(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[2nd AGA Pro Quals - Eric Lui (w) vs Gan Jianing (b)]PW[Eric Lui]PB[Jianing Gan]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2014-01-04]EV[2nd AGA Professional Qualification Tournament]RO[2A]PC[Hotel Normandie, Los Angeles CA]US[Andrew Jackson]C[USGO1 [-\]: Hello and welcome to round 2 of the 2nd AGA Pro Qualification Tournament!
USGO1 [-\]: I'm andrew jackson and I'll be your game recorder this evening
Schnapps [2k\]: Hello
woodrose [1d\]: is it joseki?
USGO1 [-\]: This board will be Gan Jianing vs Eric Lui
HKA [2d\]: so the two seeds from last year already?
USGO1 [-\]: colors to be determined at nigiri, currently 5 minutes away
USGO1 [-\]: Complaints & suggestions about the pairings & folds can be directed to Jeff Shaevel :)
HKA [2d\]: not a complaint, merely and observation
xDragon [?\]: yeah hka. lui won the 1 v 8 game, jianing won the 4 v 5 game
xDragon [?\]: so theyre in second round of winners bracket
USGO1 [-\]: I'm under instructions to keep color commentary to a minimum, so please direct interested kibitzers to this information 
HKA [2d\]: I watched one of their games last year
USGO1 [-\]: or to the AGA website, which is available at http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2013
xDragon [?\]: the site isnt updated
USGO1 [-\]: the time controls are 1:30:00 for basic time
USGO1 [-\]: and 5 periods of :40 byo-yomi
USGO1 [-\]: we have about a dozen of us here in the Hotel Normandie
USGO1 [-\]: the jackhammers from the mornings construction are thankfully long gone
USGO1 [-\]: Both players are here and seated and we're waiting for the signal from the TD to begin
USGO1 [-\]: I recorded the end of Eric's 1st round game -- we should be in for a long one!
HKA [2d\]: whistle or semaphore?
USGO1 [-\]: smoke signals
USGO1 [-\]: the dinner break will be sometime around 7:00 pacific time
dft [-\]: Ready, Steady, GO
USGO1 [-\]: Jeff Shaevel is polling the players re: moving the evening games up to 4:00
USGO1 [-\]: it looks like that motion carries the day
USGO1 [-\]: expect that announcement to eventually propagate outwards.
USGO1 [-\]: ...more announcements.
HKA [2d\]: he does know tomorrow night will conflict with Downton Abbey...
HKA [2d\]: I mean Sunday night
USGO1 [-\]: Eric Lui takes a handful of black stones and Gan guesses wrong
USGO1 [-\]: ;)
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]C[xDragon [?\]: eric chose white?
]
;W[dd]C[HKA [2d\]: apparently
USGO1 [-\]: sorry; he guessed correctly
]
;B[qp]
;W[dq]
;B[oq]
;W[qj]
;B[co]
;W[dl]
;B[fo]C[HKA [2d\]: any other moves than g3?
]
;W[gq]
;B[cj]C[tymak [1k\]: this is double knockt-out tournament?
xDragon [?\]: double elimination yes
xDragon [?\]: these two are in winners bracket right now
]
;W[cg]C[xedover [?\]: The TD says, "That's why they invented TiVo"
]
;B[ej]
;W[do]
;B[dn]
;W[cp]C[Tiracula [-\]: old school fuseki
]
;B[eo]
;W[dp]
;B[cn]
;W[nc]
;B[qf]
;W[qm]
;B[lc]
;W[pb]
;B[qc]
;W[od]
;B[ic]
;W[pe]
;B[qe]
;W[pc]
;B[qd]
;W[gc]
;B[cc]
;W[cd]
;B[dc]
;W[ec]
;B[eb]
;W[fb]
;B[ed]
;W[fc]
;B[bd]
;W[be]
;B[bb]C[hobajons [-\]: is this live
xDragon [?\]: yeah
dogbert [4d\]: so far I like b's position, I think the lower left shape is good for b
Demon [3d\]: yeah it's alive
Demon [3d\]: maybe a ko if w chooses?
Tiracula [-\]: no, its ko if black chooses
redreoicy [2d\]: ko if black chooses yeah
Demon [3d\]: i haven'tcompletely read out the c15 cut
dogbert [4d\]: b has threats over lower left
]
;W[ee]C[Tiracula [-\]: a16 d19 is living shape
Tiracula [-\]: or black can choose to play a17 ko if he can win it
]
;B[ae]C[Demon [3d\]: a16, d19, a18?
Demon [3d\]: that doesn't seem like it would be living shape
Tiracula [-\]: b17
redreoicy [2d\]: a16 d19 a18 b17 a17 b19 c18 c15 
Tiracula [-\]: a16 d19 a18 b17 a17 b19 c18 a19 a15 c15 d15 c14 
redreoicy [2d\]: but anyway b would likely do the ko
Demon [3d\]: yeah
Demon [3d\]: all i knew was c15 cut seemed pretty easy for b, maybe w was debating to a16, e16 depending on if b played ko or not?  i dunno
]
;W[le]
;B[ie]
;W[ig]C[Tiracula [-\]: just keep caping all the stones
hobajons [-\]: g15
]
;B[kf]C[woodrose [1d\]: is gan jianing on kgs?
]
;W[kd]C[HKA [2d\]: what happened to the patient guy from last game?
Tabemasu [2d?\]: eric doesn't seem to be in good condition to me
quahog [4k\]: he played a 4 hour game...so he is either tired... or smelling blood
]
;B[kc]C[xDragon [?\]: his game vs gourdeau was a lot longer than the other ones, though it did include a 1 hour lunch brea
xDragon [?\]: k
]
;W[jd]
;B[id]C[xDragon [?\]: they had about 2 hours rest between rounds
HKA [2d\]: thought he played quite well in that game
Falcon89 [4k\]: he did an amazing cut
cherrysaur [-\]: How much time does each side have?
]
;W[jc]
;B[jb]C[Falcon89 [4k\]: 1.5 hr  5x0.40
]
;W[kb]
;B[lb]C[hobajons [-\]: i bet b m18 j18 l19 
hobajons [-\]: then h18 n16
]
;W[ib]
;B[ka]
;W[hb]C[hobajons [-\]: n15*
]
;B[nb]C[Falcon89 [4k\]: now  B  2 weak groups
sedgwick [?\]: one weak group:)
Renovate [?\]: Tru
Falcon89 [4k\]: now 1    :)
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: is there video of these games
Tiracula [-\]: 0 weak groups
]
;W[lf]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: j15 not weak?
yorugua [6k\]: j17 not weak?
hobajons [-\]: k14
hobajons [-\]: k13*
hobajons [-\]: jk
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: j15 not really cutting anything useful
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: blac may sacrifice
]
;B[hg]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: i suppose there is aji at te n16 area
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: seems heavy to save directly though
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: b may sacrifice for center influence maybe?
]
;W[hh]
;B[if]
;W[gg]C[dogbert [4d\]: m13?
Tiracula [-\]: connect
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: maybe K13 first
]
;B[lg]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: take!
tas6466 [5k?\]: i think b just wants to make things as complicated as possible
Tiracula [-\]: b playing with fire now
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: take would probably be suicidal
DaedDragon [3k\]: after h14 can cut at l13
DaedDragon [3k\]: and the power of the ponuki would dominate the center!
HolySmoke [1k\]: b leading a lot
DaedDragon [3k\]: (that is my considered 3k opinion)
]
;W[jg]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: darn
yorugua [6k\]: looks like b is cut
]
;B[ke]C[Tiracula [-\]: just give up the 3
]
;W[ld]
;B[kg]C[Tiracula [-\]: or not...
DonValley [5d\]: why would u give up 3 ^__^
Tiracula [-\]: for the influences
tas6466 [5k?\]: or give up... you know... 50 points thats cool too
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: this suddenly -- feels unpelaseant situation for w
HolySmoke [1k\]: hard for W
DaedDragon [3k\]: b has a floating group, is that what makes w uncomfortable?
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: b has miai attack M14 or connect h14
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;W[og]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: M16 also sort of floating 
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: it has lots of aji
hume [4k\]: to my eyes is still not decided
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: o14? maybe
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: complicated maybe it wastes the aj
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: this move is certainly critical..
TimPC [9k\]: P15, P14-O16 and a move to fix seems to have a lot of potential to seperate white at some point.  Doesn't look good now but white has to be constantly aware black can split at any moment.
ErrorGo [2d\]: o14 like good 
hume [4k\]: ponnuki hdre is quite important
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: H14 may be just too slow -- i dunno
TimPC [9k\]: Although I think white could just surrender the Q15 stone if it ever gets too severe.
JesusTeAma [3k\]: h14 aim e16 aji
hume [4k\]: high dans, illuminate us!
JesusTeAma [3k\]: no ?
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;B[mf]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: f16 g15 is a net jesus
TimPC [9k\]: I think the ponnuki is too small compared to fighting two weak groups.
hume [4k\]: i was thinking n14 too
JesusTeAma [3k\]: yes is a net but if h16 next f14
ErrorGo [2d\]: o15 ?
tas6466 [5k?\]: empty triangle ftw?
TimPC [9k\]: Is N17 sente on the top group, if so it looks well-timed now
koko123: o15 good shape
Rottamies [6k\]: p15 too passive
Rottamies [6k\]: o15
]
;W[nf]C[JesusTeAma [3k\]: lol
Rottamies [6k\]: told ya
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: thats o14.
JesusTeAma [3k\]: I was pronto to say o14
tas6466 [5k?\]: sure
TimPC [9k\]: That removes most of the aji of the cuts and helps connect the white groups.
koko123: he missclicked 015 :-)
hume [4k\]: i was not ;)
ErrorGo [2d\]: b o14 maybe was better 
Rottamies [6k\]: lol sry i thought u said n15 not o15
hume [4k\]: interesting move, more active in the center 
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: o14 for black was my first thought -- but dunno if it is better
Rottamies [6k\]: o13
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;B[mg]C[ErrorGo [2d\]: n17 
]
;W[ne]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: now h14?
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: or maybe somethng more active
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: like P11
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;B[ob]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: p11 though seems like u just hurt N13
JesusTeAma [3k\]: o14 for b seemns nice
hume [4k\]: p12
]
;W[oc]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: p11 now?
]
;B[qh]C[hume [4k\]: mmm
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: i guess black goes for cut
ErrorGo [2d\]: w like alive 
Rottamies [6k\]: black cant cut
]
;W[oi]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: p11 q11 p10 
Rottamies [6k\]: b too weak and w too strong
]
;B[mj]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: b preparing H14/Q11
hume [4k\]: w can press b a bit, but
hume [4k\]: have to live too
ErrorGo [2d\]: h14 like important , but slow 
hume [4k\]: yes
Rottamies [6k\]: actually h14 useless move
Rottamies [6k\]: dunno why anyone would play that
DaedDragon [3k\]: p5?
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: dunno about it being useless.
ErrorGo [2d\]: m3
Rottamies [6k\]: i guess 6k eyes cant see why it is so genius
Rottamies [6k\]: i need more training
hume [4k\]: w should try to kill imho
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: too much weakness to kill -- that's insane
ErrorGo [2d\]: m3 ><
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: b's totally alive
Rottamies [6k\]: m3 too far
Rottamies [6k\]: b will cut
Rottamies [6k\]: otherwise good suggestion
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: i think i like m3 -- cutting may be too much for black
ErrorGo [2d\]: but w is alive 
Rottamies [6k\]: im taking u to thee SCHOOL
JesusTeAma [3k\]: one possible sequence after h14 if w don't answer localy is f16 g15 f14 f15 g14
Herod [-\]: Rottamies that's enough
Rottamies [6k\]: srry
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: instead of f16 jesus -- just ply f14 directly
Rottamies [6k\]: was trolling
]
;W[kj]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: maybe gaining the liberty there is good though
]
;B[fl]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: ! big fight now
hume [4k\]: here we are
AAAAAAAU: interesting choice
Rottamies [6k\]: w must try to kill
hume [4k\]: but w too direct, should have tried some preparing moves imho
tas6466 [5k?\]: so did black just sack the group?
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: no black can still live with that group
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: no way to kill it 
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: can do a billion forcing moves now though
hume [4k\]: killing is not always tfor killing
hume [4k\]: just forcing the opponent, you know
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: w gotta think about profit though
]
;W[ll]C[hume [4k\]: in this case, maybe w can gain a moyo in the center
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: seems... very very hard
Tiracula [-\]: territory* bottom*
Tiracula [-\]: fixed
hume [4k\]: lets see :)
]
;B[nh]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: how will b escape?
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: just run :p
tymak [1k\]: dont see, how can w make enough point on lower side...seems like kill or resign for me
hume [4k\]: eric and gan ... what's their strnght?
Tiracula [-\]: through the holes in white shape
Rottamies [6k\]: 7d..
crabnugget [?\]: both about aga 8d
TimPC [9k\]: black just attacks whites connections to get stones to run with, killing is very difficult.
hume [4k\]: 7d pro or amateur
liptos [4k\]: b escape still looks tough
woodrose [1d\]: q13 
Rottamies [6k\]: only asians are 7d pro
tas6466 [5k?\]: lol
hume [4k\]: ok
]
;W[ph]C[HKA [2d\]: wow, Rottamies, Michael Redmond was a 7d pro
]
;B[qi]C[Rottamies [6k\]: neverheard
xDragon [?\]: but hes not 7p anymore, hes 9p
HKA [2d\]: of course
hume [4k\]: us are full of pro from china and korea, isnt it?
hume [4k\]: u.s. i mean
tas6466 [5k?\]: and japan
ErrorGo [2d\]: focus in the game (: 
DaedDragon [3k\]: q11?
hume [4k\]: roger
ErrorGo [2d\]: q10 ? 
Rottamies [6k\]: r11 greedy
sr0001 [2k?\]: if q10, how to handle B P12? double cut
]
;W[pj]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: but p12 cuts (at q13 or q11)
liptos [4k\]: well, r11 keeps the pressure on w's big group here?
HKA [2d\]: cut?
liptos [4k\]: p12?
Rottamies [6k\]: lol does p12 kill
]
;B[ml]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: does p12 cut?
skyywalker [2d\]: white can live inside
HKA [2d\]: white seems to have lost the control
hume [4k\]: sude
ErrorGo [2d\]: n17 +p14 = alive 
liptos [4k\]: really, two eyes inside?
Rottamies [6k\]: ye
sr0001 [2k?\]: N19 is sente
sr0001 [2k?\]: *N17
sr0001 [2k?\]: is that why alive inside?
]
;W[mm]C[liptos [4k\]: ah yes
skyywalker [2d\]: n15 make an eye
]
;B[nl]C[skyywalker [2d\]: no need n17
hi1234 [4k\]: 7d or 7p? 
sr0001 [2k?\]: ok
ErrorGo [2d\]: but n17 sente 
skyywalker [2d\]: yes
tas6466 [5k?\]: 7d
skyywalker [2d\]: n17 is important too
Rottamies [6k\]: american 9d = 1p
skyywalker [2d\]: but w q10 is cut then black happy
hume [4k\]: what the timing for them?
tas6466 [5k?\]: there is no 9d
Rottamies [6k\]: lol?
Nearlol [18k?\]: what means 1-7p?
DaedDragon [3k\]: I thought this was the pro qualifier?
hume [4k\]: profedsional da
liptos [4k\]: wait, how does w make two eyes? he needs q14 and n15 right?
HKA [2d\]: aga only recognizes amatuer ranks up to 7 dan
hume [4k\]: dan
JesusTeAma [3k\]: if could play n17 would be better play n16
JesusTeAma [3k\]: *if b
skyywalker [2d\]: yes liptos 
sr0001 [2k?\]: liptos, if black cut at q13 then atari makes eyes or connect
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: w should play N17 now
skyywalker [2d\]: then white live in gote
DaedDragon [3k\]: n17 is sente to kill teh top gropu, then q14 to live
Rottamies [6k\]: doesnt matter what aga does
Rottamies [6k\]: aga does not determine whether the rank of 9d exists
HKA [2d\]: then by all means stop watching
Rottamies [6k\]: asians have been playing for a bit longer and they recognize 9d rank
Rottamies [6k\]: i think we should consult them
liptos [4k\]: ah yes q13 cut is atari i see
mrnoob [-\]: actually i don't think they do
Rottamies [6k\]: lee sedol 9d..
tas6466 [5k?\]: 9p
hume [4k\]: it's an irrilevant question
mrnoob [-\]: well they don't for amateurs
Rottamies [6k\]: 9p equals 9 dan pro
HKA [2d\]: I said amatuer, not pro
shinkertif [1k\]: 9d pro
JesusTeAma [3k\]: once I heard, why  threaten take one eye if you could threaten take both 
quahog [4k\]: Rottamies...there is a difference between professional ranks that ar ecetified by various orgs...and amatuer ranks
Rottamies [6k\]: tas6466 said there is no 9d without qualifications
skyywalker [2d\]: please stop speaking about pro etc... it is borring!
tas6466 [5k?\]: what about o10
skyywalker [2d\]: let's look the game
ErrorGo [2d\]: (Y)
liptos [4k\]: o10 is sente i like it
hume [4k\]: aggree
Rottamies [6k\]: arguing is exciting
Rottamies [6k\]: especially when ur right
sr0001 [2k?\]: can w hope to surround any more?
Herod [-\]: Rotamies, be quiet for the rest of this game
sr0001 [2k?\]: seems like b is out
]
;W[pp]C[skyywalker [2d\]: o10 doesn't work
ErrorGo [2d\]: o: ! 
tooeye [2d\]: was thinking of p4 
sr0001 [2k?\]: nice leaning attack
hume [4k\]: o4 nice to prepare something
ErrorGo [2d\]: prepper to fight 
]
;B[pq]C[tas6466 [5k?\]: i don't even know what go is after q4
tooeye [2d\]: pretty much the only path if white expects something out of this fight
hume [4k\]: m6?
liptos [4k\]: no q4 is great
tooeye [2d\]: tas6466, it will come ;)
sr0001 [2k?\]: tas, I think q4 asks B to choose corner vs. dragon
sr0001 [2k?\]: which to save
]
;W[qo]C[skyywalker [2d\]: q4 have only one response it is 100% sente
hume [4k\]: imho w wanna kill
liptos [4k\]: o7?
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: i like o7
hume [4k\]: lower side has many pints, diffult for b to gain enough 
liptos [4k\]: they should decide the moves by kibitz vote
tas6466 [5k?\]: or not
hume [4k\]: o7 with the intention of n3 to come?
Rottamies [6k\]: i just shit my pants
AAAAAAAU: enjoy your ban
sr0001 [2k?\]: bye Rott
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: maybe even n6
liptos [4k\]: lol
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: maybe b s5
Rottamies [6k\]: cu :D
hume [4k\]: bw  o7 i mean
hume [4k\]: black o7
hume [4k\]: sorry, white o7
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: 80 percent of the time... when a 6d says "maybe a move" it is the move.
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: so I vote s5 too
tooeye [2d\]: any corner moves seems risky now for b
DaedDragon [3k\]: if b: s5, maybe w: p6?
skyywalker [2d\]: s5 urgent?
tooeye [2d\]: q8 perhaps?
DaedDragon [3k\]: how does b escape then?
tiersen [5d\]: p12?
tooeye [2d\]: then p6 .
sr0001 [2k?\]: is b q8 sente b/c p12 cut?
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: b still has lots of stuff he can play with -- like M9
DaedDragon [3k\]: and why doesn't o10 work for w?
]
;B[nm]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: oh snap! it is o7 after all
liptos [4k\]: ah ha!
tas6466 [5k?\]: save all the things?
sr0001 [2k?\]: I guess r5 was too slow
liptos [4k\]: n6 i guess
hume [4k\]: o7 was my first choice for w, now he can resign,   lol
DaedDragon [3k\]: n6?
tas6466 [5k?\]: no he will probably doublehane if he plays there
DaedDragon [3k\]: too many cuts to double hane!
tooeye [2d\]: p4 ?
hume [4k\]: fact is that losing sente here, w cant make points
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: i think w needs to... um S4
]
;W[qq]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: or r3
tas6466 [5k?\]: i was looking at that
tooeye [2d\]: s4 
]
;B[rp]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: w says: you can live, but I'm gonna hve more points!
tas6466 [5k?\]: yep
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: well.. not really
skyywalker [2d\]: q5
DaedDragon [3k\]: b says, no thx!
sr0001 [2k?\]: more forcing get w stones around o5?
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: Q3 would be heavily under attacked 
Cobrinha [5k\]: o12 for b?
liptos [4k\]: q11 cut works now?
Cobrinha [5k\]: p12
Cobrinha [5k\]: not o
]
;W[rr]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: oh my!
tooeye [2d\]: indeed
DaedDragon [3k\]: w threatens teh s4 stones
tas6466 [5k?\]: nom nom nom?
liptos [4k\]: this could get ugly
DaedDragon [3k\]: ugly? No way! This is beautiful!
shinkertif [1k\]: is p12 for b a cut?
Cobrinha [5k\]: i asked :)
skyywalker [2d\]: yes this cut
Cobrinha [5k\]: because seems quite severe
liptos [4k\]: i think we determined in past that p12 doesnt work because w can live inside, but i dont think its the same case for q11 cut?
skyywalker [2d\]: not really severe white is alive inside 
hume [4k\]: r5 is ok
Cobrinha [5k\]: can live ?
]
;B[oh]C[shinkertif [1k\]: yes :)
liptos [4k\]: well now
Cobrinha [5k\]: uh let's see :)
Be1Dby2015 [6k\]: what's the time limit per move on this game?
tas6466 [5k?\]: 90 main 5 periods of 40
tooeye [2d\]: q14 q11 n17 .
matt383 [5k\]: what time is it there?
DaedDragon [3k\]: Look up above... see those 90:00s?
tooeye [2d\]: ?
Cobrinha [5k\]: n16 for b kills?
skyywalker [2d\]: q11 q13 q14 r13 n17 n18 o13 
liptos [4k\]: the real time is probably 6:40 pm ot do
hume [4k\]: w to resign
tooeye [2d\]: w needs n16 first
shinkertif [1k\]: 1:30 main time with 5 periods of 40 seconds overtime
]
;W[mc]C[Woodstock [-\]: i think we can assume he meant the byo yomi
tooeye [2d\]: its sente anyway
]
;B[po]C[matt383 [5k\]: i meant the 6.40pm actually
Cobrinha [5k\]: if w n16 first not easy life :O
matt383 [5k\]: thx :)
DaedDragon [3k\]: wow!
tas6466 [5k?\]: b seems to be scrambling
AAAAAAAU: this is so much better than board 2
Falcon89 [4k\]: Eric  have expected this p12 cut
]
;W[op]
;B[oo]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: "20 pionts in gote? who needs it!!"
tas6466 [5k?\]: what?
USGO1 [-\]: w has 10:00 remaining
]
;W[np]
;B[qn]C[tas6466 [5k?\]: really?
Woodstock [-\]: sorry, i was lagging
Cobrinha [5k\]: b q 15?
tooeye [2d\]: n18 
Cobrinha [5k\]: q14
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: o3
Cobrinha [5k\]: sorry
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: o3 huge
gogol1er [1d\]: n18 huge too
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: but... 
]
;W[nq]C[hume [4k\]: sure n18 will put b ahead
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: now black plays q11
hume [4k\]: white sorry
tooeye [2d\]: b needs n18 
skyywalker [2d\]: looks bad for black
HolySmoke [1k\]: q14
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: oh n
liptos [4k\]: agree with skywalker
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: n18 big yes
Cobrinha [5k\]: q14 kills
]
;B[mb]C[IlanKeshet [2k?\]: missed that exchange even happened
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: now q11
tooeye [2d\]: w should have n18
tooeye [2d\]: instead of o3 
IlanKeshet [2k?\]: *q13
DaedDragon [3k\]: it was smaller
DaedDragon [3k\]: o3 was 30 points
zypher [1k?\]: q14
tas6466 [5k?\]: q6 for the lulz?
liptos [4k\]: w h5 is pretty massive now also
tooeye [2d\]: perhas
tooeye [2d\]: perhaps
gogol1er [1d\]: how do u count 30?
hontono [1d\]: 1, 2, ...
hume [4k\]: lol
DaedDragon [3k\]: gogo: imagine b o3 instead
DaedDragon [3k\]: the side and corner swing
tooeye [2d\]: by I do not see what white got in exchange for q10
]
;W[pi]
;B[pg]C[skyywalker [2d\]: corner territory
hume [4k\]: w looks dead
]
;W[pf]
;B[qg]C[tas6466 [5k?\]: w looks alive
tooeye [2d\]: no w alive gote
Cobrinha [5k\]: uh
skyywalker [2d\]: alive sente
hume [4k\]: oh yes
skyywalker [2d\]: n12 cut
Cobrinha [5k\]: no alive but dead q10 imo
gogol1er [1d\]: p14 kills the eye
skyywalker [2d\]: o13 sente
Cobrinha [5k\]: uh
Cobrinha [5k\]: p14
DaedDragon [3k\]: and p14 threatens n12
]
;W[ni]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: but how will teh q11 stones live?
DaedDragon [3k\]: oh!
]
;B[ng]C[tas6466 [5k?\]: thats what w was thinking
]
;W[of]
;B[mi]C[tas6466 [5k?\]: now q6?
hume [4k\]: and w can resign the same
USGO1 [-\]: w 5:00 remains
asdfasdfe: black is miles ahead
DaedDragon [3k\]: miles? could you put that  in points?
tas6466 [5k?\]: yes please do
DaedDragon [3k\]: I think w leads
secureid [5k\]: is r10 dead?
hume [4k\]: in killing stones lol
]
;W[rn]
;B[ro]C[liptos [4k\]: se says w + ~20
liptos [4k\]: not that that means anything :p
]
;W[pn]C[hume [4k\]: domt look at it
hume [4k\]: here we have tha great battle
]
;B[qo]C[Peiling [3d\]: its still a close game, hard to tell who's winning
Peiling [3d\]: but if w dies middle right, then it will be a different story
hume [4k\]: imho r10 dead
]
;W[pl]C[asdfasdfe: if white dies, white is behind about 20 points
Cobrinha [5k\]: really difficult to live 
liptos [4k\]: s8 for s10 follow up?
tas6466 [5k?\]: if w lives... b still doesn't have eyes
Peiling [3d\]: yes was also thinking about s8
Cobrinha [5k\]: also if w strenghtens can cut r5 
hume [4k\]: sure
Peiling [3d\]: hmmm s8 might be a trap, because the follow up would be P6 by w
asdfasdfe: black has a fantastic suji at o2
DaedDragon [3k\]: I am so glad I am not playing this:  I could take either side and lose!
asdfasdfe: o2 stops white cutting from n5
hume [4k\]: me too hehe
Cobrinha [5k\]: yes peiling i was thinking of that
asdfasdfe: o2 avoids p6^^
asdfasdfe: count by yourself
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: o2 doesnt work
asdfasdfe: it does,
asdfasdfe: p6 black can o5
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: o2 q2 p2 n2 ?
asdfasdfe: no
asdfasdfe: you doesnt see the meaning of my move
]
;B[qr]C[hume [4k\]: s3!
DaedDragon [3k\]: you were close!
asdfasdfe: o2 stop white from cutting at n5
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: no, i read o2 before you mentioned it
awesome [4k\]: I had this all worked out at move 50
asdfasdfe: if white push through, black can cut white without worry at n6
hi1234 [4k\]: s3
hi1234 [4k\]: no problem
DaedDragon [3k\]: asdf: what about the dragon?
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: you sequence is that b can capture o3
]
;W[rq]C[asdfasdfe: everything is about the dragon
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: but if you still let w push through, then whole n8 center dies
]
;B[nr]C[hume [4k\]: s3 i suspected s3 was better tahn o2
asdfasdfe: see?
asdfasdfe: o2
asdfasdfe: my move
awesome [4k\]: lol
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: doesnt mean it worked yet lol
hi1234 [4k\]: dragon is ok because white right side is weak
DaedDragon [3k\]: dude! you are genius!
crabnugget [?\]: or what it worked for
DonValley [5d\]: no.. b aiming q2
asdfasdfe: black can peep now at s8 and connect via s10
masonc [8k\]: white 3 center stones look silly
Cobrinha [5k\]: not so easy as it seemed a few moves before for b though
michaelW [2d\]: q1?
asdfasdfe: white will die or he will give up the stones
tas6466 [5k?\]: yeah
tas6466 [5k?\]: i was looking at q1
asdfasdfe: 4 stones
USGO1 [-\]: w 1:00 remains
DaedDragon [3k\]: does p6 work now?
]
;W[mr]C[Ukasuhs [5d?\]: but w can give up 4 stones to seperate o7 and whole dragon
precal [2k\]: what b time?
]
;B[pr]C[tas6466 [5k?\]: w doesn't care about the dragon... just needs points to win
awesome [4k\]: donvalley won
asdfasdfe: black made it bigger going for sure after the exhcange the whole corner died
tonyho [1d\]: w only hope is the bottom
USGO1 [-\]: w has entered byo yomi
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: can w just p6 now?
tonyho [1d\]: s8 still dangerous for w
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: go for center group
Peiling [3d\]: R1 seems like the only answer
hi1234 [4k\]: c15 huge
secureid [5k\]: such a pain
]
;W[qs]C[Cobrinha [5k\]: hom much are the byo yomi? 5m each?
tas6466 [5k?\]: 5 periods of 40 sec
Cobrinha [5k\]: ok
asdfasdfe: mistake
Cobrinha [5k\]: ty
DaedDragon [3k\]: cob: options/rules
tonyho [1d\]: s1
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: w had to p6
USGO1 [-\]: we are going to seal this move
Ukasuhs [5d?\]: really? this is the sealed move O.o
DaedDragon [3k\]: when will they be back?
tas6466 [5k?\]: nooooooo
AAAAAAAU: when do they continue?
USGO1 [-\]: we will return in one hour.
quahog [4k\]: probably 1 hr dinner break
DaedDragon [3k\]: ty
hi1234 [4k\]: ever watch world go championships, 2 seconds a move, thatis how fast they can think
ckjy [4k\]: You mean seal Black's response?
xDragon [?\]: and were back
sedgwick [?\]: s1 tempting..
]
;B[rs]C[USGO1 [-\]: the sealed move
xDragon [?\]: winner of this game faces calvin sun in the semifinals, loser faces andrew lu in the losers bracket
oo88: why moderated chat mode?
]
;W[rm]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: keeps people from typing lotsa nonsense
]
;B[no]
;W[ns]C[liptos [4k\]: w is alive on right i guess
liptos [4k\]: q1 seems only choice
]
;B[ps]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: good call
liptos [4k\]: booya
]
;W[or]
;B[sq]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: save teh right?
liptos [4k\]: who?
]
;W[em]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: or not...
xDragon [?\]: did it need saving?
DaedDragon [3k\]: is it alive?
liptos [4k\]: yea, w looks alive no matter wat now
liptos [4k\]: well...i don't know, its on the edge, maybe a 9d could kill it XD
Kirby [2d\]: is there a comprehensive listing of pro games from current us pros?
JesusTeAma [3k\]: w situation is worrisome
DaedDragon [3k\]: You mean b has more points?
liptos [4k\]: e6?
JesusTeAma [3k\]: yes
JesusTeAma [3k\]: more points 
Demon [3d\]: i feel like e7 might be overplay-ish
DaedDragon [3k\]: Did you count the komi?
]
;B[cl]C[liptos [4k\]: yea, in retrospect, c8 is most solid
]
;W[fm]
;B[lq]
;W[lp]
;B[kp]C[Demon [3d\]: bshould p1 to prevent o2 eye
]
;W[mo]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: good thinking
fffuiuiweu: self atari?
liptos [4k\]: p1 self atari?
fffuiuiweu: lol
oo88: p1 9p move
xDragon [?\]: demon you should turn in your dan badge for that one
oo88: hahahah
liptos [4k\]: p1 :p move
Demon [3d\]: oh right that's self-atari nvm  XD
oo88: p1 is excelent
oo88: if you WANT TO DIE
DaedDragon [3k\]: b thinks he is behind? Why else m3?
DaedDragon [3k\]: can w e6?
Demon [3d\]: i should never have gotten my dan badge to beginwith.  i've self-atarid a few times in U.S. Open games... XD
xDragon [?\]: i made a 200 point blunder in a us open game this year too
xDragon [?\]: so...yeah
Freak [2k\]: demon
liptos [4k\]: bah, good players never make mistakes, always perfect
Freak [2k\]: demon were you at go congress 2013?
]
;B[jq]C[Freak [2k\]: in seattle tacoma?
Demon [3d\]: no, haven't beento one since 2008
Freak [2k\]: oh
DaedDragon [3k\]: n6 sente?
oo88: at least daeddragon did a 9p move
oo88: like kumiko
USGO1 [-\]: last byoyomi
Demon [3d\]: i'm too ashamed of my self-ataris... i refuse to show my face at a u.s. open again  :(
liptos [4k\]: n6 is sente
liptos [4k\]: cus then o6 cuts off
xDragon [?\]: after my blunder i seriously wanted to take a plane home righ tthen and there
agakenny [5d?\]: what is b time left?
]
;W[ip]C[oo88: don't do it demon, kumiko 9p didn't it
oo88: he keeps playing :)
xDragon [?\]: but i recovered nicely from it
]
;B[iq]C[fist: s11 kills
]
;W[hp]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: w says: I'm just gonna kill them
]
;B[fr]C[JesusTeAma [3k\]: w hill let him lie and make the points in center 
JesusTeAma [3k\]: *will
DaedDragon [3k\]: b says: how about if I make your head explode?
goBum [2d?\]: ah they're back ˚◡˚
]
;W[gr]C[liptos [4k\]: s11 kills w?
liptos [4k\]: that would be cool to see
]
;B[fq]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: when can w e6?
fist: p9 and s11?
]
;W[mn]C[fist: p9 1st
JesusTeAma [3k\]: e6 g7
liptos [4k\]: i dont know bs follow up at g7 to e6 looks tough
liptos [4k\]: if not impossible for w
tas6466 [5k?\]: e6 g7 g8
]
;B[lk]C[liptos [4k\]: ya thats true
DaedDragon [3k\]: w should have m9 first?
]
;W[kk]
;B[nn]C[xDragon [?\]: http://www.eskimo.com/~wheelers/go/agapro/table.html - newly updated tournament table
]
;W[hn]C[HighStoner [4k\]: black s11 does look huge
]
;B[en]C[secureid [5k\]: d6?*e6
]
;W[dk]C[HighStoner [4k\]: oh nvm. white can make eyes threatening a black throw in at s9
]
;B[ck]
;W[dr]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: is w alive ehre?
DaedDragon [3k\]: b3?
]
;B[jo]C[liptos [4k\]: i think id have a hrd time killing w lower left
]
;W[km]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: USGO: how much time does b have?
liptos [4k\]: this b group gonna be ok? i would have ditched it..
sedgwick [?\]: b l3 group hard to kill also
]
;B[jm]C[xDragon [?\]: the scribes arent allowed to read the kibitz, theyll update when he hits a relevant time
]
;W[in]C[liptos [4k\]: b l3 group is surrounded by w though, w lower left is in a corner...
]
;B[jn]C[sr0001 [2k?\]: g8?
]
;W[hl]C[Herod [-\]: A fair while back he said they were in the last byo yomi period
xDragon [?\]: i thought he said just w was in last byo yomi
DaedDragon [3k\]: w is... but I think b has time
agakenny [5d?\]: b in bioyomi?
]
;B[jl]C[Demon [3d\]: yeah i remember them saying w in last byo yomi, haven't noticed anything about b's time
DaedDragon [3k\]: given teh cut at d10 how is b gonna make this work?
]
;W[kl]
;B[ik]C[tas6466 [5k?\]: b don't care.. he just going keep going like he's alive
DaedDragon [3k\]: maybe a giant semiai?
]
;W[gj]
;B[hk]C[liptos [4k\]: honey b-adger don't care
]
;W[gk]
;B[gl]C[tas6466 [5k?\]: he don't give a stone
DaedDragon [3k\]: j8?
tas6466 [5k?\]: g7?
agakenny [5d?\]: b is going to resign soon
]
;W[il]
;B[jk]C[fffuiuiweu: ^
DaedDragon [3k\]: yay!
agakenny [5d?\]: F9
Demon [3d\]: i don't see b's plan...
tas6466 [5k?\]: throw stones down and hope it works?
]
;W[ek]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: k11? to start the giant semiai?
liptos [4k\]: hope opponent runs out of time
sedgwick [?\]: after h2 and m2, w m4 group also problems
oo88: this is hard
DonValley [5d\]: black wont die
]
;B[hi]C[oo88: how
DaedDragon [3k\]: k11 connects!
shinkertif [1k\]: tries to kill l10
DaedDragon [3k\]: and teh o4 stones die
tas6466 [5k?\]: he's the honey b-adger
]
;W[ji]C[oo88: k11 is so good
]
;B[gi]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: g9
]
;W[fi]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: or not!
oo88: go w go!!
oo88: kill b!
tas6466 [5k?\]: you go with your 40 seconds w
tas6466 [5k?\]: lol
]
;B[ii]C[oo88: i can't read well, is this alive?
xedover [?\]: "white, 40 secs 5 times", the clock says
tas6466 [5k?\]: 40 secs 1 time
DaedDragon [3k\]: j12
]
;W[gh]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: darn
]
;B[fj]C[oren [4k\]: xedover, you just made me crige
oren [4k\]: cringe
Kirby [2d\]: that means he has 5 periods left?
oo88: alive"
oo88: or dead?
shinkertif [1k\]: capturing race
DaedDragon [3k\]: f9
]
;W[fk]C[DaedDragon [3k\]: yay
Demon [3d\]: b hoping for mistake or time out?
]
;B[dj]C[secureid [5k\]: Demon, b is not that bad
DaedDragon [3k\]: k12
]
;W[eh]C[Demon [3d\]: well if this ends up being a seki it's not so bad
DaedDragon [3k\]: darn
Demon [3d\]: i don't count libs
]
;B[gn]C[liptos [4k\]: of cours,e has to protect h11
DaedDragon [3k\]: this side too! yikes!
tas6466 [5k?\]: g5?
secureid [5k\]: turns out h4 group will die
]
;W[gm]
;B[im]C[liptos [4k\]: actually, b may be ok!
tas6466 [5k?\]: false eye
Demon [3d\]: actually maybe w short onlibs
]
;W[hm]
;B[gp]C[Jermelle [-\]: I knew it /o/
tas6466 [5k?\]: k4?
alreadygo: how many player for pro?
Kirby [2d\]: one, i guess
]
;W[hq]C[Demon [3d\]: only 1 becomes pro i think
liptos [4k\]: this is why i am not aga pro yet
liptos [4k\]: j2?
fist: j2 a must
]
;B[lo]C[tas6466 [5k?\]: or not :P
Jermelle [-\]: lol
sedgwick [?\]: g1 also worth consideration
sedgwick [?\]: may reduce libs more
tas6466 [5k?\]: k1?
]
;W[mp]C[fist: sooner or later
]
;B[ir]C[liptos [4k\]: yea there it is
Jermelle [-\]: yipes, gg
alreadygo: seki?
]
;W[gs]C[sedgwick [?\]: f1
]
;B[fs]C[liptos [4k\]: yea f1
tas6466 [5k?\]: timesugi
secureid [5k\]: Demon u owe b an apologize
Jermelle [-\]: lol
sedgwick [?\]: no, this gain 1 lib
]
;W[kr]C[Demon [3d\]: i apologize b, i can't count.  :)
cherrysaur [-\]: USGO, are they both in byo-yomi?
]
;B[jp]C[Demon [3d\]: scribes can't readchat
tas6466 [5k?\]: j1?
fist: w is shorter of libs
secureid [5k\]: no the squeeze begins
secureid [5k\]: *now
]
;W[kq]
;B[hs]C[xedover [?\]: no, I think black has 11 mins on the clock still
liptos [4k\]: looks real close
]
;W[kn]
;B[dm]C[Demon [3d\]: b wins
Demon [3d\]: pretty easily
alreadygo: i see seki
Demon [3d\]: it can't be seki.  w has eye b has no eye
liptos [4k\]: yea
Demon [3d\]: but w doesn't have many libs
Demon [3d\]: b wins
]
;W[ko]C[liptos [4k\]: mm im not so sure..
]
;B[hj]C[Demon [3d\]: just count
tas6466 [5k?\]: j5?
getbetter [?\]: its seki
xedover [?\]: I've missed when white used his other periods, but I think he's only got one left now
Kirby [2d\]: b won
USGO1 [-\]: white has resigned
secureid [5k\]: gg
Demon [3d\]: it's definitely not seki lol
alreadygo: xd
secureid [5k\]: thanks USGO1!
dogbert [4d\]: 5 lib vs 4
liptos [4k\]: cool gg
xDragon [?\]: so gan jianing will play calvin sun in the semi finals
xDragon [?\]: if i read it right
fffuiuiweu: play it out b wins by 1 lib
fffuiuiweu: all dead
shinkertif [1k\]: ????
HighStoner [4k\]: looks like a 2 lib win
agakenny [5d?\]: 1 lib
HighStoner [4k\]: ah right
agakenny [5d?\]: w has many ways to win, but choose to kill b is a bad strategy
fffuiuiweu: still very nice play by black
shinkertif [1k\]: its like a ko
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