(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[1st AGA-TYGEMGO Pro Finals - 4A, game 3]PW[GanSheng Shi]PB[Andy Liu]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2012-08-03]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[CrossKid [6d\]: Hm your both not covering the same game right?
Sandalphon [5d\]: I think the other one is an exhibition
CrossKid [6d\]: Yeah it is 
CrossKid [6d\]: I just meant at first they both said the same thing :)
USGO1 [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-system
palapiku [-\]: this better be worth waking up at 6am for
CrossKid [6d\]: i think only andy liu, ganshengshi, and jianing gan are left in the running 
CrossKid [6d\]: and eric lui too... i think though he lost both games yesterday but i think hes one of the players who gets seeded for next year and the winner of this match is the first pro ?
palapiku [-\]: the winner of this game is the first pro
CrossKid [6d\]: and... loser plays jianing gan for 2nd pro spot :) and 2nd seed spot (i think) 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: go andy
Warfreak2 [4d\]: almost undefeated
palapiku [-\]: go gansheng!!
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;W[dp]
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;W[me]
;B[cf]C[Demon [3d\]: Go Andy!
Tetriste [-\]: winner here is first pro, loser gets to fight Jianing for second pro
Tetriste [-\]: Go GanSheng!!!
Sandalphon [5d\]: Does the loser play again today?
Tetriste [-\]: yup
dinosaur [1d\]: so what is the game on the other board for?
Sandalphon [5d\]: ouch
Demon [3d\]: Jianing thinking, "please don't let Andy lose..."
Tetriste [-\]: loll
Sandalphon [5d\]: dinosaur: exhibition
dinosaur [1d\]: oh right
Tetriste [-\]: pfft, I'm sure Jianing can win against Andy
dinosaur [1d\]: I forgot americans are into exhibitionism
dinosaur [1d\]: no one can win against andy
palapiku [-\]: jianing got pushed into the losers bracket by andy...
Tetriste [-\]: well I guess someone did yesterday
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;B[gd]
;W[fe]
;B[dc]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: Somebody tell Tetriste to take his canadian hockey gloves off... he's typing crazy :P
Tetriste [-\]: for a french canadian I think I'm not doing that bad
palapiku [-\]: it's move 17 why is everything so complicated already
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;B[ge]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: on the morale side, I think Andy is at a disadvantage, yesterday was his first defeat... that can certainly swing you
gogonuts [5d\]: b looking better
Sandalphon [5d\]: whereas Gansheng Shi pulled back from the brink
Tetriste [-\]: of course b looking better, we're at the start and he has first move
palapiku [-\]: nah... he's actually looking better
Bauer [1k\]: strange start of w
cbus [2d?\]: who are playing?
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;W[hc]
;B[gc]C[gogonuts [5d\]: is this their 3rd game?
Mef [-\]: W - CanSheng Shi  B - Andy Liu
Mef [-\]: GanSheng*
Tetriste [-\]: yup third and last game for one of them
Sandalphon [5d\]: gogo: yes, this decides first pro
gogonuts [5d\]: thx
Tetriste [-\]: well, they'll probably end up both pro
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;W[ff]
;B[jc]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: yeah, but one of them will have a very long day
CrossKid [6d\]: hmm maybe jianing gan played really well yesterday
Tetriste [-\]: lol yeah
Tetriste [-\]: GanSheng is on fire though
CrossKid [6d\]: yeah 
ThiGar [3k\]: are they going to quit their previous career and/or studies, etc.. when they become pros?
Sandalphon [5d\]: jeez, was K17 necessary?
Mef [-\]: Has yet to be seen....but the pro commits to a year of playing in korea, ThiGar
gogonuts [5d\]: k17 certainly takes composure :-)
ThiGar [3k\]: thx for info
Sisley [4k\]: did andy lost one game in the tournament ?
CrossKid [6d\]: seems really careful 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: last one against gansheng, andy lost
Warfreak2 [4d\]: so this is the decider
Sisley [4k\]: one game then
Warfreak2 [4d\]: winner becomes pro
Sisley [4k\]: :)
Sandalphon [5d\]: it's just so tight... and C11 is just aching to be played
CrossKid [6d\]: bothplayers must be jumping out of there shoes:)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: too tense
Warfreak2 [4d\]: maybe andy won't blitz this one
Tetriste [-\]: a really tense situation yeah
gogonuts [5d\]: i couldnt have played k17 myself, but it makes a lot of sense when you see it
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;W[ci]
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;W[nd]
;B[pf]C[base [-\]: I like black here
adana [2k\]: the winer gts pro title?
base [-\]: yes adana
adana [2k\]: woww
Tetriste [-\]: gets the first one, the loser must win another best 2 of 3 against Jianing to get the other pro title
Tetriste [-\]: damn my job :(
CrossKid [6d\]: andy beat jianing gan 2-0 earlier on in the tournament
Sisley [4k\]: is there betting ?
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;W[kc]C[Tetriste [-\]: I gotta go to work, I'll follow it when I'm not too busy
nononono: AGA pro?
Tetriste [-\]: yeah
WhiteRawr [6d\]: why, i'm doing that already ;-)
nononono: how many AGA pros will there be?
Sandalphon [5d\]: 2
Tetriste [-\]: I don't have access to kgs server at my job
gogonuts [5d\]: L17 proves that k17 was played on fertile ground :-)
Tetriste [-\]: I can only download the sgf over and over
CrossKid [6d\]: that really sucks tet
palapiku [-\]: 2 + 2 more every year?
Tetriste [-\]: and watch it in an editor
Sisley [4k\]: firewall ?
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;B[jd]C[Tetriste [-\]: no, ubisoft block the sites
nononono: well what can you do with only 2 pros?????
palapiku [-\]: 2 more pros every year will exhaust the american go pool very quickly
Sandalphon [5d\]: nononono: read up on this tournament, then ask questions
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;W[jb]C[Tetriste [-\]: I think next year will be only one, not sure
Sisley [4k\]: u work for ubisoft ?
Tetriste [-\]: yea
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;W[kb]C[Sisley [4k\]: montreal ?
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;B[dh]C[Tetriste [-\]: only an internship though
Tetriste [-\]: Quebec
CrossKid [6d\]: some players didnt show up this year 
gogonuts [5d\]: did they block kgs because of your habits? :-)
Tetriste [-\]: no they block a ton of sites
gogonuts [5d\]: just kidding
Tetriste [-\]: can' even go on gmail :P (although hotmail is available)
Sisley [4k\]: they block all the sites where the geeks at ubisoft should go
CrossKid [6d\]: thats a weird site blocker haha
palapiku [-\]: thanks for telling us, now i'll never apply at ubisoft
Sisley [4k\]: i heard ur boss is hot
Tetriste [-\]: loll
nononono: what about using your own computer at home and make a network to it?
Tetriste [-\]: the people and the work is great, so I'm fine with it
Tetriste [-\]: it just sucks to miss on events
CrossKid [6d\]: this is an event you should call in sick for! :)
Tetriste [-\]: c12 looks too early
Tetriste [-\]: lol yeah, for the whole week XD
nononono: well ask your boss if you can stay at home to watch some go players become pro
CrossKid [6d\]: lol
cbus [2d?\]: when did they start?
Sisley [4k\]: june
Tetriste [-\]: I gotta go anyway, bye (I can still follow it ''offline'')
CrossKid [6d\]: Cya ;)
gogonuts [5d\]: i think d12 is fine, because otherwise w will defend with a single move
Sisley [4k\]: say hello to ur boss
CrossKid [6d\]: woah GanSheng Shi beat smartrobot 2 days ago 
fakeyou [1d\]: GO ANDY!
CrossKid [6d\]: he really is on fire
fakeyou [1d\]: Andy Liu Best!
Demon [3d\]: ^
fakeyou [1d\]: Crosskid how do you know it?
palapiku [-\]: wow
CrossKid [6d\]: Gifted 8dan is GanSheng Shi on kgs
nononono: hey crosskid you are right - the result was number but what was my number?
CrossKid [6d\]: and played smartrobot on the 1st of this month and knocked him to kgs 8d
palapiku [-\]: that's impressive
ThiGar [3k\]: who is smartrobot?
Demon [3d\]: GanSheng strong, but not strong enough imo
CrossKid [6d\]: Very maybe he will have promising results today
palapiku [-\]: smartrobot is jack jin 2p
CrossKid [6d\]: smartrobot is Jack Jin 2p
ThiGar [3k\]: thx
nononono: the best robot on kgs
Warfreak2 [4d\]: even stronger than zen
nononono: yes
fakeyou [1d\]: haha
Demon [3d\]: i think andy will not make the mistake of blitzing too hard like yesterday and take this game more seriously  :)
Sandalphon [5d\]: Andy liu has been tearing up this tournament though... If he keeps his composure, my money is on Andy
palapiku [-\]: not to be confused with IdiotBot
fakeyou [1d\]: Gifted played against Andy on kgs
ThiGar [3k\]: for training?
fakeyou [1d\]: sure
CrossKid [6d\]: Mm... my money is on Andy too as well as GanSheng Shi has been doing I think Andy is still stronger 
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;W[fh]C[Sisley [4k\]: well this game is only happening because gansheng manage andy's only one loss of the whole tournament
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;B[fi]C[Euphony [3k\]: GanSheng is really eleven years old? That's a good age for a pro I think
CrossKid [6d\]: but of course go is more than just streangth :) so you never know
uriel [?\]: w is 11?
cbus [2d?\]: oxideS
Sandalphon [5d\]: wait, Gansheng is 11?
base [-\]: As of right now i'd say they are both going to make pro this year. Regardless of the winner of this game the loser will take 2nd place
CrossKid [6d\]: Is he....? 
CrossKid [6d\]: I didnt know his age at all but I didnt guess it was 11 haha....
Sandalphon [5d\]: wait wait wait, where did that info come from?
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;W[gh]C[Sisley [4k\]: 11 seems quite weird
Sisley [4k\]: only a few genius managed to go pro this young
CrossKid [6d\]: USGO1 do you know whites age?
palapiku [-\]: i don't think he's 11
base [-\]: 16-17 right?
Euphony [3k\]: that info came from 'gifted' profile
Sandalphon [5d\]: CrossKid: They're maintaining radio silence
palapiku [-\]: he was doing well in tournaments 4 years ago
CrossKid [6d\]: Ah ok didnt know that
CrossKid [6d\]: Ah it does say hes 11 in his profile... hm
uriel [?\]: yeah, he's not 11 i think
Sisley [4k\]: maybe he didnt updated his profile since 4 years
CrossKid [6d\]: I think its a joke though
uriel [?\]: i think it means he's played for 11 years
Sandalphon [5d\]: I think Sisley is right
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;B[di]C[Euphony [3k\]: wait, he said '11 year go player'  not 11-years-old... Oh... so he has been playing 11 years. since he was 6. so 17 then. oops
palapiku [-\]: maybe his profile means he played go for 11 years?
CrossKid [6d\]: Let me look it up maybe.... 
palapiku [-\]: yes
Sisley [4k\]: im always right
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;W[dj]
;B[ej]C[Sisley [4k\]: but not when playing go
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;W[dk]C[uriel [?\]: euphony has it right]
;B[gi]C[CrossKid [6d\]: Ah thanks inte
gogonuts [5d\]: ah
palapiku [-\]: omg
gogonuts [5d\]: trhx
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;W[hh]
;B[ij]C[base [-\]: i really don't think i'm going to be able to stay awake long enough to watch this game to the end
base [-\]: :(
ThiGar [3k\]: a running battle!
Sisley [4k\]: f8 ?
palapiku [-\]: this game doesn't look like pro game... everything is so heavy
CrossKid [6d\]: Well..... he does look 11

Sandalphon [5d\]: haha
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;W[ie]C[Sisley [4k\]: maybe he didnt eat enough vegetables
palapiku [-\]: looks more like kgs high dan game
Sandalphon [5d\]: F9 seems odd, D9 didn't work?
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;B[je]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: palapiku: some pros are kgs high dans :)
inte [?\]: 18 is more likely given he was 17 a year ago: http://www.usgo.org/news/2011/08/redmond-plays-redmond/
palapiku [-\]: top pro games definitely look different
Sandalphon [5d\]: well, top pros ARE different :)
Sisley [4k\]: they are not even low pros
Sisley [4k\]: yet

Sandalphon [5d\]: I knew something was weird
gogonuts [5d\]: makes more sense :-)
palapiku [-\]: well now it looks more like pro game :)
CrossKid [6d\]: you were right palapiku the "11" in hisprofile was for how long hes played go 
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;W[jh]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: Sisley, I don't think that's strictly true, as far as strength, Andy has beaten a number of pros

gogonuts [5d\]: g11 also didnt really make sense before
Sandalphon [5d\]: ANDY! yer not allowed to have breakfast and then try to recreate the game based on the current board position
Sisley [4k\]: do they have an anti doping test to pass ?
base [-\]: . . .
dinosaur [1d\]: they have to play a game of go against someone strong to ensure they are not dopes
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;B[ig]C[Sisley [4k\]: pro is just a title
Sisley [4k\]: i didnt emit any opinion about their skill
ThiGar [3k\]: But the title creates the man
gogonuts [5d\]: the fight at d9 was probably possible, but very risky
Sisley [4k\]: rank and value r diffrent things

gogonuts [5d\]: yes, they are not allowed to play with less than 3 cups of coffee
CrossKid [6d\]: lol I think there allowed to have needles in there head while they play ;)
CrossKid [6d\]: for acupuncture or however its spelt haha
ThiGar [3k\]: brilliant move! settles the top group while attacking
Sisley [4k\]: ho
dinosaur [1d\]: they are not allowed to place needles in the opponents head though
Sisley [4k\]: thats why asian people r so strong
Sandalphon [5d\]: actually caffeine is a big question for tournaments, it's definitely performance enhancing
Sandalphon [5d\]: but, unrelated to the game
CrossKid [6d\]: It was in one of the aga articles of a female player playing showing needles sticking out from her head
viu30h [5k\]: tee is a must for long games lol
base [-\]: many tournaments are sponsered by big coffee companies in Korea
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;W[jj]
;B[jk]C[palapiku [-\]: or noodles
Sandalphon [5d\]: I like black way better here, black has 1 iffy group,  white has 2
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;W[ii]
;B[hj]C[viu30h [5k\]: both w group can live locally right?
Euphony [3k\]: hard to ban caffeine. Even the olympics doesn't ban caffeine.
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;W[kj]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: yes, but living small loses a lot too
Warfreak2 [4d\]: water is performance-enhancing
base [-\]: gote life is never really a good option
viu30h [5k\]: yeah but not being able  to live would be even mroe scary
Sandalphon [5d\]: it would be extremely painful for white to play P18 for example
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;B[kk]C[littletry [7k\]: can someone please tell me, why there are two trees right now ???
viu30h [5k\]: yeah i know but its good to know you dont have to feel dieng any time soon
Sisley [4k\]: reviewer made a mistake
Warfreak2 [4d\]: because white asked to undo 8 moves
Sisley [4k\]: now is right tree
littletry [7k\]: ah
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;W[lk]C[littletry [7k\]: so someone clicks what they put on board right now ?
Koffein [-\]: little: misclick
Sisley [4k\]: :p
littletry [7k\]: nice
ThiGar [3k\]: epic running battle
Mef [-\]: Yes, this game is being played live over a board, and a person is watching it recording the mvoes
Sisley [4k\]: i dont really see what they r running for
benwa [4k\]: life in sente
Sandalphon [5d\]: white is hoping to connect his groups
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;B[mf]C[palapiku [-\]: well so much for that
ThiGar [3k\]: shoulder against shoulder on the curving track
Sandalphon [5d\]: and if not, to get to attack the left
Sisley [4k\]: just j9
Sisley [4k\]: and c15
Sandalphon [5d\]: j9 doesn't work
Sisley [4k\]: and take a big poit in sente ?
Koffein [-\]: j9 j8 h9 g8 
Sandalphon [5d\]: Koffein has it
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;W[ll]
;B[jm]C[palapiku [-\]: M8 dame?
Sisley [4k\]: so thats it ? whoever wins the battle wins the title ?
base [-\]: loser can win as well sisley
Sandalphon [5d\]: um, not necessarily
gogonuts [5d\]: no
gogonuts [5d\]: m8 is powerful
Sisley [4k\]: how is m8 dame ?
gogonuts [5d\]: the move in danger of beeing dame is n14
Sandalphon [5d\]: white needs to be careful of D7 though
benwa [4k\]: threatens to kill Koffein
benwa [4k\]: sequence
Sandalphon [5d\]: how would N14 be dame
Mef [-\]: poor Koffein )=
Sandalphon [5d\]: it cuts
Koffein [-\]: and of m10 
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;W[jo]
;B[kf]C[gogonuts [5d\]: thats certainly sente now
base [-\]: now white's gotta live in gote.
littletry [7k\]: L14 looks slow
gogonuts [5d\]: L14 is fine
palapiku [-\]: not really gote, b played n14 and l14 to seal w
Sisley [4k\]: n18 threaten w life ?
littletry [7k\]: prevent connection ?
gogonuts [5d\]: no sense in trampling on the eyes if w can easily move out
ThiGar [3k\]: middle looks like a  reverse avalanche winding up the reel 
Pyv [?\]: according to cga newletter GanSheng is a university student, so that'll confirm he isn't 11 from earlier
Tokedo [1k\]: w ignore and attack black's dragon?
gogonuts [5d\]: L14 already threatens life :-
Sisley [4k\]: there r 11yo uni studs
littletry [7k\]: wow
littletry [7k\]: thats 7k thoughts
nononono: there are 11 year old university students
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;W[ob]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: dragon is not easy to attack, L6 and F8 miai
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;B[pb]C[gogonuts [5d\]: imo n14 wasnt valuable enough to allow w m8
ThiGar [3k\]: was L14 sente on the top w gropu's life?
Sisley [4k\]: is b m10 doing anything ?
benwa [4k\]: gives white second eye, and cuts
Sandalphon [5d\]: well, n14 makws m10 morepowerful
gogonuts [5d\]: w has trouble making certain life?
Sisley [4k\]: what is taking w so much time ?
Sandalphon [5d\]: calculation
gogonuts [5d\]: in that case i would stop dissing n14 :-)
Demon [3d\]: seems difficult to live here
Pyv [?\]: wouldn't you take time to live correctly?
CrossKid [6d\]: seems painful to live here too :)
palapiku [-\]: w must remember b's throw-in sequence from the previous round :)
Sandalphon [5d\]: well, here's the question, if white tenukis, are we certain black can kill?
Sisley [4k\]: living there would sure takes me more time than a 7d
CrossKid [6d\]: hmm
Sisley [4k\]: n18 kills
ThiGar [3k\]: man, j13 & L14 such beautiful moves
gogonuts [5d\]: its hard enough to make certain life *with* a move imo
CrossKid [6d\]: it looks pretty dead if white tenuki :)
Sandalphon [5d\]: N18 certainly lives
Sandalphon [5d\]: O18 might live, it's worth more points
gogonuts [5d\]: n18 m17 m16 p19
Sandalphon [5d\]: Q15 is calling to me
nononono: this is crazy
Sisley [4k\]: what is q15 doing ?
nononono: call me maybe
ThiGar [3k\]: USGO1, could you update us on the players' clocks?
palapiku [-\]: he's not allowed to talk..
littletry [7k\]: but to update ?
Sandalphon [5d\]: after p19 black can't stop a second eye, just K19
nononono: they play at the US kngress?
gogonuts [5d\]: your right
nononono: thanks
gogonuts [5d\]: k19 is atleast seki after w q19
Sandalphon [5d\]: err, can't stop seki I mean
Sandalphon [5d\]: yeah
CrossKid [6d\]: whites thinking of a way to live better or to live without having to play here :)
CrossKid [6d\]: or he sees his death in some way that we dont 
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;W[mb]C[Sisley [4k\]: isnt that a simple shape for high dans ?
littletry [7k\]: wow  - the natural move
Sandalphon [5d\]: it is sente seki though
ThiGar [3k\]: white can relax now
Sandalphon [5d\]: I bet he was reading O18...
CrossKid [6d\]: simple shape or not :) should always take a good look at a position before playing your move
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;B[lj]C[CrossKid [6d\]: your probably right 
littletry [7k\]: ?? is it possible to say how many points sente doesn mean to these players ??
woodrose [?\]: here we go
palapiku [-\]: ten billion points
Sisley [4k\]: its possible
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;W[li]C[nononono: it depends on the position
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;B[mj]
;W[mi]C[gogonuts [5d\]: no, because the value of sente depends on the position
Sandalphon [5d\]: the problem here is that if white has to come back and live in the upper left, M8 is in deep trouble
gogonuts [5d\]: nononono :-)
Sisley [4k\]: just count the points the stone did
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;B[nj]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: if black gets L6 I think white is in a world of hurt
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;W[km]C[littletry [7k\]: ty sirs
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;B[il]C[nononono: c17 not yet alive
Sisley [4k\]: l12 c14 miai ?
Sandalphon [5d\]: not yet alive, but black can't just rush into that semeai... 
Sisley [4k\]: c15
shenzhen [3d\]: these guysplay really quick considering the importance of this match
littletry [7k\]: secure b4 attacking
woodrose [?\]: the quicker the better
nononono: B15 + L11 look promising
Demon [3d\]: looks like andy is in a good position to end up winning
Sandalphon [5d\]: L11 is premature, white will just get an eye at J13
Sisley [4k\]: theres a stone at j13
Sandalphon [5d\]: yeah, that stone will die :)
CrossKid [6d\]: he will use it sisley
CrossKid [6d\]: :)
GreedKills [2k\]: o11 seems important
benwa [4k\]: why not L 12 for a false eye? 
Sisley [4k\]: ah yes ur right
Sisley [4k\]: didnt read it
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;W[lg]C[shipshape [?\]: *** Live game commentary for the Game 3 match between Andy Liu and Gan Sheng Shi can by found on TYGEMGO (Korea 1 server) at 10:30 am EDT. http://www.tygembaduk.com *** 
benwa [4k\]: J13 still dies
benwa [4k\]: nvm
nononono: well cutting m11 seems fine for giving away j13
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;B[ni]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: black has to tenuki this
GreedKills [2k\]: yay
palapiku [-\]: ahhh
nononono: so w protected
palapiku [-\]: now b has a billion points
Sisley [4k\]: so n14 was useful
GreedKills [2k\]: o11 so big
GreedKills [2k\]: in terms of thickness
nononono: somehow w thought he needs to protect himself with m13
benwa [4k\]: peep didn't theaten?!
CrossKid [6d\]: this is really painfulfor white....
Sisley [4k\]: cause b took sente to cut then securing right side
palapiku [-\]: peep to cut two living groups...
Sandalphon [5d\]: w still not totally alive, L13 is still a move
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;W[po]
;B[lf]C[Kanin [-\]: yeah, at the professional level this is game over
ThiGar [3k\]: yes, m13 was for protection, not peep
mpepe16 [6d\]: fortunatly they are not professional
Sandalphon [5d\]: M14... I don't understand this move
CrossKid [6d\]: almost proffesional though ;)
GreedKills [2k\]: neither do I 
palapiku [-\]: chances are they will both be professional within a few days
nononono: sandalphon i thought w lives easily taking j13??
viu30h [5k\]: they have insane reading 
Sandalphon [5d\]: nononono: that's only if black cuts directly at L11
woodrose [?\]: m14 obvious
taringa [1k\]: want to kill p18?
nononono: one of them will be professional after this match
woodrose [?\]: really?
Sisley [4k\]: p18 alive
CrossKid [6d\]: Yes
minimalist [1k\]: m14 to separate f15?
fakeyou [1d\]: yes
Kanin [-\]: and was destined to be one of the first pros in this new system
Kanin [-\]: andy*
Sandalphon [5d\]: woodrose: not obvious, it means that black still has an attack on the upper left, but weaknesses with the G16 group prevent it
CBlue [?\]: andy lost yesterday's last game by a silly L&D blunder?
GreedKills [2k\]: i guess m14 threatens both b16 and p19?
woodrose [?\]: w needs a move
minimalist [1k\]: now g16 group is connected
Sisley [4k\]: so in 50 or 100 years, those guys will be considered as legends as the firsts us pro
nononono: I also think w has to protect
Sandalphon [5d\]: L13 steals an eye
base [-\]: they're already ledgends
ThiGar [3k\]: first b did not reply to m13 because g17 was alive. Second, after o11, m14 is an attacking move on d16 
Sisley [4k\]: living legend ?
fakeyou [1d\]: w position better if all alive
littletry [7k\]: that legend thing will be as you say
woodrose [?\]: m17 kills
spanglish [3k\]: h18
Sandalphon [5d\]: fakeyou: I disagree, white is very thin
taringa [1k\]: m17 m16 p19 o19 
fakeyou [1d\]: hm
Sisley [4k\]: i feel like all this defending thing is taking a lotta time to w
Sandalphon [5d\]: D7 needs protection, L6 is a very real cut, black has an approach at F3 to spoil the shape
CrossKid [6d\]: whites only big points are his lower left side 
Sisley [4k\]: cant he just c15 and go for big point ?
CrossKid [6d\]: black is doing a lot better
Kanin [-\]: crosskid, right, and those are not even points yet
CrossKid [6d\]: yep 
GreedKills [2k\]: andy is sure to end in sente i take it
Sandalphon [5d\]: this is not to say that Andy will win, but he has a lot of opportunities right now
SunRa [1k\]: can white lean on center black to make left big?
Kanin [6d\]: the white position is not much to hang in the christmas tree, as we would say in sweden
palapiku [-\]: andy could always suicide a group like yesterday :)
CrossKid [6d\]: Lol nice
Sandalphon [5d\]: SunRa: you mean M9?
CBlue [?\]: R9 ?
Kanin [6d\]: oh, pala, did he?
Sandalphon [5d\]: Kanin: nice
palapiku [-\]: he did
Sisley [4k\]: how m9 is on the left ?
Kanin [6d\]: but he won anyways?
CrossKid [6d\]: I dont think he could lean on it enoughsunra
palapiku [-\]: no, he lost
palapiku [-\]: gansheng won last game
]
;W[ek]C[ThiGar [3k\]: not much to write home about, this white position
CrossKid [6d\]: yeah its 1-1
Sandalphon [5d\]: oh, SunRa, you were talking about white
]
;B[be]C[kostuek [-\]: w 15k style but without failing
]
;W[bd]
;B[de]
;W[cd]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: L13
woodrose [?\]: Its like they both played this game before
Sandalphon [5d\]: white looking toasty
CrossKid [6d\]: nowblack has sente ouch
nononono: b likes my b15 plan at least
Sisley [4k\]: that would have happen sooner of later
ThiGar [3k\]: a 30 pts sente somewhere
GreedKills [2k\]: w does not yet have 2 eyes
SunRa [1k\]: w r9?
CBlue [?\]: well, w played E9, right, CrossKid? >_>
CrossKid [6d\]: whites looking almost dead i dont think he can make 2 eyes 
CBlue [?\]: so "sente"..
CrossKid [6d\]: yeah i missed that cblue :)
Sandalphon [5d\]: black might spend more moves on the H10 group though, so that he doesn't have to worry about semeai
CrossKid [6d\]: i only noticed it right after i said it
]
;B[fk]C[CBlue [?\]: well b cant kill w via J12 so it seeems okish?
CBlue [?\]: hehe^^
CrossKid [6d\]: he cant j12? why not?
GreedKills [2k\]: b satisfied that w must still respond
Sandalphon [5d\]: Wneeds J12
CrossKid [6d\]: thats what i thought haha
CBlue [?\]: cause w could use K13/14 aji i thiiink
GreedKills [2k\]: what's the best move on the right side for b?
CrossKid [6d\]: doesnt work cblue 
CBlue [?\]: :/
GreedKills [2k\]: q7?
]
;W[bg]C[SunRa [1k\]: f4
Sandalphon [5d\]: Greed: just O4 seems right
]
;B[cq]
;W[cp]
;B[dq]C[CrossKid [6d\]: he wants the corner first :)
ThiGar [3k\]: After f9, is the L6 cut easy?
]
;W[fq]
;B[oa]C[viu30h [5k\]: white appeareantly wants sente
Sisley [4k\]: thats a 3/1 corner ratio for b
base [-\]: i like f3 don't see it alot
]
;W[nb]C[GreedKills [2k\]: sandalphon, is that because the corner stone needs support?
]
;B[eq]
;W[ep]
;B[fr]C[viu30h [5k\]: b doesnt wanna give w sente
Sisley [4k\]: who would
Sisley [4k\]: ?
viu30h [5k\]: but if this works why the hell f3 a joseki?
Sandalphon [5d\]: Greed, I'd O4 because it aims at the L6 cut and if white plays R3 and joseki, black gets P6 in sente
woodrose [?\]: f3 is to get sente
]
;W[er]C[GreedKills [2k\]: cool
GreedKills [2k\]: thanks for the explanation
Sisley [4k\]: g3
nononono: side or corner
spanglish [3k\]: b4
nononono: g3
Sisley [4k\]: side works better with q3 right ?
]
;B[bp]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: I think I'd g3 too...having a solid group on the side seems better against K5
Sandalphon [5d\]: but this is not small
GreedKills [2k\]: w is committed to making territory there
indianayk [4d\]: L18 group dead if b goes first. rjght?
Sandalphon [5d\]: indianayk: no, looks like seki
nononono: b plans F4
Sisley [4k\]: i guess w would protect if l18 was meant to die so easily
ThiGar [3k\]: White's left side about 25 points
woodrose [?\]: how would you kill
palapiku [-\]: b's right side is about a billion points
indianayk [4d\]: m17,m16,k19,L19,m18m19,O19
Sandalphon [5d\]: not l19 indian, O19
woodrose [?\]: k19 m18
woodrose [?\]: wat
Sandalphon [5d\]: then it's seki
woodrose [?\]: o19 es
Sisley [4k\]: u need thousand go board to have billion points
ThiGar [3k\]: palapiku, a play at r10 and the lady vanishes
iceweasel [-\]: b right only about a million....
iceweasel [-\]: in binary
]
;W[bq]
;B[br]
;W[aq]C[palapiku [-\]: a play at r10 and a white group dies
]
;B[dr]
;W[bo]C[nononono: sisley no you can get billion points with only 1 game
Sandalphon [5d\]: black gets the side after all
]
;B[qk]
;W[fl]C[GreedKills [2k\]: r9 so instructive
]
;B[gl]C[indianayk [4d\]: O19? m19  will kill it
ThiGar [3k\]: r9 wise to prevent r10
woodrose [?\]: How did w finished gote
GreedKills [2k\]: r 9 only pincer that makes good shape with o10?
Sandalphon [5d\]: woodrose: white didn't want to have to come back to C6
]
;W[gr]C[Kanin [6d\]: oh, this is such a hopeless situation, I'm feeling bad
Sisley [4k\]: andy just so strong
palapiku [-\]: :(
woodrose [?\]: letting black r9 wasnt an option
BlackSmurf [2k\]: hi . who are the players plz ?
]
;B[es]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: BlackSmurf: B is bigbadwolf on kgs
Kanin [6d\]: you know, sometimes you know you're behind, but there is plenty of room to make it turn around, but here there is just.. nothing, it's too late
BlackSmurf [2k\]: i mean who's who ?
GreedKills [2k\]: w has too much to take care of
Sisley [4k\]: who's who what ?
BlackSmurf [2k\]: thx
Sandalphon [5d\]: black is andy liu
GreedKills [2k\]: literally evey group has problems
]
;W[gk]
;B[fj]
;W[fm]C[BlackSmurf [2k\]: i knew who the players were i just didnt know which color they had
KoelnerFC [3d?\]: why b isnt lucy liu?
kostuek [-\]: only 10 or 5 points ahead, just do a monster yose
nononono: not beautiful enough
CBlue [?\]: next move will be pretty interesting
CBlue [?\]: especially in the light of yesterday's loss
palapiku [-\]: BlackSmurf, you could tell that just by looking at who's ahead
KoelnerFC [3d?\]: @nonono: yesyesyes
Sisley [4k\]: because her brother is better at go
GreedKills [2k\]: looks like b needs to play something to keep his eyes
]
;B[kn]C[woodrose [?\]: l6
]
;W[ln]C[BlackSmurf [2k\]: well didnt andy lose last game ?
]
;B[jn]
;W[ko]
;B[lo]C[GreedKills [2k\]: m5
Sandalphon [5d\]: BlackSmurf: yeah, GanSheng killed him
]
;W[mn]C[palapiku [-\]: whos
palapiku [-\]: whoa
woodrose [?\]: its best-of-three? or what
nononono: the w position doesnt look very healthy
Sandalphon [5d\]: woodrose: yeah, andy won the first
woodrose [?\]: ok
Sandalphon [5d\]: this is game 3
ThiGar [3k\]: m5 already a bit greedy, no?
littletry [7k\]: WE ALL should try to bring the game of GO to schools in our neighbourhood. too few kids know about it. at least here in europe. should be part of education. something like logic stuff.
CBlue [?\]: j5 and double hane?
nononono: p5
Sandalphon [5d\]: m4 i think
base [-\]: my school doesn't want go in there
Sisley [4k\]: pressuring w right group looks better to me
indianayk [4d\]: andy is really aggressive today
Sisley [4k\]: ur school doesnt want go ?
littletry [7k\]: i heared of some teaching it
]
;B[bf]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: oh man...
kitsune [-\]: b14 confuses me
indianayk [4d\]: what?
Sandalphon [5d\]: b14 threatens to kill the upper left
base [-\]: yeah. they say it takes up too much time from the  students time to study
Lothus [1k\]: c13 in sente lol
kostuek [-\]: sente
littletry [7k\]: cut
ThiGar [3k\]: i'll never understand these types of moves. Can someone explain b14?
Sisley [4k\]: wait for it
osvaldo [1d\]: now white cant connect at b14 to save his group
Sandalphon [5d\]: B14 prevents the cut, so L13/J12 is threatened
Sandalphon [5d\]: to take the second eye
indianayk [4d\]: no matter what, b14 is odd at this time
kitsune [-\]: ahh. i missed j13 
littletry [7k\]: not for a guy with plans
Sandalphon [5d\]: I agree with you indian, why now? he can always play that
BlackSmurf [2k\]: i cuts w... b mlanning to attack top group maybe
osvaldo [1d\]: could he be in byo yomi?
Sisley [4k\]: small sente is better than big gote ?
nononono: b going for the attempted murder
BlackSmurf [2k\]: hmm crappy connection and android keyboard sry
base [-\]: depends on how 'big' the gote is
dinosaur [1d\]: small sente is not urgent and makes a good ko threat later
]
;W[hl]
;B[kl]C[nononono: both try to murder
ijoka [-\]: ah
Sandalphon [5d\]: there's a trap here, the question is for whom?
Sisley [4k\]: both :)
nononono: i wonder who will die and who will go to jail
ThiGar [3k\]: l8 should have been played before greedy m5
]
;W[lm]
;B[io]C[woodrose [?\]: b has read everything
ijoka [-\]: b14 created a 2nd eye
nononono: w has to come back to defend eventually
dinosaur [1d\]: how does b14 create an eye?
Sandalphon [5d\]: ijoka is right...
ijoka [-\]: e13/e14 combination
GreedKills [2k\]: c13 b12 e14 
CBlue [?\]: b14 also prevents w from connecting^^
nononono: b14 steals b14 for w to be safe
dinosaur [1d\]: oh, that's clever
ILLCoyote1 [4d\]: Will there be commentary of this game today as well?
]
;W[ip]C[dinosaur [1d\]: sometimes it almost seems like andy is pretty strong
kostuek [-\]: just read our comments
nononono: yes there already is on tygem
ijoka [-\]: lol dino
Cassis0 [5d\]: commentary? where do you find it? 
ijoka [-\]: sometimes, he has some promise
ijoka [-\]: could be a dan level player someday
ILLCoyote1 [4d\]: It's on already?  Korea I ?
ThiGar [3k\]: ok, thx ijoka! that was b14 true purpose! No wander i did notunderstand. Too high level.
nononono: one of them plays like a pro
nononono: only one!
dinosaur [1d\]: I expect they both play like pro
CBlue [?\]: hmm
Sisley [4k\]: wasnt that a quote from highlander ?
ijoka [-\]: no, white cant get 9d on kgs
ijoka [-\]: that's not quite pro level i think
CBlue [?\]: can b actually H7 ?
Euphony [3k\]: I'm sure you all know this, but I was surprised to see Andy's AGA rating is 9.2   That's pretty high imo
death101 [4k?\]: alive
nononono: myung wan has 10+ AGA, right?
Sandalphon [5d\]: if h7, black threatens 2 gote eyes, and will have time to kill white's dragon
Sandalphon [5d\]: at least I think
]
;B[hn]C[ijoka [-\]: miai everywhere
ijoka [-\]: and putting m5 into play
]
;W[hm]
;B[hp]C[nononono: now w needs to defend or die in vayne
benwa [4k\]: vain
Sisley [4k\]: j7 :)
nononono: yes 
CBlue [?\]: hm but b also needs to defend more now. but w looks very thin i guess
GreedKills [2k\]: black connects out?
death101 [4k?\]: who is playing wat color?
shenzhen [3d\]: w seems super think
shenzhen [3d\]: thin*
GreedKills [2k\]: k4 or g3
nononono: w should better defend right now
nononono: his dragon
]
;W[jq]C[littletry [7k\]: so left side is white only big terr ?
littletry [7k\]: looks smaller than black upper right
ijoka [-\]: his dragon is really hard to kill
death101 [4k?\]: alive big time
CBlue [?\]: well w gets n4 it seems
death101 [4k?\]: g3
Sisley [4k\]: j4 g3 :)
ijoka [-\]: o4
ddUsopp [2k\]: g3  small no?
Sisley [4k\]: puns aways
GreedKills [2k\]: maybe b is going to make his move against the upper left group
ddUsopp [2k\]: o4 is ok)
Sisley [4k\]: what about m5 ?
Sandalphon [5d\]: g3,h3, f4, g5?
littletry [7k\]: andy has fighting spirit
Sandalphon [5d\]: ah, nm, g3, h3 g4
CBlue [?\]: g3 first? or is that slow? ^^
ijoka [-\]: g3 must be slow but maybe it threatens the dragon
ddUsopp [2k\]: g3 slow
ddUsopp [2k\]: w can ignore ant move o4 or so
]
;B[lp]C[ijoka [-\]: blacks problem is h11 is somewhat sente
CBlue [?\]: woot
woodrose [?\]: looks okay
Sandalphon [5d\]: ijoka: there's a better move than h11
nononono: poor w gets destroyed
GreedKills [2k\]: always pressure
ijoka [-\]: a white stone at h11 is painful
]
;W[hq]
;B[gp]C[woodrose [?\]: since g6 sente theres an eye at g5
Sandalphon [5d\]: now I'm super confused
Sisley [4k\]: about what ?
CBlue [?\]: m4 much more awesome than it looked at first
Jye [2k\]: sente eye and then attack
CBlue [?\]: w totally in trouble and b easily safe
Sandalphon [5d\]: black could have g3 and white has to come back and protect
death101 [4k?\]: black win
nononono: j2?
Sandalphon [5d\]: so black still gets M4
ijoka [-\]: white would have taken o4
WhiteRawr [6d\]: w's cooked 
CBlue [?\]: well but this way w has 2 separate groups
death101 [4k?\]: whites dead
CBlue [?\]: hm
ozjohn [4k\]: white f4 may be possible
ThiGar [3k\]: k3 dead or white gets bottom right
ijoka [-\]: middle dragon is pretty ok for w
Sandalphon [5d\]: ijoka, no time... w has to protect or lose the eye at L11
WhiteRawr [6d\]: obviously w will try f4 
ThiGar [3k\]: black*
littletry [7k\]: will w give up ?
ijoka [-\]: i dont think white has a hard time keeping l11 eye
CBlue [?\]: couldnt w just have played n4 in response to b g3, Sandalphonß
CBlue [?\]: ?
]
;W[gq]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: k4 still going to be there later
]
;B[gn]
;W[gm]C[GreedKills [2k\]: squeeeeze
]
;B[fp]C[ijoka [-\]: because white h11 is sente
ijoka [-\]: that eye looks safe enough
Sisley [4k\]: i think w gonna have a hard time w n6
]
;W[im]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: ooer
]
;B[in]C[Sisley [4k\]: j7 zzz move ?
Sandalphon [5d\]: ijoka: now it's sente, it wasn't before black played G6
nononono: why not k4 first?
WhiteRawr [6d\]: l3 now
]
;W[hi]
;B[gj]C[ijoka [-\]: im not following
ThiGar [3k\]: ???
]
;W[fo]
;B[go]C[ijoka [-\]: it seemed sente the entire time to me
Sandalphon [5d\]: ijoka: there was a shortage of liberties
Sisley [4k\]: what is w doing ?
ijoka [-\]: no because white never needs to push at j7
kitsune [-\]: lets do the Timewarp again
ijoka [-\]: so white had plenty of liberties for it
CBlue [?\]: it's just a step to the right
ddUsopp [2k\]: h9 j9 e12 e11 ?
]
;W[kq]
;B[fn]C[death101 [4k?\]: whites think oh man!
]
;W[en]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: hmm
]
;B[eo]
;W[dn]
;B[cg]
;W[bh]
;B[eg]C[ijoka [-\]: anyway, if white didnt have h11
ijoka [-\]: he would have resigned
death101 [4k?\]: j2 kind huge I think
Ojisama [-\]: first class reading
yithril [-\]: Is the game recorder like not following?
Sisley [4k\]: what with usgo ?
littletry [7k\]: mistake at stme 78
viu30h [5k\]: hes double checking and is too lazy to use offline view
Sandalphon [5d\]: ijoka: you're right, shortage doesn't hold
Sisley [4k\]: e14 :p
viu30h [5k\]: or she of c
death101 [4k?\]: I am happy to have him broadcast
ijoka [-\]: black takes gote... wha will white do lower right that works?
littletry [7k\]: perfect
ddUsopp [2k\]: e12 e11 g14 o3 ?
nononono: I dont understand why b did not play k4 and squeeze instead of defending at j6
CrossKid [6d\]: omg... woah what happend 
littletry [7k\]: o3 ?
Sandalphon [5d\]: no, actually N12 still threatens to take the eye
rsun [4d\]: e14 f13 g14 g13 h13 h14 j14 
nononono: I guess w is cooked now
Sisley [4k\]: o4 ?
ddUsopp [2k\]: e12 e11 g14 e14 o3 
ijoka [-\]: n12, ohhh
Sandalphon [5d\]: I think black should take L4 and j2 right now though
Sandalphon [5d\]: after he makes the eye, white can give up the stones
GreedKills [2k\]: yeah
ijoka [-\]: ok n12 doestn work
ijoka [-\]: because j13 has shortage
ijoka [-\]: black will have to take gote
ijoka [-\]: and white gets lower right move... but does anythign work?
Sandalphon [5d\]: wait, J13 has shortage? how?
Sandalphon [5d\]: K13, H14 no?
Sisley [4k\]: sandalphon, after l4 and j2, if b takes gote, then w can capture m5
Sisley [4k\]: ?
ijoka [-\]: w will get a move like g14 in sente now
ThiGar [3k\]: simpler: J2 connects or kills
ijoka [-\]: right?
]
;W[ei]
;B[eh]C[CBlue [?\]: k13 j14 instead of h14, no?
]
;W[hk]
;B[ik]C[GreedKills [2k\]: maybe w will try to end it here
ijoka [-\]: j14 instead of k13
Sisley [4k\]: thats a lot of forcing moves
Warfreak2 [4d\]: maybe w has to try
GreedKills [2k\]: there's a lot of liberties on both sides
]
;W[ef]C[rsun [4d\]: e14 semeai
benwa [4k\]: arg!
ThiGar [3k\]: ???
adana [2k\]: hhhrrrrr
]
;B[fg]C[Sisley [4k\]: e14 
GreedKills [2k\]: yup
CBlue [?\]: reality has been altered
]
;W[gf]C[CBlue [?\]: woot
Warfreak2 [4d\]: not that many libs
shenzhen [3d\]: wozer
osvaldo [1d\]: wow this is exctiing
wallh [4k\]: wooow
CrossKid [6d\]: i think white wins by 1 liberty
GreedKills [2k\]: it will end here
]
;B[gg]C[drivenrain [-\]: wait for it
]
;W[hg]C[benwa [4k\]: oh yeah!
nononono: w = cooked
]
;B[hf]C[shenzhen [3d\]: if andy lose i will be so sad
rsun [4d\]: great undo
]
;W[if]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: b has just two at a15/a14
gdghgjd [3d\]: crosskid, ^^
]
;B[he]C[Euphony [3k\]: wow
wallh [4k\]: white read something ?
CrossKid [6d\]: yo?
]
;W[jg]C[ijoka [-\]: white lost
]
;B[cj]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: so b has five liberties total, one is a ko
]
;W[bj]C[ijoka [-\]: too bad
dinosaur [1d\]: if andy loses he gets another chance against osmeone he already beat
Warfreak2 [4d\]: e11 and j8 are -1 each, so c15 and d14 are cancelled
shenzhen [3d\]: seki with the corner ? :)
Shanshui [3k\]: nah, this is action reply
Warfreak2 [4d\]: a glitch in the matrix
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it happens when they change something
wallh [4k\]: black pill or white pill ?
Sisley [4k\]: they cahnge what ?
inte [?\]: copying moves to a different window?
Mef [-\]: maybe the tygem record was behind?
Sandalphon [5d\]: either way, black let this become complicated
Sandalphon [5d\]: and it shouldn't have been
rsun [4d\]: andy stated that he didn't want to become pro, so he's just playing for fun
]
;B[mh]C[yithril [-\]: what a great way to start of the AGA pro system
GreedKills [2k\]: WHAT
Sisley [4k\]: is he going to loose on purpose ?
palapiku [-\]: no
GreedKills [2k\]: andy is like hikaru in episode 3
drivenrain [-\]: like in badminton ?
CBlue [?\]: did he mean he didnt want to become a pro in asia, or did he really refer to us pro?
Sisley [4k\]: hikaru doesnt want to be pro ?
viu30h [5k\]: that andy statement is outdated
viu30h [5k\]: wy outdated
Warfreak2 [4d\]: seems to work for b
rsun [4d\]: he can still get the pro title and never live a pro life
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i.e. impossible ko for w
Mef [-\]: I bevlieve andy's statement was prior to the announcement of the AGA pro system
Sandalphon [5d\]: rsun: he has to go to Korea though... for a year
rsun [4d\]: oh
Ojisama [-\]: then he should be happy to go there
Ojisama [-\]: korea is awesome
base [-\]: for a year? i thought it as only 6 months
fakeyou [1d\]: whaat
WhiteRawr [6d\]: rsun: many tournaments restrict participation to amateurs
base [-\]: and kroea is great
fakeyou [1d\]: the end?
rsun [4d\]: unlimited kimchi and bibimbab
Sisley [4k\]: how is korea awesome ?
ThiGar [3k\]: rsun, the two selected pros will start with a year of training in Korea. In which interview did Andy Liy claim he does not want to be a pro, as you claim?
base [-\]: have you ever been?
yithril [-\]: how is it not awesome?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: bulgogi
viu30h [5k\]: lol if andy gets title and doesnt do the pro work aga is gonna throw him out and ban him from all tourneys lol
wallh [4k\]: of course not -.-
rsun [4d\]: I don't think it was a formal interview
CBlue [?\]: minus- depending on city, within range of north korean artillery
viu30h [5k\]: so much organization work and sponsorship and stuff    than the pro sais no i wanna stay home and play mario kart instead
Sisley [4k\]: if he didnt wanted to be pro he wouldnt have take in the tournament
ThiGar [3k\]: so easy to start rumors
Sandalphon [5d\]: looks like andy wins the race, by 1, not including the ko
Sisley [4k\]: so stop thinking out
fakeyou [1d\]: Andy dreams about pro
shikasta [1d\]: whos who..srry on phone
]
;W[lh]C[Sisley [4k\]: andy b, shi w
shikasta [1d\]: thx
]
;B[kg]
;W[kh]
;B[ji]
;W[ki]
;B[jf]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: my reading is w has to win two kos
Sisley [4k\]: they should really do sth about phones
shenzhen [3d\]: b wins i think
]
;W[ih]
;B[mg]C[Mef [-\]: It's hard to format it well on phone for demo games )=
Sandalphon [5d\]: and Andy is the first AGA pro :)
GreedKills [2k\]: it is done
viu30h [5k\]: go history being written right now
Sandalphon [5d\]: white can't win the kos on both sides
ThiGar [3k\]: Man, I think we collectively killed that rumor about Andy not wanting to be a pro.
Sandalphon [5d\]: not enough threats
Jakarutu [?\]: white resignes
viu30h [5k\]: while im in my store and hopefully have no customers in the next min
Warfreak2 [4d\]: c10 is very nice, i just figured it out
WhiteRawr [6d\]: w lost, double ko
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's so after e8 local threat, b still has one more threat
wallh [4k\]: please explain Warfreak =D
Sisley [4k\]: so andy got revenge for his yesterday dead group ?
Sandalphon [5d\]: not double ko, but 2 kos
WhiteRawr [6d\]: right
WhiteRawr [6d\]: my bad
Ojisama [-\]: -2d for you rawr!
Sandalphon [5d\]: he still can't win both though
Warfreak2 [4d\]: he can try
Sandalphon [5d\]: he has to win the one at J14 first
adana [2k\]: is the game over?
]
;W[ce]C[Rochedale [6k\]: Still going! :)
Sisley [4k\]: can usgo say sth about what is happening ?
fakeyou [1d\]: even if w dead, w still can win?
taringa [1k\]: :(
]
;B[id]C[kostuek [-\]: how many steps
]
;W[df]
;B[ig]
;W[if]
;B[ie]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: and that means that J3 L4, both threats
spanglish [3k\]: OO
rsun [4d\]: as over as clover
Ephemere [3d\]: aaaand  it's gone
CBlue [?\]: well there are no threats for this anyway^^
]
;W[oq]C[viu30h [5k\]: lol
Sisley [4k\]: threats r coming
CBlue [?\]: uhu
viu30h [5k\]: b can answer even right?
]
;B[ir]C[Ojisama [-\]: p3 = i'll never ever give up on my dream!
Sisley [4k\]: and booom
]
;W[iq]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: he can taste the 1p
CBlue [?\]: p3 induces hugs
nononono: never gonna give you up
]
;B[lq]C[shenzhen [3d\]: its double ko right?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no
Warfreak2 [4d\]: approach ko
spanglish [3k\]: no 2 knos
shenzhen [3d\]: why?
ijoka [-\]: ko:impossible
shenzhen [3d\]: clone to show?
Sandalphon [5d\]: because the kos are on 2 different groups
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i cloned in kgs teaching ladder
Sandalphon [5d\]: you can't respond to one ko by taking the other
]
;W[kp]C[ijoka [-\]: the f5 ko isnt urgent
nononono: o3?
]
;B[or]C[shenzhen [3d\]: ah no i got it
Sandalphon [5d\]: well, the ko would start with A15
]
;W[op]C[shenzhen [3d\]: lots of local threats for b anyway though
shenzhen [3d\]: so no chance for w
nononono: o3
CBlue [?\]: p4 not going the ko-threatening way? >_>
kostuek [-\]: well, this w is sneaky
]
;B[kr]
;W[jr]
;B[mr]C[Ojisama [-\]: this white is toast
nononono: w got destroyed
Sisley [4k\]: b was leading before killing center
dinosaur [1d\]: I frequently destroy toasty
Pyv [?\]: white needs 2 threats?
Ojisama [-\]: oh our Saurien friend is back
Sandalphon [5d\]: I bet Cho Hunyhyun is looking at this game and saying "I could have killed that black"
shikasta [1d\]: who won in ilyas match btw
adana [2k\]: ilya
ijoka [-\]: j2 is such a wonderful move
Ephemere [3d\]: ilya won
viu30h [5k\]: ilya luckily of course
]
;W[ks]C[nononono: ilja played like a god
]
;B[qr]C[Bazilikan [-\]: when does eurogo show?
Sisley [4k\]: when will there be european pro system ?
viu30h [5k\]: ilya played like someone who knows his opp is in byo yomi
kostuek [-\]: now its time?
shikasta [1d\]: lol i left thinking he diidnt have a chance
Inushogun [2k\]: whom Ilya was playing with?
Ojisama [-\]: i'm expecting some asian overplay now =)
]
;W[qp]C[arczi [4k\]: why is it AGA Pro finals ?
]
;B[nq]C[Ojisama [-\]: he was playing with Thomas Debarre
viu30h [5k\]: yeah now that there still ama they can overplay
Mef [-\]: because this is the final tournament to qualify two AGA professional players
CBlue [?\]: show is over
nononono: ilja had a very difficut position and it looked grim for him but then he thought like 30min and played like a god
Inushogun [2k\]: Ojisama, thanks
Ojisama [-\]: :)
palapiku [-\]: shouldn't w have resigned a while ago
arczi [4k\]: in usa they have pro league now ?
]
;W[pk]C[shikasta [1d\]: ilya andy would b interesting
Sisley [4k\]: starting tomorow
ThiGar [3k\]: after AGA pro, European pro, Asian Pro associations, we need World Series!
Inushogun [2k\]: where I can see this game?
viu30h [5k\]: ilya andy?  andy might give ilya a stone or  two
benwa [4k\]: Yes, thank you to the dan and high level players for clarifying ideas
Mef [-\]: The Korean Baduk Association is helping establish a system in the US/Canada
palapiku [-\]: ilya-andy would start the new cold war
Mef [-\]: Two qualifying players will play for a year in tourmaments in korea
shikasta [1d\]: haha
yithril [-\]: two per year from now on?
nononono: komi maybe but never 2 stones
Mef [-\]: for the near future at least, yithril
ThiGar [3k\]: ilya-andy remake of Spassky- Fisher?
viu30h [5k\]: ilyas strenght is based on his opp not being able to punish him
Sandalphon [5d\]: Seriously though, I almost never say this, but white should resign
viu30h [5k\]: andy certainly can punish ilyas overplay 
Sandalphon [5d\]: he needs to save his strength for this afternoon
Sisley [4k\]: except that spassky fisher were world top
ThiGar [3k\]: viu30h, it's not nice, you are implying he overplays!
rsun [4d\]: b thinking how to make w resign
Kanin [6d\]: the beast from the east vs the big bad wolf
littletry [7k\]: resign a while ago
Sandalphon [5d\]: so wait... does the big bad wolf blow it?
viu30h [5k\]: thigar   look at the debarre ilya game as soon as b got into byo yomi   than you see what i mean -.-
shikasta [1d\]: ilya maybe pay attention against andy
Sandalphon [5d\]: *ba dum cha!*
Kanin [6d\]: he huffs and puffs, but then again, so does ilya if you are to go by his profile pictures in the past...
ThiGar [3k\]: bbw blow what? ths straw house?
Ojisama [-\]: blow"s" please with an s :)
nononono: viu I guess you didnt understand and see the brilliance of iljas play after he got in trouble
ThiGar [3k\]: lol
palapiku [-\]: he huffs and he puffs
]
;B[qj]C[spanglish [3k\]: dinner break
]
;W[qe]C[Sisley [4k\]: yeah yeah we got it
Inushogun [2k\]: Where this game - Shikshin vs Debarre was played?
palapiku [-\]: european go congress
Ojisama [-\]: the first broadcast
]
;B[pe]
;W[pd]C[CBlue [?\]: what does R15 do?
]
;B[qc]C[Mef [-\]: EuroGoTV1 has the record
rsun [4d\]: resign sequence
Inushogun [2k\]: oh, thank you!
arczi [4k\]: http://www.egc2012.eu/congress/tournaments/open-european-championship
]
;W[ql]C[palapiku [-\]: it's kind of antisocial that european and american congresses are at the exact same time
palapiku [-\]: some players would come to both
Warfreak2 [4d\]: m17 pretty big, no?
]
;B[rl]C[Mef [-\]: palapiku - US congress hasn't starteed yet
Sandalphon [5d\]: Warfreak: only about 4 points
]
;W[qm]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: oh, seki
palapiku [-\]: oh, really? i thought this tournament was part of US congress
Kanin [6d\]: 4pts sente = 8pts?
ThiGar [3k\]: both congresses could be held together midway on a carrier
]
;B[rm]C[bobstep [5k\]: or look up user eurogo1 and get the game
Mef [-\]: This is a special event the week before the US congress
Warfreak2 [4d\]: 4 points sente = 4 points
palapiku [-\]: oh thx
Warfreak2 [4d\]: 4 points gote = 2 points
Kanin [6d\]: sophistry
monk316 [1k?\]: cool
nononono: still there could be more delay or time difference between the 2 congress
monk316 [1k?\]: it's not really a bbw game unless something big dies
]
;W[qf]
;B[qg]C[palapiku [-\]: something big did die
]
;W[rg]
;B[qh]C[monk316 [1k?\]: i know
Warfreak2 [4d\]: egf and aga could together rent an island in the atlantic
Sisley [4k\]: how is this supposed to live ? ko ?
evanj [3d\]: can someone pls post the url again about this tournament?
palapiku [-\]: canary islands?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: host a western go congress
nononono: s16 t15
Mef [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-system
evanj [3d\]: thanks
wallh [4k\]: thanks
spanglish [3k\]: or a virtual island
viu30h [5k\]: a ship will be enough
palapiku [-\]: they could just meet halfway between us and europe
viu30h [5k\]: the western go ss
palapiku [-\]: in Beijing
ThiGar [3k\]: canary-iceland-cuba triangle 
]
;W[af]C[CBlue [?\]: b has p8 hard karami now anyway
]
;B[ig]C[Pyv [?\]: What threat
evanj [3d\]: so winner of this game is AGA pro, yes?
nononono: s16
Warfreak2 [4d\]: s16 threat i guess
Mef [-\]: yes
evanj [3d\]: am i understanding correctly?
evanj [3d\]: neato
ThiGar [3k\]: the first ever!
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w needs three more after s16
]
;W[rd]
;B[rc]
;W[if]
;B[ae]C[Inushogun [2k\]: evanj, yes
Warfreak2 [4d\]: ok, w needs four more
viu30h [5k\]: ehmm even if white lives can he win?
evanj [3d\]: wait, what about the other half? has gan already won?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: five more
evanj [3d\]: sorry for the sudden barrage of stupid questions that have inevitably already been discussed
nononono: s15
Mef [-\]: Loser of this game plays a playoff to decide the other qualifier
rsun [4d\]: what's the other half
cbus [2d?\]: is the game over?
palapiku [-\]: yes, evanj
viu30h [5k\]: can eric still become pro?
evanj [3d\]: ah, ok
palapiku [-\]: no eric is out
evanj [3d\]: so gan plays loser of this game to determine 2nd pro
CrossKid [6d\]: no viu 
Sandalphon [5d\]: viu: next year
palapiku [-\]: gan plays loser, yes
CrossKid [6d\]: eric is seeded for next year though
evanj [3d\]: thanks, alles klar
CrossKid [6d\]: he gets a free slot to play in it :)
viu30h [5k\]: ah   would have nice to have a calmer player
monk316 [1k?\]: where are andy's ko threats
rsun [4d\]: right here
monk316 [1k?\]: m17 not big enough
palapiku [-\]: local threats monk
Sisley [4k\]: a16 :)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: andy has threats at e8, either e7 or c9, and at b11
Sandalphon [5d\]: after WA13, A12 is a threat, K8 is a threat
Warfreak2 [4d\]: and one by connecting at j8
]
;W[re]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: oh, and d5 is a threat for b
monk316 [1k?\]: oh, i see
]
;B[el]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: and now he has 1 more threat
]
;W[dl]
;B[sf]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: i presume all of these are ko threats and answers
]
;W[ag]
;B[ig]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: well, no, E8 was making another threat
palapiku [-\]: wasn't e8 wasting a threat?
Sandalphon [5d\]: no
wallh [4k\]: no
]
;W[rh]C[CBlue [?\]: w gets a free move, yay
Sandalphon [5d\]: because black would never have time to play 3 moves
palapiku [-\]: can't b just let w live on the right?
rsun [4d\]: no
shenzhen [3d\]: b can kinda do what he wants
viu30h [5k\]: then top corner dead
dinosaur [1d\]: I'm not sure b could let w live there if he tried
Justus [8k\]: tygem commentary said yes
palapiku [-\]: yes he can?
viu30h [5k\]: then he certainly can
Sisley [4k\]: sure
viu30h [5k\]: 9p is always right xD
Sisley [4k\]: they have obama now so they ca
WhiteRawr [6d\]: b can afford to lsoe corner
Sisley [4k\]: n
viu30h [5k\]: unless lee sedol comes and argues
benwa [4k\]: haha
wallh [4k\]: who's commentating on tygem ?
rsun [4d\]: kim
Sandalphon [5d\]: Myung Wan Kim
]
;B[ji]C[CBlue [?\]: b can attack n6 anyway right?
ThiGar [3k\]: if black takes k11, he's got right away a sente on n6
palapiku [-\]: yay
nononono: s12 was super strange
Wagaboo [4k\]: w wins
spanglish [3k\]: trade
shenzhen [3d\]: w still looks dead right?
Sandalphon [5d\]: even in the very odd situation where R17 dies, M7 is also in danger
CBlue [?\]: yeah w dead
nononono: can someone explain s12?
Kanin [6d\]: the situation for m6 and co is quite difficult to see clearly
Warfreak2 [4d\]: s12 try to win a semeai with the corner
Kanin [6d\]: but I'd say it dies if w doesn't add a stone?
nononono: s12 looks like missclick in real life
shenzhen [3d\]: myungwan put and stone on o7 and said you can attack here
Wagaboo [4k\]: r17  dies BEFORE l17
shenzhen [3d\]: but didnt show any lines
Warfreak2 [4d\]: l17 doesn't die
rsun [4d\]: what does kim think about the quality of these games?
shenzhen [3d\]: l17 what are you on?
palapiku [-\]: i doubt kim would say anything about that
]
;W[qi]C[palapiku [-\]: he's polite
shenzhen [3d\]: he thought b played not bad this game, couple of slack moves
shenzhen [3d\]: he thought w play not great today
shenzhen [3d\]: maybe cos of nerves
viu30h [5k\]: s14?
eve20 [1k\]: test
CBlue [?\]: s10 ?
shenzhen [3d\]: he already stopped comm cos he said its gg, b wins
Sisley [4k\]: they will soon fight against kim, and all the cho and lee
viu30h [5k\]: dont forget the parks
Sisley [4k\]: yep
Sisley [4k\]: the park r strong 2
viu30h [5k\]: jung hwang is curently nr1 in korea right?
A1R [2k\]: zea
A1R [2k\]: yea
Ojisama [-\]: yep
Wagaboo [4k\]: s12 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: s14?
P1507 [10k\]: Are these players amtueru or pro
nononono: b kills s16 now but w gets sth in exchange
Warfreak2 [4d\]: they are fighting to become pro
Ojisama [-\]: they're amapro =)
Sisley [4k\]: andy is pro
P1507 [10k\]: is this a pro exam game
P1507 [10k\]: ???
Sisley [4k\]: well in 5mn
Minjhou [10k\]: b s11?
wallh [4k\]: yes
gnarf [1k\]: yes
Inushogun [2k\]: when will we have pros in Europe (
spanglish [3k\]: they are insei
Koffein [-\]: p1507, yes. the winner will become pro
P1507 [10k\]: wow
rsun [4d\]: they're 1/sqrt2 ( |ama> + |pro>)
viu30h [5k\]: when we have strong players like andy in europe maybe?
gnarf [1k\]: when we get sponsors
P1507 [10k\]: thats amazing to see it
wallh [4k\]: don't we have a pro league coming up in europe too ?
A1R [2k\]: easiest pro exam ever ;)
monk316 [1k?\]: wait, the winner just became pro right?
shenzhen [3d\]: maybe can s14 now
Inushogun [2k\]: viu, Ilya is strong enough
palapiku [-\]: nooo
viu30h [5k\]: hes not
monk316 [1k?\]: this was the final
weiqidevil [-\]: are the players playing live on tygem?
adana [2k\]: is it over
Sisley [4k\]: over
viu30h [5k\]: ilya has very bad statistics against pros and korean ama and stuff  worse than pop or catalin and stuff
mpepe16 [6d\]: But I think these guys at least 1 stone weaker than real first class inseis.
spanglish [3k\]: a special room created for them
Sisley [4k\]: andy won
nononono: s11 q11 q13 s10 s14 s9 
monk316 [1k?\]: so bbw is first pro?
Sisley [4k\]: yep
monk316 [1k?\]: cool
rsun [4d\]: is he crying?
base [-\]: resign?
monk316 [1k?\]: thanks
Sisley [4k\]: yep
ThiGar [3k\]: White resigned USGO1?
rsun [4d\]: controller escaped
littletry [7k\]: w put a stone and then resigned ?
A1R [2k\]: where do you see, he is crying?
littletry [7k\]: lol
palapiku [-\]: gg
Sisley [4k\]: nobody's on tygem either ?
rsun [4d\]: I have no clue why east asian countries are so attached to windows
KochKoch [3k\]: the game is not over
adana [2k\]: worst tournament controller ever
Ojisama [-\]: windows is the best
benwa [4k\]: huh?
Sisley [4k\]: the best what ?
rsun [4d\]: I can't log on to any of their go servers, minus IGS
Ojisama [-\]: i won't continue on that subject
adana [2k\]: i mean usgo1
Pyv [?\]: to look outside
Ojisama [-\]: let's talk about the game
Euphony [3k\]: Yeah, I like being able to see out of my house. I'm sure the Asians feel the same way.
rsun [4d\]: what about the game
palapiku [-\]: what game
Sisley [4k\]: there's no much to talk about anymore
Justus [8k\]: tygem stopped one move earlier
weiqidevil [-\]: on tygem, r11 was not even played -- why?
Justus [8k\]: j11 last move there
ThiGar [3k\]: anybody can call Black Mountain?
Mef [-\]: perhaps W put two stones on the board with R1
Mef [-\]: 1
viu30h [5k\]: can b play s14 here or this give white too much libs to kill r17?
Mef [-\]: as a symbol of resigning
KochKoch [3k\]: I'm at the site - the game is still in progress
Koffein [-\]: mef, 1 stone for each broadcast? :-)
ThiGar [3k\]: no video stream?
viu30h [5k\]: usgo would tell us
weiqidevil [-\]: so they are playing on real board and not on tygem?
weiqidevil [-\]: real boards*
KochKoch [3k\]: Real board, broadcast to Tygem and KGS
Mef [-\]: Well, the AGA pro rules only permit two means of resignation Koffein, playing two stones is one of them (=
weiqidevil [-\]: ah thanks
shenzhen [3d\]: kochkoch then where is usgo1?
rsun [4d\]: escaped
KochKoch [3k\]: Connection problems
shenzhen [3d\]: you can play it out for us in a clone? :)
palapiku [-\]: so what are the moves kochkoch
palapiku [-\]: is b corner dead??
spanglish [3k\]: somebody get the us
Mef [-\]: or give us play by play....like a radio announcer (=
ThiGar [3k\]: KochKoch, possible for you to quickly go to their table?
viu30h [5k\]: a mad gansheng shi fan stormed the room put all people to sleep and now trys to alter the result
nononono: s11 q11 q13 s10 s14 is my guess
Tokedo [1k\]: lunch break?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: s11 isn't going anywhere useful
littletry [7k\]: pee
shenzhen [3d\]: if you wanna do that just do s14 straight away nononono
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if you want to s14 you can do it directly
palapiku [-\]: this would be a strange time for a lunch break
ThiGar [3k\]: did black put his next move ina sealed enveloppe to resume after lunch?
shenzhen [3d\]: q11 s11 q10 s10 s9 t9 t13 t16 s14 t17 t15 s19 maybe
shenzhen [3d\]: everybody lives
palapiku [-\]: doesn't w have to kill the corner or resign
gdghgjd [3d\]: s14 loses the game, not enough I think
Ojisama [-\]: imagine that usgo1 comes back and tells us that andy lost
Ojisama [-\]: :)
CBlue [?\]: wouldnt believe it :p
evanj [3d\]: wait... what happened?
Mef [-\]: connection problems on sitre
evanj [3d\]: oh
rsun [4d\]: so what's going on on tygem
nononono: somebody set up us the bomb?
Mef [-\]: Probably so the E-J can make the big announcement before it hits twitter (=
evanj [3d\]: good timing
viu30h [5k\]: maybe usgo is trolling us
viu30h [5k\]: or andy asked usgo to troll us
rsun [4d\]: usgo figured how to keep 100+ people in a finished game room
shenzhen [3d\]: heh
spanglish [3k\]: they are preparing the fireworks
Mef [-\]: honestly, they might not let them log back in....I know there was an issue with keyboard typing noise from the recorders....
spanglish [3k\]: keyboards typing by tehmselfs?
wallh [4k\]: recorders souldn't type then -.-
Mef [-\]: If the recorders don't type they can't log in
nononono: well 1 mouseclick per move should be doable
rsun [4d\]: when they get to korea I don't think their fellow trainees will treat them very nicely
spanglish [3k\]: why
evanj [3d\]: probably shouldn't have been saying what they're typing under their breath
rsun [4d\]: at least some won't
Illyria [?\]: get quieter keyboards
Mef [-\]: the keyboards are attached the the computers  unfortunately.....I'm sure if someoen wants to donate quiet computers to the AGA they would happily accept them
shenzhen [3d\]: cos they get pro with so little effort and so little skill --- relatively :)
evanj [3d\]: are they using manual typewriters
Mef [-\]: they use netbooks
Mef [-\]: ah, USGO1 is back
wallh [4k\]: =O
nononono: well in any case a pro system needs viewer and people who are interested in it - so working like this wont do too well in the future
palapiku [-\]: don't worry nononono, the game records will be syndicated to all the major newspapers
viu30h [5k\]: japan must have had similar troubles when they started there pro system
nononono: and if the typing is too loud they could use a webcam and type from another room
evanj [3d\]: or if no webcam just have someone shout out the coordinates of the moves
shenzhen [3d\]: mthere is a message on tygem now
shenzhen [3d\]: disconnected from the server... recording offline....will catch up after
viu30h [5k\]: or just film the board lol
wallh [4k\]: could anybody clone the moves from tygem ?
shenzhen [3d\]: no more moves on tygem
nononono: yes shouting out the ccordinates does is less disturbing than logging in quickly and 1 mouseclick per move
rsun [4d\]: the moves are cloned here already
USGO1 [-\]: got disconnected from the server... recording offline... will catch up now...
wallh [4k\]: oh ok
]
;B[pj]C[ThiGar [3k\]: welcome back! we were quite in your absence
]
;W[pi]
;B[ph]
;W[oh]
;B[pg]
;W[rj]
;B[rk]
;W[sb]C[evanj [3d\]: holy moly
]
;B[rb]
;W[oi]
;B[oj]C[wallh [4k\]: o.O
]
;W[qa]
;B[sc]
;W[pa]
;B[sd]
;W[rf]C[lepore [1d\]: this is exactly how i had it playing out...
]
;B[se]C[palapiku [-\]: :)
]
;W[og]
;B[of]
;W[sg]
;B[sj]C[rsun [4d\]: I thought someone said w resigned
]
;W[ri]
;B[qn]
;W[pn]C[Ojisama [-\]: that was a troll
]
;B[pm]
;W[np]
;B[om]
;W[rq]
;B[lr]
;W[rr]
;B[on]
;W[rn]
;B[rs]
;W[no]
;B[ls]
;W[js]C[palapiku [-\]: is w ahead if everything lives?
benwa [4k\]: thank you USGO1 for coming back to us!
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;B[ns]C[evanj [3d\]: well it's not like anything interesting happened while he was gone
USGO1 [-\]: white resigns here
shenzhen [3d\]: w lost...
Lake [4k\]: horai
viu30h [5k\]: andy is pro
palapiku [-\]: thx
xxxxxxxxx [4d\]: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzh
mw0x2a [3k?\]: congratulations, andy
shenzhen [3d\]: congrats andy
mw0x2a [3k?\]: ty for the broadcast
shenzhen [3d\]: bbw for king
USGO1 [-\]: Andy Liu is the first US certified Go Professional !!!
benwa [4k\]: Yes!
shenzhen [3d\]: 9p by xmas i hope
rsun [4d\]: so what's happening on site?
dinosaur [1d\]: thanks usgo
viu30h [5k\]: 1p now?
Ojisama [-\]: no that's Holynec (the king =)
ThiGar [3k\]: Bravo!
Illyria [?\]: thanks usgo!
benwa [4k\]: Go Andy, we love BBW
wallh [4k\]: thanks USGO1 !
shenzhen [3d\]: andy already downed 3 yards of ale
benwa [4k\]: Thanks USGO1
Ojisama [-\]: Congrats to And and thanks USGO1
Ojisama [-\]: Andy
Tokedo [1k\]: congrads to Andy!
evanj [3d\]: andy liu 1p...
evanj [3d\]: wow
benwa [4k\]: Thanks commentators
Lake [4k\]: thank you for transcribing. grats to Andy
drivenrain [-\]: when will games be for pro number 2 ?
palapiku [-\]: afternoon
Pyv [?\]: #2 will be canadian?
palapiku [-\]: yes
rsun [4d\]: usgo anyone crying over there
shenzhen [3d\]: still a ko in top right too :)
nononono: well easy win
Warfreak2 [4d\]: bigbadwolf [1p\]
shenzhen [3d\]: lolz
dragonslay [1k\]: woot woot!
Lake [4k\]: maybe he become good now)
wallh [4k\]: magically ?
Ojisama [-\]: btw is Andy in uni?
evanj [3d\]: not if he's going to korea to train
Warfreak2 [4d\]: how to travel to korea by train?
Ojisama [-\]: how old is he?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: there's an ocean
Lake [4k\]: yeah. he's got what he dreamt of right)
palapiku [-\]: if he goes to korea to train it will probably ruin his whole life, unless he becomes top pro
ThiGar [3k\]: When he comes back from Korea a year from now, we won't believe our eyes how much his game will have improved
Warfreak2 [4d\]: congratulations, andy, winning pro exam with only one loss
evanj [3d\]: i agree palapiku
rsun [4d\]: andy is around 20yo
Warfreak2 [4d\]: why would it ruin his life
palapiku [-\]: he has to quit university to do it
Warfreak2 [4d\]: lots of people spend a year abroad while they're young
Ojisama [-\]: not quit
rsun [4d\]: he can take a 1-year leave
Ojisama [-\]: take a break
Warfreak2 [4d\]: don't have to quit uni, just take a gap year
Lake [4k\]: true
palapiku [-\]: true
nononono: well going abroad one year ruins many pplz lifes
nononono: they come back as father or mother
dragonslay [1k\]: lol
wallh [4k\]: lol
Ojisama [-\]: hahahaha
Warfreak2 [4d\]: crossing the road ruins many people's lives
Lake [4k\]: nononono
Ojisama [-\]: that's erasmus
dragonslay [1k\]: they aren't go players ^_^
Ojisama [-\]: not going to study baduk =)
Nosabe [-\]: nononono ! tell me it's not true !
palapiku [-\]: haha erasmus
palapiku [-\]: erasmus is the only hope for Europe's declining population growth
Warfreak2 [4d\]: wut
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