(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[4th AGA Pro Qualifier Round 2 Aaron Ye 7d vs Jeremy Chiu 6d]PW[Aaron Ye ]PB[Jeremy Chiu]WR[7d]BR[6d]DT[2016-01-03]EV[4th AGA Pro Qualifier]RO[2]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Garlock]RE[W+1.50]
;B[pd]
;W[dc]
;B[qp]
;W[dq]
;B[oq]
;W[qf]
;B[nc]
;W[qo]
;B[po]
;W[qn]
;B[rp]
;W[pj]
;B[do]
;W[gq]
;B[de]
;W[cg]
;B[cc]
;W[gc]
;B[cq]
;W[cr]
;B[dp]
;W[eq]
;B[br]
;W[bq]
;B[cp]
;W[ar]
;B[fp]
;W[fq]
;B[ck]
;W[cd]
;B[dd]
;W[ce]
;B[cf]
;W[bc]C[OddKibitz [2d\]: hello?
ludovico: hi! :)
nanotech [2k\]: ??
Huldioho [6k\]: grüß gott
]
;B[bf]
;W[cb]
;B[dg]
;W[pn]
;B[oo]C[clydesdale [3k\]: fat god?
]
;W[of]
;B[rd]C[elsky [2d\]: why fat?
clydesdale [3k\]: grus= gross
]
;W[ek]C[clydesdale [3k\]: *~*
elsky [2d\]: like big= fat? im not native
clydesdale [3k\]: i'm just messin, i don't know german
elsky [2d\]: np just asked to understand 
]
;B[ho]
;W[cj]C[k81 [1k?\]: It was simply a greeting
ludovico: "grüß gott!" is a formal "hello!"
Dom [6d\]: top left sequence is bad for w
]
;B[dj]
;W[dk]C[clydesdale [3k\]: ah- what is it's literal meening?
]
;B[ci]
;W[cl]
;B[bj]C[maproomad [-\]: great God
]
;W[bk]C[maproomad [-\]: or Allah Akbar
]
;B[cj]C[elsky [2d\]: used in southern Germany and Austria
elsky [2d\]: means more greeting god than "great"
badaji1 [1k\]: not great but greet god
maproomad [-\]: I see, ok
]
;W[dm]C[Huldioho [6k\]: Habediehre
Huldioho [6k\]: :D
nanotech [2k\]: now Jeremy already in trouble.....
Huldioho [6k\]: Habe die Ehre
]
;B[fn]C[critter [1k\]: ich bin einer go spieler
OddKibitz [2d\]: I suspect that W is unleashing a massive attack.
Huldioho [6k\]: sehr gut!
critter [1k\]: je tem go
Huldioho [6k\]: that kinda french i guess ;)
hfdtd [1d\]: H5 was maybe too slow.
nanotech [2k\]: No attack any more...it goes towards end already....
gogonuts [4d\]: w infringed on ke jie copy right on the right
Meatbun [6d?\]: looking good for white
Huldioho [6k\]: h5 was a mistake
Huldioho [6k\]: imho
First [1k\]: 1 wek group for w
gogonuts [4d\]: b almost out of it already
elsky [2d\]: really?
hfdtd [1d\]: Black could get the most out of H5 with a follow up at J3.
YZ1509 [4d\]: lot of work for chris today i see
hfdtd [1d\]: But we will se who plays first there.
Meatbun [6d?\]: I am tempt to play O7 as white
gogonuts [4d\]: hard to see how b will make more points on the board than w
Huldioho [6k\]: ignoring e5 was the problem
]
;W[gl]C[critter [1k\]: se wont tell you who will play first, se tells you the score (badly)
Meatbun [6d?\]: this is nice
Meatbun [6d?\]: black have hard timep play J3 cuz white will cut and fight
elsky [2d\]: if b destroys the right side terr of w, then it is even
gogonuts [4d\]: b wants to play J3, but that will leave a serious problem
]
;B[hm]C[hfdtd [1d\]: J7 seems a bit faster.
YZ1509 [4d\]: h5 and h7 sset up the right ikkentobi for j3
hfdtd [1d\]: I see.
elsky [2d\]: therefore w will play around it
hfdtd [1d\]: But after J7 there is a better attack with H9 on the white middle group.
]
;W[hl]C[elsky [2d\]: hmm
]
;B[il]C[nanotech [2k\]: now j3 nearly equiliser for b....
]
;W[gm]
;B[im]C[elsky [2d\]: cant believe w lets b play it
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;W[gn]
;B[go]
;W[hn]C[gogonuts [4d\]: J7 threw down the gauntlet
gogonuts [4d\]: w must punish
]
;B[in]C[hfdtd [1d\]: Black must block or he already lost much there.
]
;W[io]C[gogonuts [4d\]: and w must cut :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: some things you just have to do
]
;B[ip]C[gogonuts [4d\]: if w gets problems the fault was  with g7
]
;W[jo]
;B[hp]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w looking ok though
Jesus3 [1k?\]: Who's playing
gogonuts [4d\]: w aaron ye, b jeremy chiu, it says
spacetime [4d\]: w seems in command
Jesus3 [1k?\]: Thx
]
;W[jp]
;B[jq]
;W[kq]
;B[ir]
;W[jr]
;B[iq]C[gogonuts [4d\]: especially since ws left group can make eyes in case of emergency, this looks tough for 
gogonuts [4d\]: b
eyrh: w is quite strong?
]
;W[lp]C[gogonuts [4d\]: L6?
gogonuts [4d\]: ok, L6 too funky :-)
Huldioho [6k\]: yes, i guess he is also stronger than me
Huldioho [6k\]: Oo
spacetime [4d\]: these are two of the rising stars in american go. they are what like 15yo?
embeck [4k\]: this is pro qualifier...they are all strong
]
;B[bs]C[spacetime [4d\]: maybe younger
]
;W[cs]C[gogonuts [4d\]: what is b looking for?
eyrh: lol
eyrh: not every pro qualifier is strong
Grunman [5k\]: it's ok move
]
;B[bp]C[embeck [4k\]: stronger than most
]
;W[as]C[Huldioho [6k\]: this looks not good for b
nanotech [2k\]: so b alive on left but j line is sooooo off
]
;B[kr]
;W[lr]
;B[js]C[hfdtd [1d\]: The safe way.
hanskrens [5k\]: B7 looked better to me
YZ1509 [4d\]: j9 now seems only move
OddKibitz [2d\]: I agree
hfdtd [1d\]: I don't.
Herod [-\]: These two players are both 13
YZ1509 [4d\]: allowing those 4 stones to walk freely 
chonas [6k\]: what's a monkey jump in sente do here?
]
;W[nq]C[hfdtd [1d\]: After J9 there is a cut at H9 later.
YZ1509 [4d\]: maybe n3 for shape
hanskrens [5k\]: forst look how W responds to something like P9 shoulder?
gogonuts [4d\]: too fancy
piumpium: m4 seems weaker than g8 so
YZ1509 [4d\]: aha o3
gogonuts [4d\]: too much reading :-)
YZ1509 [4d\]: i thought j10 for black being sente, but c6 seems white way to settle ocally
gogonuts [4d\]: i fb answers things get worse, so b j10
gogonuts [4d\]: strange that w didn't take f9 opportunity
YZ1509 [4d\]: o4 for 02 first or viceversa
]
;B[np]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: o4 is the most solid way to solve it locally
gogonuts [4d\]: gote seems unattractive here - back to f9
]
;W[mq]
;B[nr]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: o3 said: i need to avoid bn3..so either n3 or o2 was a must according to that staement
]
;W[ln]C[gogonuts [4d\]: o4 was a bad answer
gogonuts [4d\]: either o2 or tenuki
YZ1509 [4d\]: and due to w c6 being sente, white doesn't bother about the central 4 at all
Huldioho [6k\]: now he must do something with k8
]
;B[hk]C[gogonuts [4d\]: no way
YZ1509 [4d\]: white is making eyes on the square inch
]
;W[en]C[gogonuts [4d\]: h9 has to be overplay
anewtry [2d\]: may i ask for a website for info? the link in USGO1 description not working
]
;B[fo]C[gogonuts [4d\]: wishful think of b - he's not in the drivers seat
YZ1509 [4d\]: obviously white is studying recent pro games and pretty skilled in securing his groups
YZ1509 [4d\]: he must be reading the consequences of j9 now
]
;W[ik]C[hfdtd [1d\]: Wow.
]
;B[gk]
;W[fm]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: why wow??? is only move
]
;B[fl]
;W[em]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: note that w c6 will be sente to blacks group
gogonuts [4d\]: h9 was begging for w J9
]
;B[kl]C[gogonuts [4d\]: escaping from the bottom not a must
]
;W[fk]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes white making eyes on the square inch, helps in avoiding n7
hfdtd [1d\]: Is N7 sente for Black?
]
;B[gi]C[gogonuts [4d\]: i would have expected b n7
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe now n7 is a good deal for w
gogonuts [4d\]: J9 still cant be capturesd
haku123 [2d\]: can b kill left group if w tenuki?
MoonKnight [1d\]: what black will get if b play n7?
gogonuts [4d\]: sort out the colors
haku123 [2d\]: black b7 seems to kill
]
;W[ij]
;B[hi]C[gogonuts [4d\]: your right - b7 is surprisingly dangerous
hanskrens [5k\]: so white can play B6 to put pressure on the black group at the bottom
Slaboumov [4k\]: b6 h2 miai
YZ1509 [4d\]: l10
gogonuts [4d\]: could be seki though - because it can hurt b too
gogonuts [4d\]: too hard for me 
Raidzu [1k\]: let's play m9 first
Huldioho [6k\]: b back in the game
YZ1509 [4d\]: moves like m9 are correct when you intend and can hane next
]
;W[bn]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: but that would lose the cuttingstones on j10 i think
hanskrens [5k\]: white B6 defends against black B7, at the same time sente, right?
gogonuts [4d\]: lets see what happens
MoonKnight [1d\]: right
Raidzu [1k\]: good point. thx!
gogonuts [4d\]: b c6 now?
Huldioho [6k\]: can lead to ko
Huldioho [6k\]: at m2
]
;B[cn]C[gogonuts [4d\]: a bitter fight for sente :-)
]
;W[cm]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: i must reread when liberties count chapter 20 i guess
gogonuts [4d\]: w concedes sente
gogonuts [4d\]: ah wait
gogonuts [4d\]: with ko :-)
MoonKnight [1d\]: still sort of sente
Crono9987 [3d\]: yeah, but that ko is big enough
Crono9987 [3d\]: that i think w will have to respond to B5
Crono9987 [3d\]: although
Crono9987 [3d\]: he could play some forcing moves in the N8 area first
gogonuts [4d\]: but b5 is gote for b
Crono9987 [3d\]: which would suck for b
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes white h2 will make a big ko now, where black has lots of stones on the line
gogonuts [4d\]: b might go with the ko - its dangerous for w too
Crono9987 [3d\]: ah yeah you're right, B5 doesn't work 
]
;B[mm]C[Crono9987 [3d\]: i thought there was ko for white's group
Crono9987 [3d\]: after B5
YZ1509 [4d\]: white always has e8 in store
YZ1509 [4d\]: or a8
gogonuts [4d\]: if b5 w has half an eye on the side
Crono9987 [3d\]: well, what i was thinking
Crono9987 [3d\]: is
Crono9987 [3d\]: if B5 is there
Huldioho [6k\]: b just taking sente
Huldioho [6k\]: :)
Crono9987 [3d\]: then if b plays E8, w plays A8
gogonuts [4d\]: b neede that sente
Crono9987 [3d\]: then b can set up a ko for the bottom left corner
Crono9987 [3d\]: atari at A6, then connect at A5
YZ1509 [4d\]: so black says, i have local kodate on n3 group to fight that ko
]
;W[lm]
;B[ll]
;W[ml]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: next kiri ^^
gogonuts [4d\]: the problem with the ko for w is that if b wins it w still has to live - so its very easy to invest for nothing for w
YZ1509 [4d\]: they fight viciously don't they
Slaboumov [4k\]: or he can play h2 and solve all troubles with this group )
YZ1509 [4d\]: rather b g2 if any
gogonuts [4d\]: ws advantage in the center fight is that if he can create large ko threats ...
]
;B[mk]
;W[nl]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes this cut starts to help whites moyo on the right
]
;B[mn]
;W[mo]
;B[nn]C[Vindicare [3k\]: w can k8 for life
]
;W[lk]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: nah more cut and opt for bigger
Raidzu [1k\]: not greedy enough
Slaboumov [4k\]: need more cuts!!!
gogonuts [4d\]: k8 is ws insurance policy
hvk [-\]: 9K
gogonuts [4d\]: no need to play it, since he could play it :-)
hanskrens [5k\]: whites right side is beginning to look too big for comfort
YZ1509 [4d\]: so white is willing to give them j10 stones for expansion of his moyo on the right
hanskrens [5k\]: looks like it
gogonuts [4d\]: yes, that much he would pay :-)
YZ1509 [4d\]: next he completes his square inch lifes and goes for ko with h2
hanskrens [5k\]: Black L10
YZ1509 [4d\]: k8 is indeed whites counter for b n4
]
;B[jk]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: so now n4 is a real threat
]
;W[lj]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: n2 and o5?
]
;B[jj]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: aha ofcourse extending the cuttingstone forces k10
YZ1509 [4d\]: but threat n4 is immement
]
;W[or]
;B[pr]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: so professional
hanskrens [5k\]: as in: I do not understand
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
YZ1509 [4d\]: cut first then think
hanskrens [5k\]: aha!
gogonuts [4d\]: it helps in sequences where b can keep putting w in atari
MoonKnight [1d\]: this is for n1
]
;W[ms]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: cutting mostly leads to gaining a kodate instead of a docile n2
gogonuts [4d\]: aha
hanskrens [5k\]: this is for L1!
MoonKnight [1d\]: yes
MoonKnight [1d\]: if needed
Falcon89 [5k\]: Danger!
YZ1509 [4d\]: another ko-aji born
hanskrens [5k\]: no matter which ko he wins, he will kill!
YZ1509 [4d\]: not really
gogonuts [4d\]: if b takes w simply L5
gogonuts [4d\]: can b L5?
YZ1509 [4d\]: b n4 still kills white
gogonuts [4d\]: ok, w o5 p6 l5 if b just takes
Huldioho [6k\]: super exiting game
YZ1509 [4d\]: so p1 o5 l1 h2 b5
gogonuts [4d\]: i think b has to fire back at L5
Crono9987 [3d\]: does L5 actually work
Crono9987 [3d\]: it looks like it does
Crono9987 [3d\]: but
Crono9987 [3d\]: hmm
hanskrens [5k\]: L6 is better
gogonuts [4d\]: l6 looks better
gogonuts [4d\]: but it has to be defended after w L5
Crono9987 [3d\]: if b L6, w L5 is sente
Crono9987 [3d\]: which is a problem
gogonuts [4d\]: because of snap-threat
YZ1509 [4d\]: i don't like looks
]
;B[os]
;W[no]
;B[on]
;W[mr]C[gogonuts [4d\]: oops right
gogonuts [4d\]: simpler
Raidzu [1k\]: looks quite alive
gogonuts [4d\]: b had nothing against this
YZ1509 [4d\]: so white is safe now, we are comming back to the ko on that f5 group
Vindicare [3k\]: b dead now?
gogonuts [4d\]: n2 is better for L1 threat
MoonKnight [1d\]: fighting for the sente
]
;B[bo]C[gogonuts [4d\]: with w added L1, I think b has to come back to b5 pronto
Crono9987 [3d\]: b can still create ko on w's corner group if w ignores this
gogonuts [4d\]: as he did ...
YZ1509 [4d\]: now white has many choice
hfdtd [1d\]: Black`s N7 would have been better before. Now White has already a stone on B6.
hvk [-\]: 7A
YZ1509 [4d\]: a8 or fight any ko
gogonuts [4d\]: move J10 is one option :-)
]
;W[am]C[gogonuts [4d\]: oh right
gogonuts [4d\]: sente
YZ1509 [4d\]: a7 similar like a8, white made another life
gogonuts [4d\]: much better than if b takes in sente
gogonuts [4d\]: the ko that is threatened now is totally one-sided
gogonuts [4d\]: b has to avoid it
]
;B[br]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes black still has the burden of ko upon him after d6
k81 [1k?\]: a7 wasn't good
Raidzu [1k\]: but w has l1 in sttore?
MoonKnight [1d\]: hehe
YZ1509 [4d\]: b2 is nice find
]
;W[aq]C[gogonuts [4d\]: k81, i think your righ
gogonuts [4d\]: t
gogonuts [4d\]: should have a8 instead
]
;B[ak]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: oh did i do better than the player thx nuts
]
;W[el]C[hvk [-\]: 5
hanskrens [5k\]: A6 first, then A4 for black
]
;B[bl]
;W[bm]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w concede his mistake
gogonuts [4d\]: but retained sente
YZ1509 [4d\]: maginal error 
hfdtd [1d\]: Black is fighting at the edge.
gogonuts [4d\]: still, very painful
Neufx9 [6d\]: n1 was pointless
]
;B[hr]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w must be in a very bad mood for overlooking b2
]
;W[gr]
;B[ks]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: and thus everything solved and alive
Raidzu [1k\]: what's next? s15?
hvk [-\]: 11J
gogonuts [4d\]: so now J10 can move :-)
YZ1509 [4d\]: n10 honte or n16
]
;W[pl]C[Katoan [3k\]: what about top?
YZ1509 [4d\]: aha blot there between the elephants ofcourse
gogonuts [4d\]: q8 very respectable
]
;B[ki]
;W[re]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: q8 feels like laying a claim i win
hfdtd [1d\]: White seems to feel good.
gogonuts [4d\]: playing this honte after that muck up at a7 shows a lot of self-control
Huldioho [6k\]: time to resign
]
;B[nh]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: still alot of ground between g17 and o17 to fight, so resigning nah
]
;W[oh]C[Katoan [3k\]: I would not be able to play P12 ^^;
YZ1509 [4d\]: my count makes this a white win, but likely for black i am a bad counter
piumpium: b 31, w 43.5
YZ1509 [4d\]: luckily
]
;B[ng]C[piumpium: oh forgot bottom right i think...
]
;W[rc]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: it's blacks turn though, so can he match that shortfall
hfdtd [1d\]: Black has some potential in the middle or the upper rim.
]
;B[oi]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah b 36 w ...
Katoan [3k\]: how much time do they have left?
piumpium: sith s17 b is down a lot of points
piumpium: *with
YZ1509 [4d\]: w 40 
YZ1509 [4d\]: w 42
YZ1509 [4d\]: and komi
]
;W[ni]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: so i still have black on the shortside
USGO5 [-\]: see round 1 highlights on the Official AGA YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7GMpHg0a3A
piumpium: ... highlights?
]
;B[og]
;W[ph]
;B[pg]C[Alife361 [5k?\]: Is there results table?
]
;W[qg]C[Alife361 [5k?\]: standings i mean
hanskrens [5k\]: if b can get J17, game seems pretty close
YZ1509 [4d\]: nah they don't do resultstables for pro-qualifiier any longer, it's all about gracious stoneplacement and noseshape these days
]
;B[qd]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: i overheard nuts saying that too, looks
]
;W[pf]C[MoonKnight [1d\]: seems b is better
Alife361 [5k?\]: so professional.....
Trevors [5k\]: wldnt q 11 for blk set up to take either m10 group or o8
]
;B[mi]
;W[nj]
;B[mj]
;W[nk]
;B[mh]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: this fixes the shapes heavily
]
;W[mc]C[USGO5 [-\]: the AGA website has been down most of the weekend... we're still working on getting the results page up
Alife361 [5k?\]: thanks
]
;B[nd]C[hfdtd [1d\]: Upper side or T16 now?
YZ1509 [4d\]: k17 must be bigger than t16
MoonKnight [1d\]: t16 slow, i think
]
;W[jd]
;B[kc]
;W[jc]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: comming to the centre is important too black has a big atsumi there which needs to be reduced
]
;B[jb]
;W[ib]
;B[kb]
;W[ef]
;B[df]
;W[sd]
;B[ge]
;W[hd]C[MoonKnight [1d\]: f16
YZ1509 [4d\]: actually l16 
hfdtd [1d\]: White plays simple. He might be confident.
]
;B[sm]
;W[rm]
;B[sn]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: l16 looks like the biggest gote to play for black now
OddKibitz [2d\]: There are entire books dedicated to the monkey jump.
MoonKnight [1d\]: t7 larger than t16
OddKibitz [2d\]: I have not read a single on of them, and don't understand the monkey jump at all.
al5: Is that true?
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes 
YZ1509 [4d\]: kawabata's novel
al5: Huh, I didn't think there was that much to a monkey jump
haku123 [2d\]: t16 was at least 10points + continuation
]
;W[sl]
;B[ro]C[MoonKnight [1d\]: t7 sente worh twice as much 
]
;W[rn]
;B[so]
;W[rl]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: you can't possibly play igo and haven't read kawabata
]
;B[qb]C[OddKibitz [2d\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?MonkeyJumpWorkshop
OddKibitz [2d\]: a 150 book called The Monkey Jump Workshop
]
;W[kd]
;B[ld]
;W[lc]
;B[md]
;W[ja]C[al5: Maybe I have never actually played go, thanks for the link
]
;B[mb]
;W[ka]
;B[lb]C[al5: And that novel looks interesting
OddKibitz [2d\]: :)
Seakay [3k\]: not sure l19 is worth more than m15
toffee [2d\]: w obviously not on the same level as b.
YZ1509 [4d\]: still counting a small + for white possibly less than komi
OddKibitz [2d\]: SE strongly favors B
]
;W[he]C[hanskrens [5k\]: J13 for white now?
kaji82 [3k\]: time ???
YZ1509 [4d\]: just play j13 and see how se tilts ^^
Seakay [3k\]: = = if w intended to play h15
Seakay [3k\]: i wonder why not m15
Seakay [3k\]: instead of m17
haku123 [2d\]: seakay, i guess for yose at k19
YZ1509 [4d\]: h15 is more prudent though than j13, white still tries to make the most of the e14 stone
]
;B[fd]C[Seakay [3k\]: that's the part i was referring to, m15 being bigger than k19
]
;W[fc]C[piumpium: SE has never been fixed, because the intention behind it is to motivate everyone to count for themselves.
YZ1509 [4d\]: f11 will son be white move too
haku123 [2d\]: well, if w m15 black m17, and can have yose at j19
YZ1509 [4d\]: thus SE tends to overestimate that black atsumi
haku123 [2d\]: m15 in itself worth nothing
]
;B[hf]
;W[if]
;B[hg]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: f11 and l13 next?
]
;W[ig]
;B[ih]C[hanskrens [5k\]: I was thinking about the same two moves
]
;W[qc]C[hanskrens [5k\]: white still has initiative and killing threat on the bottom. Stil looking solod
hanskrens [5k\]: solid
YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah s18 corner is biggest now
haku123 [2d\]: killing threat?
piumpium: h1 is quite big
YZ1509 [4d\]: h1 for d6 he might mean
hanskrens [5k\]: H1 kills when not answered at D6
haku123 [2d\]: right
]
;B[pc]C[piumpium: since b g1, w must answer
LEIBNIZ [2k\]: b has miai on bottom
piumpium: twice
]
;W[rb]
;B[ra]
;W[pb]
;B[pa]
;W[qa]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: so we go for the shobute-ko 
kaji82 [3k\]: i don't like black now
Seakay [3k\]: i guess b puts game on this ko
]
;B[ap]
;W[bs]
;B[qb]
;W[hs]
;B[dn]
;W[qa]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: black must have counted he needs to play like this , bq18 wasn't enough
]
;B[op]
;W[mp]
;B[qb]
;W[gs]
;B[is]
;W[qa]C[Seakay [3k\]: if b has enough threats, b going for t18?
YZ1509 [4d\]: white plays his big kodate which we just discussed
]
;B[km]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: but who has collected more of those throughout the game?
]
;W[kn]
;B[qb]
;W[eo]
;B[ep]
;W[qa]
;B[dr]
;W[er]C[hanskrens [5k\]: K6
]
;B[qb]C[hanskrens [5k\]: D1
piumpium: k6 gives w 2 more threats
hanskrens [5k\]: T17
YZ1509 [4d\]: and here you see once more why pro prefer to play solidly
hanskrens [5k\]: black stillhas a few
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes r12 is surely enough for him
MoonKnight [1d\]: cannot play k6
Seakay [3k\]: w has p18
Seakay [3k\]: really make this ko bigger
piumpium: actually
piumpium: it's much more than 2
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes k6 is big enough threat but returns new threats to whites counter
Slaboumov [4k\]: l5 as variant )
piumpium: same
piumpium: but worse
YZ1509 [4d\]: wasting points while playing ko isn't very pro
]
;W[gf]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: so b l5 won't be played
Seakay [3k\]: e16
]
;B[gg]
;W[qa]
;B[pi]
;W[qh]
;B[qb]
;W[fi]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: any more coal for the steamengine, we are almost running dry here
]
;B[ob]
;W[fh]C[Seakay [3k\]: eh? i thought b might want to push further with t18
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes that was expected...white needs to play t17 soon
]
;B[sb]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: but saving e14, could taht be enough for white?
]
;W[ff]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: black caught alot now in the upperright corner
]
;B[fg]
;W[fe]
;B[ed]
;W[gd]C[Seakay [3k\]: how the heck did w end up with gote in this current sequence?
]
;B[jg]
;W[jf]
;B[kg]
;W[be]C[dogbert [3d\]: but Q11 was a very bad threat for b,
Seakay [3k\]: yea, rather r12
piumpium: top right was worth 26 points in gote
hanskrens [5k\]: agree. D1 would have been much better
YZ1509 [4d\]: i count now B +2 before the ko i thought white held a small margin
]
;B[jn]
;W[ko]C[haku123 [2d\]: p7
]
;B[qe]
;W[rf]
;B[kf]
;W[gh]
;B[eg]
;W[hh]
;B[ii]
;W[ke]C[piumpium: white got about 16 points
Seakay [3k\]: m19 first
piumpium: so b+10 in the exchange
YZ1509 [4d\]: so we agree on that black managed to make a gameswinger in that shobute-ko?
]
;B[om]C[piumpium: haven't counted the game yet
]
;W[pm]
;B[ol]
;W[ok]C[hanskrens [5k\]: I dont know if WE agree. I can say I agree
]
;B[le]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah you keep counting and counting, and we still try to be fresh for KJ verses lsd
]
;W[ns]C[hanskrens [5k\]: J17 for black
]
;B[or]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: good game we have seen here though
]
;W[ei]
;B[ec]C[hanskrens [5k\]: why doesnt white play A14?
]
;W[eb]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: sadly one of them always wins
YZ1509 [4d\]: unless they manage to make not played result
remsleep [?\]: or quad ko ;-)
]
;B[la]C[piumpium: I have W + 2.5 still
groobiest: b should of e11?
]
;W[ia]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: however in aga rules moves get prohibited don't they
]
;B[al]C[a1328 [3k\]: D11
remsleep [?\]: ah right
]
;W[dh]
;B[ch]C[play234 [-\]: b+3
remsleep [?\]: AGA is no repeat position?
]
;W[nf]
;B[mf]
;W[af]
;B[ag]
;W[ae]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes i think so, saw 3 squares on my internet board once
]
;B[ne]
;W[se]
;B[sc]
;W[oe]
;B[od]
;W[gj]
;B[hj]
;W[fj]
;B[bg]
;W[ge]
;B[di]
;W[eh]
;B[hq]
;W[gp]
;B[nm]
;W[an]
;B[pe]
;W[ej]
;B[ao]
;W[ls]
;B[ee]C[haku123 [2d\]: w gives stone?
YZ1509 [4d\]: where squares are used as forbidden move markers
a1328 [3k\]: who win?
siruos [?\]: Yes, White must pass a stone to Black.
piumpium: called it
USGO1 [-\]: they're counting now
USGO1 [-\]: thanks for watching
MoonKnight [1d\]: Thank you USGO1
YZ1509 [4d\]: the one with the best noseshape ofcourse, it's all about looks gogonuts told so , and i am a great fan of nuts
YZ1509 [4d\]: good relay Chris
USGO1 [-\]: next up is our live game commentary on the MLily Cup finals between Lee Sedol 9P and Ke Jie 9P
questhe [2k\]: mily game 4?
groobiest: never heard of them fellas
kaji82 [3k\]: who won?
Demon [3d\]: and the official score is...?
USGO1 [-\]: w wins by 1.5
a1328 [3k\]: anyway WHO WIN this game
USGO5 [-\]: thanks usgo1
piumpium: ah 1.5, right, that passing stone
USGO1 [-\]: thanks for watching!
groobiest: thx
sweety [-\]: Thank you USGO1!
Demon [3d\]: thanks for the relay  :)
a1328 [3k\]: thanks
USGO1 [-\]: next round 9:30a pst tmw and then round 4 at 3p pst
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