(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[4th AGA Pro Qual Finals Round 1 Andrew Lu 7d (W) vs Aaron Ye 7d (B)]PW[Andrew Lu]PB[Aaron Ye]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2016-01-03]EV[4th AGA Pro Qual Finals]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Garlock]RE[B+Resign]
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;W[dc]
;B[pq]
;W[dp]
;B[oc]
;W[po]C[SolidaS [11k\]: will be it broadcast on youtube as last games?
benzmd [1k\]: what ranks are they?
YZ1509 [4d\]: it's pro qualification so 6d's
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;B[qo]
;W[qn]
;B[qp]
;W[rd]
;B[qe]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: winner gets honorary 7d
kmr [2d\]: black is stable KGS 7d
USGO1 [-\]: welcome to the first round of the 4th US pro qualifier
Arum [3d\]: what's b's user name?
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes aga ranks varied a bit from this old 6d, 7d from the past
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;W[pm]
;B[cn]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: oh this is odd
USGO1 [-\]: sorry; wireless here seems a bit funky this morning
USGO1 [-\]: we're not streaming on YouTube because we only have wireless
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;W[ck]C[USGO1 [-\]: but we do hope to have some videos to upload after each round
USGO1 [-\]: also, the AGA website is still down due to a DNS attack
JeansebL [1d?\]: cool thank you
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;B[fq]C[alienist [5k\]: please explain why odd 
USGO1 [-\]: so keep up with news and reports on our Facebook and Twitter feeds
JeansebL [1d?\]: Will the results and scedule be updated somewhere?
JeansebL [1d?\]: Ah I see
USGO1 [-\]: if you have specific questions, please post them to USGO 5
JeansebL [1d?\]: alright
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;W[dn]
;B[cq]C[yoyoma [3d\]: What is the AGA Facebook page name?
easyrobot [2k\]: facebook.com/aga
USGO1 [-\]: both players are 7d
remsleep [?\]: how much clock for these games?
MoonKnight [1d\]: d3, i guess
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;W[co]
;B[dq]C[Fuseques [-\]: p3
rollstory [1d\]: p3 useless, coz lowerside wont give much pts
Fuseques [-\]: will you tenuki it?
boomm [2d?\]: p3 is a bad plan
rollstory [1d\]: not tenuki..but p3 is gote for w and there are complications with crude q4
Fuseques [-\]: gote for white how? do you know any variations with p3?
boomm [2d?\]: If you play sutch a shape, you wont end in sente
gogonuts [4d\]: pretty sure w will take sente now
boomm [2d?\]: hmm
rollstory [1d\]: p3 p2 o3 o2 q4 r2 m3
boomm [2d?\]: i think so 2
Fuseques [-\]: p3 q4p4 p5 q6 p2 o2 o5 
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe o4
gogonuts [4d\]: p3 could be too much
Fuseques [-\]: now black either plays o3 and gets gote and two low sides or he takes sente and white gets a too good result
rollstory [1d\]:  c6 valuable but d15 also tempting
Fuseques [-\]: o4 will be tenukied
Epsilion [4k\]: is the sedol game today?
yoyoma [3d\]: Yes Epsilion in like 11 hours
YZ1509 [4d\]: nah in 6 h already
MoonKnight [1d\]: how about h3?
Epsilion [4k\]: ok thx
First [1k\]: c7 is priority
rollstory [1d\]: i think bottom pretty small
YZ1509 [4d\]: so they must finish this game within that time else usgo can't realy that match ^^
rollstory [1d\]: if tenuki then i d rather secure top corner
YZ1509 [4d\]: so e16 shimari then?
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;W[qi]C[Fuseques [-\]: this is better for black
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;B[de]C[boomm [2d?\]: lol
rollstory [1d\]: r11 was also pretty big
boomm [2d?\]: r11 is way better then p3
YZ1509 [4d\]: how would you figure that fuse?
Fuseques [-\]: got a better local result on the left, managed to skip playing o3, way too good
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;W[cg]C[yoyoma [3d\]: How old is Aaron now? 15?
First [1k\]: aXn5 
rollstory [1d\]: o3 also has its value which will be determined later
YZ1509 [4d\]: how did p4 get unpopular?
gogonuts [4d\]: interesting r11 - it feels strange to play here when b hasn't protected the corner, but it makes a lot of sense
sedgwick [?\]: Aaron is 13
rigormotti [13k\]: i'm 12. why aren't i a pro
rollstory [1d\]: to me p4 looks kinda cramped
sedgwick [?\]: Only y9u can answer that:)
gogonuts [4d\]: you're falling behind, rigor
YZ1509 [4d\]: you lack the fivehundred thousand game experience
rigormotti [13k\]: shucke
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;B[fd]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: and matching amount of tsumego
Fuseques [-\]: f16 seems wrong
gogonuts [4d\]: i like it
rigormotti [13k\]: it's been 5 years off and on and i'm only 13k
Fuseques [-\]: makes w soild, c7 becomes less valuable
gogonuts [4d\]: b doesnt want a fight on the left
YZ1509 [4d\]: very pro to play anti-joseki
yoyoma [3d\]: Fuseques what would you play instead of F16?
gogonuts [4d\]: c7 is big but not extremely important
Fuseques [-\]: well perhaps d15 was sub optimal to begin with
rigormotti [13k\]: j16? 
gogonuts [4d\]: c7 d7 b5 c8 c4 and w takes sente - b wont play for a while
yoyoma [3d\]: ok then what would you play instead of D15?  :)
HW [-\]: so many people with an idea of what's going on
HW [-\]: i love it
Raidzu [1k\]: f17 now i suppose
Fuseques [-\]: well even straight c7 seems possible
rollstory [1d\]: but i dont like omitting  c6 because c7 makes a lot of pts
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes black takes atsumi in topcorners and solid poistions on the lower side
gogonuts [4d\]: f16 looks strange, but its a good way to handle a weak position
rigormotti [13k\]: white needs to be careful to not let black develop moyo on the top
YZ1509 [4d\]: w d16 now?
rollstory [1d\]: f16 concerns about the top side which is big
rigormotti [13k\]: d16 sounds good because of the other stone
Raidzu [1k\]: never seen d16. is it joseki?
rollstory [1d\]: f17 now? ladder works for w
YZ1509 [4d\]: hai
Raidzu [1k\]: domo
First [1k\]: daimyo
YZ1509 [4d\]: d16 forstalls any c17 corner -aji seeker
YZ1509 [4d\]: and after c15 e15 and fight
YZ1509 [4d\]: docile f18 ffels to much like giving black the flow of the game
Fuseques [-\]: normal joseki here is just c15
rigormotti [13k\]: how much time do they get? isn't it 2 hours?
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes but then black will shape up taking d16 and e17
Fuseques [-\]: and w gets a solid corner
Welvang [6d\]: there is no normal joseki here, its just good for white...but i guess its possible
rigormotti [13k\]: c15?
YZ1509 [4d\]: so i wonder what will come out when you fight it like d16, it will ceratinly invlove shicho, but those seem to be good as white still holds p3
YZ1509 [4d\]: but ... there is the black nozoki at p6 ofcourse
YZ1509 [4d\]: so it requires carefull reading here before making the choice
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;W[fc]C[USGO1 [-\]: again, welcome to the first round of the 4th AGA pro Qualifier
USGO1 [-\]: I'm Chris Garlock, your game recorder
Falcon89 [5k\]: thanks Chris
USGO1 [-\]: questions and comments should be directed to usgo5 (Dennis Wheeler)
USGO1 [-\]: no streaming (wireless too flaky here at Hotel Normandie) bu we hope to post some videos after each round
YZ1509 [4d\]: one of the first annotators who properly write his name down, thx for the relay
USGO1 [-\]: photos are being popsted on Facebook and Twitter
rigormotti [13k\]: thanks chris
USGO1 [-\]: posted
First [1k\]: this is the power of north american insei
rigormotti [13k\]: we have insei in north america?
Falcon89 [5k\]: nah
rigormotti [13k\]: lol
gogonuts [4d\]: the other hope to misclick anonymously :-)
Falcon89 [5k\]: mr First kids all the time
rigormotti [13k\]: lol
YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah i love those moments when annotators make unexpected patterns
MoonKnight [1d\]: c17 now?
YZ1509 [4d\]: but they should be more carefull though afterall i have a heartcondition
YZ1509 [4d\]: tsuke, hane
rigormotti [13k\]: i want to see a very long ladder this game
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;B[ok]C[Fuseques [-\]: this is sooo painful for black ~.~
YZ1509 [4d\]: now g17 involves a ladder....so ....
mafutrct [2d?\]: i dont think its all that painful
mafutrct [2d?\]: maybe b decided he would not get a chance to R8 in this game anyway
gogonuts [4d\]: b sure is working hard for a ladder breaker
gogonuts [4d\]: i thought he would just play c17
mafutrct [2d?\]: and if g17 works, i think its locally painful for white, so....
YZ1509 [4d\]: locally q10 should be enough
mafutrct [2d?\]: q10 leaves huge aji compared to r9 though?
Fuseques [-\]: q10 still lives aji at r8
Fuseques [-\]: just r9 is good
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;W[gd]
;B[qk]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes white continues at the tsuke hane
YZ1509 [4d\]: and split...ok we have a fight
mafutrct [2d?\]: this game will be interesting :o
Falcon89 [5k\]: wonderful
Falcon89 [5k\]: we like to see a good fight  ^^
Kaylo [11k\]: is there live live stream of the game?
mafutrct [2d?\]: USGO1 [-\]: no streaming (wireless too flaky here at Hotel Normandie) bu we hope to post some videos after each round
Bahji [4k\]: S16 was played expecting this right... sorry my question amark doesnèt work for some odd reason
gogonuts [4d\]: to me this seems good for b
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;W[mn]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: I don't think S16 was played with this result in mind :) the usual pattern after s16 is quite different
gogonuts [4d\]: r9 had more punch than w g16
Kaylo [11k\]: are american Pros stronger than European?
mafutrct [2d?\]: maybe w decided that he could s15 later, so P11 does not hurt him too much
First [1k\]: kaylo don't start world war iii please
gogonuts [4d\]: he's just asking :-)
mafutrct [2d?\]: we'll have to wait for a tournament to see ;) i think roughly same
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;B[cc]C[Bahji [4k\]: <
Kaylo [11k\]: yeah, is the rank chart equal ?
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;W[cb]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: there is no useful rank chart for that. but their kgs ranks are similar
Kaylo [11k\]: i see, thx
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;B[dg]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: (btw, w s15, b almost never plays hane at s14 because w will just retreat and b is left with a cut)
gogonuts [4d\]: crosscut?
Bahji [4k\]: Thats what I thought... at my level of course
rollstory [1d\]: i guess b s15 would be a nice move after top left is settled
Orc [?\]: is there pro in the US?
mafutrct [2d?\]: i suppose s15 vs r17 is chosen depending on who gets to play P11 first
mafutrct [2d?\]: yes, there are pros in US and EU now
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;W[dh]C[HW [-\]: north america might be more accurate
mafutrct [2d?\]: right
Usurper [3d\]: In the EU there's pavol lisy, Dinerstein and..?
critter [1k\]: western hemisphere even more accurate :)
mafutrct [2d?\]: also Roln and Ali
Lyoug [3k\]: EU pros are Ali Jabarin, Pavol Lisy, Ilya Shikshin, and Mateus Surma
mafutrct [2d?\]: and ..what was his name?
mafutrct [2d?\]: taranu 5p
rollstory [1d\]: dinerstein not a real pro..
Kaylo [11k\]: dinersttein is not a pro
Usurper [3d\]: Ah, Ilya pro now too. He's my favorite. Isn't his sister also pro?
Kaylo [11k\]: about to say
mafutrct [2d?\]: dinerstein is a real pro, don't act childish you guys
Lyoug [3k\]: yeah, other European pros (Dinerstein, Taranu, Shikshina, Törmaännen) graduated in Asia
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;B[dd]C[Orc [?\]: Pro is not how you call him, but how strong he is
rollstory [1d\]: got more an honorary 3p title from korea to promote go in europe
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;W[ec]C[First [1k\]: lol how is that fake
First [1k\]: he kicked butt all over europe
Kaylo [11k\]: europe, thought he was russian
rollstory [1d\]: but no question diner is strong
mafutrct [2d?\]: pro is a title that he has, even if he were a weak pro. but he's been EU champion quite a few times, so he's not even weak.
rollstory [1d\]: did not say that
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;B[ch]C[olivedu13 [1d\]: actually fan hui is the best 
olivedu13 [1d\]: and pro too
olivedu13 [1d\]: and he is french now
Bahji [4k\]: Kind of disrespectful Id say. He`s obviously much stronger than 11kyu or 4 kyu, etc. I think that deserves some respect onto itself... Just sayin...
rollstory [1d\]: i think that hwang inseong is strongest in europe
mafutrct [2d?\]: I think we should not continue talking about that stuff
invoker [5d?\]: hahaha people still argue on diner level
olivedu13 [1d\]: yes but he is not french 
invoker [5d?\]: fan is french
Kaylo [11k\]: nobody disrespect him, just putting him in to correct league
Fiara [5k\]: Who cares where he's from, he's stronger than most here.
mafutrct [2d?\]: d14 e13 c14 would be too good for w?
Bahji [4k\]: 98% - 99% of the people here would be pretty accurate...
Kaylo [11k\]: way too good, white shouldnt play it, for a respect sake
mafutrct [2d?\]: would b chose d14 c14 instead?
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;W[cf]C[Bahji [4k\]: We find bio of players on the AGA websiteÉ
First [1k\]: we are talking about the power of america now
First [1k\]: not europe
Bahji [4k\]: Anyone know is there a short cut hot key to turn this É back into a question mark..
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;B[df]
;W[bh]C[Unstable [2k\]: bottom right. you should see ENG
Unstable [2k\]: its probably canadian (french) switch to english
Orc [?\]: B12? not C11?
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;B[ci]C[Falcon89 [5k\]: switch to Eng  US
Bahji [4k\]: tx Unstable
Unstable [2k\]: np
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;W[bi]C[Egg [11k\]: e12 d11 e11 c10 perhaps ?
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;B[ge]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: you would not want to remove that aji completely right away
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;W[ed]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: b may want to get a bonus at c15 instead. or just jump to f13
Bahji [4k\]: You guys are brilliant! Thanks..Fixed oermanently
First [1k\]: this is the power of windows 10
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;B[eh]
;W[di]
;B[ei]
;W[dj]C[Egg [11k\]: eh, is d10 better than c10 ?
bikini [1k\]: P11
Egg [11k\]: i mean, after c10 white has a connection at b16 
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;B[he]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: also, b has more eye potential around c15. i would have captured
TuLy [3k\]: h15? o.O
mafutrct [2d?\]: if white plays h16 now, he's pushing from behind
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;W[fe]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: if b had played f15, white would have been pushing ahead
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;B[ff]C[Egg [11k\]: h15 amazes me, probably a dan move, mould have never thought ot it
zima [1k\]: it's a good move to prevent attack on b group
mafutrct [2d?\]: it's a rather natural shape when you're used to it ;)
gogonuts [4d\]: b found a good solution to ws slightly strange e16
MoonKnight [1d\]: i thought about it, h15 seems toh only move...to me
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;W[jc]C[dutch2dan [1d?\]: roln, care to comment on the position?
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;B[lc]
;W[re]C[Egg [11k\]: black's points comes from his 3 corners, whites has points in the top and left side
Egg [11k\]: hm, perhaps also in this corner...
Orc [?\]: 17J becomes possible
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;B[qf]
;W[qc]C[gogonuts [4d\]: s15 looks painful for b, so i wonder about m17
ccsco [1k\]: B has 2 corners
gogonuts [4d\]: m17 at s15 for me
boomm [2d?\]: yea, m 17 was a poor choice
Egg [11k\]: is something like o3 good for black ?
rollstory [1d\]: r18 would be funny to watch
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;B[pc]C[XY0908 [-\]: yea, it would be fun to watch.
darkronin [1d?\]: R18 or S14? 
gogonuts [4d\]: r18
rollstory [1d\]: s14 s17 instantly
darkronin [1d?\]: But then R13 and stable
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;W[rf]
;B[rc]
;W[qg]C[darkronin [1d?\]: Lol wut 
Egg [11k\]: yeah, but either way white has gote
gogonuts [4d\]: that just can't be right
gogonuts [4d\]: even if it's a little bigger
zima [1k\]: yes, o3 is good, but now bottom side has a low position and may be move near n4 will better
darkronin [1d?\]: Did the scribe play out my var  xD
rollstory [1d\]: corner bigger than side i guess
rollstory [1d\]: p11 now?
Egg [11k\]: white has s18 as endgame ?
darkronin [1d?\]: So kgs agree on R18,  7d played s14
gogonuts [4d\]: the critical judgement is wether w is still a little weak, or the b 2 stones have become targets
critter [1k\]: r17 makes hane at r13 severe
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;B[np]C[kmr [2d\]: how can R13 be severe when black group touching it is so alive?
rollstory [1d\]: o5?
Egg [11k\]: guess o3 was too low
Mendieta [8k\]: hello. Are these games live?
rollstory [1d\]: i get the feeling that omitting o3 becomes beneficial
cekalo [1k\]: is there a live broadcast for this?
Bahji [4k\]: you mean slow ;-)
Falcon89 [5k\]: live game replay here
Mendieta [8k\]: great
Mendieta [8k\]: thanks
Mendieta [8k\]: and happy new year for all.
Falcon89 [5k\]: thx
cekalo [1k\]: is there a live broadcast for this?
Falcon89 [5k\]: no live streaming, mr cekalo
USGO1 [-\]: we're about 90 minutes into this first round of the 4th US pro qualification tournament
cekalo [1k\]: why not
Leptir [3k\]: their wireless went crazy
Falcon89 [5k\]: haha
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;W[ml]C[USGO1 [-\]: things are pretty quietly intense here at the playing area in the Hotel Normandie
Falcon89 [5k\]: u bet
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;B[mk]C[USGO1 [-\]: there's a really nice coffeecake from the restaurant downstairs bt none of the players have touched it yet
Falcon89 [5k\]: please pass it to us  
Leptir [3k\]: cake *.*
josetron [24k\]: =D
Mendieta [8k\]: what are the main time and byo for this kind of games?
josetron [24k\]: ^^
go [3k?\]: both players have coffee ?
Mendieta [8k\]: tea
cekalo [1k\]: if you play go you only should drink water
Mendieta [8k\]: I know high ranked go players that drink white beberages.
Mendieta [8k\]: not water
First [1k\]: wow
First [1k\]: poor internet
go [3k?\]: the scribe seems to escape a lot
rollstory [1d\]: depends on your constitution...if it is a game in the morning coffee and cig is fine to me
cekalo [1k\]: hey First
First [1k\]: hey cekalo
cekalo [1k\]: what are you doing here?
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;W[nl]
;B[nk]
;W[mp]
;B[mq]
;W[lq]C[Mendieta [8k\]: is it good for b to atari at m4?
plumplum: they must have really bad internet over there
plumplum: let me guess. wifi.
darkronin [1d?\]: If b atari, w will settle himself, mendieta 
Falcon89 [5k\]: W has expected m4 so what do you think?
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;B[mo]C[Mendieta [8k\]: n5 
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;W[lp]
;B[nn]C[Mendieta [8k\]: o6 ?
Mendieta [8k\]: yep
darkronin [1d?\]: You're thinking like a pro :D
Falcon89 [5k\]: haha
]
;W[lo]
;B[no]
;W[ol]
;B[ln]C[cekalo [1k\]: dark unbreakable is a bad movie
Mendieta [8k\]: with some delay. thanks for the clues.
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;W[mm]
;B[kn]C[Prometey [4k\]: w got 2 weak groups )
Mendieta [8k\]: is b better of or just wrong impression?
TuLy [3k\]: 3 o.O
PAPANINJA [4k\]: black is not exactly safe either.
darkronin [1d?\]: W has many points 
Falcon89 [5k\]: don't think w is afraid of the 2 stones at L6
darkronin [1d?\]: If he can handle his weak groups, he'll win
darkronin [1d?\]: O3 is in order now, right?
Mendieta [8k\]: everyone who handles weak groups will win. provided he is not being chased.for the opponent's profit.
Prometey [4k\]: after o3 b can getl8 first
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;W[nq]C[Mendieta [8k\]: yep
Mendieta [8k\]: but now o5 suffers
]
;B[mr]
;W[nr]C[cekalo [1k\]: this is gonne be intresting
Mendieta [8k\]:  and now the corner is in danger
cekalo [1k\]: corner is save
darkronin [1d?\]: Please refrain from using bad English pls 
dutch2dan [1d?\]: we will have to allow non-native speakers to state their ideas, even when not correctly formulated
]
;B[or]
;W[lr]C[Mendieta [8k\]: not everyone is a native english speaker.
Prometey [4k\]: ok, lets using russian xD
dutch2dan [1d?\]: ...
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;B[oq]C[dutch2dan [1d?\]: latin?
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;W[ms]C[Mendieta [8k\]: we will eventually
cekalo [1k\]: now m8 and game over
Orc [?\]: Q4 for white?
darkronin [1d?\]: dutch2dan and mendieta, I was joking with my friend ^^
Mendieta [8k\]: sure
dutch2dan [1d?\]: np darkronin. I wasn't
Mendieta [8k\]: read sigmund freud. the joke and it's relation with the inconscious.
cekalo [1k\]: dark you hurt my feelings
]
;B[rj]C[gogonuts [4d\]: btw, is this round robin?
rigormotti [13k\]: last year i did a report on frued
rigormotti [13k\]: freud*
cekalo [1k\]: why not m8?
Tlina2 [?\]: too many cut points maybe?
cekalo [1k\]: oh yes
Prometey [4k\]: kikasi before attack )
cekalo [1k\]: i suck at go
dutch2dan [1d?\]: rigor... freud or fraud (if there is any difference :p)
darkronin [1d?\]: This defends against the wedge at q9 that w hoped to use to break free :/
hfdtd [1d\]: I think Black´s shape is thin in the corner starting with Q4.
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;W[kl]
;B[ri]C[Kountch [1k\]: Tiger mouth
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;W[rh]C[Mendieta [8k\]: forcing move at q12 now?
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;B[ph]C[Mendieta [8k\]: yep
hfdtd [1d\]: Q4 is like a probe.
rigormotti [13k\]: lol dutch
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;W[pg]C[Epsilion [4k\]: w gotta get another eyee
]
;B[oh]C[sedgwick [?\]: w has r18 and then q16 squeeze
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;W[og]
;B[nh]C[Mendieta [8k\]: complicate fight
steve [3k?\]: so w answer to the q12 probe was basically saying you can have territory and a group on the right
Mendieta [8k\]: it will eventually trade corner for influence
steve [3k?\]: and I will punch through and reduce the center/top
steve [3k?\]: ?
]
;W[qb]
;B[rb]
;W[pd]
;B[pe]
;W[oe]
;B[od]
;W[pf]
;B[pd]
;W[me]C[Mendieta [8k\]: r12 too vulgar?
dopingg [11k\]: w doesnt live anyway
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;B[qh]C[Mendieta [8k\]: not that vulgar eventually
Ardziuna [1k\]: there is not way to kill w
Mendieta [8k\]: I think it's not a matter of capturing, but of getting profit from chase.
Epsilion [4k\]: where there's a will there's a way
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;W[ng]C[Mendieta [8k\]: capture may be rare event in this kind of games, I think.
Epsilion [4k\]: ko?
Epsilion [4k\]: nvm
Ardziuna [1k\]: what ko?
Mendieta [8k\]: what ko Epsilion?
Epsilion [4k\]: what ko eps??
Raidzu [1k\]: no. w would sac
]
;B[sh]
;W[rg]C[Mendieta [8k\]: o15 o14 for ko?
Mendieta [8k\]: or o15 n13 ?
rollstory [1d\]: c7 or j3?
]
;B[jm]C[Ardziuna [1k\]: o15-o16
Raidzu [1k\]: o15 o16 p14 o14 p15 o17 
Mendieta [8k\]: provided w is settled let's go on chasing w's group?
hfdtd [1d\]: Now it`s time for the white probe at Q4.
Raidzu [1k\]: how would that probe work, hfdtd?
]
;W[lk]C[rollstory [1d\]: q4 p4
Mendieta [8k\]: for this sequence? q4 p4 r3 
rollstory [1d\]: s3 then an nothing happens
USGO1 [-\]: white just went into last 10m of basic time
Mendieta [8k\]: q4 p4 r3 s3 
rollstory [1d\]: r2 s2
Mendieta [8k\]: j3 
olivedu13 [1d\]: where are b points ?
Tlina2 [?\]: in the corners
Mendieta [8k\]: corners
Mendieta [8k\]: and some center
Mendieta [8k\]: and right side
rollstory [1d\]: w doesnt have much either after b c7
Mendieta [8k\]: b c7 works?
]
;B[mh]C[rollstory [1d\]: also b h17 possible
]
;W[ik]C[rollstory [1d\]: c7 depends on the fighting
Raidzu [1k\]: well. w has n18 i suppose
Mendieta [8k\]: j3 or c7 then?
Mendieta [8k\]: j3 may build with l6
Mendieta [8k\]: h11 si big too, I think. but what do I know?
rollstory [1d\]: n18 bit risky i think coz o13 group is not 100% alive
Mendieta [8k\]: j11 may be
Raidzu [1k\]: of course. i mean it may be an option later
zima [1k\]: b need points
bbred [3k\]: k4 is sente?
bbred [3k\]: b lost?
Ardziuna [1k\]: b what?
zima [1k\]: i think, w ahead now
bbred [3k\]: b h17 is nice for later
rollstory [1d\]: also think that w is ahead but b has nice chances to catch up
Ardziuna [1k\]: w under splitting attack
zima [1k\]: h7 or d7 
Orc [?\]: J17
Mendieta [8k\]: c7 and fight or w will be pretty ahead.
Orc [?\]: C7 is bad
Mendieta [8k\]: left side is huge.
Ardziuna [1k\]: around G7
Epsilion [4k\]: orc what do u know, mendieta is pro 8k
bbred [3k\]: w g4 ish and the center will be uge
rollstory [1d\]: but c7 will let the fight turn out to be bad for b
Mendieta [8k\]: k3 may be?
zima [1k\]: j3 looks solid but perhaps it's slowly 
]
;B[ic]C[bbred [3k\]: k3 will get k7 killed, probably
Orc [?\]: haha he heard me saying
Raidzu [1k\]: good call Orc
]
;W[ib]
;B[jd]
;W[kc]
;B[kd]
;W[nd]C[tobe: i think w tries to live
wolokom [5k\]: nett
Ardziuna [1k\]: k18?
]
;B[nc]C[Koons [?\]: hey Chris, thanks for scribing
]
;W[ld]C[Mendieta [8k\]: m18 ?
Huldioho [6k\]: j17 sequence made no sense for me
]
;B[mc]C[Huldioho [6k\]: b  could have killed q14 ?
bbred [3k\]: b is attacking o13, reducing to in sente
Ardziuna [1k\]: no
bbred [3k\]: top
Orc [?\]: black is trying to attack but white is quite lively
]
;W[id]
;B[md]C[bbred [3k\]: sente is sente Troll
wolokom [5k\]: w ahed
]
;W[ne]C[Orc [?\]: what, N16 not M15?
Rettel [7k?\]: p15 ko
]
;B[sd]C[dopingg [11k\]: w in front for now, but not as big as before, and  q13 lives, perhaps
Ardziuna [1k\]: m16
rollstory [1d\]: b tries to kill
killrbunny [3k\]: b says, "you don't have 2 eyes"?
Ardziuna [1k\]: m15
]
;W[le]C[bbred [3k\]: m15
bbred [3k\]: bang bang
]
;B[ie]C[Orc [?\]: black had chance to make some profit but no way white would die
killrbunny [3k\]: If I were playing w, w would die!
bbred [3k\]: lol
rollstory [1d\]: lol
wolokom [5k\]: n0
Ardziuna [1k\]: no way to kill w
USGO1 [-\]: white has 1m bt left
kostuek [?\]: w could pass
rollstory [1d\]: if two 3k's are playing maybe
dopingg [11k\]: w doesnt live
Bahji [4k\]: sente eye at T15 for w right
killrbunny [3k\]: um... where is w's other eye?
Epsilion [4k\]: b gonna win
wolokom [5k\]: hm pass??
]
;W[ke]C[kostuek [?\]: if w passes he sure die
hfdtd [1d\]: T15 is not sente.
wolokom [5k\]: yes
]
;B[hd]C[darkronin [1d?\]: Love this calmness of w
Mendieta [8k\]: that's why he doesn't
Bahji [4k\]: Yeah I saw that now.
]
;W[hb]C[olivedu13 [1d\]: w not afraid
killrbunny [3k\]: n13 is not a threat?
ama [2k\]: l13 
wolokom [5k\]: l 13??
]
;B[kj]C[largehc [-\]: You don't win if you're afraid 
]
;W[jl]C[killrbunny [3k\]: I like b's attitude!
bbred [3k\]: sente, gotta keep it
Epsilion [4k\]: fear is the path to the darkside
Mendieta [8k\]: nice
cekalo [1k\]: w lost
Mendieta [8k\]: indirect attack
olivedu13 [1d\]: yes but it s a big group
Ardziuna [1k\]: n13?
wolokom [5k\]: b j17 still not alive
Tlina2 [?\]: b might want to save the cutting stones
Mendieta [8k\]: l13?
cekalo [1k\]: m13
Mendieta [8k\]: ok
Mendieta [8k\]: I was thinking the keima and made it ogeima
killrbunny [3k\]: Why doesn't n13 kill them?
dopingg [11k\]: it does
kostuek [?\]: trust in k15
bbred [3k\]: lol
Ardziuna [1k\]: keima works fine
Ardziuna [1k\]: L15
critter [1k\]: l15 already played
bbred [3k\]: k15... g14?
]
;B[jf]C[dopingg [11k\]: but may be k7 dead
]
;W[je]
;B[id]C[Ardziuna [1k\]: I mean L14
Huldioho [6k\]: w now dead?
wolokom [5k\]: no it dose not but this 
Ardziuna [1k\]: L13
USGO1 [-\]: white is in OT now
USGO1 [-\]: 40x5
]
;W[jg]C[kostuek [?\]: a lot of reading for overtime
killrbunny [3k\]: w has read this and will magically connect?
Huldioho [6k\]: ? 
wolokom [5k\]: i think so
bbred [3k\]: all has been read already
Huldioho [6k\]: i predicted it, 
Huldioho [6k\]: everybody said, noo very alive
Huldioho [6k\]: ^^
kostuek [?\]: you have a gift
bbred [3k\]: sandbagger gift
Huldioho [6k\]: my rank does not agree
OddKibitz [2d\]: I will not play you even Huldioho
OddKibitz [2d\]: You kibitz too strongly.
rollstory [1d\]: k13 is a tough move..i am not sure howto answer
hfdtd [1d\]: L14 now.
Huldioho [6k\]: l14
rollstory [1d\]: l14  l13
bbred [3k\]: h10 ish, this is sparta!!!
killrbunny [3k\]: How about L13 for b?
kostuek [?\]: b prob counts to see if the risk is worth it
Huldioho [6k\]: l14, l13, m13
bbred [3k\]: he has the time to count
killrbunny [3k\]: Counting?  Isn't that a foul?
Wizardry [4d\]: i think it will be l14 m13
bbred [3k\]: for a 3k yes
kostuek [?\]: some people believe in counting
USGO1 [-\]: B entering last 10m of BT
hfdtd [1d\]: L14, M13, L12
Wizardry [4d\]: then white is out
wolokom [5k\]: b time?
Orc [?\]: K14 then what is next move for what?
Mendieta [8k\]: doesn't L4 work for b?
Fredda [6d\]: l14 m13 l13 m12 l12 m11 m10 l11 k11 k10 
hfdtd [1d\]: sorry: L14, L13, M14
Fredda [6d\]: l14 m13 j13 
Fredda [6d\]: maybe something like that
Fredda [6d\]: l14 m13 k12 
]
;B[kf]C[hfdtd [1d\]: Live seems not so easy here for White.
dopingg [11k\]: w dead
Mendieta [8k\]: b did it
]
;W[lg]C[Mendieta [8k\]: l13 ?
Ardziuna [1k\]: J13
Epsilion [4k\]: n13?
Wizardry [4d\]: please don't spam nonsense suggestions 
Epsilion [4k\]: or j11
killrbunny [3k\]: Any high dan be kind enough to explain what's going on here to us kyus players?
Epsilion [4k\]: hey wizard
Fredda [6d\]: b trying to kill w
killrbunny [3k\]: lol
Epsilion [4k\]: if u can't be nice, then gtfo
killrbunny [3k\]: but, how could w think he can escape?
Epsilion [4k\]: :)
Fredda [6d\]: its not so simple to capture
Ardziuna [1k\]: does J13 kill?
darkronin [1d?\]: He counts on atari giving him sente to play on center eye
Fredda [6d\]: j13 maybe, but def not clear
Orc [?\]: the result might be the N8 group dies
killrbunny [3k\]: so, w can connect out?
Fredda [6d\]: w hope so
Tichu [6d?\]: w should exchange t15 soon it's huge
Huldioho [6k\]: j13
]
;B[ig]C[Ardziuna [1k\]: for b could be enough to make left group stronge and press white central
kostuek [?\]: can L10 hold the wave?
Fredda [6d\]: j13 is first feeling when the brute force seq doesn't work
Fuseques [-\]: but now k12 works no?
USGO1 [-\]: w down to 4/40
Mendieta [8k\]: what would be brute force Fredda?
Fredda [6d\]: L13
zima [1k\]: what is your feeling now?
Fuseques [-\]: k12 l13 m12 
]
;W[lh]C[hfdtd [1d\]: My feeling calls for K11 now.
Fredda [6d\]: k11 would die
Mendieta [8k\]: ah... I thought it would work as good as j13
Fredda [6d\]: k12 felt like correct
darkronin [1d?\]: What if b try to use dark side of the Force? 
critter [1k\]: then b have to wear helmet
Huldioho [6k\]: that would lead to a 6 game match
Mendieta [8k\]: m10 to block w's going out?
Fredda [6d\]: yeah
Fredda [6d\]: b might be considering something like k11 also
wolokom [5k\]: b could alsodie
]
;B[ji]C[killrbunny [3k\]: point for Fredda!
Mendieta [8k\]: nice call Fredda
YoungPro [-\]: i don't like w :D
YoungPro [-\]: not happy
USGO1 [-\]: deep intake of breath from w
Fredda [6d\]: m12 should have been k12
Huldioho [6k\]: w still a chance if q14 dies?
Fredda [6d\]: but well, maybe still hoepless
hfdtd [1d\]: K12 now for a second eye there?
rollstory [1d\]: k11 is all or nothing
]
;W[jh]C[Orc [?\]: Q10 for white?
groobiest: w can play T15 at any time to make life, right?
]
;B[ih]C[Fuseques [-\]: ah white ok
Fuseques [-\]: m11 now
]
;W[li]C[USGO1 [-\]: headshake from w
]
;B[lj]
;W[ki]C[Epsilion [4k\]: l13 lol
hfdtd [1d\]: But he lives.
cekalo [1k\]: omg
Fredda [6d\]: sneaky
]
;B[ij]C[Epsilion [4k\]: oh
killrbunny [3k\]: w knew all this long ago?
]
;W[kg]C[Archimed [5k\]: IT'S ... ALIVE !
a1328 [3k\]: hard to kill
Raidzu [1k\]: this is madness
Tlina2 [?\]: Amazing
]
;B[iq]C[groobiest: i like it
Tichu [6d?\]: t15 missing :(
kostuek [?\]: life is painfull sometimes
darkronin [1d?\]: T 15 did not make an eye
Mendieta [8k\]: attack center for profit now?
killrbunny [3k\]: Meanwhile... back at the rest of the board...
USGO1 [-\]: more headshaking from w
]
;W[ip]C[Mendieta [8k\]: b did it good chasing one and chasing the other to get profit
Fuseques [-\]: is he headshaking about t15? :P
groobiest: he'll give himself a headache
hfdtd [1d\]: But Black gained points and safety for his groups.
]
;B[hp]C[Mendieta [8k\]: however it looks like w is ahead.
]
;W[jq]
;B[im]C[dopingg [11k\]: w isnt in front now
hfdtd [1d\]: C7 is now the big point.
]
;W[hl]C[a1328 [3k\]: looking for H9
rollstory [1d\]: if b gets c7 b is very fine
killrbunny [3k\]: w has points on the left, and a few on top, but  almost none elsewhere?
]
;B[gn]
;W[io]C[wolokom [5k\]: and b??
rollstory [1d\]: j5 nice
]
;B[hm]C[dopingg [11k\]: n7 living?
killrbunny [3k\]: I count b ahead a bit (but I am *very* bad at counting), and there is lotsa play left...
USGO1 [-\]: w down to 2/40
Orc [?\]: white should play Q4 earily
]
;W[gl]
;B[hq]C[hfdtd [1d\]: Black H3 is very big now.
killrbunny [3k\]: how about b4?
kostuek [?\]: b seems to have nice endgame
]
;W[fp]
;B[gp]C[Huldioho [6k\]: g10 pretty sente
]
;W[op]
;B[oo]C[killrbunny [3k\]: whoa!
]
;W[on]
;B[pp]C[morrs [?\]: wht p6 looks like an eye in sente
]
;W[eq]
;B[er]
;W[ep]C[hfdtd [1d\]: Pitty, that Q4 was not playd.
]
;B[gr]C[Tichu [6d?\]: b4
cekalo [1k\]: b17
Ardziuna [1k\]: h6 
]
;W[gm]C[feda [4d\]: h10 
Tichu [6d?\]: if upper left then b16
]
;B[hn]C[cekalo [1k\]: b17
]
;W[jr]C[dopingg [11k\]: e6
]
;B[fm]C[Epsilion [4k\]: wb s6 b
cedric [1k\]: b17 b15
]
;W[fl]C[rollstory [1d\]: c7 still possible?
rollstory [1d\]: bassically that is what they are fighting over..right?
]
;B[bo]C[wolokom [5k\]: very sharp 
]
;W[bn]C[hfdtd [1d\]: That is the soft play.
]
;B[cm]C[hfdtd [1d\]: Not that.
rollstory [1d\]: or maybe not so soft
wolokom [5k\]: soft?
]
;W[bp]
;B[dm]C[dopingg [11k\]: killing n7
hfdtd [1d\]: B5 seemed like soft endgame.
Wizardry [4d\]: b?
]
;W[en]C[Tichu [6d?\]: c7 losing move imo
]
;B[em]C[Gigot [1k\]: Did black messed up?
dogbert [3d\]: not if b sente connect
groobiest: j8 is a weakness?
Epsilion [4k\]: b trying for a big kill??
Alife361 [5k?\]: cut via j8-k9
Tichu [6d?\]: b4 was sente and then b16
]
;W[fn]C[feda [4d\]: a5
Ardziuna [1k\]: w crushed
Gigot [1k\]: ohoh
]
;B[ao]C[Gigot [1k\]: C4
hfdtd [1d\]: Last fight.
feda [4d\]: over
cekalo [1k\]: omg
feda [4d\]: w lost 
cekalo [1k\]: whats going on
dopingg [11k\]: that looks funny
rollstory [1d\]: w died
dogbert [3d\]: ouch
]
;W[an]C[Ardziuna [1k\]: now b can cut w with j8 
]
;B[cp]
;W[do]C[odnihs [-\]: w didn't die
]
;B[bm]C[cekalo [1k\]: that must hurt
]
;W[ap]C[Ardziuna [1k\]: it is all about J8
]
;B[bo]C[dopingg [11k\]: omg
feda [4d\]: how can 7d miss this kind of reading
Mendieta [8k\]: w dead
killrbunny [3k\]: time pressure
Gigot [1k\]: Pro stress
Utraman1k [-\]: its not that he missed it
Utraman1k [-\]: its cuz hes behind 
]
;W[am]C[Utraman1k [-\]: he wanted to give it a try
First [1k\]: play it out please
ama [2k\]: it is ko
Gigot [1k\]: Which ko?
]
;B[al]
;W[ao]
;B[bl]
;W[bq]C[ama [2k\]: b3 b2 a2 
]
;B[br]C[odnihs [-\]: this is ko now
]
;W[ar]C[cekalo [1k\]: no ko
Tlina2 [?\]: b1 ?
killrbunny [3k\]: my nead hurts!
]
;B[cr]C[boomm [2d?\]: b1c2
Gigot [1k\]: many steps
cekalo [1k\]: b won
aaaau [1d\]: w ded
Epsilion [4k\]: f5
Mendieta [8k\]: w dead
ama [2k\]: b1 
peakoil [1d\]: w duhd
USGO1 [-\]: white resigns
USGO5 [-\]: thanks usgo1
dogbert [3d\]: neat
Tlina2 [?\]: impressive
USGO1 [-\]: thanks for watching!
dopingg [11k\]: y are all so "nervig"
Mendieta [8k\]: outstanding
NinjaBoots [?\]: good game xD
Mendieta [8k\]: awesome
First [1k\]: this is the power of america
])
