(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[1st AGA-TYGEMGO Pro Finals - 4A, game 2]PW[GanSheng Shi]PB[Andy Liu]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2012-08-02]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[USGO1 [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-system
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]C[KurataSan [1d\]: Andy Liu = Benhu
]
;B[cd]C[KurataSan [1d\]: or lsai
]
;W[pp]C[gloooomph [1k\]: andy hasn't lost a single game
]
;B[oc]C[Shana [4d?\]: andy=bbw
gloooomph [1k\]: lsai sometimes loses
gloooomph [1k\]: therefore andy is not lsai
KurataSan [1d\]: oh right
KurataSan [1d\]: sorry
]
;W[ed]
;B[ec]
;W[dd]
;B[dc]
;W[ce]C[mate105 [3d\]: who are the players please, on phone no name displayed?
]
;B[fc]
;W[bd]
;B[cc]
;W[dj]
;B[fq]C[Demon [3d\]: GanSheng Shi(W) vs. Andy Liu(B)
gloooomph [1k\]: andy lui and gansheng shi
mate105 [3d\]: thank you very much
gloooomph [1k\]: you can tell whgat colour they are by assuming andy is winning
]
;W[cn]
;B[dr]C[Jinni [1k\]: 1 more game and bbw is a pro
Demon [3d\]: not everyone can tell who is winning that easily though :)
fortuna [3k\]: what is gan's kgs name
Jinni [1k\]: gifted
fortuna [3k\]: ok thanks
]
;W[gq]C[gloooomph [1k\]: someone said gan is gifted[8d\]
gloooomph [1k\]: but I have yet to see convincing evidence
Jinni [1k\]: he is
pantyshot [6k\]: are the games played on tygem?
RobertT [-\]: yah, gifted is one of his
Jinni [1k\]: look at his profile
Mef [-\]: The games are played live in North Carolina
aceace [2k\]: no
RobertT [-\]: the games are played in person. they are only broadcasted on tygem and kgs
pantyshot [6k\]: ah okay
]
;B[gr]C[Demon [3d\]: do we have a cam for this game?
RobertT [-\]: no
]
;W[fr]
;B[gp]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]
;W[eq]
;B[fp]
;W[er]
;B[iq]C[Lynx [1d\]: g2 is supposidly the passive, weak, ladder dependent move
mate105 [3d\]: fast play
RobertT [-\]: you got it right :p
JAskari [2k\]: This cant be good for black
JAskari [2k\]: ?
RobertT [-\]: its ok because d2 isnt dead yet
Excalibor [6k\]: this looks excellent for black
Jinni [1k\]: looks pro worthy
fortuna [3k\]: he'll get a good extension
JAskari [2k\]: ok
Lynx [1d\]: I'd assume B knows fuseki and this is the better variation for him
RobertT [-\]: if yout hink the bottom left is whites corner, you are wrong
]
;W[qj]
;B[jo]C[Jinni [1k\]: if you think at all this game youre wrong
]
;W[nq]
;B[qh]
;W[qo]C[Jinni [1k\]: h3 will live for example
fortuna [3k\]: whoah a lot of moves to maintain control on bottom
]
;B[oh]C[Jinni [1k\]: w taking no chances
Excalibor [6k\]: how many t the pro certificate?
RobertT [-\]: black can get moves around c8 because a move like c3 could work after, whtie has to play something like b4 to go for the kill
RobertT [-\]: if c3 c4, black is alive in the corner
fortuna [3k\]: b will have to start swinging soon
Mef [-\]: Two qualify excalibor
Excalibor [6k\]: just two, wow
]
;W[kc]
;B[cl]
;W[cj]
;B[el]C[RobertT [-\]: now corner life is threatened
]
;W[en]C[GreedKills [2k\]: ok so i missed the end of the last game, did andy liu win?
Mef [-\]: Yes
RobertT [-\]: andy +10.5
]
;B[cq]C[GreedKills [2k\]: and in other news why does the aga web site not have this kind of info in an obvious place??? this is like the biggest thing to hit american go in a while
Koffein [-\]: b4 ?
RobertT [-\]: have to b4 or b is just alive
Mef [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-system ?
]
;W[cp]
;B[br]C[RobertT [-\]: b alive in corner
GreedKills [2k\]: excellent, thanks
yoyoma [1d\]: GreedKills ur cute
RobertT [-\]: because d3 is sente
Koffein [-\]: it feels like black tricked white .. no he got the corner + c8 invasion
Koffein [-\]: now*
GreedKills [2k\]: no link on the home page : D
GreedKills [2k\]: thanks yoyoma
bubba [4d\]: two weak black stones on the outside is white's compenation
flintngun [3d\]: if white played b4 doesn't black just live with more points
Koffein [-\]: flint, how?
RobertT [-\]: not even close to good enough
]
;W[bl]C[RobertT [-\]: whites group is baseless now and the 2 stones arnt that weak
Shana [4d?\]: the matches arent relayed in korea 1?
oskarv [1d\]: b alive
RobertT [-\]: horray whites compensation is 2nd line territory
Koffein [-\]: ah, i see .. b4 doesn't work, black d1 is sente
Demon [3d\]: Why don't I see this game on tygem?
flintngun [3d\]: d1 becomes sente i guess
flintngun [3d\]: aw you beat me to it :p
RobertT [-\]: no koffein
globax [3d\]: r8
Koffein [-\]: b4 c4 c5 b3 b5 d1 rob
RobertT [-\]: b4 c1 b3 d3 . d3 is the sente
]
;B[qq]C[RobertT [-\]: ohh
RobertT [-\]: you mean if b4 directly
RobertT [-\]: thought you ment here
Lynx [1d\]: feels like B is dominating W
]
;W[rp]C[Firebird [3k\]: isn't r3 supposed to be dead? or: where does b expect to play ko?
Shana [4d?\]: aji
Lake [4k\]: demon, go to aga room
Tokedo [1k\]: it is a probe
]
;B[ql]C[Demon [3d\]: just a probe
globax [3d\]: p10, later o2
globax [3d\]: oo
Shana [4d?\]: but mwkim is gonna be in korea1 right?
RobertT [-\]: r3 can be used to get strength on outside or live outright
gnarf [1k\]: b is like saying " you won't get any point"
Firebird [3k\]: what was w alternative to s4?
RobertT [-\]: that enclosure is taught to beginners as "your territory" but in reality it isnt
Firebird [3k\]: q3?
Fukurokuji [1k\]: did andy win his game before this one?
yithril [-\]: they play multiple times
yithril [-\]: ?
Koffein [-\]: if white plays q3, black has s5 
Shana [4d?\]: andy never lost
rsun [4d\]: I thought andy wanted to go to wall street
spanglish [3k\]: what there has to ve an alternative
]
;W[rh]
;B[rg]C[spanglish [3k\]: why
]
;W[pk]
;B[pl]C[Firebird [3k\]: there must be an alternative, otherwise it's not a probe
rsun [4d\]: what else would you do when you live in new york and study economics
]
;W[nk]C[Lake [4k\]: andy want to be a history
]
;B[ol]C[pytta [2k\]: "historic"
Lake [4k\]: and he pretty much getting there
]
;W[ni]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: andy still undefeated?
RobertT [-\]: yes
Lake [4k\]: yep
]
;B[ok]C[Firebird [3k\]: oh, and RobertT: I hate what they told me when I was a beginner ;)
]
;W[oj]
;B[mj]C[rsun [4d\]: andy is playing 3s blitz
]
;W[nh]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: he is power strong
spanglish [3k\]: bbw playing as in kgs
spanglish [3k\]: fast
Lynx [1d\]: andy expects to eat his opponent alive
]
;B[nj]C[Shana [4d?\]: nasty, at least cook them
rsun [4d\]: yeah, delays are attributed to the controller
]
;W[oi]
;B[ml]C[globax [3d\]: g10
svartrev [5k\]: Are all the games, or at least these ones, going to have sgf's available ?
JAskari [2k\]: can i watch this game somewhere later?
Shana [4d?\]: prolly gonna be somewhere on aga site
svartrev [5k\]: I didn't see if the last game was properly transcribed on KGS, didn't it run into dificulties at the end ?
rsun [4d\]: sure you can open it in KGS
]
;W[og]C[Shana [4d?\]: doubt they would hide their first pro tourney game
rsun [4d\]: just replay the USGO games
yithril [-\]: Is he really playing this fast?
globax [3d\]: f10
]
;B[ic]C[Mef [-\]: This website - http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-system  has SGFs of tournament games
]
;W[qg]
;B[rf]
;W[qi]
;B[lq]C[gnarf [1k\]: these whites stones on the right couldn't be more efficient ^^
ivank [3k\]: why Andy is so strong?
globax [3d\]: g10 even bigger now
twisted [-\]: Eric and Andy related?
ivank [3k\]: he was specially trained?
]
;W[nm]C[rsun [4d\]: eric's last name is LUI, not LIU
]
;B[nl]C[SiaBBo [5k\]: Eric Lui, Andy Liu, what you think?
twisted [-\]: ah srry
flintngun [3d\]: lol this was mentioned yesterday I think...
globax [3d\]: is this enough to protect p2?
]
;W[mp]
;B[mc]C[globax [3d\]: j16?
iceweasel [-\]: lui is a dutch word
rsun [4d\]: how about m9, g7
]
;W[df]
;B[kf]C[minimalist [1k\]: s17
SiaBBo [5k\]: what does s17 do?
RobertT [-\]: die a glorious death
minimalist [1k\]: try reaction :)
Firebird [3k\]: so long as it's glorious, what speaks against it? ;)
]
;W[nd]
;B[nc]C[ED002 [11k\]: the death part maybe -.-
]
;W[id]
;B[jd]C[globax [3d\]: h17
]
;W[hc]C[globax [3d\]: :)
]
;B[jc]
;W[hd]
;B[fd]
;W[hf]
;B[ef]C[rsun [4d\]: this is too difficult for w to win
]
;W[dg]
;B[bc]C[mrowmrow [8k?\]: why b17?
]
;W[bp]
;B[cs]C[KFBlitz [1k\]: to live 
mrowmrow [8k?\]: oh ok
]
;W[bq]C[mrowmrow [8k?\]: that makes sense :P
]
;B[dq]
;W[ep]
;B[ar]C[Abraxas [6k\]: m6 
hemb [2k\]: whats going on withj bottom right?
sai1029 [3d\]: bbw is good at taking solid pts n finish his opponent with bitter taste
SiaBBo [5k\]: does white even have a good move to capture e8 and c8?
Abraxas [6k\]: is in suspended mode
GreedKills [2k\]: r3 was a probe hem 
GreedKills [2k\]: hemb
]
;W[qf]
;B[qe]C[GreedKills [2k\]: dead for now
RobertT [-\]: r3 allowed b to get m3 in sente
GreedKills [2k\]: ps hemb did you go to dartmouth/
RobertT [-\]: along with other endgame later
Abraxas [6k\]: R3 is an "spy"
Demon [3d\]: c7?
rsun [4d\]: w can try g5, g7, but not sure if he'll gain anything
minimalist [1k\]: g7
Abraxas [6k\]: it can be used later or discarded
viu30h [5k\]: rob i cant run tygem and kgs at same time you tell me when commentary starts?
]
;W[lk]
;B[mk]C[Abraxas [6k\]: m6 is good for white?
]
;W[fo]C[SiaBBo [5k\]: m6 doesnt really do anything or?
KFBlitz [1k\]: w wnats to kill e8 now
]
;B[go]
;W[gn]
;B[fm]
;W[hn]
;B[io]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: danger danger
Warfreak2 [4d\]: high voltage
KFBlitz [1k\]: lol
SiaBBo [5k\]: :b
folmez [5k\]: was f7 a mistake?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: we'll see
rsun [4d\]: b can trade f7 group with h14 group
SiaBBo [5k\]: where black can run?
GreedKills [2k\]: places
Lake [4k\]: why run? kill!
folmez [5k\]: why is white thinking, isn'4 f6 obvious?!
rsun [4d\]: no
Abraxas [6k\]: 3 guys surrounded by the white elefants? you better run
Lake [4k\]: he's reading life
]
;W[fn]C[viu30h [5k\]: if andy wins hes pro right?
globax [3d\]: his problem his h14
globax [3d\]: you can't run with 2 weak groups
Lake [4k\]: so direct blacck stones towars h14?
globax [3d\]: f10 both both escape ans attack from far
]
;B[fk]C[GreedKills [2k\]: f9 seems heavier than f10 or h8 - is that to make eye shape?
globax [3d\]: k13
SiaBBo [5k\]: f9 does look a little bit weird
Abraxas [6k\]: b7 
twisted [-\]: f9 aims at h14 group
Abraxas [6k\]: black made strenght instead of extend
mrowmrow [8k?\]: i thought g9 was good because he can try to go up or right
]
;W[fi]
;B[hk]C[GreedKills [2k\]: i feel like b is going for local eyeshape
Abraxas [6k\]: b7 or b9 is cut?
folmez [5k\]: black will live there
gnarf [1k\]: no
SeijiOgata [23k\]: not yet alive
gnarf [1k\]: no cut i mean
Abraxas [6k\]: ok, i though so, but im not sure
rsun [4d\]: b7 or b9 is hane
Koffein [-\]: b9 c9 b7 d8 c7 d7 a8 b10 b6 a6 dead
Lynx [1d\]: it seems like B is sporking W in points
twisted [-\]: yup seems fairly easy game for b now
globax [3d\]: time to m12?
yithril [-\]: he won by 10 the first time right?
Demon [3d\]: yes and beat GanSheng Shi by 10.5 last game
Demon [3d\]: Andy*
]
;W[gj]
;B[il]C[SiaBBo [5k\]: yay, even i saw j8
KFBlitz [1k\]: kyu powa
SiaBBo [5k\]: that's it
]
;W[hb]
;B[je]C[globax [3d\]: m6 big
Tytonidae [6k\]: is j8 connected?
twisted [-\]: j8 fine
Morla [2d\]: i dont like w g10
RobertT [-\]: j8 is in no danger
]
;W[be]C[folmez [5k\]: was that really worth it
Timk [1k\]: f15 , Ж)
iceweasel [-\]: f15
globax [3d\]: m12 and m6 miai ?
twisted [-\]: g13?
minimalist [1k\]: b15seems too safe
twisted [-\]: its v big tho
Syu [1k\]: yose already?
GreedKills [2k\]: b15 threatens corner
Abraxas [6k\]: j11 
Timk [1k\]: maybe n2 
GreedKills [2k\]: ?
Timk [1k\]: it's big too
globax [3d\]: or b9
Timk [1k\]: but with f15 B can think of atacking h16 
Timk [1k\]: so f15 is good... 
SeijiOgata [23k\]: I like how f15 sets up a snapback
SeijiOgata [23k\]: :p
Abraxas [6k\]: f15? why nor f14
yithril [-\]: A good 12 points in the corner for Black and he clinches it
mrowmrow [8k?\]: UTTEGAESHI
globax [3d\]: i really like m6
globax [3d\]: points and safety
Syu [1k\]: i prefer g15 instead of f15
minimalist [1k\]: m4 better?
pytta [2k\]: o/~ I'm in love with tengen o/~
RobertT [-\]: o2
yithril [-\]: o2?
hemb [2k\]: why not m5 instead of m6?
globax [3d\]: maybe m4 better
twisted [-\]: g15 looks strange shape
Demon [3d\]: g13 maybe?
]
;B[gg]C[twisted [-\]: yay
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yeah, peep g15 after you put a white stone at h13
]
;W[gf]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: or this way you don't need to peep
]
;B[ff]
;W[hg]C[Abraxas [6k\]: h12 
twisted [-\]: e12
Warfreak2 [4d\]: looks like no escape from double hane
]
;B[gh]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: e12 would be a terrible shape
Lynx [1d\]: not h12?  bargles
kaworu [2k\]: will there be any live commentary in tygem for this game?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i expected h12
RobertT [-\]: most likely kaworu
RobertT [-\]: if there is, it will start in 30 min
rsun [4d\]: kim 9p is brushing his teeth
kaworu [2k\]: thanks 
]
;W[ii]C[Abraxas [6k\]: f12 
]
;B[hj]C[RobertT [-\]: abraxas, keep your eye on the prize
]
;W[hi]
;B[ge]C[rsun [4d\]: k13
plamen [1d\]: k13 j14 
Abraxas [6k\]: i though b can lose g12  stones 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: k13 is a bad shape
]
;W[jg]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: not j14, but can push at h12
CBlue [?\]: has andy played against any professional player within the last year?
]
;B[gi]C[RobertT [-\]: no he cant warfreak
CBlue [?\]: i'd like to know how he fares against the real thing
]
;W[fj]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: still, i don't know why b g15
]
;B[fg]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: is this a pantomime?
plamen [1d\]: m12 ?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: oh yes he can
SeijiOgata [23k\]: whats a pantomime
mrowmrow [8k?\]: its a type of monkey
boobgoober [3k\]: m11
]
;W[jf]C[plamen [1d\]: l13 
GreedKills [2k\]: j15?
Abraxas [6k\]: is a kind of panties for actors
SeijiOgata [23k\]: all lies!
Abraxas [6k\]: :-)
RobertT [-\]: b would need to fix f13 before pushing
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no he wouldn't
Abraxas [6k\]: Robert, thats why I said f12
Warfreak2 [4d\]: sorry
Warfreak2 [4d\]: *oh no he wouldn't!
RobertT [-\]: congrats you pushed, block then you have to go back and fix cut
rsun [4d\]: how much time do the players have?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no, then i can cut at h15
RobertT [-\]: if you keep pushing then w will just go back and kill at f13
Warfreak2 [4d\]: that's the point
mrowmrow [8k?\]: andy liu hasn't used any time yet
RobertT [-\]: h15 j15
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes, you get three stones, i get five on the edge
Abraxas [6k\]: exactly
Warfreak2 [4d\]: then j14...
shyfox [6k\]: do games ranked games count if your opponent leaves by move 3?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's atari
GreedKills [2k\]: no shyfox
GreedKills [2k\]: you get 10 move
Abraxas [6k\]: depends
shyfox [6k\]: k thanks
KFBlitz [1k\]: unless its automatch
]
;B[ib]C[KFBlitz [1k\]: automatch always counts
twisted [-\]: yes in automatch tho
RobertT [-\]: ok so h12 j13
Abraxas [6k\]: no for Automatch
]
;W[ea]
;B[da]
;W[ga]C[Abraxas [6k\]: ask the admins in EGR
]
;B[eb]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: then i can still have k14 j14 exchange
RobertT [-\]: still doesnt change the fact you have to fix the cut
Warfreak2 [4d\]: and you like your shape?
SeijiOgata [23k\]: i think his monkey got jumped.
Warfreak2 [4d\]: well done, you found a way to make b play f13 which he did play in the game
Warfreak2 [4d\]: don't you feel happy
]
;W[jk]C[RobertT [-\]: no I feel happy that you're acting like an idiot
Warfreak2 [4d\]: but actually i don't need to f13 in this case, i could push j12 and take two stones
]
;B[jm]C[RobertT [-\]: j12 doesnt do anything
globax [3d\]: n2
RobertT [-\]: j12 k12
RobertT [-\]: you wanna cut and kill yourself?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i already told you what j12 does, i said it takes two stones
]
;W[km]C[RobertT [-\]: but it doesnt
Warfreak2 [4d\]: that way you save g13 without this move at f13
Warfreak2 [4d\]: are you blind or just deliberately stupid
rsun [4d\]: uh oh
Abraxas [6k\]: kids
RobertT [-\]: j12 does not capture any 2 stones on the board
mrowmrow [8k?\]: grudge match time
Jinni [1k\]: those arent mutually exvlusive
RobertT [-\]: in any way shape or form
mate105 [3d\]: who is leading in your opinion Robert?
Abraxas [6k\]: now White is winning
twisted [-\]: open up a demo and all will be solved u2
Warfreak2 [4d\]: do you want to clone the game? or will you be too upset about being wrong
gfgfg: haha
]
;B[nr]C[RobertT [-\]: I'll clone since you cant read
mrowmrow [8k?\]: OOOOHHH SNAP
]
;W[or]
;B[mr]C[Abraxas [6k\]: black didnt play what I said, so hes in trouble now!
mrowmrow [8k?\]: warfreak dont duck!
]
;W[kn]C[Abraxas [6k\]: haha, leave them alone
globax [3d\]: aim at j7
Abraxas [6k\]: Warfy gets upset so easily
mrowmrow [8k?\]: lol :P
mrowmrow [8k?\]: he isnt joining the clone
]
;B[im]C[Jinni [1k\]: hes seen a lot of war
globax [3d\]: :)
Abraxas [6k\]: hes doing it offline to check if he was correct
]
;W[fa]C[gfgfg: aha
]
;B[ba]C[Lynx [1d\]: מר מלחמת מגן על כבודו; 氏は戦争は彼の名誉を守る
Abraxas [6k\]: Kibitz rule: "Argue first, read carefully later"
]
;W[rk]C[Jinni [1k\]: first rule of kgs is dont challenge a 4ds reading ability
Abraxas [6k\]: both are 4d
Jinni [1k\]: its a sensitive rank
Abraxas [6k\]: or stronger
]
;B[mm]C[Abraxas [6k\]: i guess Robert is 5d
gfgfg: i4
viu30h [5k\]: ah rs 5d aga so about strong 4f?
viu30h [5k\]: 4d lol
]
;W[ia]
;B[ja]
;W[ka]
;B[ha]C[CBlue [?\]: andy's games are so enjoyable
Jinni [1k\]: hoho
gfgfg: h5
CBlue [?\]: it even seems he has a decent supply of 9d opponents on kgs
palapiku [-\]: i feel like a pro would capture instead of K5
mate105 [3d\]: if w wins they will play each other again tomorrow?
CBlue [?\]: isn't andy pretty much as strong as a pro?
mrowmrow [8k?\]: i think so
Jinni [1k\]: yep
]
;W[ik]C[mate105 [3d\]: nice
Jinni [1k\]: hes about to be a pro
]
;B[gl]
;W[ia]
;B[oq]
;W[pq]
;B[ha]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: if anyone cares, robert was so stubbornly sure that his j13 move punished me that he blamed it on the g11 f10 exchange which was played in the game
]
;W[es]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: apparently it's a horrible move and it's my fault
Lynx [1d\]: why would W have started this ko?
Abraxas [6k\]: Warfy, we dont care really, take a break
Roosta [5k\]: is there a video stream for this?
Jayy [-\]: no
]
;B[ds]
;W[ia]
;B[ie]
;W[he]C[palapiku [-\]: only 200 observers for such a historic game
]
;B[ha]
;W[bs]C[fakeyou [1d\]: go b!
Abraxas [6k\]: i want to see mud-fight go players
gnarf [1k\]: usgo, how much time did they use until now?
Fukurokuji [1k\]: how many rounds left?
Jinni [1k\]: this is the last one
folmez [5k\]: why undos?
Fukurokuji [1k\]: whoever wins will be pro ?
palapiku [-\]: no undos, just time travel
Jinni [1k\]: yep
RobertT [-\]: this isnt the last one
palapiku [-\]: if b wins, he will be pro
Fukurokuji [1k\]: thanks
RobertT [-\]: its best of 3
palapiku [-\]: if w wins, there's one more game
folmez [5k\]: time travel?
RobertT [-\]: if andy wins it will be the last one
HotToTrot [1d\]: so who wont he debate
Abraxas [6k\]: is not Undo, scribe corection, probably
HotToTrot [1d\]: won*
HotToTrot [1d\]: so who won the debate*
Jinni [1k\]: we all lost
svartrev [5k\]: Depends who you ask
palapiku [-\]: usgo keeps doing this time travel thing, but he never actually corrects anything
palapiku [-\]: just repeats the same moves back and forward
bubba [4d\]: like a ko? :)
Abraxas [6k\]: a ko repeats the position but changes the stones
Abraxas [6k\]: so is  not time travel
palapiku [-\]: also.. it must be lunch break?
Abraxas [6k\]: lunch break after big Atari?
RobertT [-\]: not dinner break yet
palapiku [-\]: b is actually thinking over what to play now?
RobertT [-\]: dinner break is still over 30 min away
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;B[as]
;W[ia]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: gotta use his 90 minutes somehow
]
;B[bm]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: either that or he could go watch a film
Lynx [1d\]: woh W may trade here
]
;W[cm]
;B[ha]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: trade what for what
gfgfg: and die
]
;W[hm]
;B[hl]
;W[ia]C[palapiku [-\]: b7 loses points..
Lynx [1d\]: =(
]
;B[dm]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: b7 doesn't really lose points, but this one seems to
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b could just live on the edge, no?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: oh, i get it
RobertT [-\]: he cant live on the edge
]
;W[ck]
;B[ha]C[HotToTrot [1d\]: u guys should just fight
HotToTrot [1d\]: and get it over with
HotToTrot [1d\]: lol
Warfreak2 [4d\]: who guys
palapiku [-\]: *kiss
Warfreak2 [4d\]: is robertt still being a dolt?
RobertT [-\]: yah totally
HotToTrot [1d\]: lol
gfgfg: g16
anant1111 [10k\]: trolls must die
ranyee [4k\]: cant w kill p8?
palapiku [-\]: how
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i never tried it at a tournament, but i don't think it's normal to win a game by calling your opponent's move horrible, let alone someone else's move in their own game
Abraxas [6k\]: relax boy, open the windows
gfgfg: when commentary?
]
;W[re]
;B[os]
;W[pr]C[mrowmrow [8k?\]: warfreaks 4d is super impressive since he seems to be only 8 yrs old
MicMac [2d\]: i guess the purposeof this  ko is (if black connect at k18,)  to get some move in m14 area for white, and perhaps try to kill n10
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i didn't know that being right was associated with childishness
Abraxas [6k\]: hes strong at go and vwery smart, but he acts this way everytime
Abraxas [6k\]: Warfy, you are being childisah , thats obvious but we like you anyway
mrowmrow [8k?\]: is being right what you think we're talking about
mrowmrow [8k?\]: lolol
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i don't know what robert is talking about, but i appear to have made a judgement that it's not worth reading
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if he comes up with a move which refutes me, do let me know, though it seems unlikely
palapiku [-\]: doesn't P1 waste a threat
Vizsla [2d\]: this game quite close
Jinni [1k\]: i like to take go way too seriously
ijoka [-\]: we know jinni
Abraxas [6k\]: B needs o5 
MicMac [2d\]: how palapiku?
Jinni [1k\]: its a problem
gfgfg: 9p commentary begins
]
;B[le]C[palapiku [-\]: because it is a threat micmac
]
;W[lh]C[MicMac [2d\]: yeah but where was the other?
gnarf [1k\]: mah, i could not download tygem on this coimputer :(((
palapiku [-\]: or does b not care about the ko right now
ijoka [-\]: are these games being reviewed on tygem?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: in this record, p1 is played in response to s15 for some reason
folmez [5k\]: does tygem work on mac?
twisted [-\]: yes
Warfreak2 [4d\]: so it's a threat played instead of answering a different threat
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i guess it's a transcription error
palapiku [-\]: and then they both forgot about the ko
palapiku [-\]: i don't understand
Warfreak2 [4d\]: probably they were playing the ko too quickly
gfgfg: he reviewed everygame in 2 parts before and after dinner break
cava [9k?\]: o6 seems needed
]
;B[li]C[palapiku [-\]: bbw doesn't live in gote :)
]
;W[kg]C[Abraxas [6k\]: seems white wins
]
;B[rd]C[palapiku [-\]: what the...
]
;W[ia]C[anant1111 [10k\]: majic
]
;B[jb]
;W[sg]
;B[se]
;W[lf]
;B[ke]C[palapiku [-\]: b in trouble?
]
;W[nn]C[Tytonidae [6k\]: what is the miai for p8 ?
Tytonidae [6k\]: p8 group
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if b dies here i will donate my hat to the soup kitchen
]
;B[lo]
;W[kl]C[Abraxas [6k\]: ???
anant1111 [10k\]: magic
Vizsla [2d\]: transcriptor is under the effect of magic substances
folmez [5k\]: wth is going on?
anant1111 [10k\]: magic
Fukurokuji [1k\]: butterfly effect :)
anant1111 [10k\]: lol
Speechless [5k\]: He's searching a mistake
palapiku [-\]: they're playing a game that's like go but instead of putting stones on the board, you take them off
gnarf [1k\]: it's call "scratch on the goban"
Warfreak2 [4d\]: and sniff
gnarf [1k\]: never cross the line :P
]
;B[pn]C[Abraxas [6k\]: "guess the previous move"
Demon [3d\]: q6
]
;W[mn]C[folmez [5k\]: quick question, this is stupid but i cannot find the download button at tygembaduk.com
gnarf [1k\]: me neither
folmez [5k\]: did anyone else experience this?
Vizsla [2d\]: no
palapiku [-\]: is b okay, please say b will be ok
hemb [2k\]: did black just let himself be cut?
]
;B[qn]
;W[rn]C[Lynx [1d\]: b should be able to live
Abraxas [6k\]: b not ok
Lynx [1d\]: give him some lidocaine!
MicMac [2d\]: l10 to live?
hemb [2k\]: I dont see a second eye...
Vizsla [2d\]: click on direct file download folmez
]
;B[ln]
;W[lm]
;B[rm]
;W[rl]C[Vizsla [2d\]: that will download an installer that downloads other files itself
]
;B[po]C[Fukurokuji [1k\]: if these moves are correct why b tried too kill himself?
]
;W[op]C[Fukurokuji [1k\]: b resing here
minimalist [1k\]: b made harakiri?
Demon [3d\]: Andy why did you blitz this game?  :(
Warfreak2 [4d\]: seems like it
Inushogun [2k\]: looked like a suicide
Abraxas [6k\]: o5 
mpepe16 [6d\]: And these players will be pros...?
palapiku [-\]: haha
Warfreak2 [4d\]: undefeated in pro exam is too legendary to be possible
USGO1 [-\]: Black resigns here
Lynx [1d\]: =(
Warfreak2 [4d\]: well done gansheng
Pl4typus [17k\]: aww
mpepe16 [6d\]: Seems pretty easy exam.
hemb [2k\]: agh why didn't he just connect
Warfreak2 [4d\]: but andy cannot lose next game
ranyee [4k\]: as i said w had to kill p8
SonYeJin [2d\]: who won first game?
Yukontodd [7k?\]: game 3 tomorrow!
gnarf [1k\]: what on earth was q6 ?
RobertT [-\]: andy won the first one
palapiku [-\]: gonna wake up early for game 3
RobertT [-\]: this is andys first loss of the tournament
SonYeJin [2d\]: thx robert
RobertT [-\]: game 3 will decide the first pro
gnarf [1k\]: thx usgo
Jayy [-\]: Poor b
palapiku [-\]: did b just misread?
gfgfg: no
globax [3d\]: thx usgo
RobertT [-\]: b was behind so he overplayed to try to catch up
Fukurokuji [1k\]: what time is the game tomorrow?
osvaldo [1d\]: what time is the final game tomorrow?
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