(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[1st AGA-TYGEMGO Pro Finals - 3A, game 2]PW[Eric Lui]PB[Andy Liu]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2012-07-31]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[USGO1 [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-system
gfdhff [1k\]: aga pro system will collapse soon
ivank [3k\]: along with usa?
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dd]
;B[pq]
;W[dp]
;B[fc]
;W[hc]
;B[oc]
;W[po]C[Rotterdam [3k\]: my god
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;B[qm]
;W[qq]
;B[qr]
;W[qp]
;B[mq]C[mygod: yes ?
ivank [3k\]: lol
lelouch94 [2k\]: lol
Vizsla [3d\]: round 3? when didthis start? 
bert [3d\]: lui v. liu?
Bauer [1k\]: 8 hours ago
atar4eva [2k\]: are they really playing that fast? or usgo played those moves to catch up?
]
;W[om]
;B[pm]C[gloooomph [1k\]: does this mean andy lost one of the previous rounds?
gloooomph [1k\]: that's not like him
Hobbes [2k\]: well... doesn't look exactly like they are blitzing it
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;W[rr]
;B[pr]C[ivank [3k\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-system
Abraxas [7k\]: Liu vs Lui - coincidence?
Bauer [1k\]: no, bbw won all his game
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's the opening
]
;W[on]C[Hobbes [2k\]: if you think that is a joseky
Abraxas [7k\]: joseki
blurb1: at egc today was game pop - song^^
atar4eva [2k\]: its quite fast i guess 18 moves in less than 5min
Abraxas [7k\]: haha
ivank [3k\]: q10 ?
iTengen [2k\]: my money on black
iTengen [2k\]: i just got paid
indianayk [4d\]: they are not the same games. they switched the color of stones from this morning's as scheduled
Hobbes [2k\]: I think they will start thinking heavily now... after the josek"I"
Abraxas [7k\]: strong players think from first move
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;B[jq]C[iTengen [2k\]: how do you know :D
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;W[pk]C[Abraxas [7k\]: I read it in a pro book
Abraxas [7k\]: see Kageyama's Fundamentals and Opening Theory made Easy
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;B[qk]C[Hobbes [2k\]: by the way someone here is a devil... more he is "the" devil
iTengen [2k\]: cheers
ILikePie [6k?\]: who won game one?
Abraxas [7k\]: * grabs a silver cross
capu [15k\]: what is white thinking so hard about
indianayk [4d\]: Andy
Abraxas [7k\]: White is observing the board
UFO [-\]: this final im for lui
iTengen [2k\]: capu: remember that there's global considerations as well as local
Abraxas [7k\]: r10  or q10  make 2 different games
Abraxas [7k\]: for example
Abraxas [7k\]: but pros know nmore better moves
pytta [2k\]: Who is playing? Android client here. 
capu [15k\]: one stone matters so much?
Abraxas [7k\]: yes
Hobbes [2k\]: absolutely
hajdnkspf [4k\]: eric lui white
ivank [3k\]: if b wins this game he is already pro?
Abraxas [7k\]: one stone may be life or death of your group
hajdnkspf [4k\]: andy liu black
capu [15k\]: sure, but how can u tell so early on
Abraxas [7k\]: no player can afford to lose a group early in the opening
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;W[pj]C[pytta [2k\]: Thank you kindly. 
iTengen [2k\]: black is BBW, who is white?
DariusA [3d\]: next move is R10
Hobbes [2k\]: you could
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;B[qj]C[DariusA [3d\]: omg i'm too strong
Hobbes [2k\]: well not you, they could
Warfreak2 [4d\]: we could see bigbadwolf [1p\] soon
Theo9000 [3k\]: lol darius
Bauer [1k\]: Darius is strong today
capu [15k\]: not too shabby darius
Uberdude [4d?\]: if w can't hane that seems a failure
]
;W[pi]
;B[rh]C[DariusA [3d\]: w makes influence  it's not a failure
Warfreak2 [4d\]: or maybe hjekshdf [1p\]
capu [15k\]: is hane cut
Hobbes [2k\]: even if he take sente to manage f17?
Uberdude [4d?\]: but less than if you hane
Warfreak2 [4d\]: hane would probably result in gote
Lynx [1d\]: Oi still find it hard to believe hjekshdf is bigbadwolf
Asum [1d\]: c14
Sheriffi [-\]: Or maybe AndyLiu [1p\]
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i want to see bigbadwolf [1p\]
Uberdude [4d?\]: and k3 strong group makes influence less easy to use
Bauer [1k\]: bbw is brilliant in fighting influence
gloooomph [1k\]: will the new pros have a full set of p ranks?
DariusA [3d\]: this result is favorable to w  considering the R16 P17 shape imransho
gloooomph [1k\]: it seems odd when there's only two of them
ronm [1k\]: hm i don't see this game up on tygem
Abraxas [7k\]: n17 
Hobbes [2k\]: l16?
Damasippus [7k?\]: s16?
Koffein [-\]: why not hjekshdf [1p\] ?
Akari1 [1k\]: How much is the annual salary for thenew pros?
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;W[cf]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: because keyboardmash will play ranked games still :-p
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;B[cn]C[Nosabe [-\]: $1,000,000
Theo9000 [3k\]: lol they wish
Theo9000 [3k\]: ;)
Akari1 [1k\]: thx
BongoBob [6k\]: lol..
capu [15k\]: who fronts the bill
DariusA [3d\]: lol
Nosabe [-\]: just joking
Asum [1d\]: more than japanse pros
Uberdude [4d?\]: still, this is a lot better for w than had b got p8
blurb1: aga room romm 27
blurb1: *o
Uberdude [4d?\]: but then w may have got l3
capu [15k\]: do they have teams and sponsor in go or is it state funded
Uberdude [4d?\]: but i tihnk n7 peep makes that fight playable
DariusA [3d\]: i bet on b 
gloooomph [1k\]: tygem is providing some money
capu [15k\]: is tygem a company
gloooomph [1k\]: tygem is asian go server
DariusA [3d\]: tygem should provide soem money to europe   not us
Bauer [1k\]: the first game was rather even, i could not see who was leading
DariusA [3d\]: much more potential in europe
Abraxas [7k\]: tygem should provide som money to KGS
Koffein [-\]: you still wouldn't get any money, darius :-)
capu [15k\]: do u have weekly tournaments for some cash in go
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;W[dk]C[Hobbes [2k\]: tygem should provide some money to me... well everyone should
]
;B[fq]C[ptitlou [2d\]: who won first game ?
DariusA [3d\]: yea maybe... 
Abraxas [7k\]: check or cash, Hobbes?
Hobbes [2k\]: i'M TALKING TO YOU!
ivank [3k\]: bbw won
ptitlou [2d\]: thanks !
Abraxas [7k\]: ok ok , I'll send it soon
gfdhff [1k\]: i have goat to give away
Hobbes [2k\]: cash plese
Hobbes [2k\]: please
folmez [5k\]: f5?
Abraxas [7k\]: sends 5 pesos to Hobbes
Hobbes [2k\]: money from abraxas... would you like my soul?
]
;W[co]
;B[dn]
;W[fp]
;B[gp]C[Hobbes [2k\]: because for the suol you must give me babies as well
Abraxas [7k\]: f5  !
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;W[fo]C[Abraxas [7k\]: yay
Nosabe [-\]: good call
Abraxas [7k\]: :-)
Bauer [1k\]: f5 was too late
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;B[eq]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: e4!
DariusA [3d\]: is C5 move popular among pros nowadays ?
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;W[ep]C[Theo9000 [3k\]: idk to me it looked bad
Theo9000 [3k\]: but i'm not 7d ;)
Uberdude [4d?\]: plan is to make c6 heavy
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;B[dq]
;W[cq]
;B[cr]C[hazanx: ko?
DariusA [3d\]: well these 7ds are 9ds on kgs  Theo
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;W[br]
;B[bq]
;W[cp]
;B[bs]C[Theo9000 [3k\]: lol. true
ptitlou [2d\]: g3 ?
hazanx: max h4  aji only and tenuki
Theo9000 [3k\]: white looks so bad here
Damasippus [7k?\]: f5 looks very odd now
Abraxas [7k\]: f8 
GoNuggetGo: d2 like a pro.
Hobbes [2k\]: is l16 becoming important?
hazanx: h4 g3 e7 
indianayk [4d\]: c10?
DariusA [3d\]: E7 is da next move
Abraxas [7k\]: e7 too close
Theo9000 [3k\]: e7 is good
GoNuggetGo: Tengen!
Abraxas [7k\]: tengen is wide and high, but maybe too much
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;W[em]
;B[ar]C[hazanx: =p
Abraxas [7k\]: f7  or f8  seems far enough in that area
BongoBob [6k\]: was a2 necessary? o_o
Abraxas [7k\]: well ,no :-)
Uberdude [4d?\]: i tihnk bbw is happy
Theo9000 [3k\]: ^
Uberdude [4d?\]: c6 so much aji
DariusA [3d\]: w looks a little bit overconcetrated ?
Damasippus [7k?\]: Can't believe this is a good result for w, his shape is ...
mooooo [6k\]: does w play on kgs?
Uberdude [4d?\]: to spend move now is too sad
Uberdude [4d?\]: maybe l17?
DariusA [3d\]: w ill tenuki now
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;W[ec]C[Loop [3k\]: he was pianist
]
;B[bm]C[colas [8k\]: if d6  survive w gona ....
Theo9000 [3k\]: uh oh
Nosabe [-\]: oh oh
colas [8k\]: here we go
BongoBob [6k\]: playing here already? o_o
iTengen [2k\]: b7 hard to spot
Uberdude [4d?\]: w's wall is weak
iTengen [2k\]: love it
Uberdude [4d?\]: e7 can be cut
GoNuggetGo: Hasn't a prayer of living
mooooo [6k\]: bob this is a demonstrations from usgo1
BongoBob [6k\]: i know..
gloooomph [1k\]: what is b plaiing?
mooooo [6k\]: oh you were talking about the move
Damasippus [7k?\]: b5 and c10 are miai
mooooo [6k\]: my bad
BongoBob [6k\]: i meant he's playing on b7 area right now?
Nosabe [-\]: miai
Uberdude [4d?\]: i was thinking of c8 c9 b5 but this doesn't strengthen white so much
Bauer [1k\]: bbw thought the joseki out at home
benwa [4k\]: b7 is nice
Nosabe [-\]: connect or live on the side
BongoBob [6k\]: ah i see.
BongoBob [6k\]: interesting
DariusA [3d\]: next move is B5
Vutopan [4d\]: are they brothers?
benwa [4k\]: or b9?
palapiku [-\]: seems like w will get an awesome wall out of this
Illyria [?\]: different last names, vutopan
Uberdude [4d?\]: no, they have different surnames
Theo9000 [3k\]: ^
Koffein [-\]: the e6 cut will be painful later
Vutopan [4d\]: really :)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: they have different family names
Theo9000 [3k\]: u and i are changed
buu [1d\]: uberdude .... nice name
Bauer [1k\]: i do not believe b5
Abraxas [7k\]: white may ignore and extend to the right, j5  or something
minimalist [1k\]: who won their first game?
DariusA [3d\]: B5 so that we can see some blood
palapiku [-\]: w may not ignore
Uberdude [4d?\]: resign
DariusA [3d\]: lol
Abraxas [7k\]: b9  or tenuki
Uberdude [4d?\]: w kick didn't work out
Uberdude [4d?\]: just playing normal overconcentrated joseki would be better than this
minimalist [1k\]: Liu or Lui won the first game?
Hobbes [2k\]: b9 b5 g5 h5 l16?
Illyria [?\]: liu
minimalist [1k\]: thx
DariusA [3d\]: bbw won minimalist
Warfreak2 [4d\]: also generally speaking it's not safe to assume chinese people are related when they have the same romanised family name; wang, for example, is the family name of about 93 million people
palapiku [-\]: bbw is the one who doesn't want to be pro?
DariusA [3d\]: it was an awesome game btw
DariusA [3d\]: a lot of upside downs
Uberdude [4d?\]: *ups and downs
DariusA [3d\]: oops :p
Theo9000 [3k\]: lol
Vizsla [3d\]: an upside down is an up?
cucurigu [3k\]: yea, pretty much
BongoBob [6k\]: well if the up-side, is down. then it's a down :p
Theo9000 [3k\]: relative
Theo9000 [3k\]: what is up and what is down?
DariusA [3d\]: w B5  go go go
Bauer [1k\]: in the last game, bbw lost 4 40 pt ko's and won nevertheles !
Bauer [1k\]: 2 ko's
DariusA [3d\]: 440 pt ? @_@
wallh [5k\]: yes
Loop [3k\]: g7
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;W[cj]
;B[bo]C[Theo9000 [3k\]: think he meant four 40 points ko's
Bauer [1k\]: 2 ko with 40 pt
DariusA [3d\]: C10 was sooooooooo painful
martin3141 [-\]: why?
gloooomph [1k\]: w has an awful lot of influence now
Damasippus [7k?\]: s16
mooooo [6k\]: i was wondering what w is doing but there arnt many points in this corner
BongoBob [6k\]: and b has a nice chunk of solid territory.
DariusA [3d\]: there is stil la cut on E6... awfull
Vizsla [3d\]: b has many points and w has a cut to deal with at f7 
Uberdude [4d?\]: 2 cuts
folmez [5k\]: w g7
Damasippus [7k?\]: or first h4
Abraxas [7k\]: m17  or n17 ?
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;W[qh]C[mooooo [6k\]: w is ok
]
;B[rg]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: m16 ?
Uberdude [4d?\]: or maybe k4
]
;W[kd]
;B[en]C[Vizsla [3d\]: theres no being ok if the other one is a tad bit okier 
martin3141 [-\]: black played 2 moves on the 2nd line, and w got sente ... even if there is a cut, I just feel that this is not bad for white
Hobbes [2k\]: l16 eventually!!
Vizsla [3d\]: i prefer b 
DariusA [3d\]: terrible cut is coming
Uberdude [4d?\]: martin, but all white's base are belong to black now
colas [8k\]: whites's guts and ballz
Loop [3k\]: exchange for center :P
indianayk [4d\]: b does not have a lot of points and it's unusual for eric to play for territory instead of outside influence
December [1d\]: g5
Nosabe [-\]: g7
Vizsla [3d\]: so whats the format of this tournament, everyone plays everyone, fixed number of rounds, or what?
Uberdude [4d?\]: peronanlly i would like k4 before l16 to probe could help with this cut
ptitlou [2d\]: but eric is w right ?
indianayk [4d\]: yes
mooooo [6k\]: j+
DariusA [3d\]: K4 ? 
DariusA [3d\]: lol
DariusA [3d\]: weird move :p
Nosabe [-\]: w should give up the stones
martin3141 [-\]: Uberdude: I remember that sentence, but I don't know where i heard it :P
Uberdude [4d?\]: k4 before l16
DariusA [3d\]: w won't sacrifie  it's too big
Vizsla [3d\]: this cut is dreadful, i see no way for w to proceed without giving up them. but thats a lot of stones to give up
indianayk [4d\]: andy is evaluating whether or not to give up f5 group
DariusA [3d\]: too many stones to give  up   w will save it
Uberdude [4d?\]: andy is black
Vizsla [3d\]: andy is b man
Theo9000 [3k\]: ^
Abraxas [7k\]: F5 is white group
martin3141 [-\]: actually w could tenuki and they could still run out (but that's bad for sure)
Abraxas [7k\]: Andy plays black
seckinoldo [6k\]: im not really keeping up with these games...how many games are they playing each?
Damasippus [7k?\]: I would immediately give them up.
DariusA [3d\]: 2 games each  i think 
martin3141 [-\]: what about f6 f7 e8 g7 h4 g3 h6 
Chachi [1d\]: isn't it fine because the cut is double atari?
Vizsla [3d\]: if give them up, but ive seen no 9d or pro give up so many stones this early in the game before
Vizsla [3d\]: i would*
Uberdude [4d?\]: watch yoda
Tsuijin [2d\]: zyoda?
DariusA [3d\]: what would zyoda do in this situation ?
Uberdude [4d?\]: but also thre a problem with reasonaing like that
Uberdude [4d?\]: if it was correct to sacrifice the stones
palapiku [-\]: zyoda would probably kill everything
Uberdude [4d?\]: the other playe wouldn't play the move white threatens to capture them
Warfreak2 [4d\]: why
Warfreak2 [4d\]: that doesn't follow
Warfreak2 [4d\]: the move which threatens them may have another effect than simply being half of a double-gote-capture
Abraxas [7k\]: the go player has infinite plans
Bauer [1k\]: Darius, what do you think of g5
DariusA [3d\]: nah w will F6  for the shape
DariusA [3d\]: can't allow a broken shape
Vizsla [3d\]: if w were to tenuki now? would b spend another move?
Vizsla [3d\]: i dont think so
Warfreak2 [4d\]: yes, because another move is valuable
Warfreak2 [4d\]: not just to capture but it can have other effects too
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if b adds g7, that doesn't simply seal but also reduces w centre
martin3141 [-\]: if black would not spend another move, then the cut itself is meaningless
Hobbes [2k\]: p15?
flintngun [3d\]: um of course white wouldn't tenuki here..
DariusA [3d\]: i wish myungwan was here to tell us
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;W[lp]C[Theo9000 [3k\]: O_o
]
;B[lq]C[Abraxas [7k\]: haha
gloooomph [1k\]: well m4 is cool
Abraxas [7k\]: he played to the right
DariusA [3d\]: he just play a sente move  but he will come back to F5 group
Theo9000 [3k\]: most likely
martin3141 [-\]: I think so too
Theo9000 [3k\]: i cannot see him ignoring it
Vizsla [3d\]: the moyo and saving those stones seem incompatible
Damasippus [7k?\]: h4?
martin3141 [-\]: f6 f7 h4 is my guess
]
;W[fn]
;B[fm]C[Chachi [1d\]: clamp looks good
Abraxas [7k\]: h4 doesnt grab the fish firmly
gtsby1: fish are slippery
Chachi [1d\]: g7
DariusA [3d\]: next move is G7
bronhomme: I thunk these guys played yesterday
DariusA [3d\]: nah they played today 
BongoBob [6k\]: they played this morning
December [1d\]: today
Vizsla [3d\]: how many games are they playing?
bronhomme: thats yesterday for me
DariusA [3d\]: 2 games i think
Nosabe [-\]: 3 game match
Chachi [1d\]: one will become pro?
DariusA [3d\]: oh
Nosabe [-\]: this is game number 2
Warfreak2 [4d\]: two
Bauer [1k\]: 2 games, if bbw wins, otherwise 3 !
DariusA [3d\]: andly liu will become pro most likely  the question is who will be the second ?
Nichiren [19k\]: me
]
;W[gm]
;B[fl]C[Nosabe [-\]: andy won the first game, if he wins this game he continues in the winner's bracket
]
;W[gl]
;B[fk]C[Lynx [1d\]: a2 was a clever move
benwa [4k\]: information can be found at: www.usgo.org/aga-professional-system/
Vizsla [3d\]: this is going to be one hell of a fight
Uberdude [4d?\]: w will live
DariusA [3d\]: fight mode on ^ ^
Uberdude [4d?\]: b will libe
bronhomme: thanks for the lunk
Uberdude [4d?\]: w centre will disappear
Uberdude [4d?\]: b will win
]
;W[gk]
;B[fj]C[martin3141 [-\]: w is just trading one center for another
Vizsla [3d\]: that would explain m4
DariusA [3d\]: multiple centers   lol
Abraxas [7k\]: maybe black center dies
]
;W[gj]
;B[fi]C[Abraxas [7k\]: d8 
Theo9000 [3k\]: d8 is terrible
barty [2d\]: c8
Abraxas [7k\]: i know
indianayk [4d\]: w still has plenty
Vizsla [3d\]: making points in this new center isnt easy
Vizsla [3d\]: many holes
Uberdude [4d?\]: w has c12 problem incoming
Vizsla [3d\]: p8 deffect. etc
Abraxas [7k\]: h5  first?
frozensoul [5d\]: whites thin on the left side lol
martin3141 [-\]: p8 is not a defect
Chachi [1d\]: h5
Uberdude [4d?\]: h12 about only consistent move
DariusA [3d\]: D8 for some blood 
iceweasel [-\]: h4?
Bauer [1k\]: h5 for center
Chachi [1d\]: k4 maybe
ronm [1k\]: i bet all my tygem points on andy, he'd better not let me down
DariusA [3d\]: next move isp robably H12
mrowmrow [10k?\]: AWWWWW YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
DariusA [3d\]: lol  goodbye 
Damasippus [7k?\]: To my rheumy eyes this looks like a bad plan for w.
mrowmrow [10k?\]: if bbw wins this is he a pro?
Bauer [1k\]: h12 is interesting
Architect [5k\]: there is no commentator today?
Architect [5k\]: in tygem
barty [2d\]: h12 not so good as could look
Bauer [1k\]: why ?
Abraxas [7k\]: h5 first
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;W[hh]C[DariusA [3d\]: commentator will be myungwan  on tygem  in 30 minutes i think ?
barty [2d\]: still g6 problem
manestor [2k\]: g6 
Abraxas [7k\]: oh
DariusA [3d\]: hey i was right !!!!!!
Rock2 [2d?\]: good enough for 7d
benwa [4k\]: I hope BBW becomes pro. I like watching him play on kgs
Abraxas [7k\]: maybe Barty was right
benwa [4k\]: Go DariusA!!
DariusA [3d\]: yay !
Bauer [1k\]: Darius is doped !
blurb1: comment in 1h
manestor [2k\]: g6 f13 
Abraxas [7k\]: maybe in the review they say " H12 was the losing move"
Lynx [1d\]: DariusA is showing off his kibitz powers
minimalist [1k\]: h6
Uberdude [4d?\]: darius just copied me
Architect [5k\]: lol
DariusA [3d\]: next move is C12 !
bronhomme: will the AGA pros be paid to study Go?
Lynx [1d\]: if he keeps this up, he'll get an honorary kibitz award
Vizsla [3d\]: h6 bad
]
;B[gh]C[martin3141 [-\]: hah
DariusA [3d\]: oh man =_=
martin3141 [-\]: :P
ronm [1k\]: one of these days your kibitz rank will catch up to bbw's go rank :)
Damasippus [7k?\]: Nice shape lesson here for the kyus
Uberdude [4d?\]: my kibitz rank was 30k, but they deranked me
benwa [4k\]: That lesson would be??
Damasippus [7k?\]: g12
martin3141 [-\]: ths is clearly aiming at g6-aji
barty [2d\]: now h5
ronm [1k\]: nah i think he wants the h8 mega clamp
barty [2d\]: then g12 black
manestor [2k\]: whit p15  and BAM game over
benwa [4k\]: what about D8?
DariusA [3d\]: lol D8 is definitely not playable
barty [2d\]: d8 not now
Uberdude [4d?\]: d8 is dame if you don't kill
martin3141 [-\]: g13 
barty [2d\]: maybe after some moves will be good
Uberdude [4d?\]: maybe w should e12 for hilarity
barty [2d\]: maybe just h11
DariusA [3d\]: next move is K5
Bauer [1k\]: h11 would be my move
minimalist [1k\]: h13
Slytherin [11k\]: t1
ranyee [4k\]: shouldnt w protect g6?
barty [2d\]: k5 looks interesting
barty [2d\]: but dont secure bottom
]
;W[gg]C[barty [2d\]: still a lot of aji
martin3141 [-\]: :-)
barty [2d\]: better h5
ronm [1k\]: strong style
barty [2d\]: if play on bottom
]
;B[hi]C[DariusA [3d\]: yea G13 for the shape after all..
martin3141 [-\]: j11 xD
DariusA [3d\]: lol
Chachi [1d\]: aiming at g6
DariusA [3d\]: G11 only move
Damasippus [7k?\]: game rapidly becoming a reading test
]
;W[gi]C[Illyria [?\]: andy plays so quickly
Theo9000 [3k\]: he alreayd read it out
Theo9000 [3k\]: ;)
DariusA [3d\]: andy is in a hurry to play lee sedol
martin3141 [-\]: j11 is often a tesuji in this shape i heard
]
;B[fh]C[BongoBob [6k\]: i hope it's a reading test. i mean they are fighting to become the first american pros...
barty [2d\]: after g13 cut in h11 is logical
indianayk [4d\]: h6?
Chachi [1d\]: so then... white has to answer at h6 now right?
barty [2d\]: now is important what play white
ronm [1k\]: he played a friend of mine in the canadian open a few years back, and it was the first time andy ever hit byo yomi when using canadian style, my friend had to teach him how to do it mid game lol...so yeah he is very fast
barty [2d\]: how secure
bert [3d\]: h4 
martin3141 [-\]: j11 
mrowmrow [10k?\]: who won game 1 between these two?
DariusA [3d\]: btw is there a age limit in this pro qualifier ?
ronm [1k\]: andy
mrowmrow [10k?\]: YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
Damasippus [7k?\]: That was my move, bert, ages ago
ronm [1k\]: no darius
DariusA [3d\]: i see
December [1d\]: goodbyte
benwa [4k\]: bye
Slytherin [11k\]: bai bai
Chachi [1d\]: h6 or h4?
UFO [-\]: or d12
minimalist [1k\]: h13
martin3141 [-\]: j11
ronm [1k\]: h13 the 1k move apparently because it's mine too
barty [2d\]: h6
benwa [4k\]: ladder doesn't work for white at h4
minimalist [1k\]: :)
indianayk [4d\]: ladder is in favor of w
]
;W[in]C[ronm [1k\]: it is now
Theo9000 [3k\]: c12
Firzen [3d\]: c12?
]
;B[hg]C[Chachi [1d\]: well now it's a net
]
;W[ih]C[Chachi [1d\]: time for d8?
Theo9000 [3k\]: c12>d8 imo
ronm [1k\]: won't d8 before c12
Lynx [1d\]: b has a lot of points; he must be feeling happy
Firzen [3d\]: c12 seems better, if white resists black can capture g13
spanglish [3k\]: somethin crazy like j11 now
Abraxas [7k\]: what points?
martin3141 [-\]: d8 was never in question
Theo9000 [3k\]: ^
Abraxas [7k\]: d8 is my move!
martin3141 [-\]: whoever plays there gets no points (except the questionable possibility to kill black)
]
;B[ch]C[spanglish [3k\]: c12 of course.
Abraxas [7k\]: (warning to new players) 7 kyu has no clue where to play
]
;W[bh]C[BongoBob [6k\]: (nor does 6kyu)
KFBlitz [1k\]: nor does low dan ;x
Firzen [3d\]: nor does 3d
GoNuggetGo: Only listen to the guy who says nothing.
Hobbes [2k\]: 2k neither
Jarndyce [3d\]: people are far too self-effacing these days
]
;B[gf]C[spanglish [3k\]: what is self-effacing
iwin [3k\]: what is g14
Firzen [3d\]: g14 is nice
Chachi [1d\]: i don't know
Theo9000 [3k\]: ^
indianayk [4d\]: f16
Firzen [3d\]: it forces white to commit to saving f13 if he wants to
Firzen [3d\]: thus making it harder to resist in the left
Firzen [3d\]: because black can get d13 in sente
spanglish [3k\]: you mean c13
Damasippus [7k?\]: Yes this looks unhappy for w
Firzen [3d\]: so white will probably d12 and give the stone to black
Firzen [3d\]: no, I mean d13
mkeller [2k\]: d13 is what b is aiming for
Hobbes [2k\]: g13 f 13 p15?
martin3141 [-\]: w can tenuki now
mkeller [2k\]: f13 d13 f14 b13 ?
BinX [-\]: d13 is a very strange shape
GoNuggetGo: j13 and take centre
]
;W[ig]
;B[fg]C[Theo9000 [3k\]: center still has issues tho
nujabes [5k\]: is that the tournament to become pro?
spanglish [3k\]: this cant be good
Architect [5k\]: b13
Abraxas [7k\]: d8 killing move
Hobbes [2k\]: p15
]
;W[fd]C[nujabes [5k\]: ?
]
;B[if]C[Architect [5k\]: b13 looks big
Uberdude [4d?\]: j14 so nice
Architect [5k\]: to black
Abraxas [7k\]: B 13  = nothing
mkeller [2k\]: b13 c13 b11 d12 c11 d11 ?
iwin [3k\]: w can connect if b13
Uberdude [4d?\]: b13=comething
Uberdude [4d?\]: some points
Firzen [3d\]: seems like endgame
Uberdude [4d?\]: w connects, but b makes profit
spanglish [3k\]: b still not alive
BinX [-\]: b likes profit
dliu301 [2k\]: looks like it end in gote
Hellhuman [1k\]: go b!
Architect [5k\]: b13 c13 d12 c11 d11 b10 
Vizsla [3d\]: b13 would limit b's options and force himto capture e7 eventually
Vizsla [3d\]: b wants to be settled without having to capture something so minuscule
Firzen [3d\]: I don't think b needs to worry about dying right now
ronm [1k\]: yeah b rather capture g8
Firzen [3d\]: b13 seems too slow
Architect [5k\]: in sente
]
;W[he]
;B[hf]
;W[kg]C[spanglish [3k\]: 9d move coming
Uberdude [4d?\]: it seems to me should have played j14
Firzen [3d\]: I would love to see b c15 ^^
Uberdude [4d?\]: yes allowing b f16 is painful
Uberdude [4d?\]: but f16 is gote with some followups
indianayk [4d\]: this is really eric's style of  game
GoNuggetGo: m9. Just to prove a point.
Uberdude [4d?\]: j14 is sente
December [1d\]: n14
spanglish [3k\]: l14 maybe
klabauter [2d\]: just met. did you discuss if g13 was overplay?
]
;B[ln]C[anant1111 [10k\]: black owned?
Uberdude [4d?\]: w ccentre is small, b can come in at m6
DariusA [3d\]: reducing time
Uberdude [4d?\]: darn i type too slowly
ronm [1k\]: lmao, discuss real strategy in kgs kibittz? you kidding klabauter?
spanglish [3k\]: d8
klabauter [2d\]: hehe
Firzen [3d\]: d8 is bad
DariusA [3d\]: uberdude  you are not predicting  just describing what's happening :p
Abraxas [7k\]: kyus want D8
klabauter [2d\]: i watched without seeing the kibbitz
Firzen [3d\]: black can easily live
ronm [1k\]: well we have discussed the strategy of d8 to death
klabauter [2d\]: and i thought it was overplay
martin3141 [-\]: why?
requiem [7k?\]: w j15
palapiku [-\]: the kyus have spoken
Architect [5k\]: but if white d8
Architect [5k\]: ?
BongoBob [6k\]: shall we discuss the w moyo which seems to have diminishing returns?
spanglish [3k\]: let kyus have it
Architect [5k\]: how should balck respond then
Architect [5k\]: ?
klabauter [2d\]: d8 is nothing...
spanglish [3k\]: d8 d8 d8!!
Slytherin [11k\]: d7!!!!
Abraxas [7k\]: white D8, black resign!
palapiku [-\]: haha
DariusA [3d\]: d8 is......................................n-o-t-h-i-n-g
ronm [1k\]: white d8 w resign
steady [1d\]: .
GoNuggetGo: white d8 w resing.
Theo9000 [3k\]: whoever plays d8 should res
steady [1d\]: u guys
ibd [-\]: what does that mean, pro finals? aren't these ppl pro already?
Theo9000 [3k\]: instantly
steady [1d\]: stoping saying
Slytherin [11k\]: d8<d7 juts saying
steady [1d\]: d8 is nothing
palapiku [-\]: what do you know DariusA, you aren't a kyu
Firzen [3d\]: white d8 both resign
steady [1d\]: d8 is a point
steady [1d\]: d8 can be placed a stone
December [1d\]: d9
steady [1d\]: but is just not much value
pototo120 [4k\]: m5 posible ???
martin3141 [-\]: I'd rather resign than play d8 :P
BongoBob [6k\]: d8 is endgame :p
klabauter [2d\]: ok I will go on reading just the game not the kibbitz
Illyria [?\]: yeah, I was wondering about m5 too
martin3141 [-\]: m7 
DariusA [3d\]: d8 is filling dame at the end of the end
December [1d\]: m7
Abraxas [7k\]: kyus fall in love with the stones, we want all of them to live
ronm [1k\]: t1 maybe better than d8
GoNuggetGo: r11.
ibd [-\]: so who do you think will become pro if he wins?
ibd [-\]: so exciting
Firzen [3d\]: r11 ajikeshi
ronm [1k\]: probably the one who wins i would guess
December [1d\]: k4
palapiku [-\]: didn't b say he doesn't want to be pro
Chachi [1d\]: is m6 overplay?
GoNuggetGo: I can make up words too. m7 Dosign.
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;W[lm]C[martin3141 [-\]: hah :-)
klabauter [2d\]: nice answer
GoNuggetGo: Yeah. exactly
DariusA [3d\]: M6 was awesome Chachi
]
;B[mm]C[Lynx [1d\]: but can W win like this?
palapiku [-\]: no
Uberdude [4d?\]: o14 next hole
ronm [1k\]: w can't win, i bet all my points on black
palapiku [-\]: it's all over
Abraxas [7k\]: of course W can win
Firzen [3d\]: o14?
Abraxas [7k\]: all W needs is to kill the black center to win
Firzen [3d\]: I think you can at least go with o13
Abraxas [7k\]: with D8
Hellhuman [1k\]: all need is kill
Hellhuman [1k\]: trololol
DariusA [3d\]: no w can't come back in the game anymore imransho
palapiku [-\]: w just keeps playing out of politeness really
palapiku [-\]: everyone knows it's over
ibd [-\]: signal to noise ratio is very low in kibitz today.
ronm [1k\]: in my ridiculously awesome .....honest opinion?
Hellhuman [1k\]: i wonder what you guys are talking
Chachi [1d\]: white wants to win
Hellhuman [1k\]: i dont really feel like w is far behind^^
DariusA [3d\]: not so*  ronm
]
;W[km]C[ronm [1k\]: gotcha, thanks
DariusA [3d\]: not so humble*
DariusA [3d\]: X)
spanglish [3k\]: n8
ronm [1k\]: ahh that makes more sense even
spanglish [3k\]: n8 is wolf move
Illyria [?\]: USGO, how much time do the players have left?
Vizsla [3d\]: originally really awesome
palapiku [-\]: they seem to play really fast
palapiku [-\]: for the time limit
DariusA [3d\]: N8 is the enxt move for sure
Jayy [-\]: the broadcaster can't read the chat supposedly
Firzen [3d\]: o7 looks interesting
Hellhuman [1k\]: n8 overplay
ronm [1k\]: sounds fake to me, a conspiracy is afoot
martin3141 [-\]: n8 is overplay for sure
Firzen [3d\]: n8 will get cut
DariusA [3d\]: let's see :D
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;B[lg]C[DariusA [3d\]: ok X)
ronm [1k\]: woooow
BinX [-\]: you didn't see this one, uh ? :p
Firzen [3d\]: I didn't see that coming
palapiku [-\]: this is just...
Jayy [-\]: bbw style
martin3141 [-\]: lol
Illyria [?\]: wow, crazy
Lynx [1d\]: it's... shinte!
Firzen [3d\]: this move is brilliant
palapiku [-\]: this is why b should be pro
Hellhuman [1k\]: bbw so cool :3
spanglish [3k\]: whats with this move
Hellhuman [1k\]: *sent my panties to him
Gillis [5k?\]: did anyone even read that?
Hellhuman [1k\]: i wanna have a child 
Hellhuman [1k\]: of him
BinX [-\]: it's always fun to play some probe here and there ^^
Gillis [5k?\]: seeing how the crowd went wild
Architect [5k\]: l14!
palapiku [-\]: you don't need to read to see that it's awesome
Gillis [5k?\]: yeah like
donadoni [3k?\]: w must be aggressive now
Firzen [3d\]: black gets miaia with l14 and o13
Abraxas [7k\]: if I called M13 they will shout "thats bad"
Gillis [5k?\]: someone playing tengen in early middle game
Gillis [5k?\]: everyone is amazed
Architect [5k\]: l14
Gillis [5k?\]: but don't know why
Architect [5k\]: if black oqe white get d8
DariusA [3d\]: Gillis you think too much
Abraxas [7k\]: maybe some  9dan says this is overplay
Gillis [5k?\]: well
Gillis [5k?\]: I can't deny I enjoyed that move as well
Loop [3k\]: is w r13 sente against r9 ?
Firzen [3d\]: at this point I think everyone who says d8 is trolling
DariusA [3d\]: hehe
Architect [5k\]: l14 for sure
Architect [5k\]: only move
Gillis [5k?\]: but I still have no idea of the variations
spanglish [3k\]: l12
BinX [-\]: I want to say d8 from now on... :p
Abraxas [7k\]: Firzen i said D8 first, to connect and cut, not to troll
Gillis [5k?\]: though I haven't even tried to read it yet
Chachi [1d\]: n13
DariusA [3d\]: n13 would be a disaster
Abraxas [7k\]: now? L14
ronm [1k\]: n13 is a connect 5 move not a go move
spanglish [3k\]: m12
Firzen [3d\]: not sure Darius, n13 is also interesting
dliu301 [2k\]: its a bad connect5 move too
martin3141 [-\]: w could try o16 to resist from being forced
BinX [-\]: k14  is shape maybe ? but seems pretty soft on m13
palapiku [-\]: B4 is a good connect five move
dliu301 [2k\]: yeah, double threat
Gillis [5k?\]: white should play  P18 just for the sake of attention
palapiku [-\]: haha
Architect [5k\]: l14
]
;W[kf]C[Architect [5k\]: ^^
Architect [5k\]: hehehe
palapiku [-\]: good call
Rock2 [2d?\]: yay Architect!
Abraxas [7k\]: L14, kyus win
palapiku [-\]: kyu pride
Lynx [1d\]: Architect, wowza
Firzen [3d\]: o13?
Gillis [5k?\]: hahaha
DariusA [3d\]: congrats
Architect [5k\]: black cant ignorw d8
DariusA [3d\]: N8
Architect [5k\]: or e8
Firzen [3d\]: black also can't ignore s11
Firzen [3d\]: thst doesn't mean it's a good move though
martin3141 [-\]: n8 n7 
Gillis [5k?\]: black L10 now... mindblow everyone here
Koffein [-\]: every move is gote
Chachi [1d\]: n8 looks like overplay
DariusA [3d\]: n8 n7 o6
Firzen [3d\]: l12 must be so tempting right now
Hellhuman [1k\]: there are no local moves
BinX [-\]: n7 is played, so n7 is illegal move.
Abraxas [7k\]: L10 no, but M11 possible
martin3141 [-\]: n8 n6 o6 n5 o7 
DariusA [3d\]: n8 n6 o6 sorry
Theo9000 [3k\]: nonsense Bin
ptitlou [2d\]: p8 ?
pototo120 [4k\]: p8 bad ???
December [1d\]: f15
Theo9000 [3k\]: you've never heard of the infamous stone stacking tesuji?
Architect [5k\]: black will e8
]
;B[bg]C[BinX [-\]: binx* but you can't play on a played stone
Gillis [5k?\]: omg
martin3141 [-\]: sorry n8 n6 o6 n5 o5 o7 
Abraxas [7k\]: B13, another kyu call
palapiku [-\]: d8
Theo9000 [3k\]: i purposely left of the x bin
Chachi [1d\]: isnt this bad for black?
BinX [-\]: back really loves cash
Gillis [5k?\]: hmm
Architect [5k\]: c13 b11 d12 c11 d11 b10 
Gillis [5k?\]: isn't this sente?
Gillis [5k?\]: I mean
Gillis [5k?\]: white don't wanna lose that
palapiku [-\]: of course it is sente
Firzen [3d\]: black will get 14 in sente
Firzen [3d\]: e14*
Firzen [3d\]: so he should be fine
martin3141 [-\]: not sure about that
]
;W[cg]
;B[bi]C[martin3141 [-\]: the timing is critical
]
;W[dh]
;B[ah]C[Abraxas [7k\]: B ends in gote
BinX [-\]: well, sente is not "w will answer the first move" but "the last move of the sequence will be from w"
Architect [5k\]: ko
DariusA [3d\]: smells like ko indeed
Architect [5k\]: if d8
Firzen [3d\]: ko?
Gillis [5k?\]: eh
GoNuggetGo: ko only option
Firzen [3d\]: white can just d11
Gillis [5k?\]: why would white want KO?
December [1d\]: b10
GoNuggetGo: To win obviously.
spanglish [3k\]: wolf didnt take his medication today
Gillis [5k?\]: D11 and if cut just ladder
GoNuggetGo: worth about 20 points
bronhomme: lol
palapiku [-\]: d8
Abraxas [7k\]: if W d8  now, what would they say?
Architect [5k\]: but d8 is so greedy
Chachi [1d\]: d8 wont work
Firzen [3d\]: d8 is do or die
Chachi [1d\]: white will lose the semeai because 1 eye vs no eye
fef [7k\]: C11.
ptitlou [2d\]: d8 only way to catch back ?
December [1d\]: d11
Architect [5k\]: d11  
Firzen [3d\]: d11 or b10, seem the only options
fef [7k\]: D11 = alive
Architect [5k\]: d11 is big
palapiku [-\]: d8 is obviously dangerous but does it fail?
Chachi [1d\]: c11 i think
fef [7k\]: C11 is for balls out
fef [7k\]: D11 is for pussy
Firzen [3d\]: ...
Theo9000 [3k\]: >.>
Architect [5k\]: if white d11 black must c11 to live.. then white d8
Gillis [5k?\]: lol
ronm [1k\]: thank you for clarifying all of go to me, fef
Theo9000 [3k\]: lol
martin3141 [-\]: I agree d11 is submissive
fef [7k\]: np bro d;
palapiku [-\]: i can't imagine w playing d11
Lynx [1d\]: if it were that obvious, it'd be played already
Architect [5k\]: d11 kill c12
]
;W[di]C[fef [7k\]: omg white
Tartarichi [-\]: :)
Gillis [5k?\]: I told you so!!!
martin3141 [-\]: xD
fef [7k\]: where is his pride
Architect [5k\]: ^^
Firzen [3d\]: good job
DariusA [3d\]: lol
palapiku [-\]: well... now i can imagine it
Chachi [1d\]: e14
Architect [5k\]: e8
Firzen [3d\]: c15
Architect [5k\]: e8
palapiku [-\]: d8
Firzen [3d\]: I want that move so much
fef [7k\]: we now know that white isn't a man
ptitlou [2d\]: c15 ?
Architect [5k\]: e8
]
;B[bf]C[Lynx [1d\]: what is he, fef, a crab-person?
Gillis [5k?\]: O_o
Chachi [1d\]: E14
Gillis [5k?\]: well I guess
DariusA [3d\]: B14 awesomeness
HFIRE [5k\]: hohoho
tvh [2k\]: now d8?
BinX [-\]: I was thinking about b14, can't believe he really played it XD
martin3141 [-\]: b14 was obvious
nujabes [5k\]: to early to d8
Gillis [5k?\]: wait
Firzen [3d\]: black can live locally, d8 is worthless
December [1d\]: d8
klabauter [2d\]: d8 dont work
Jayy [-\]: d8 doesn't work
Gillis [5k?\]: that was genius
Architect [5k\]: white cant d8
Architect [5k\]: good reading by black
nujabes [5k\]: there is aji now for  w aswell
fef [7k\]: white resigns
December [1d\]: d8
Architect [5k\]: d8 c15
Gillis [5k?\]: d8 possible?
Gillis [5k?\]: I mean
Gillis [5k?\]: D13 open for cut
Firzen [3d\]: I would have loved to see c15 though
martin3141 [-\]: d8 e14 
nujabes [5k\]: w must c 15 now
December [1d\]: exchange
Gillis [5k?\]: C15 is kinda move I would play instantly
bert [3d\]: e13 
December [1d\]: 2vs 22
Tsuijin [2d\]: commentary on 1st board starting up tygem korea 1 server
RobertT [-\]: Myungwan Kim 9P is doing live commentary of this game on Tygem's korea 1
spanglish [3k\]: someone transpose here
Architect [5k\]: c16
Firzen [3d\]: it's a shame I don'T speak korean then
Tsuijin [2d\]: u can't transpose here
Architect [5k\]: c16 is  agood shape
RobertT [-\]: its english commentary
Chachi [1d\]: d8 gets ugly
Firzen [3d\]: if c16 black will d13
palapiku [-\]: the entire proposed pro system is affiliated with Tygem, does it mean there won't be KGS broadcasts
Gillis [5k?\]: there is still the cut at D13
Gillis [5k?\]: which makes it so damn annoying
RobertT [-\]: Myungwan Kim is doing english commentary on this game
Architect [5k\]: c16 d13 e13
Architect [5k\]: lol
Architect [5k\]: nvm
Jayy [-\]: Right now?
December [1d\]: full
nujabes [5k\]: ty robert!
Firzen [3d\]: oh
]
;W[ce]C[Architect [5k\]: w resign
Lynx [1d\]: c15 was a fairly obvious move imo
spanglish [3k\]: good move
BinX [-\]: it was pretty natural indeed
Firzen [3d\]: Lynx, so?
Gillis [5k?\]: well
]
;B[je]C[spanglish [3k\]: iot just feels too gote
nujabes [5k\]: how can we listen the commentary on tygem?
Gillis [5k?\]: B15 would work in sente?
Gillis [5k?\]: nvm
palapiku [-\]: it's not really gote because b has to protect e8 at some point...
BinX [-\]: I don't understand this kikashi
Chachi [1d\]: d8 is a threat now
martin3141 [-\]: c15 actually makes miai of d8 and b10 even?
Chachi [1d\]: thats why
spanglish [3k\]: isnt that the guy from naruto?
Firzen [3d\]: the kikashi is so that if w plays l15, black can live with e14 f15
Chachi [1d\]: if white gets d8 then black is dead, so he's making kikashi to break out before it happens
]
;W[ke]
;B[gd]C[Gillis [5k?\]: cmon Tygem installer....
Firzen [3d\]: or just live in sente right away
hazanx: hello firzen
BinX [-\]: oh, it seems he saw a better sequence than yours, but thanks for giving me an answer anyway
December [1d\]: hi
hazanx: hi december
Rochedale [7k\]: I'm sure this has been asked a million times, but who are the players?
Gillis [5k?\]: Asians
palapiku [-\]: american chinese kids
Gillis [5k?\]: pretty sure
hazanx: i think andy liu is bigbadwolf on kgs
]
;W[gc]C[Jayy [-\]: Americans
December [1d\]: what a lovely day to kibitz
BinX [-\]: so I thik k15 was prettty great
]
;B[be]C[ricedragon [1k\]: does anyone know how calvin sun is doing?
hazanx: Eric Liu i dont know who is
ricedragon [1k\]: there's canadians
ricedragon [1k\]: and koreans
Architect [5k\]: d8
Gillis [5k?\]: they are probably swedish
]
;W[bd]
;B[fe]C[hazanx: :D
Firzen [3d\]: you and your d8...
BinX [-\]: try sensei's library : http://senseis.xmp.net/?EricLui
]
;W[fb]C[GoNuggetGo: they hail from the isle of tortuga.
antipanda [6k\]: lui versus liu ;)
bronhomme: is the tournament all-play-all format?
requiem [7k?\]: h16
Vizsla [3d\]: b has miai now?
Faonig [1k\]: d8 is useless now
palapiku [-\]: finally we will find out who comes first, U or I
ricedragon [1k\]: it's a double elimination i think
Chachi [1d\]: i cant believe he lived in sente
Faonig [1k\]: not needed*
Firzen [3d\]: b will want e14 in sent I think
praeludium [5d\]: close game
hazanx: Lui is Luigi?
Rochedale [7k\]: Who is which color? (my phone doesn't say)
hazanx: Mario and Luigi
max777 [2k\]: RoberT  how can we listen to the commentary on tygem ?
]
;B[ef]C[palapiku [-\]: Rochedale, bbw is b
Chachi [1d\]: e13
martin3141 [-\]: maybe w regrets now that d11 is not at c11
Jayy [-\]: w is Eric lui B is Andy liu
December [1d\]: pierre luigi
]
;W[eg]C[Rochedale [7k\]: Thanks.
ricedragon [1k\]: >.>
ricedragon [1k\]: i played eric lui last month
RobertT [-\]: if you have tygme you just log on to korea 1 and join his game relay
Chachi [1d\]: b needs d8
palapiku [-\]: i noticed this before on the mobile client, annoying
ricedragon [1k\]: got 5 handi and still got pwned lol
RobertT [-\]: if you dont have tygem you have to download tygem, make a tygem account then log on
palapiku [-\]: it doesn't say the names of the players
praeludium [5d\]: you're only 1k
klabauter [2d\]: how did they play in the first match?
]
;B[io]C[praeludium [5d\]: it means nothing 
max777 [2k\]: I see the game but I have no commentary
Chachi [1d\]: b is alive? i thought that eye is false
RobertT [-\]: it isnt the actual game
RobertT [-\]: look for the game relay roo 
Firzen [3d\]: lol, does black want to prepare getting o7?
RobertT [-\]: room*
praeludium [5d\]: n17 looks bigger
RobertT [-\]: MWKim 9p
klabauter [2d\]: d8 h16 miai for life
spanglish [3k\]: b acn always d8
max777 [2k\]: room 430 ?
Architect [5k\]: how can i listen the comments in tygem?
GoNuggetGo: umm... something wrong with g15?
RobertT [-\]: room 267
December [1d\]: i can see him 
max777 [2k\]: oh thx
Chachi [1d\]: how does h16 live?
Firzen [3d\]: you get e15 after the sente sequence
]
;W[jn]
;B[ho]C[Chachi [1d\]: oh
]
;W[hn]C[Chachi [1d\]: you're right
BinX [-\]: f14 is eye, or b connects ith d8
praeludium [5d\]: game looks sligthly better for w with c11 weakness
palapiku [-\]: n6?
]
;B[no]C[Lynx [1d\]: W has been playing a very good middle game imo
palapiku [-\]: oh
BinX [-\]: cash, cash, cash
]
;W[ml]C[Firzen [3d\]: cool move, that's why I'm not pro xD
Chachi [1d\]: p13 i guess
Firzen [3d\]: o13?
Hellhuman [1k\]: o13 
littlebird [2k\]: whats up with c11? too small?
]
;B[of]C[praeludium [5d\]: yes b understimated c10-d10 strength 
praeludium [5d\]: push was a very good strategy by w 
Chachi [1d\]: looks bad for white
praeludium [5d\]: n17
Abraxas [7k\]: p18
Firzen [3d\]: not sure if n17 is sufficiently large
Firzen [3d\]: I would think, that if w n17 black m11
Vizsla [3d\]: the other game is 75 moves behind
praeludium [5d\]: n17 o13
BinX [-\]: m11 too deep I think
praeludium [5d\]: m11 overplay 
Abraxas [7k\]: m11 nice overplay
BinX [-\]: o12 or n12 might be possible
Firzen [3d\]: might be, I have a tendency for that
Chachi [1d\]: is q15 possible after n17
Gillis [5k?\]: anyone know where the live commentary is?
fef [7k\]: u dont like kibitz?
Abraxas [7k\]: in the other server
fef [7k\]: admit it
Tabemasu [7d?\]: korea 1 on tygem
BinX [-\]: o12 better shape I guess, but still too deep ?
grumpyjoe [-\]: i think on korea server
grumpyjoe [-\]: yeah
praeludium [5d\]: o12 or n12 too thin
Gillis [5k?\]: yeah I checked in on korea 1 but could only find the game but with no commentary (first time on Tygem)
Firzen [3d\]: thinking about it I live o13
BinX [-\]: but can you cut o12 ?
Firzen [3d\]: it enables stuff around n8
Firzen [3d\]: *like
grumpyjoe [-\]: that is in aga room
praeludium [5d\]: p13 is easy cut? 
USGO1 [-\]: dinner break
palapiku [-\]: yay
benwa [4k\]: if white defends at e8, where is B's second eye?
palapiku [-\]: g15 or so
palapiku [-\]: then e15
]
;W[ge]
;B[dl]
;W[cl]
;B[cm]C[Ataxia [3k\]: Andy ♥
]
;W[ci]
;B[bk]
;W[bj]
;B[aj]
;W[bl]
;B[al]
;W[ck]
;B[ak]C[lepore [1d\]: who won first game today?
Nosabe [-\]: black, andy liu
]
;W[bh]C[Ataxia [3k\]: w e8 can kill ? 
benwa [4k\]: nope
Lynx [1d\]: Ataxia - snapback at e9
]
;B[ng]C[Nosabe [-\]: w e8, b e9, w d7, b d8
Ataxia [3k\]: yep I just read it, ty
]
;W[mh]
;B[nh]
;W[mi]C[spar [6k\]: -
]
;B[ni]C[RobertT [-\]: gg b win
]
;W[mj]
;B[lc]
;W[ai]
;B[am]C[spar [6k\]: z5 game f0 gg
]
;W[jp]
;B[iq]
;W[ne]
;B[mg]C[colas [8k\]: k18 or  o8 could be interesing for b?
]
;W[nc]
;B[nb]C[AncientZen [3k\]: is this live?
colas [8k\]: what live?
Nosabe [-\]: the game is being played now
]
;W[oe]C[RobertT [-\]: this game is being played in person, this is a broadcast of the live game.
mon90: lui vs liu
AncientZen [3k\]: is there a video feed?
KiritoArt: is it just me, or is andy controlling the pace
palapiku [-\]: if by controlling the pace you mean winning, then yeah
KiritoArt: This last white move seems to shift it to white, but up until now black has had his way. I mean white isnt behind, but still I feel like this is what black designed
Lynx [1d\]: b can cut no?
]
;B[qf]C[MacGyver [2d?\]: p18 
]
;W[ob]
;B[mc]C[KiritoArt: r15 for some fun
]
;W[nd]
;B[pb]C[MacGyver [2d?\]: r15? does it work?
KiritoArt: who knows?
KiritoArt: it gets white inside
]
;W[kc]
;B[oa]C[Firzen [3d\]: nice sente ^^
Loop [3k\]: r11 q14
spanglish [3k\]: how is it sente
Firzen [3d\]: white o14?
grumpyjoe [-\]: doesn't it just get him inside a ponnuki?
Firzen [3d\]: threatens the cut with n15
]
;W[nf]C[MacGyver [2d?\]: o14 just takes liberties
]
;B[pg]C[MacGyver [2d?\]: hmm
alphapiy [7k\]: o14 connects
MacGyver [2d?\]: that's tru
Chachi [1d\]: m12?
guest222: white is winning
lepore [1d\]: b11 huge but does w have time for gote move?
taringa [1k\]: a13 ?
goren2 [3k\]: b2 f14 and p18.  nice
]
;W[rn]
;B[lh]C[DariusA [3d\]: according to the 9p  w lost
Firzen [3d\]: w seems quite far behind
grumpyjoe [-\]: i count w behind too
]
;W[ki]C[MacGyver [2d?\]: bbw ftw
Firzen [3d\]: j15?
Firzen [3d\]: j15, h16, k17
]
;B[kh]C[goren2 [3k\]: n6 seems likenice sente
Uberdude [4d?\]: shortage of libs with m15 and h11 combo?
]
;W[jh]
;B[li]
;W[lj]C[MacGyver [2d?\]: b11 biggish
]
;B[rm]C[colas [8k\]: o9 
]
;W[pe]
;B[qi]
;W[ph]
;B[qg]
;W[op]C[Chachi [1d\]: does white definitely win the ko at a13?
]
;B[mp]C[Javaness [3d\]: it depends who wins the ko
cjalden [3k\]: he does if he captures a13
MacGyver [2d?\]: then it's not definite win for w
grumpyjoe [-\]: bbw still maneuvering to cut
]
;W[kb]C[alphapiy [7k\]: b would have to spend 2 moves there for 10 points maybe
]
;B[nl]C[lepore [1d\]: more than 10 points alph
Lynx [1d\]: the cut scares me
mrowmrow [10k?\]: darius how do you get 9p commentary O_o
Jayy [-\]: It's on tygem
Jayy [-\]: But it's over now
]
;W[nk]
;B[ol]C[mrowmrow [10k?\]: oh, i see
Ilidas [4d\]: this hurts
Chachi [1d\]: o7?
]
;W[ok]C[MacGyver [2d?\]: o7 q8 
]
;B[mn]C[Trefender [13k\]: When's the commentary actually happen? Will it be going on tomorrow?
BongoBob [6k\]: well it happened already for this game..
December [1d\]: eastern 10:30
Chachi [1d\]: s1
BongoBob [6k\]: but there will be some tomorrow as well.
Jayy [-\]: On tygem in korea 1
grumpyjoe [-\]: is the game over over there or did he just stop early?
]
;W[pl]
;B[nm]C[MacGyver [2d?\]: b wins... time to go to sleep
BongoBob [6k\]: yeah. that
Illyria [?\]: s1?
MacGyver [2d?\]: gg bbw
]
;W[qn]
;B[rs]C[DariusA [3d\]: w dead ?
DariusA [3d\]: ko
Babur [1d\]: it looks dead
grumpyjoe [-\]: no time to maximize points
DariusA [3d\]: it's at least ko
]
;W[sr]
;B[ro]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: w should just s1
Babur [1d\]: but w didn't play S6 for nothing
Babur [1d\]: except if he didn't read
DariusA [3d\]: well sometimes you read without believing
]
;W[sp]C[Babur [1d\]: this guy is 7d
]
;B[sn]C[jonah [5k\]: that makes him a lost 7d then
grumpyjoe [-\]: q6 lib
]
;W[so]
;B[rp]
;W[rq]C[Theo9000 [3k\]: dead
]
;B[sq]C[parameterX: tesujifull :D
BongoBob [6k\]: o_o
]
;W[so]
;B[sp]C[BongoBob [6k\]: what
]
;W[qo]C[parameterX: omg
Babur [1d\]: why is he 7d
]
;B[so]C[BongoBob [6k\]: nice.
parameterX: OMG
Babur [1d\]: dead
DariusA [3d\]: lol
Ilidas [4d\]: ...
Warfreak2 [4d\]: classic
Javaness [3d\]: nice move
grumpyjoe [-\]: bbw scares me
Fiara [4k\]: Dafuq I just see?
Ilidas [4d\]: easy in tsumego but hard in the actual game :)
BongoBob [6k\]: .
Trefender [13k\]: ...
BongoBob [6k\]: haha
DariusA [3d\]: it was actually USGO1 troll
Javaness [3d\]: is that a resign sequence?
parameterX: aw
]
;W[sm]
;B[sp]C[Babur [1d\]: w resign a long time ago
Babur [1d\]: usgo is playin g
BongoBob [6k\]: w resign now?
grumpyjoe [-\]: really?
Babur [1d\]: +ed
colas [8k\]: toasted
palapiku [-\]: awesome
DariusA [3d\]: did w seriously play this ?
BongoBob [6k\]: yep..
Theo9000 [3k\]: apparently
USGO1 [-\]: white resigns
Babur [1d\]: ....
taringa [1k\]: pity
grumpyjoe [-\]: this was resign move?
Babur [1d\]: wtf was that
gnarf [1k\]: thx usgo
DariusA [3d\]: ok thanks USGO1
grumpyjoe [-\]: thanks
Babur [1d\]: was w in byo yomi?
Javaness [3d\]: thanks
taringa [1k\]: tx
matsutoya [13k\]: arigatou
Jayy [-\]: Thanks
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