(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[4th AGA Pro Qual Finals Round 4 Eric Lui 7d (W) vs Aaron Ye 7d (B)]PW[Eric Lui]PB[Aaron Ye]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2016-01-04]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Richard Dolen with emergency help from Dennis Wheeler]RE[W+14.50]
;B[cp]
;W[qd]
;B[dc]
;W[pq]
;B[eq]
;W[oc]
;B[po]
;W[de]
;B[np]
;W[cc]C[USGO4 [-\]: Good afternoon folks this is your scribe, Richard Dolen.
kmr [2d\]: Q5 mean black thinks komi is so big that he cant afford to play shimari in top left corner.Anyway up to position looks like taken from Edo period game, nice to see it
kmr [2d\]: Hi Richard, thx for relay
kmr [2d\]: whisper USGO5 to update crosstable ;)
USGO5 [-\]: working on it
]
;B[cb]
;W[cd]
;B[eb]C[USGO5 [-\]: so much to do... so little time
USGO4 [-\]: In this tournament, the scribes are not allowed to watch the chats.  So I can't enjoy your inestimable remarks, and I can't even read never mind answer your questions..  Please address all questions to the chat at USGO5.
kmr [2d\]: when i was younger i wanted to be like this guys, play in tournaments, gets rank and be stronger, but life forced me to change pririties, now i find very fun to watch these games and wonder who will become nex pro..^^ getting older ;)
kmr [2d\]: oh, sure :)
kmr [2d\]: But....if you are not allowed to see chat, how you see through what i writed? ^^
kmr [2d\]: C10 or C11
kmr [2d\]: C11 seems more solid and better imho
]
;W[fc]
;B[ed]
;W[ci]
;B[ck]
;W[nq]C[USGO4 [-\]: The player time limits are 90 minutes plus 5 periods of 30 seconds,
]
;B[qq]
;W[mp]
;B[pr]
;W[oq]
;B[qp]
;W[jq]
;B[ic]C[kmr [2d\]: R10 looks biggest
]
;W[qj]
;B[ql]
;W[kc]C[kmr [2d\]: up to now i like white much more
]
;B[fd]C[Nathan [2k\]: me too
]
;W[ei]C[Nathan [2k\]: was r3 in the bottom right joseki? i feel like i would have n3 instead
kmr [2d\]: LR sequence looks a bit suspicious
]
;B[qh]
;W[pl]
;B[qm]
;W[oi]C[kmr [2d\]: according to eidogo Q2 should be Q4 then P3-R2-K3.Looks like in game black has worse endgame but no weakness at R4(i mean possible weakness maybe).Looks like in game black got inferior result since he anyway extended to R8 imho
]
;B[qe]
;W[pe]C[HKA [3d?\]: These two played an extemely long game at the Go Congress this year - I cannot recall who won
embeck [4k\]: I could be wrong...but I think in every one of Aaron's games in this tournament he has attached to side of opponent's 3-4 point
embeck [4k\]: He must like this tactic
agakenny [3d\]: HKA check this http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/173
]
;B[qf]C[Nathan [2k\]: Eric won
]
;W[rd]
;B[og]C[HKA [3d?\]: Yeah, third round
HKA [3d?\]: I checked
]
;W[qk]
;B[oe]
;W[pd]C[kmr [2d\]: hmm i still like white, but this P11 keima looks a bit too much if now white playd solidly at R9.Maybe just Q11 instead of this double keima combo?
]
;B[pi]
;W[oj]
;B[oh]C[MoonKnight [1d\]: is q11 for o11 when w o12?
]
;W[on]C[ob2: nice move
MoonKnight [1d\]: q9?
]
;B[mo]
;W[no]
;B[oo]
;W[nn]
;B[op]
;W[lp]C[HKA [3d?\]: seems the worst possible cut for black, but it is cut
smile23 [3k\]: somehow i would have expected m4 instead of p5
greenbean [2d?\]: I would rather be white
PAPANINJA [4k\]: why cut now? seems premature
feda [5d\]: b made big mistake i think
ob2: w is good shape everywhere
feda [5d\]: b played 2 stones o4 and p5 that are useless in exchange for stronger w shape
feda [5d\]: and n5 not a big deal because both w stones safe
feda [5d\]: both w groups
feda [5d\]: b help w fix all the weakness in shape in o5 area
MoonKnight [1d\]: what b can do next?
MoonKnight [1d\]: f8?
smile23 [3k\]: i would either like to defend against c6 with a play at e9 or play n17
]
;B[nl]
;W[ol]
;B[hq]C[HKA [3d?\]: when in doubt take the last fuseki point
]
;W[fp]C[HKA [3d?\]: Feels right, not that I could find it in two hours with a Shuko book
]
;B[ho]
;W[fq]C[HKA [3d?\]: black is again aggressive
USGO5 [-\]: updated results and game records can be found on the AGA website: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2015
]
;B[er]
;W[ep]
;B[fr]
;W[dp]
;B[cq]
;W[dn]
;B[el]
;W[fm]C[PAPANINJA [4k\]: this looks scary for black
]
;B[fl]
;W[gm]
;B[im]
;W[gl]
;B[fj]
;W[ej]C[ob2: nice
MoonKnight [1d\]: c7/
MoonKnight [1d\]: ?
]
;B[fk]C[ob2: b shape is terrible
]
;W[hk]
;B[fi]
;W[jl]C[feda [5d\]: b fell behind last 20 moves. maybe last chance is n17 now
ob2: h2 can cut
]
;B[il]
;W[ik]
;B[jk]
;W[kl]
;B[kk]
;W[lk]
;B[ll]
;W[lm]
;B[ml]
;W[km]
;B[om]
;W[pn]
;B[pm]
;W[qn]
;B[rn]
;W[ro]
;B[qo]
;W[rm]
;B[mn]
;W[sn]
;B[nm]
;W[rn]C[mooooo [3k\]: l6 
guest2: l6 looks good
]
;B[kn]C[battery [1d?\]: cut
guest2: white can't cut
Vinicius [1d\]: s8
guest2: s8 yeah
smile23 [3k\]: s8 is sente against the corner
LoneStar [3d\]: m6 coe on wht else u can play
LoneStar [3d\]: come on*
guest2: m6 m5...
guest2: white can't safe 4 stones and side stones
Vinicius [1d\]: if w m6 b can s8
LoneStar [3d\]: 5 dide
LoneStar [3d\]: trust me
Vinicius [1d\]: but if w s8.. b protect corner and w can play m6
LoneStar [3d\]: m6 will bring w fortune and fame
guest2: m6 s8 doesn't work but m6 m5 l5 n7 k6 s8 works
battery [1d?\]: m5 is bad
guest2: maybe better to do m6 n7 then
guest2: but i think b happy to play m5 if w does m6
]
;W[ln]C[LoneStar [3d\]: see
LoneStar [3d\]: hnds down
LoneStar [3d\]: hands
]
;B[lo]
;W[ko]
;B[mm]C[guest2: we'll see how it goes
LoneStar [3d\]: just isten 
]
;W[jn]C[LoneStar [3d\]: listen
battery [1d?\]: b in trouble now
LoneStar [3d\]: m10
]
;B[jm]
;W[kn]C[LoneStar [3d\]: ok save it first
LoneStar [3d\]: j6 dude
LoneStar [3d\]: if not why atri
LoneStar [3d\]: atari
LoneStar [3d\]: its a sin to fill own liberty
ob2: w plays safe win.
guest2: i see s8 doesn't wrok 
LoneStar [3d\]: why no one who spoke oppsed to m6 says nothing now
battery [1d?\]: :)
YZ1509 [4d\]: well these guys ain't 9p yet, so accidents happen
LoneStar [3d\]: how about ursef
LoneStar [3d\]: urself
JeansebL [1d?\]: s8 kills no?
]
;B[lj]C[haku123 [2d\]: there are some famous 9p accidents too
HKA [3d?\]: shuko was notorious for them
ob2: now s8
raingo [3d\]: No s8 would loose the liberty race
guest2: if b did s8 w had n9
LoneStar [3d\]: see dudes
LoneStar [3d\]: i called it twice in a row
HKA [3d?\]: and its all about you
]
;W[rl]C[raingo [3d\]: Congrats lonestar
haku123 [2d\]: thumbs up
ob2: b will die either top or corner
smile23 [3k\]: now one black side dies...
smile23 [3k\]: ^^
]
;B[in]C[LoneStar [3d\]: see dudes this is b sente anytime
guest2: will w play j5 here
LoneStar [3d\]: b should defend w h2 after this move
ob2: k4
]
;W[jp]
;B[mk]C[LoneStar [3d\]: uh
guest2: have to n9
kaworu [2k\]: s2 now?
battery [1d?\]: k4 sente
ob2: s4 kill
guest2: or else big black group died
LoneStar [3d\]: h2
LoneStar [3d\]: ah
battery [1d?\]: 16 pts gote isn't that interesting
LoneStar [3d\]: yeh
LoneStar [3d\]: n9 was a must
LoneStar [3d\]: i red the liberty wrong
]
;W[hp]C[LoneStar [3d\]: cannot get out
LoneStar [3d\]: but this is ko
ob2: w plays safe again to win
LoneStar [3d\]: iwould rea\\ather h1
]
;B[ip]C[LoneStar [3d\]: h2
]
;W[hr]C[ob2: nice
]
;B[mq]C[LoneStar [3d\]: hmm sorry
ob2: m3 then game over
YZ1509 [4d\]: and on this counter black had all hope bestowed
LoneStar [3d\]: maybe h4 , h2 combination is better than just h2
HKA [3d?\]: doesnt seem likely
HKA [3d?\]: I mean, you said h2
LoneStar [3d\]: with j6 gone
k81 [3d\]: He also red the liberty wrong so...
LoneStar [3d\]: its this a\\\\ piece of cake for w
LoneStar [3d\]: itsnt*
YZ1509 [4d\]: black had seen this move alot earlier, and he uses it to keep the r3 corner alive
YZ1509 [4d\]: but the damage is done already by white capturing the j7 stones
battery [1d?\]: w saw this move yet earlier, that's why he played s5
guest2: n3 might leave ko to save j4 stones also
LoneStar [3d\]: i dont see any probem for b with h3 cut
]
;W[lq]
;B[mr]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes black ens gote to safe r3 it sems while all white stones are already dafe
LoneStar [3d\]: o2
guest2: b can extend m2 then throw in l4
LoneStar [3d\]: dont be a chicken like a 7k even if u r winning big
LoneStar [3d\]: cuz this isnt hard!
HKA [3d?\]: there is an argument that this game is important
]
;W[iq]
;B[lr]C[LoneStar [3d\]: uh
LoneStar [3d\]: dame
LoneStar [3d\]: but dude u r 7d
LoneStar [3d\]: man
battery [1d?\]: he wants sente
LoneStar [3d\]: so nervous !
ob2: l2 is fine
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes white has sente now
kaworu [2k\]: whats the time on the players?
smile23 [3k\]: can anyone see why white played j3 instead of o2?
HKA [3d?\]: scribe cannot see comments
LoneStar [3d\]: what is w thinking
kaworu [2k\]: oh thanks hka 
LoneStar [3d\]: afraid of paying even l2??
LoneStar [3d\]: playing*
guest2: if white plays o2 then white would still need another move to completely eliminate the aji
LoneStar [3d\]: \\if thats the case it wi shock me
LoneStar [3d\]: will
YZ1509 [4d\]: how about b5?
guest2: so white chose to play the aji eliminating move first, then o2 later in sente against the black corner
]
;W[ii]C[USGO5 [-\]: Aaron has almost 20 mins main time left and Eric almost 30 mins
battery [1d?\]: w is figuring out how to attack n9
guest2: but b took the reverse sente at m2
LoneStar [3d\]: uh
ob2: yes white can play o2, looks like white has a bigger plan to get sente
]
;B[cg]C[LoneStar [3d\]: maybe its sente anytime but 
LoneStar [3d\]: its just a bit disturbing
LoneStar [3d\]: wow
LoneStar [3d\]: c13 is maybe some deesperation try
]
;W[dg]C[LoneStar [3d\]: b two weak groups
]
;B[ch]C[LoneStar [3d\]: p14 and n8
LoneStar [3d\]: with w j11 , no defence around m12
LoneStar [3d\]: its a statement , i am losing anywy so i take a risk
]
;W[cj]C[LoneStar [3d\]: oh i overlooked q9 aji tho
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes black checks the aji in despair
smile23 [3k\]: dont forget f8 group... its also weak
LoneStar [3d\]: anyways quite hard for b to take care of all weak stones
LoneStar [3d\]: sure
]
;B[dh]C[critter [1k\]: thank, i forgot that
]
;W[eh]
;B[df]
;W[eg]C[k81 [3d\]: and j8 stones look really weak...
LoneStar [3d\]: b thought if he cant kill any and just jumping towa\\rd centre wi result in easy loss
ob2: G12 will seal black in
]
;B[cf]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: those are plain dead due to h4 h2 tesuji
]
;W[ef]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: white deliberatly didn't go for the lowerright corner, but secured the centre, especially those g7 stones
]
;B[ee]C[ob2: b15 seems kill b
MyoR: there is a web page with the win/loss of this tournament?
guest2: yes
ob2: since d16 sente
]
;W[bb]
;B[be]C[LoneStar [3d\]: this game is certainly more familiar with those played by KGS famous than those games btween LSD nd KJ
]
;W[ca]
;B[db]C[USGO5 [-\]: updated results and game records can be found on the AGA website: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2015
MyoR: thanks a lot
YZ1509 [4d\]: g14?
]
;W[bd]C[LoneStar [3d\]: W will c7
LoneStar [3d\]: later
YZ1509 [4d\]: ah b16 still threatens to make life
]
;B[ad]C[LoneStar [3d\]: to attack f11
YZ1509 [4d\]: f10 is dead
LoneStar [3d\]: w g14 is not efficient
]
;W[bh]
;B[bg]C[LoneStar [3d\]: b has c7 to try saave with ko 
LoneStar [3d\]: this w will c7 sente 1st
YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah that's why i was lloking at w b5
YZ1509 [4d\]: but white still has b5 in case black would suberi
LoneStar [3d\]: but b winning ko means w e14 in dnger
YZ1509 [4d\]: and b5 wasn't sente to the lowerleft according to my reading
LoneStar [3d\]: danger
]
;W[gg]C[LoneStar [3d\]: this i think w will c7 first and enclose from coutside
LoneStar [3d\]: thus*
LoneStar [3d\]: oh!
LoneStar [3d\]: sorry dudes
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes elepahnt protected by two infantery on h9 and j9
LoneStar [3d\]: hmm
Nightwind [1d\]: w wants to trade the corner for c9, but that means b loses the game
ob2: w has enough cash, even b c7 ko run away
ob2: w b10 is sente
YZ1509 [4d\]: so just kodate around h12 for black
LoneStar [3d\]: b has no choice but c7 now
LoneStar [3d\]: maybe  w pln is not bd
LoneStar [3d\]: plan
YZ1509 [4d\]: on c7 w b5 and black hasn't got the ko
ob2: c7 will hurt LL b corner
LoneStar [3d\]: but theres no other option
mooooo [3k\]: b6 instead maybe?
YZ1509 [4d\]: no b6 fails on b5 too
LoneStar [3d\]: resign or take it!!
]
;B[gp]C[LoneStar [3d\]: hmm
YZ1509 [4d\]: so black makes g2 absolutely sente first
ob2: g3
HKA [3d?\]: I assumed white would g2 here
ob2: g5 better
]
;W[gq]C[HKA [3d?\]: I can get on board with g5
YZ1509 [4d\]: b6 b5 c5 b7 c6 c7 d7 is the keypattern
HKA [3d?\]: so much for that
ob2: no ko here
LoneStar [3d\]: dudes when u r not sure which move is the best its not a terribe idea that you stick with conventional ideas
]
;B[en]C[MyoR: don't know how it feels to play a game for the pro title, so... 
]
;W[em]
;B[co]C[LoneStar [3d\]: just dont panic 
HKA [3d?\]: and always call people dudes
MyoR: weel, i panic in kyu games :P
LoneStar [3d\]: think of urself as a millionaire , dont need much money
smile23 [3k\]: dont panik is for hitchhikers ;)
YZ1509 [4d\]: millionaires are more cash dependant than beggars
]
;W[cn]
;B[do]C[LoneStar [3d\]: or , then billionire
LoneStar [3d\]: e5
YZ1509 [4d\]: they are so cashdependant that they even run for president to protect their interests
]
;W[hp]
;B[bn]
;W[eo]
;B[hq]C[lost track of the moves from here]
;W[bo]
;B[bm]
;W[dm]
;B[gr]
;W[go]
;B[hp]
;W[hn]
;B[cm]
;W[dl]
;B[hh]
;W[jg]
;B[hg]C[moves correct from here]
;W[hf]
;B[gf]
;W[ge]
;B[if]
;W[he]C[HKA [3d?\]: sigh
]
;B[jh]
;W[gh]
;B[hi]C[USGO4 [-\]: this is now the board position
]
;W[gi]C[feda [5d\]: l2 a big mutual sente
]
;B[gd]C[agakenny [3d\]: l2 is not b sente
elguapo [-\]: there was probably a ko fight at the bottom I missed
agakenny [3d\]: w can give up 3 stones
critter [1k\]: i often give up 3 stones
agakenny [3d\]: b will gote get 3 stones again
]
;W[mi]
;B[ji]
;W[pf]
;B[pg]C[feda [5d\]: if w doesn't respond to l2, then sequence after l4 is many points for b
]
;W[kr]C[agakenny [3d\]: w hears it
]
;B[nr]C[feda [5d\]: neither side play n17 
feda [5d\]: ?
agakenny [3d\]: u r right feda
]
;W[bi]C[agakenny [3d\]: w tries to finish it
feda [5d\]: both maybe think they are leading
agakenny [3d\]: all sente moves
]
;B[ce]
;W[of]C[agakenny [3d\]: now n17 belongs to w
]
;B[ri]
;W[rj]
;B[rg]C[feda [5d\]: m15 now ?
feda [5d\]: maybe j18
]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]C[USGO4 [-\]: White is in byo yomi.
]
;W[cl]
;B[bl]
;W[bk]
;B[ak]
;W[dk]
;B[io]
;W[ir]
;B[dq]
;W[fn]
;B[ij]
;W[hj]
;B[ih]
;W[jb]
;B[ld]C[feda [5d\]: w play very solid and like leading last 50+ moves
]
;W[kd]
;B[le]C[feda [5d\]: o10 o11 q10 is a small weakness for w
]
;W[lc]C[feda [5d\]: b can start a ko but needs to have enormous ko threat 
]
;B[ib]C[agakenny [3d\]: no threat fo o10
feda [5d\]: l4 and k5 
]
;W[hd]C[agakenny [3d\]: w will atari n10
]
;B[hc]C[feda [5d\]: oh nevermind, it is not ko
feda [5d\]: i read wrong
]
;W[re]C[michi2009 [5d\]: big
]
;B[mg]C[michi2009 [5d\]: s15
dogbert [3d\]: there is a ko at O10 but that kind of suicidal
michi2009 [5d\]: no ko
dogbert [3d\]: right
]
;W[nf]C[dogbert [3d\]: w could N10
michi2009 [5d\]: yup
agakenny [3d\]: b will take q8 2 stones instead
michi2009 [5d\]: no
agakenny [3d\]: i mean b play at q9
]
;B[mh]C[michi2009 [5d\]: oh, okay
]
;W[li]
;B[pk]
;W[pj]
;B[ok]C[critter [1k\]: 4 pts gote, endgame wrapping up
PAPANINJA [4k\]: game so close
agakenny [3d\]: t4 is big
]
;W[md]
;B[fe]
;W[ff]
;B[ie]C[HKA [3d?\]: white has close to 80 points with komi
critter [1k\]: game not that close
]
;W[me]
;B[id]C[HKA [3d?\]: exactly
]
;W[gf]
;B[lf]C[agakenny [3d\]: t4 now
HKA [3d?\]: seems like white leads on the board
feda [5d\]: t10 a good move here
kaworu [2k\]: i would think w is leading also 
USGO4 [-\]: White is in sudden death
]
;W[ke]C[critter [1k\]: sorry, it is that close
critter [1k\]: miscounted
HKA [3d?\]: jeez Eric
Werfeus [5d\]: w+5
]
;B[rf]C[kecleon [2d\]: within around 2 on the board, komi is w's win
agakenny [3d\]: w+9.5
Vinicius [1d\]: b will win
Vinicius [1d\]: !
]
;W[aj]
;B[jc]
;W[kb]
;B[hs]C[Genghis [2k\]: hmm, I counted and it is very close, 60 something to 60 something
HKA [3d?\]: aga kenny has my count
epic [5k\]: komi 7.5
critter [1k\]: i counted closer to 4
]
;W[al]
;B[bp]C[kecleon [2d\]: genghis: huh? it's like 76-78 on the board
]
;W[si]
;B[sh]
;W[sj]C[feda [5d\]: w win a lot
]
;B[js]C[Genghis [2k\]: just counted the main easily counted territory
agakenny [3d\]: now t3 is sente hane
kecleon [2d\]: ah, but in a close game the small hard stuff is important, too :)
]
;W[ks]C[Genghis [2k\]: yeah, but stuff like what is happening on the bottom makes that very hard ^^
kecleon [2d\]: haha yeah I have no idea what b is gaining from this
]
;B[kp]
;W[kq]
;B[jo]
;W[kp]
;B[is]
;W[hl]
;B[ls]C[HKA [3d?\]: mabye a point
]
;W[hm]C[HKA [3d?\]: white can t3 now
]
;B[qi]
;W[sq]C[feda [5d\]: Score Estimator is amazing
kecleon [2d\]: I would have said that was bigger than k1 
]
;B[sr]
;W[sp]
;B[rr]
;W[kf]
;B[kg]
;W[jf]C[Werfeus [5d\]: ok.. w + 15
HKA [3d?\]: white is gaining points
]
;B[ja]
;W[ka]
;B[ia]C[critter [1k\]: b ran out of gas
]
;W[ag]
;B[af]
;W[ah]C[critter [1k\]: b cannot use the dark side any more
]
;B[se]
;W[sd]
;B[sf]
;W[ki]C[kaworu [2k\]: a17 wont work with out d11 first 
]
;B[dd]C[lost track of the moves from here...]
;W[nj]
;B[ng]C[HKA [3d?\]: here is to hoping the scribe has lost the thread....
HKA [3d?\]: long time...
HKA [3d?\]: between moves....
USGO4 [-\]: Now counting
HKA [3d?\]: absurd to lose now....
HKA [3d?\]: whoosh
kaworu [2k\]: ah 
Herod [-\]: lots of dame still to fill
HKA [3d?\]: I suspect they did
HKA [3d?\]: just too fast for the scribe
USGO4 [-\]: White wins by 14.5
HKA [3d?\]: thanks USGO, 
USGO4 [-\]: Thank you for watching.  See you tomorrow.
Alife361 [5k?\]: ty
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