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GN[AGA Pro Qualification Tournament Round 4: Ben Lockhart 7d (W) vs Manuel Velasco 5d (B)]PW[Ben Lockhart]PB[Manuel Velasco]WR[7d]BR[5d]DT[2016-01-04]EV[AGA Pro Qualification Tournament]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Garlock]RE[W+4.50]
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;W[cn]C[H16 [3d\]: hi, are there results and standing/tournament bracket anywhere?
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;B[be]
;W[bc]C[NeoNemesis [-\]: here: 
NeoNemesis [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2015
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;W[jd]C[H16 [3d\]: thx
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;W[gp]C[USGO5 [-\]: we'll get it updated soon
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;B[ep]
;W[eo]
;B[cp]
;W[do]
;B[bo]
;W[ej]C[sdf: bill lin doesn't play this year?
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;B[fh]C[kmr [2d\]: looks like he didnt play
Baileys [3k\]: Hello everyone. Can somebody please tell me something about Ben Lockhart? Are there any information about him? I have never heard of him before, that is why I am asking. THanks in advance
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;W[cg]C[Woods [6d\]: I expected more from Ben
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;B[gc]C[sdf: Ben won the world division of samsung cup this year
Woods [6d\]: Against who?
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;W[fd]
;B[gd]
;W[ge]C[Scoby [5k\]: idk, but lost against Eric Lui in the final of the preliminaries
rsun [-\]: who's the favorite this year?
sdf: I bet on eric Lui
Woods [6d\]: Eric Lui for sure I think
rsun [-\]: how many 1ps do they need to promote one to 2p?
noi [8k?\]: it doesnt work that way, does it?
sdf: woods, ben beat ricky zhao in the finals
rsun [-\]: I mean they need some kind of pro tournament, but there are too few right now
Woods [6d\]: Who is ricky zhao?^^'
battery [1d?\]: their rank will depend on how many non-US/EU pros they beat ;)
battery [1d?\]: Andy is doing really well
Woods [6d\]: Andy Liu is far the strongest from all these aga pros no?
Woods [6d\]: I mean maybe like 1 stone stronger
battery [1d?\]: From results, yes. Gansheng isn't bad either.
Eggplant [2d\]: if they do this every year they are goign to run out of strong people really quick
Warfreak2 [-\]: gooooo ben
sdf: Ryan Li also not bad
MMXVI [3k\]: just train up some more
Woods [6d\]: But how long they will make new pros?
Falcon89 [5k\]: it is what those 1p do
Warfreak2 [-\]: about 1.8 metres
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;W[eb]C[battery [1d?\]: if they start raking in sponsors so they can pay wages and prize money, they'll have enough strong amateurs in about 10 years.
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;B[db]C[sdf: yeah like Mark Lee..
battery [1d?\]: Who is Korean and not eligible.
Eggplant [2d\]: wow thats creative
Woods [6d\]: Its already feels like the aga pro title started to inflated
battery [1d?\]: When Korea started, JP pros dominated them, too.
battery [1d?\]: It just takes a while.
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;W[ff]
;B[hb]C[Woods [6d\]: It took like 50 years
noi [8k?\]: 50 years long time nowadays but a drop in the bucket in the history of go
Eggplant [2d\]: over the life of go 50 years isn't that much.
Eggplant [2d\]: :)
Eggplant [2d\]: didnt see your comment
Woods [6d\]: Yeah,but take a look at the training there
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;W[fg]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: i imagine the US can sustain a pro a year for a while to come
noi [8k?\]: finally beat 2d at something ;-)
battery [1d?\]: They had trouble getting strong players to teach them. NA shouldn't have any trouble nowadays.
battery [1d?\]: All that's lacking is economic incentive.
Woods [6d\]: Korea had trouble?Japan helped them out a lot
noi [8k?\]: and a wider culture of playing, to attract more players
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;B[he]
;W[hd]C[Woods [6d\]: I think AGA should say stop for like 5-10 years making new pros
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;B[gf]C[sdf: not enough us native players now. that's what they really need.
Warfreak2 [-\]: in 10 years skynet will have taken over anyway
noi [8k?\]: my understanding is that the governing board didn't have to promote anyone if they thought the pool was too weak
mafutrct [2d?\]: they could just let the candidates play against the established pros, no?
rsun [-\]: yes, that's usually how rank promotion works
Eggplant [2d\]: I was surprised that Eric lost to Sarah. 
Woods [6d\]: If they continue like this,the pro title will have no value at all
mafutrct [2d?\]: win 50% against them plus top score against other candidates = you're in.
Eggplant [2d\]: it was by the closest margin too.
battery [1d?\]: He fumbled.
Eggplant [2d\]: like when Choi jung beat Choi cheol han
noi [8k?\]: it seems that unless you are top flight pro there is little value in certificate anyway. don't most pro have to mow lawns to make ends meet?
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;W[fe]C[Eggplant [2d\]: NO in korea they teach.
mafutrct [2d?\]: i thought they were teaching amateurs
lalika: who is Sarah?
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;B[ie]C[rsun [-\]: a teaching game can cost $50
Eggplant [2d\]: I might have gotten the name wrong just a sec
Eggplant [2d\]: sarah yu 6d
Eggplant [2d\]: from canada
noi [8k?\]: heck going on a date to the movies can cost at least that much
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;W[ic]C[alienist [5k\]: more
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;B[hc]C[rsun [-\]: if you just play 4 teaching games a day, you make $6000 a month 
lalika: "just"
noi [8k?\]: that's what they told me when they tried to sell me on amway...
lalika: lol
battery [1d?\]: and with your schedule of 10 hours study, 4 teaching games... you have an amazing 6-8 hours for sleep.
Eggplant [2d\]: Which is like 500 times more than you make with PhD as an adjunct proffessor
rsun [-\]: also public lecture fees and royalties for publications
swedish1k [7d\]: If you work as a teaching pro u dont study 10 hours a day
lalika: b ahead?
Eggplant [2d\]: those teaching pros in korea dont study like htat they runs schools
sdf: $6000 a month?
Warfreak2 [-\]: rsun, where are you going to find 4 students per day at $50/hr?
rsun [-\]: and if you get to play in tournaments like the A league you earn some money every game you play regardless of the result
noi [8k?\]: friend just went to cuba. said an MD made $45 usd a week, but their tour guide made around $2000 a week
swedish1k [7d\]: Chinese A league..?
sdf: you can't both teach and be active in touranments
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;W[mc]C[battery [1d?\]: That's probably why Lee Sedol has a dojang...
swedish1k [7d\]: Teaching pros might be able to play c league not a league 
noi [8k?\]: when is final sedol - jie game?
rsun [-\]: soon
sdf: in 2 hours
noi [8k?\]: thanks
battery [1d?\]: 2 and 5
lalika: w all eggs in one basket now
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;B[mb]C[Eggplant [2d\]: yes manuel doing surprisingly well.
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;B[nb]C[JeansebL [1d?\]: manuel beat Ben recently
Eggplant [2d\]: cool
JeansebL [1d?\]: the rank is not correct
Eggplant [2d\]: ah
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;W[ig]C[Eggplant [2d\]: Did manuel go to korea or something?
JeansebL [1d?\]: He's 8-9d tygem, been studying in korea for a while
Eggplant [2d\]: Ah i see
swedish1k [7d\]: Isnt he 4d kgs?
JeansebL [1d?\]: He came back for this, and going back to korea after, no matter what the result is
swedish1k [7d\]: Goprince i think
Eggplant [2d\]: probably old rank swede
feda [5d\]: b k14
JeansebL [1d?\]: he does have a 4d account, to blizt at night or when he's drunk :p
sdf: he is goprince
lalika: jeanseb: how very asian of him LOL
sdf: yeah 4d kgs
lalika: that's how they usually do it with western tourneys
Eggplant [2d\]: oh is he. I played him last year in the league.
Eggplant [2d\]: maybe
Woods [6d\]: That guy said he can give me 2 stone easily
Woods [6d\]: Must be strong
battery [1d?\]: giving two stones is one way to resign
battery [1d?\]: maybe that's what he meant
mafutrct [2d?\]: Manuel is goprince? Isn't that some rude guy?
lalika: is he mexican?
sdf: yes Manuel is goprince
Jesus3 [1k?\]: Canadian
Woods [6d\]: Well he got some ego
battery [1d?\]: getting beat left and right though
lalika: i'd say b ahead
lalika: w's loose centre moyo is laughable
swedish1k [7d\]: I think i gave him 3 stones a couple of times but maybe he was drunk:)
swedish1k [7d\]: And improved in korea after
noi [8k?\]: game list suggests solid 4d-5d
JeansebL [1d?\]: yeah he improved a lot recently
battery [1d?\]: that's not solid
JeansebL [1d?\]: I'd say he's 8d tygem solid
Woods [6d\]: I played a two stone game with him two weeks ago(I was white) was pretty much 50-50
sdf: he lost to a 3d just 2 weeks ago. improved a lot? lol
noi [8k?\]: plays a lot against many opponents and graph says 4d, falling from 5d. all recent
swedish1k [7d\]: Well
swedish1k [7d\]: He will play many games in this tourney so lets see
JeansebL [1d?\]: yes, we don't all play the same way on kgs :)
lwhite [4d\]: he like many canadian young kids
lwhite [4d\]: no formal go training 
Woods [6d\]: But I'm surprised about Ben performance,I thought he's super strong
Warfreak2 [-\]: he is!
lwhite [4d\]: warfreak!!!!
swedish1k [7d\]: I dont think he is 7d europe level yet
lwhite [4d\]: you must be really sour
lwhite [4d\]: hehe
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;B[jc]C[swedish1k [7d\]: Andy etc are stronger than european pros, probably
sdf: realy?
Woods [6d\]: Andy for sure,the rest I dont know
swedish1k [7d\]: Yeah think so
swedish1k [7d\]: Crazywind
swedish1k [7d\]: Is also rly strong
sdf: I thought close, both 8d kgs
sdf: not 9d anyway
croc [-\]: who did Manuel play last round and what's the result
lalika: yeah where's the tourney spider?
Woods [6d\]: Palko maybe same level?(bit weaker than Andy)
lwhite [4d\]: is this 2nd round of the day?
swedish1k [7d\]: Maybe
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;W[jf]C[kmr [2d\]: yes, 4th round 2nd day as far as i know
Warfreak2 [-\]: lwhite [4d\]: you must be really sour
Warfreak2 [-\]: why?
Woods [6d\]: Ali I rarely see to play
Warfreak2 [-\]: i am as sweet and fluffy as i always am
Woods [6d\]: How is he doing?
Warfreak2 [-\]: i am like candy floss
lwhite [4d\]: lol i am thinking you are warhead candy
sdf: ilya will beat them all one day
sdf: i have hope on him
swedish1k [7d\]: Hm
JeansebL [1d?\]: you can find the results and kifu here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12CadQC8Cioxv_4YPFgiWHk2xqQNbTNLfVC1xd9qtmI4/edit#gid=0
swedish1k [7d\]: Ali in china now so hopefully he can still improve
kmr [2d\]: if Andy is really Sweetrip, then he is as stable KGS 8d as is Roln and Cheater so i think they are level, or very close.
mafutrct [2d?\]: i've overheard a top euro player say roln won't become stronger until he stops fighting too much :)
Warfreak2 [-\]: never stop fighting
swedish1k [7d\]: But ilya is nr 1 europe player so who can judge :)
Warfreak2 [-\]: up by 40 points? start that ko anyway!
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;B[kp]C[croc [-\]: so much appreaciated JeanSebl
Woods [6d\]: Ilya is a real troll,playing for the public:)
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;W[cb]C[kmr [2d\]: who is top eu player?
swedish1k [7d\]: Fan Hui then Ilya
kmr [2d\]: top=number one?
sdf: ilya's games are always interesting
sdf: fight fight fight
mafutrct [2d?\]: kmr talking to me?
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;B[ol]
;W[rm]C[kmr [2d\]: yeah i was wondering who said that
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;B[pj]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: /pm
Woods [6d\]: Fredda do you play in baden-baden?
croc [-\]: w seeams not bad
swedish1k [7d\]: P8 look rly ajikeshi
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;W[jo]C[swedish1k [7d\]: Value of q10 doesnt look that big
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;B[ld]C[Woods [6d\]: Fix some problem for white
battery [1d?\]: Hwang In-seong #1, Dai Junfu #2, Ilja Shikshin #3, Oh Chi-Min #4, Fan Hui #5
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;W[kc]
;B[ib]C[Woods [6d\]: m16 also weird
Woods [6d\]: Could just cut later no?
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;W[kd]C[JeansebL [1d?\]: A funny piece of trivia: Both Ben and Manuel have a pro girlfriend from korea ^^
greenbean [2d?\]: XD
kmr [2d\]: hard to count 4 of them, cuz by eu player we means eu born, not with eu passport rather
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;B[hg]C[greenbean [2d?\]: Best girlfriends play Go
SzemingLi [2d\]: the same one?
kmr [2d\]: lol
sdf: korean girls change their faces too much
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;W[hh]C[JeansebL [1d?\]: obviously not the same one ^^
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;B[ih]
;W[jh]
;B[ii]
;W[gg]
;B[hf]C[greenbean [2d?\]: How to become truely strong marry into it.
kmr [2d\]: pics or it didnt happend
mafutrct [2d?\]: K11, no?
swedish1k [7d\]: Why did white save top stones
swedish1k [7d\]: So small
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;W[ji]
;B[ij]C[swedish1k [7d\]: Should have let some moyo move and protect this aji
alienist [5k\]: some guys pretty thick
swedish1k [7d\]: Let - played
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;B[ik]
;W[hi]C[JeansebL [1d?\]: ahah kmr, you can find many pics on facebook, I'll let you do your own research ^^
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;B[jl]C[noi [8k?\]: L16 has some issues
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;W[ll]C[SzemingLi [2d\]: why k8 instead on k9?
kmr [2d\]: i dont use facebook, dont want to allow Zuckerberg to sold my private infos to corporations ;)
JeansebL [1d?\]: too bad for you then :p
swedish1k [7d\]: Manuel has stronger gf then
JeansebL [1d?\]: he does :p
swedish1k [7d\]: So does that mean he will lose or win?
greenbean [2d?\]: Lose 
greenbean [2d?\]: If she beats him up all the time he is used to being timid
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;B[gj]C[swedish1k [7d\]: My korean gf is 30k
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;W[fi]C[JeansebL [1d?\]: I still think ben is a bit stronger than him, but the difference is less than 1 stone
swedish1k [7d\]: So i should beat both of them?
greenbean [2d?\]: x)
swedish1k [7d\]: L7 look fine
lwhite [4d\]: i feel harder for white to play than black
feda [5d\]: i think w easier 
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;B[km]
;W[of]C[swedish1k [7d\]: W had his chance to tenuki m16
swedish1k [7d\]: Now is complicated
chiron [?\]: which is why k8 and not k9
lwhite [4d\]: Manuel have lots of cash
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;B[pe]C[swedish1k [7d\]: Around 60
lwhite [4d\]: issue is white need to settle his group to
lwhite [4d\]: too
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;W[ko]
;B[lm]C[swedish1k [7d\]: W has about 35 and potential
swedish1k [7d\]: B might be good
lwhite [4d\]: ya as long as black don't loose much in this fight
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;W[le]C[greenbean [2d?\]: if he studys in korea I hope he is good
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;B[me]C[swedish1k [7d\]: Both does
lwhite [4d\]: all due to trying to save 15 points
greenbean [2d?\]: or else he was to busy finding a korean girlfriend
noi [8k?\]: i count b closer to 75+
swedish1k [7d\]: Wow
SzemingLi [2d\]: korean girlfriend worth more than korean dan ranking
swedish1k [7d\]: I hope you can count such scores for me also in my games =)
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;W[mm]C[greenbean [2d?\]: Cost about the same 
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;B[ml]C[JeansebL [1d?\]: I don't see how W can win anymore
SzemingLi [2d\]: but girlfriend more useful
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;W[lk]C[greenbean [2d?\]: black is only up by like 3 
greenbean [2d?\]: not sure what eveyone is freaking out about
SzemingLi [2d\]: seems like b not out of the woods yet
Woods [6d\]: hey
lwhite [4d\]: lol
lwhite [4d\]: why not?
swedish1k [7d\]: Lol
swedish1k [7d\]: N6 and m5
lwhite [4d\]: N6 then M5 
chiron [?\]: everyone is freaking out becuse of the chinese stock market crash
lwhite [4d\]: it's easy settlement
Warfreak2 [-\]: eh
swedish1k [7d\]: Poor australia :*
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;B[kg]C[swedish1k [7d\]: Rip export
Woods [6d\]: m13?
greenbean [2d?\]: painful
swedish1k [7d\]: Y m13 is first feeling
swedish1k [7d\]: A
feda [5d\]: i would m13 too in blitz game
feda [5d\]: seems good
greenbean [2d?\]: *cough cough
chiron [?\]: and in this game?
lwhite [4d\]: m13 seems reasonable black cannot escape
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;W[lg]C[sdf: here you go
igaz [?\]: )
swedish1k [7d\]: Any way to make b6 sente for w?
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;B[mn]
;W[nm]
;B[lo]C[sdf: n14, w winning
USGO5 [-\]: updated results and game records can be found on the AGA website: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2015
bongo [2k\]: i don't believe u sdf
Alife361 [5k?\]: tx USGO5
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;W[nn]C[sdf: b m10 is severe
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;B[no]
;W[pi]
;B[qi]
;W[pk]
;B[oj]C[Woods [6d\]: p11 all in?
Woods [6d\]: or p9 enough?
lwhite [4d\]: feels like P11 is all in
sdf: P11 not work, b has n13
sdf: w p11, b o11, w p12, b p9 then n13
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;W[oi]C[Woods [6d\]: Ben disagree
sdf: w overplay
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;B[ni]
;W[oh]C[bongo [2k\]: sdf is ke jie
sdf: p9, then n13, what w's next move?
swedish1k [7d\]: O12
swedish1k [7d\]: But
sdf: then b m14
swedish1k [7d\]: Big group in problem?
swedish1k [7d\]: Your seq look good
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;B[mg]C[feda [5d\]: n13 
feda [5d\]: yes
feda [5d\]: o12 maybe good enough for w
feda [5d\]: w mess up somewhere
feda [5d\]: q9 p10 p11 sequence was the bad part
feda [5d\]: instead of q9, just p11 is very safe
JeansebL [1d?\]: they have connection problems again?
noi [8k?\]: yes
JeansebL [1d?\]: it's wierd how only this board has problems...
lwhite [4d\]: looks like hard time for white lol
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;W[mf]
;B[nf]
;W[lf]
;B[ng]
;W[ne]
;B[nd]
;W[nh]
;B[mh]
;W[nj]
;B[ok]
;W[mi]
;B[qk]
;W[rk]
;B[rj]
;W[kr]C[PAPANINJA [4k\]: white won't have enough territory will he?
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;B[jp]C[sdf: b winning
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;W[ip]C[Song [4d\]: aigoo this looks like interesting game
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;B[mk]C[sdf: but why they ignore m12?
lwhite [4d\]: time to give up
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;W[lh]C[lwhite [4d\]: P5 is ko?
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;B[sk]
;W[sl]
;B[rl]C[michi2009 [5d\]: c3?
sdf: n4
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;W[oo]C[michi2009 [5d\]: not a good threat
michi2009 [5d\]: but b has no threat
lwhite [4d\]: well
lwhite [4d\]: if black capture L2 stone
lwhite [4d\]: maybe good
lwhite [4d\]: but i didn't count so don't quote me on it lol
Link [?\]: Too late
Link [?\]: I already quoted you in my Go blog D:
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;B[np]
;W[rk]C[lwhite [4d\]: why would you quote a nobody
Link [?\]: You aren't a no body to me
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;B[jr]
;W[sj]
;B[io]
;W[sh]C[Muttley [2k\]: I ain't got no body
Muttley [2k\]: keep calm and eat chocolate.
Jesus3 [1k?\]: Isn't p5 sente?
FGo [3k\]: no body? although it is hard to check, I believe I am not reading computational output from random kibitz helper threads
]
;B[rf]C[Muttley [2k\]: true dat
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;W[cq]
;B[bq]
;W[jq]
;B[kq]
;W[ir]
;B[iq]
;W[cr]C[Takimme [1k\]: ignore
Muttley [2k\]: what?
Muttley [2k\]: no, d3
michi2009 [5d\]: counting
Muttley [2k\]: can't ignore that
FGo [3k\]: living a life in ignorance
michi2009 [5d\]: why not?
Muttley [2k\]: d3 white is huge
]
;B[dq]
;W[jq]
;B[js]C[Muttley [2k\]: m2 is the real hardcore version now
Muttley [2k\]: that's what w should play imho
kls: for sure
michi2009 [5d\]: no
Muttley [2k\]: mici, please give in to your inner kyu
michi2009 [5d\]: where is the threat
Muttley [2k\]: s11
Muttley [2k\]: where is b's threat?
michi2009 [5d\]: s11 not a threat
Muttley [2k\]: 23 point threat
Muttley [2k\]: halve it for ko
michi2009 [5d\]: much less
FGo [3k\]: I actually do not understand why b was not taking at h4
michi2009 [5d\]: he likes this better
Muttley [2k\]: I thought b was winning anyway
Takimme [1k\]: FGo probably it is next step
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;W[br]
;B[ar]
;W[lr]
;B[iq]C[Takimme [1k\]: hehe
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;W[co]C[Muttley [2k\]: trollolol
michi2009 [5d\]: ignore
Takimme [1k\]: w create the threats )
Muttley [2k\]: nooooo
]
;B[hp]
;W[bp]C[Muttley [2k\]: yesssss
Takimme [1k\]: time to ignore
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;B[gq]
;W[ho]C[JeansebL [1d?\]: b actually gained in the ko :p
FGo [3k\]: he did, right?
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;B[ip]C[Muttley [2k\]: how depressing
JeansebL [1d?\]: like, alot :p
michi2009 [5d\]: because m2 bad decision
Takimme [1k\]: p15 biggest now?
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;W[oe]
;B[ca]
;W[ab]C[michi2009 [5d\]: f8
Takimme [1k\]: i see =)
kls: h6?
nero [1k\]: f8
lalika: b+r
croc [-\]: close?
lwhite [4d\]: F8 looks really big
]
;B[fo]
;W[fn]C[lwhite [4d\]: this is big too lol
]
;B[go]C[lalika: w got crushed here
]
;W[fl]
;B[ro]
;W[sf]
;B[se]
;W[sg]
;B[re]
;W[ri]
;B[qj]C[Seirei [3k\]: I think b win.
]
;W[hm]C[Takimme [1k\]: wow
Takimme [1k\]: q5 
Takimme [1k\]: ?
feda [5d\]: b endgame has not been good
lwhite [4d\]: i thought black would play H8
]
;B[gl]
;W[gm]
;B[fk]
;W[ek]C[lwhite [4d\]: lol a little too late
Seirei [3k\]: Oh gods... q5  now tesuji
]
;B[ba]C[Takimme [1k\]: q5 s6 
Warfreak2 [-\]: q5 q6 
Takimme [1k\]: b misscounted
Seirei [3k\]: ....
]
;W[dc]C[Takimme [1k\]: probably )
]
;B[ea]C[richilue [4k\]: i thought b would play G7 before w played H7
lalika: q5 is 5 points in gote
USGO1 [-\]: w has 5m left
lalika: pretty big
flatwhite [3k\]: it says white is ahead 10 points
Nightwind [1d\]: no way 10 points
Warfreak2 [-\]: w is one ben ahead
Seirei [3k\]: Oh. I see here 3 ponnukis white. Where my 90 points!?
dropstone [5k?\]: b is one ock short
]
;W[im]
;B[jm]
;W[jb]
;B[ic]C[michi2009 [5d\]: yeah, w win
]
;W[in]
;B[jn]C[michi2009 [5d\]: about even on board
]
;W[mj]C[michi2009 [5d\]: oh, more than that, w wins big
lwhite [4d\]: play Q5 have 3 point end game
]
;B[ja]
;W[kb]
;B[kk]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: 3 points?
]
;W[kj]
;B[kl]
;W[lj]
;B[od]
;W[og]
;B[gi]
;W[gh]C[richilue [4k\]: e8
lalika: d1
michi2009 [5d\]: w probaby leading a little on board
lalika: probably not
Growl3r [6k\]: W small lead
Takimme [1k\]: j14 =)
]
;B[op]
;W[po]
;B[om]
;W[on]
;B[sn]
;W[rn]C[JeansebL [1d?\]: if black loses, f5 is probably losing move...
]
;B[so]
;W[sm]
;B[bs]
;W[cs]
;B[ds]
;W[aq]C[richilue [4k\]: g8 1 pt in sente
]
;B[hn]
;W[ma]
;B[na]
;W[ka]
;B[ia]C[michi2009 [5d\]: g8 no point
]
;W[hl]
;B[gk]
;W[if]C[Takimme [1k\]: lol
richilue [4k\]: how is that?
lalika: j14,,,
]
;B[gn]C[Takimme [1k\]: j14 was b move
]
;W[la]C[JeansebL [1d?\]: yeah :(
JeansebL [1d?\]: terrible yose by black
michi2009 [5d\]: that's why he is a 5d, lol
lalika: b lost like 10 pts in the last 50 moves
JeansebL [1d?\]: he isn't :p
feda [5d\]: yes b lost in end game
feda [5d\]: but i think more disappointing by w to win on b's bad end game 
]
;B[jk]
;W[fm]
;B[eb]
;W[ed]
;B[da]
;W[sk]
;B[rh]
;W[si]
;B[rg]C[lwhite [4d\]: white ahead on board
]
;W[ac]
;B[aa]C[bleen [1d\]: disappointing to win?
kdbaby14 [7k\]: 2.5 pts
bleen [1d\]: how to do that :)
]
;W[hj]
;B[hk]
;W[pg]
;B[ph]
;W[nk]
;B[nl]
;W[fj]C[USGO1 [-\]: counting now
lwhite [4d\]: thank you USGO1
USGO1 [-\]: thanks for watching!
lalika: sad game for b
Takimme [1k\]: thanks
USGO1 [-\]: hope you enjoyed. 
lalika: b stronger than w, but that end game...
USGO1 [-\]: back tmw with round 5 at 9:30a pst
JeansebL [1d?\]: very simialr level
lwhite [4d\]: 4 point on the board  so 11.5?
lalika: yeah obviously, but b was leading the game
JeansebL [1d?\]: yes
lwhite [4d\]: black had nice middle game but end game mess up :)
lalika: the weird opening probably threw w off
lalika: missing j14... that's kyu level end game
Woods [6d\]: w had a good endgame,early midgame and endgame
Woods [6d\]: sorry
Woods [6d\]: opening
JeansebL [1d?\]: so what's the score?
Woods [6d\]: So,black chance was l17
USGO1 [-\]: w by 4
JeansebL [1d?\]: ok thanks
]
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