much blitz? :p
Etheral [9k\]: too *
Etheral [9k\]: is s10 endgame tesuji for B or am i misreading?
]
;W[cc]
;B[cp]C[yorugua [6k\]: I don't think s10 works
]
;W[lc]
;B[nc]C[Etheral [9k\]: here comes cut?
]
;W[dp]C[Herod [-\]: s10 s9 then what?
Etheral [9k\]: r11 
xDragon [?\]: then s11?
yorugua [6k\]: yeah, b has nothing
Etheral [9k\]: t12 
Etheral [9k\]: never mind
Etheral [9k\]: meh :p
]
;B[id]C[patrickn [2k\]: guessing bill lin is billin?
gunmanjoe [5d\]: yea
yorugua [6k\]: awesome guess
]
;W[le]C[patrickn [2k\]: i am smart
xDragon [?\]: calvin is kbag
gunmanjoe [5d\]: that reminds me..
patrickn [2k\]: kbag less obvious
yorugua [6k\]: looks like Calvin is Ming Jiu's student
]
;B[ne]C[CBlue [?\]: hm, let's see whether bill lin plays differently in tournament than in his kgs games ^^
]
;W[nb]C[dsaun [1k?\]: how much is komi?
]
;B[ob]C[Etheral [9k\]: 7,5
quahog [4k\]: aga rukes
quahog [4k\]: rules
dsaun [1k?\]: thanks
patrickn [2k\]: what is the logic behind aga rules getting 1 more komi
quahog [4k\]: won't make a difference in almost all games...  white has to play last...
Etheral [9k\]: the whites dislike the blacks winning so much lately? it is america after all ;D
]
;W[gf]
;B[kd]C[patrickn [2k\]: aga allows self capture also? or am i confused
]
;W[mc]C[quahog [4k\]: no
xDragon [?\]: NZ rules allow self capture
]
;B[nd]C[hobajons [-\]: that is so racist... etheral
patrickn [2k\]: oh... i want to see a NZ game where self capture comes into play
patrickn [2k\]: :)
]
;W[me]C[Etheral [9k\]: not from my part :p
hobajons [-\]: wtf
hobajons [-\]: whatever
xDragon [?\]: as far as i know, self capture has use for ko threats
xDragon [?\]: dont know of anywhere else
patrickn [2k\]: yeah
hobajons [-\]: l14
patrickn [2k\]: you can self capture to make dead eyeshape
patrickn [2k\]: etc
patrickn [2k\]: would be cool 
xDragon [?\]: yes. i have a feeling herod is going to tell us to focus on the game soon
]
;B[jf]C[Herod [-\]: Excellent guess, xDragon :-)
hobajons [-\]: lol
jowa [?\]: b ahead
hobajons [-\]: white could try k12 matbe
patrickn [2k\]: so both players are 1p?
]
;W[ng]C[Herod [-\]: both players are trying to be
xDragon [?\]: both players are 7d
]
;B[lg]C[xDragon [?\]: but trying to win this tournament so that theyll become 1p
hobajons [-\]: good shape move by black
USSRMan [3d\]: is bill 9d kgs?
hobajons [-\]: ya
yorugua [6k\]: 8d
xDragon [?\]: hes 8d right now but has been 9d before
USSRMan [3d\]: kgs name?
xDragon [?\]: calvin has been 9d before also
gunmanjoe [5d\]: billlin
USSRMan [3d\]: oh
patrickn [2k\]: billin lol
]
;W[ib]
;B[gd]C[Tiracula [-\]: not hard to be 9d at some point if your are 7d+
USSRMan [3d\]: that move was certainly fast
Tiracula [-\]: unless you are sume
Etheral [9k\]: he might
xDragon [?\]: http://www.eskimo.com/~wheelers/go/agapro/table.html - updated tournament table since its not on the AGA site
CBlue [?\]: it's hard if you have a solid rank
CBlue [?\]: ask kghin ^^
USSRMan [3d\]: white did not expect m13 i think
]
;W[fd]
;B[hb]C[xDragon [?\]: i wonder if kghin is the first 9d ~ ever
]
;W[jb]
;B[fb]
;W[eb]
;B[gc]
;W[fa]
;B[gb]
;W[ge]C[Etheral [9k\]: k15 looked nice when i played it out
]
;B[he]C[Etheral [9k\]: gone now
]
;W[na]
;B[oa]
;W[la]
;B[fe]
;W[kf]C[flurpel [2d\]: rip in peace clavin
yorugua [6k\]: rip in peace kind of redundant ;)
Etheral [9k\]: i think it is verb to rip
flurpel [2d\]: no it's not lol out loud
]
;B[jg]
;W[kg]C[flurpel [2d\]: wonder how long it takes to play at this level
]
;B[ee]C[Etheral [9k\]: depends completely on dedication and innate potential
]
;W[ec]C[ricedragon [1d\]: flurpel the god 
flurpel [2d\]: like CLG potential?
flurpel [2d\]: hmm
ricedragon [1d\]: more like MLG 
hobajons [-\]: pls take your trolling elsewhere flupel
hobajons [-\]: ;D
iwin [2k\]: flurpel is a troll
Tiracula [-\]: that hurt me in my doublelift
]
;B[jh]C[dsaun [1k?\]: b leading by 15pts? (by my bad counting)
USSRMan [3d\]: getting g15 cut was a disaster
USSRMan [3d\]: no where to counterattack
]
;W[gj]
;B[kh]C[flurpel [2d\]: would u say b has the adv USSR
flurpel [2d\]: i see thx USSR
USSRMan [3d\]: seems so
USSRMan [3d\]: both have 2 corners but black better potential
snhmib [8k\]: can b cut f10 from k9?
TitanPupil [1k\]: i think b can kill w inside?
]
;W[mg]
;B[mh]
;W[nh]C[TitanPupil [1k\]: n12 should be at m12?
USSRMan [3d\]: this is fine
nachodude [-\]: calvin so bright, that is why his last name is sun
TitanPupil [1k\]: lol
flurpel [2d\]: haha good one
snhmib [8k\]: did b just lose sente to attack in the middle?
flurpel [2d\]: b still has sente
snhmib [8k\]: he has to save his 5 stupid stones
USSRMan [3d\]: h doesnt have to save it
TitanPupil [1k\]: i still think n12 shouldve been at m12
snhmib [8k\]: oh
USSRMan [3d\]: universe wont explode or anything
]
;B[ni]
;W[mi]
;B[li]C[TitanPupil [1k\]: oooo
]
;W[lh]C[TitanPupil [1k\]: k
snhmib [8k\]: i don't get it
]
;B[hk]C[snhmib [8k\]: ah this i get, but why the ko?
USSRMan [3d\]: get what
TitanPupil [1k\]: to gain more than he loses
TitanPupil [1k\]: or not lose anything
flurpel [2d\]: this could be gg
hobajons [-\]: black won
USSRMan [3d\]: bill needs some 9d magic
flurpel [2d\]: the sun shines upon this game
]
;W[fm]
;B[fn]
;W[dm]
;B[fl]C[flurpel [2d\]: g8?
flurpel [2d\]: aw i am bad
]
;W[og]
;B[mh]
;W[mj]C[iwin [2k\]: yes
hobajons [-\]: tengen
flurpel [2d\]: nice move
TitanPupil [1k\]: this gives b a lot
dsaun [1k?\]: mmm, my earlier count all wrong now (even aasuming it was anything like right before) :-\\
]
;B[hj]
;W[cl]C[flurpel [2d\]: very solid w0w
]
;B[dk]
;W[im]C[TitanPupil [1k\]: !
flurpel [2d\]: yea w seems very behind now
USSRMan [3d\]: only 4 stones
Jermelle [-\]: kbag is killing it
]
;B[cp]C[flurpel [2d\]: USGO2 what are the times
flurpel [2d\]: ?
nachodude [-\]: he can't read or respond i believe
quahog [4k\]: 90 min basic 5x:40 
flurpel [2d\]: i'm asking the times left
flurpel [2d\]: thx tho quahog
]
;W[br]C[galacticgo [2k\]: anyone estimate score?
flurpel [2d\]: b+
]
;B[hn]
;W[em]
;B[hl]
;W[rf]
;B[re]
;W[sg]C[hobajons [-\]: b 96 w 71
flurpel [2d\]: not even close baby
gunmanjoe [5d\]: wait s14 that big
flurpel [2d\]: s8 ?
gunmanjoe [5d\]: isn't something like b9 bigger
hobajons [-\]: black up by ~20 points
]
;B[bf]C[flurpel [2d\]: ty hoba
]
;W[be]C[nachodude [-\]: np
gunmanjoe [5d\]: yw
]
;B[bk]C[hobajons [-\]: np
gunmanjoe [5d\]: thx
hobajons [-\]: i bet w resgins within 10 moves
flurpel [2d\]: wao mr sun is so cruel
gunmanjoe [5d\]: now's a good time http://postimg.org/image/v7dcc3vcp/ 
flurpel [2d\]: wat
nachodude [-\]: wat
Cookies [?\]: wat
gunmanjoe [5d\]: wat
]
;W[se]C[hobajons [-\]: wat
hobajons [-\]: w trying one last thing at s17
]
;B[rc]C[hobajons [-\]: q17 area
flurpel [2d\]: l0l
hobajons [-\]: guess not
flurpel [2d\]: this clavin
hobajons [-\]: calvin already knows he won
hobajons [-\]: gg
flurpel [2d\]: bill knows it too
]
;W[sc]
;B[sb]
;W[sd]C[flurpel [2d\]: they are smart individuals after all
]
;B[qb]
;W[bl]
;B[rl]C[USSRMan [3d\]: why s17
flurpel [2d\]: there is aji
USSRMan [3d\]: that was incomprehensible
flurpel [2d\]: not worth stressing over
hobajons [-\]: because he already won
flurpel [2d\]: yes
]
;W[af]C[Jermelle [-\]: lol
USSRMan [3d\]: no aji at all
]
;B[ag]
;W[ae]C[hobajons [-\]: no point in somehow messing up
flurpel [2d\]: maybe calvin is ayabot
hobajons [-\]: no aji lol?
]
;B[bg]C[flurpel [2d\]: want to win by .5
nachodude [-\]: calvin tried to win by .5 earlier but messed up and on;y won by 1.5
flurpel [2d\]: :(
Jermelle [-\]: LOL
]
;W[nq]
;B[oq]C[Jermelle [-\]: he didn't try to win by .5... he just did it xD
nachodude [-\]: you don't know that...
Jermelle [-\]: or do I o.o
flurpel [2d\]: no u dont
nachodude [-\]: you don't
Jermelle [-\]: I'll find out tommarow
]
;W[np]
;B[no]C[Jermelle [-\]: I play in the youth tournament part /o/ we'll meet
]
;W[mr]
;B[or]C[hobajons [-\]: calvin is my best friend
flurpel [2d\]: no he is mine
Sheriffi [-\]: and mine
hobajons [-\]: ok m8s
Jermelle [-\]: and mine o.o
jowa [?\]: true friends are made in your difficult times
]
;W[lh]
;B[kj]
;W[jj]
;B[ji]
;W[er]
;B[mh]
;W[oc]C[USSRMan [3d\]: this is 1991 all over again for white
]
;B[pc]
;W[lh]
;B[mp]
;W[mq]
;B[mh]C[flurpel [2d\]: what happened in 1991?
Jermelle [-\]: lol herod
flurpel [2d\]: his birth?
]
;W[iq]
;B[io]
;W[lh]C[Jermelle [-\]: no love allowed on KGS, new rule.
]
;B[mb]
;W[ma]
;B[mh]C[flurpel [2d\]: i think this is one of those difficult times
flurpel [2d\]: like the times w is facing now
Jermelle [-\]: LOL
flurpel [2d\]: b lead close to 15
]
;W[ke]C[flurpel [2d\]: maybe more
]
;B[je]
;W[lh]
;B[si]
;W[lf]
;B[fr]C[hobajons [-\]: close game...
]
;W[rk]
;B[sk]C[Jermelle [-\]: close?
]
;W[mo]C[flurpel [2d\]: in the not close kind of way
]
;B[gm]
;W[kk]
;B[mn]
;W[lo]
;B[ga]
;W[ea]C[nachodude [-\]: close, like me and calvin
]
;B[kc]
;W[kb]C[hobajons [-\]: dude he is cheating on u
hobajons [-\]: b+15
flurpel [2d\]: i called it!
hobajons [-\]: g7 was big
galacticgo [2k\]: the cheating or the score
hobajons [-\]: hehe
flurpel [2d\]: yes big sente for w
Jermelle [-\]: LOL
flurpel [2d\]: both i think
]
;B[ic]
;W[jc]
;B[jd]
;W[ak]
;B[aj]
;W[al]
;B[il]
;W[jm]C[hobajons [-\]: e6 big
flurpel [2d\]: n1 bigger?
hobajons [-\]: no
Jimmy3d [-\]: w0w this bag doe
Jimmy3d [-\]: b + ~3?
Jimmy3d [-\]: or did I miscount o.0
hobajons [-\]: no way you miscounted hard
USGO2 [-\]: Sorry,missed a few one-ointers.
USGO2 [-\]: White resigns.
flurpel [2d\]: yea you miscount really bad
galacticgo [2k\]: ggggg
flurpel [2d\]: thx USGO2
Jimmy3d [-\]: did I?
flurpel [2d\]: yea
Jimmy3d [-\]: I counted komi and stuff
flurpel [2d\]: you're off by like 10
Jimmy3d [-\]: damn I suck
dsaun [1k?\]: did you consider komi 7.5?
Jimmy3d [-\]: yeah
dsaun [1k?\]: thanks,USgo2
xDragon [?\]: bill will face the winner of the gourdeau/li game, calvin enters semifinals and faces winner of lui/gan game
USGO2 [-\]: Thanks for watching.
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