(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[4th AGA Pro Qual Finals Elimination round; Daniel Gourdeau (W) - Andrew Lu (B)]PW[Daniel Gourdeau]PB[Andrew Lu]WR[6d]BR[7d]DT[2016-01-09]EV[4th AGA Pro Qual Finals Elimination round ]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Garlock]C[PlaySlow [6k?\]: isnt tournament over?
PlaySlow [6k?\]: Eric got pro?
]RE[B+5.50]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]C[USGO1 [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/news/2016/01/eric-lui-wins-aga-pro-tourney-to-become-latest-us-professional/
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;B[pp]C[USGO1 [-\]: Lu and Gourdeau battle for third place
USGO1 [-\]: Yu and Chiu will compete for fifth on board 2
AnotDrunk [3k?\]: does Andrew have a known KGS account?
]
;W[co]
;B[oc]
;W[qn]C[USGO2 [-\]: You can find the latest results and game records on the AGA website: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2015
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;B[nq]
;W[rp]
;B[qm]
;W[pm]
;B[ql]C[dinocc [6k?\]: Is that joseki ?
darkronin [1k?\]: yes
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;W[pn]C[darkronin [1k?\]: it's a surprise move, same idea as R8 directly
dinocc [6k?\]: K thanks darkronin :)
darkronin [1k?\]: np :)
Falcon89 [5k\]: happens often in hi dan games
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;B[qq]C[dinocc [6k?\]: I gotta goback learn more joseki 
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;W[pl]C[JeansebL [3d\]: q8 ?!
poh: q8 old fashioned
darkronin [1k?\]: maybe it's all a publicity stunt
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;B[qj]C[poh: this joseki is easy, the more recent var the more wide w jumps
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;W[pk]
;B[pj]
;W[qk]
;B[rk]
;W[rl]
;B[rm]
;W[sl]
;B[ri]
;W[rn]C[JeansebL [3d\]: it just reverted :p
poh: and this var is japanese, even if the joseki is regarded as korean by some people
Egg [11k\]: north or south ?
Falcon89 [5k\]: haha
Euphony [3k\]: funny egg
poh: north of japan
]
;B[de]
;W[ce]C[poh: avalanche?
Dom [6d\]: i dont understand this, are they playing for what? i mean wasnt this tournament to become pro?
odnihs [-\]: they play for a seed for next year's tournament
sanguine [4k\]: This is the battle for 3rd place.
sanguine [4k\]: 3rd place will get seeded into next year's tournament, but 4th place wont.
poh: Probably dom wonders why the podioum got odd steps to get to the top...
]
;B[cf]
;W[cd]
;B[dg]
;W[fc]
;B[ck]
;W[dq]
;B[kq]
;W[mc]
;B[kc]
;W[me]C[JeansebL [3d\]: Dom...
Fuseques [-\]: n17 seems bad
JeansebL [3d\]: 3rd place gets a spot for next year
JeansebL [3d\]: other places are for honnor, and better chance to be invited later
]
;B[hc]
;W[ke]
;B[eb]
;W[fb]C[poh: am I the only one who found h17 a bit strange?
YZ1509 [4d\]: what is going on, who lost and why?
Fuseques [-\]: no
JeansebL [3d\]: who lost what?
YZ1509 [4d\]: oh did Noh lose..didn't noh there were elections in korea
Fuseques [-\]: is e18 really a thing?
FGo [3k\]: e18 seems much stranger to me
Reflection [-\]: h17 is just get a base i think
poh: b is going astray
]
;B[dd]C[poh: l15 was about attacking w...
poh: instead of being under pressure
]
;W[ec]C[poh: even if b got a slice of ul I think w gained on top
JeansebL [3d\]: d16 wasted all the aji :(
huggy [3k\]: this cant end well for b
Reflection [-\]: g15?
poh: no idea what is passing trough b's mind
Fuseques [-\]: i think d16 was sort of all the aji..
Egg [11k\]: what is wrong with h15 ?
highhand [4k\]: b wanted trade with sente, no?
JeansebL [3d\]: well for now maybe, but later black might want to e17 ...
JeansebL [3d\]: now that corner is rock solid...
Fuseques [-\]: don't think there were many scenarios in which e17 could work.. now b gets b14 atleast
Fuseques [-\]: e18 to begin with was very questionable imo
Egg [11k\]: dunno, even b14 is gote
poh: b lost like 10 points here
]
;B[cc]
;W[bc]C[JeansebL [3d\]: maybe black got confused and imagined he had a stone at d14 
]
;B[cb]
;W[bb]
;B[bf]
;W[ad]C[GoPostal [2d\]: nothing weird in this sequence me thinks
highhand [4k\]: b got sente now w solid d15 group
YZ1509 [4d\]: black is playing a really smart game, throw 6 stones at your opponents and let him wonder why
GoPostal [2d\]: e18 to prevent w from protecting c17 cut, and after b gets c17 b gets the good yose he now got
FGo [3k\]: should do something for h17 now
Reflection [-\]: f3 could be big
Egg [11k\]: I give up, h15 must be a very bad move for black since he doesn't play it
poh: h15 is not bad... but is sad
FGo [3k\]: well b probably is looking for a good alternative, h15 does not put much pressure on w
highhand [4k\]: b not got time for f3, w f15 needs to be prevented
highhand [4k\]: b g15?
Fuseques [-\]: tenuki seems reasonablew
poh: imo f18 is much more game affecting than b14, b lost quite a bit with that idea
Fuseques [-\]: too painful meh
YZ1509 [4d\]: ok, when we are doing the utter nonsense game, you must continue that strategy and play m16
Fuseques [-\]: but also too painful to respond
]
;B[id]C[highhand [4k\]: any dans want to join my rengo game n get attacked by partner in the game?
]
;W[if]C[poh: as b I will start getting drunk
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;B[ge]
;W[fe]C[holynec [3d?\]: Haro my fwends, I am horinec. The horrible necktie. Pleased to meet you.
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;B[ff]C[Falcon89 [5k\]: hello mr necktie
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;W[ef]C[bert [?\]: f16 
joeseki [3k\]: white would love to see F16
bert [?\]: why?
]
;B[ee]
;W[fd]
;B[gf]
;W[eg]C[JeansebL [3d\]: I wonder if this cut is too much...
JeansebL [3d\]: looks a bit overplay?
bert [?\]: depends on whether w will insist on it
huggy [3k\]: if the cut works b's troubles get much worse
]
;B[df]
;W[eh]
;B[dh]
;W[gh]C[pierresneb [-\]: do you see coordinates on the board? how do I turn that on? Pls help. Thx.
]
;B[hg]C[sestir [2d\]: File > Settings
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;W[ei]C[pierresneb [-\]: i use KGO Go Server Client v3.5.20
zlkvx [-\]: ctrl+L
pierresneb [-\]: Ah, works. Gracias!
JeansebL [3d\]: I guess since b had to go back to d14 a some point, it was ok
]
;B[ig]
;W[cj]
;B[bj]C[Lsugyen [7d\]: de nada
GoPostal [2d\]: ctrl-L also works
pierresneb [-\]: merci aussi
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;W[jg]
;B[ii]C[ofbusy [-\]: i think i prefer w here
JeansebL [3d\]: I don't know... he has 2 weak groups :(
GoPostal [2d\]: I like b
pierresneb [-\]: w 2 thin groups.... b is easier
JeansebL [3d\]: Although I want w to win, I have to say I prefer black :(
GoPostal [2d\]: whats going on, why did all 3 of my accounts get demoted over night?
]
;W[gd]
;B[he]
;W[jh]
;B[dj]C[GoPostal [2d\]: d10, very nice move
Falcon89 [5k\]: you forget to put stamps on them
alienist [5k\]: another rank adjustment
GoPostal [2d\]: problem is, I havent seen other 3dans get demoted
darkronin [1k?\]: i lost my 1d? too, postal :(
]
;W[fk]C[bert [?\]: i guess i must feel lucky then
darkronin [1k?\]: haha
Trevoke [?\]: I lost my "!" now it's a "?"
DarkAvatar [6d?\]: play games, get your rank back :)
darkronin [1k?\]: darkavatar :D
GoPostal [2d\]: darkavatar, all 3 of my accounts are heavy, and dont feelike making a 4th
pierresneb [-\]: b n13?
]
;B[hj]
;W[gi]C[GoPostal [2d\]: which empty triangle is best?
H16 [3d\]: How comes Aaron vs Eric Lui were not Bo5?
darkronin [1k?\]: just connect
GoPostal [2d\]: h16, they didnt have time for it
GoPostal [2d\]: and thats the serious answer
]
;B[ih]C[bert [?\]: yup, next year i'll tell them i'd watch the games but i don't have time for it
hyperbeam7 [-\]: lol
]
;W[gl]
;B[kj]C[H16 [3d\]: He? So by agreement they played only bo3? That's weird
hyperbeam7 [-\]: there was no agreement
ofbusy [-\]: this 2 weak group thing doesnt seem so good for w indeed
]
;W[ik]C[TyTaLuS [1d\]: how did the final ended?
hyperbeam7 [-\]: 2-0
Falcon89 [5k\]: bo3 or bo5 was set in the tourny rule depending on the time available-USGO
TyTaLuS [1d\]: dem
]
;B[hk]
;W[hl]C[TyTaLuS [1d\]: was best of 3?
]
;B[ji]
;W[lh]C[hyperbeam7 [-\]: ya
TyTaLuS [1d\]: ty
Falcon89 [5k\]: ya Eric won 2 so he is the new pro
hyperbeam7 [-\]: ya
]
;B[jl]C[H16 [3d\]: Whose time available?
pierresneb [-\]: what does a "pro" mean? they get paid salary of some sort?
Trevoke [?\]: They can participate in pro tournaments
pierresneb [-\]: i c. if one doesn't get better, life won't be easy. Look at those tennis players ranked 101+.
ofbusy [-\]: k7 is local shape i think
]
;W[pf]C[pierresneb [-\]: still, as long as passion burns...
]
;B[rf]
;W[mp]C[JeansebL [3d\]: waow, good exchange XD
DrStraw [-\]: Is Eric Lui the oldest to make AGA pro? I remember playing him 14 years ago and he was a teenager then.
JeansebL [3d\]: twenty something I believe
DrStraw [-\]: he must be in his late 20s by now
JeansebL [3d\]: I think so yes
kmr [2d\]: i heard25 but may be wrong
ofbusy [-\]: that doesnt add up ^^
]
;B[mq]C[DrStraw [-\]: well he was on the cover of an AGA journal in about 1999 as a younger 3d
]
;W[il]
;B[jm]C[ofbusy [-\]: k3 can be played maybe
]
;W[iq]
;B[hn]C[Trevoke [?\]: Sounds like there's room for a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Liu
Trevoke [?\]: 'cause right now "Andy_Liu" is some other dude, which is a shame
Trevoke [?\]: Oh sorry. Completely misread who you were talking about
Trevoke [?\]: Though still no wikipedia page
YZ1509 [4d\]: we should give designationnumbers to go players, and ask them state your rank and designationnumber
Trevoke [?\]: I can see it now. "Oh, he's a 6P? What's the P for?" "Well, it used to be for Professional but now it's for Prisoner."
]
;W[em]
;B[eq]C[tadanobu [9k\]: You are Number 6.
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;W[dp]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: No idon't want to be Mr. Pink
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;B[dr]C[Trevoke [?\]: It's easy for you to say, you're Mr. White!
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;W[cr]
;B[gq]C[USGO2 [-\]: Be sure to check out the short (2-4-minute) video game highlights on the Official AGA YouTube channel (user/USGOWeb). 
USGO2 [-\]: Use this playlist to see them all: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqpN3-2FP-kK76a1Eet50HLq_1vZheSwv
YZ1509 [4d\]: And in the background you will sting sing: So lonely...
Trevoke [?\]: Hey, USGO2 - when are these games going to be streamed on gaming.youtube.com ? I heard one was streamed and even had English commentary, but I missed it! It's a pretty great platform to spread Go love
TuLy [3k\]: so who is become a new pro? o.O sorry I didn't notice that
YZ1509 [4d\]: Nobody here
TuLy [3k\]: ty
aefaefaef: can i be pro
Falcon89 [5k\]: maybe
DrStraw [-\]: you can be pro or con, depending on your point of view
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;W[gp]C[pierresneb [-\]: Pros have their brain structures altered. We laymen can never attain that.
FGo [3k\]: right, you also need genetic adjustments for that
pierresneb [-\]: That's why I find it amusing to see amateurs "teaching go" LOL
aefaefaef: what rank is pro
MMXVI [3k\]: there are amas of pro level
a1328 [3k\]: H3?
DrStraw [-\]: How are colors chosen for these games?  Is it nigiri on the first and then alternating?
aefaefaef: f4
Trevoke [?\]: pierres - some amateurs are excellent teachers, you shouldn't dismiss them prematurely.
pierresneb [-\]: If they have had formal training in their earlier life, yes. But KGS dans teaching? come on, be real.
kmr [2d\]: draw color for each round, thats rules says.However rules says Bo5 in final, and it was chnged to Bo3.....
Trevoke [?\]: Pierre - I suggest you ask about shygost at some point.
DrStraw [-\]: no, the rules say B0# and B05 only if time permits
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;B[hq]C[pierresneb [-\]: noted. 
USGO2 [-\]: we had technical and logistical difficulties setting up the video streaming, and could use some more volunteers.
Maslov [2d\]: N4 no good
]
;W[hp]
;B[ip]C[a1328 [3k\]: nice cutto
JeansebL [3d\]: Next year just invite me ^^ I'd be glad to help !
ofbusy [-\]: i dont see w s idea here
UVP [?\]: moyo with j8?
YZ1509 [4d\]: well, we come from the right and go to the left, and then sir lancelot, sir Robin and i will jump out of the rabbit
kmr [2d\]: yes DrStraw you are right, however there was some inconsistance there, for example table still says "best of 5" :) - that mislead me.
DrStraw [-\]: last year it was Bo5 I seem to remember, becuase earlier rounds finished quicker.  I think it should be B05 regardless
JeansebL [3d\]: yeah, that rule is really wierd
a1328 [3k\]: K4 possible?
UVP [?\]: w K4 b J5 w K3 b L5 w H2 -can w survive?
YZ1509 [4d\]: but the manager of the hotel said; Does it take long to go
kmr [2d\]: i agree, however beside one game when Eric Lui made some bad choices in fuseki and it was hard to catch up then (he still lost only by 0,5) he proved to be best of field.I think he would still win, probably with clean score in Bo5 final.
DrStraw [-\]: they set it up to allow for b05 and if other round finish early then they can play one game instead of two on the last two days
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes eric to win over aaron, isn't it
]
;W[jp]
;B[io]
;W[jq]C[Trevoke [?\]: Yes, I think it's odd to allow for 2-1 to become a win if "there's no time for Bo5".. It seems like the system might be gamed. 
a1328 [3k\]: someone said there are 3 chance for winning point in game
calahan: it was 2-0
YZ1509 [4d\]: don't trust someone
pierresneb [-\]: w is cornered. if b handles this decently, game over
UVP [?\]: l5 h2 f3 j2
Trevoke [?\]: Yeah, it's like 1509-4d said, "they" always lie.
Horibe [1d\]: it was Aaron's failure to close out the early rounds that prevented the best of 5
Horibe [1d\]: certainly was not Eric's fault
FGo [3k\]: f5 catches?
ofbusy [-\]: if w doesnt end up being caught in geta that would be good
BreizhI [2k\]: f4 g5 f6 do the job Fgo
YZ1509 [4d\]: ??
YZ1509 [4d\]: 2k-sequence aren't always correct
BreizhI [2k\]: hm ?
Cruciatus [2k\]: the key is at right side nor left bottom
BreizhI [2k\]: or right atari at g6
BreizhI [2k\]: sry :p
YZ1509 [4d\]: rather f5 e5 e4 next to capture the g3 stones
USGO1 [-\]: and we're back
USGO1 [-\]: flaky hotel wireless
UVP [?\]: =)
pierresneb [-\]: if b gets territory around g2 and let w k3 group escape with 0 points, I believe b is very good.
Dovery [-\]: g3 dies
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes that's why black is reading if he can play f2 at this stage
jwc [-\]: f5?
YZ1509 [4d\]: f5 directly seems to fail too
EricBackus [3k\]: how?
jwc [-\]: aims at d6
YZ1509 [4d\]: f5 g5
Dovery [-\]: f5 fail
EricBackus [3k\]: Ah, thanks, I see it now
jwc [-\]: f5 g5 f6
YZ1509 [4d\]: f4 e4 g6
Dovery [-\]: dies
YZ1509 [4d\]: so there isn't a geta on g4 stones and white would love to capture g3
sanguine [4k\]: f5 g5 f6 g6 and B fails.
Dovery [-\]: ...
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;B[ep]C[jwc [-\]: f5 g5 g6 f4 e4 e5 f6 f3 e6 
]
;W[go]C[UVP [?\]: ...
kcharris12 [1d\]: b has l4 no?
YZ1509 [4d\]: l4 k5 l5 j6 h5 g6 ?
UVP [?\]: bad for b?
Maslov [2d\]: M m5?
kcharris12 [1d\]: had without g5
YZ1509 [4d\]: can't say it's bad, but no conclusive clean capture
pierresneb [-\]: b difficult; at best ko, likely
kcharris12 [1d\]: l4 k5 g6
Maslov [2d\]: F2 first
Cruciatus [2k\]: nope
]
;B[kp]C[UVP [?\]: f5 would be better, than g5 for w
]
;W[jo]
;B[jn]
;W[ko]
;B[fm]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes, and instead of f5 or g5, i was wondering to play l4 for white firstly
UVP [?\]: yeah
a1328 [3k\]: ho ya ya
JeansebL [3d\]: nice move
YZ1509 [4d\]: anyhow i am to tired to read it all...it's all fuzzy
Maslov [2d\]: )
YZ1509 [4d\]: whoever gets m6 wins the game
UVP [?\]: there are so many critical points that i can't tell
UVP [?\]: fuzzy indeed
]
;W[fn]C[jwc [-\]: e6
UVP [?\]: e5
]
;B[el]C[PAPANINJA [4k\]: relevant name
JeansebL [3d\]: hmm w giving up half?
JeansebL [3d\]: to kill bottom?
YZ1509 [4d\]: 26 people managed to censor someone already
YZ1509 [4d\]: actually kgs software should censor all guests by default
Marlboro [2k\]: ...
Fuseques [-\]: a guest has more chances of saying something right than a 4d
JeansebL [3d\]: hmm, great cut by black
YZ1509 [4d\]: and if they fail to register within 15s they can play go, and should be banned permenantly 
Muttley [2k\]: He has gone to suck somewhere else
FGo [3k\]: thx
YZ1509 [4d\]: thx mutt
KoyoToya [-\]: Somebody ban him
kmr [2d\]: too late already banned ;)
KoyoToya [-\]: Thanks mutt
]
;W[gm]C[Cruciatus [2k\]: suck pls do not troll
bert [?\]: he'll be back, of course
Muttley [2k\]: Shame, he had a lot to say for himself
Muttley [2k\]: heh, probably
Muttley [2k\]: and then he'll get banned again
MMXVI [3k\]: moments of self-realisation
YZ1509 [4d\]: so white drops a bamboo for the g3 stones?
bert [?\]: i dont even see a way to save that bamboo
USGO1 [-\]: w has 5m left
JeansebL [3d\]: w has to give up g4 
YZ1509 [4d\]: but dropping the bamboo isn't bad white leads to my count
]
;B[gn]
;W[fl]
;B[fo]
;W[eo]
;B[fp]
;W[er]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: and thus black doesn't take the bait
royu [4d\]: hard for w now
]
;B[ho]C[JeansebL [3d\]: I think w gained here
YZ1509 [4d\]: well white m6 now feels like a winner
UVP [?\]: yeah, good for w
YZ1509 [4d\]: maybe n4 m6 
royu [4d\]: if you look at move 95 position, w was better then
YZ1509 [4d\]: m4 n6 ^^
pierresneb [-\]: b c7 smells sente
JeansebL [3d\]: I count w ahead by about 5 points
pierresneb [-\]: m6 has no points
]
;W[lo]C[UVP [?\]: overplay?
]
;B[kr]C[JeansebL [3d\]: yeah roy, maybe g3 for w96 was better
royu [4d\]: b o14 after? 
JeansebL [3d\]: royu*
YZ1509 [4d\]: well m5 and m8 don't look to bad either
JeansebL [3d\]: but still he gained compaired to his position a bit later :p
royu [4d\]: maybe n13 later
]
;W[ll]
;B[nd]
;W[lc]
;B[kd]C[JeansebL [3d\]: o16 seems questionable ...
royu [4d\]: yeah i don't like o16 m17 exchange
pierresneb [-\]: w remains with 2 thin groups; have to pay
peakoil [1d\]: b down on points so he wants to attack
royu [4d\]: now w o14 possibly
YZ1509 [4d\]: the entire game is black plays questionable moves, and white reads carefully to avoid the possible traps 
YZ1509 [4d\]: by the way things went so far, white should win
]
;W[ie]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: w may not have defended correctly
YZ1509 [4d\]: sure bluetable says it all: Go is difficult :-)
royu [4d\]: maybe m15 here
UVP [?\]: k14
]
;B[hd]
;W[ne]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: right white is linking up his stones
]
;B[je]
;W[kf]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: r17 feels weak now
]
;B[ng]C[UVP [?\]: payment for overplay
USGO1 [-\]: b ot starts
lokulo: b? you mean w?
DrStraw [-\]: who is attacking whom?  gets interesting is W cuts at K9
]
;W[mj]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: no white might throw in the probe at r17 soon
royu [4d\]: i think b failed pretty bad here
JeansebL [3d\]: k9 p12 miai
]
;B[ni]C[JeansebL [3d\]: b is in trouble it seems
peakoil [1d\]: b wants p15 but can he survive k9 cut?
royu [4d\]: w n10 maybe a mistake
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes i thought white n11 instead
kcharris12 [1d\]: w m10 seems to fix
Tinkerball [3d\]: maybe a probe at r17 first would have been better?
]
;W[mi]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: so white has to come back for this patch now
UVP [?\]: r17 good
]
;B[ld]C[royu [4d\]: possibly to m16 yet? 
royu [4d\]: yea
]
;W[md]
;B[oe]C[USGO1 [-\]: w ot starts
]
;W[nf]C[DrStraw [-\]: what is Byoyomi?
kcharris12 [1d\]: taking l14 seemed better
YZ1509 [4d\]: a minute per move
]
;B[be]
;W[bd]
;B[of]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: and recount b p14 ...can it be enough?
]
;W[jk]C[peakoil [1d\]: here it is
UVP [?\]: wow
YZ1509 [4d\]: w f2 feels huge
Justin9202 [7k\]: hey didnt know andrew lu was back again
]
;B[kk]
;W[kl]C[ofbusy [-\]: w is so brutal ^^
Justin9202 [7k\]: wow such an intense game
peakoil [1d\]: how can b live?
YZ1509 [4d\]: sure with w j15 white saw already various sente to blacks groups
YoungPro [-\]: something like k18
USGO1 [-\]: b 4/40
YoungPro [-\]: but looks like dead
YoungPro [-\]: more likely
kcharris12 [1d\]: b should have thought that through before p14
YoungPro [-\]: m18 n18 k18 
YoungPro [-\]: and ko or sometihng like that
YZ1509 [4d\]: no isn't dead
Justin9202 [7k\]: dont worry
Justin9202 [7k\]: there is always something
Justin9202 [7k\]: you just gotta find that something
]
;B[jd]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: but white getting f2 next in sente takes the game
USGO1 [-\]: w 4/40
USGO1 [-\]: w 3/40
YoungPro [-\]: yeah seems alive
Justin9202 [7k\]: told you 
Justin9202 [7k\]: there is always something
Justin9202 [7k\]: you just gotta find it
YoungPro [-\]: i mean its not like its dead
YoungPro [-\]: i just don't like to live
peakoil [1d\]: lol Justin. Sometimes there's nothing.
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;W[fr]C[Justin9202 [7k\]: i dont believe in there beign nothing peakoil^_^
Justin9202 [7k\]: the game is only lost when you accept defeat
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;B[gr]C[peakoil [1d\]: pretty soon there will be no oil. ;)
Cruciatus [2k\]: what about w k18
Justin9202 [7k\]: if you dont accept defeat you will find the correct move to win 
YZ1509 [4d\]: j2
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;W[mg]C[Rodtank [2d\]: save j2 for ko threat unless you fear black playing reverse sente there
]
;B[jf]
;W[nh]
;B[og]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah b j2 isn't big enough yet
]
;W[jr]
;B[gp]
;W[oh]
;B[ph]C[jasch [1k\]: why w didn't play k14 himself?
UVP [?\]: g4 was big for w
UVP [?\]: well, could be
Justin9202 [7k\]: saving two stones is often considered a slow move right
YZ1509 [4d\]: white wasn't 100% certain of it being a full sente
]
;W[ob]
;B[pb]C[peakoil [1d\]: se crazy
YZ1509 [4d\]: and then timepressure takes it's toll
]
;W[nc]
;B[od]C[jasch [1k\]: well i will accept time pressure as an answer ;)
YZ1509 [4d\]: but white doesn't mind losing a couple of points due to the gote for black
peakoil [1d\]: p5?
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;W[bl]
;B[cl]
;W[bm]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes b8 is huge
UVP [?\]: seems so. But j15 loss was sad
YZ1509 [4d\]: protecting the d6 blot
Justin9202 [7k\]: I wish my instructor was here to comentate on the game and help me conceptualize the moves easier
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;B[ej]
;W[fj]
;B[cm]
;W[cn]
;B[oo]
;W[np]
;B[op]C[TuLy [3k\]: s3
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;W[nn]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: due to b k14 black has fought himself back into the game
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;B[gb]C[Justin9202 [7k\]: told you guys before
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;W[pa]C[Justin9202 [7k\]: there is always something
jasch [1k\]: yeah black is ahead in my opinion
Justin9202 [7k\]: just gotta find it
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;B[qb]C[ofbusy [-\]: b has the lead
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;W[ki]
;B[fa]
;W[db]
;B[jj]C[DrStraw [-\]: no way. SE says he is 60 behind   :)
YZ1509 [4d\]: so was n10 the game losing move?
Justin9202 [7k\]: SE isnt always right
UVP [?\]: count yourself
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;W[rr]
;B[rq]
;W[sq]
;B[qr]C[ZaLord [6k\]: Steve, you're back?
DrStraw [-\]: now THAT's funny
Justin9202 [7k\]: nore is it accurate til all borders are closed off
DrStraw [-\]: never been away
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;W[lr]
;B[lq]
;W[ks]
;B[mr]
;W[ls]
;B[ms]
;W[js]
;B[no]C[Justin9202 [7k\]: for instace you said se says b is losing by 60 well now it said he was winning by 1 just a moment ago
]
;W[mo]
;B[rs]
;W[sr]
;B[or]
;W[bk]
;B[ci]C[ofbusy [-\]: hm that s lot of reduction i m gonna recount
ofbusy [-\]: later ^^
]
;W[kb]
;B[jb]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: l18 still gives white the edge
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;W[mb]
;B[sk]
;W[ja]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: it's going to end within 5 points
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;B[ia]
;W[ka]
;B[hb]
;W[sm]C[jasch [1k\]: white caught up a bit with the last 10 to 15 moves
peakoil [1d\]: se malfunctioning today.
jasch [1k\]: ge got almost all big moves
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;B[oi]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: o10
Justin9202 [7k\]: no SE isnt human
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;W[nj]
;B[on]C[Justin9202 [7k\]: SE doesnt understand the concepts of fighting like humans
peakoil [1d\]: se drank too much
Justin9202 [7k\]: so very inaccurate till all borders are closed off
USGO1 [-\]: w 3/40
]
;W[om]
;B[lk]
;W[ml]
;B[dm]C[UVP [?\]: w will win
]
;W[dn]
;B[ek]C[Justin9202 [7k\]: unless black wins lol
UVP [?\]: lol right
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;W[ea]C[DrStraw [-\]: very close on the board but W gets a big komi
UVP [?\]: well i don't think w will make some huge miscalc
]
;B[qa]C[raynolimit [3d\]: r19
Justin9202 [7k\]: true
Justin9202 [7k\]: but still it isnt over till its over
gru [1k\]: cant connect
Ikra [3k\]: funny
USGO1 [-\]: w 2/40
YZ1509 [4d\]: i come on W+2.5 now
]
;W[ak]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: r4 is big
]
;B[oa]
;W[nb]C[jasch [1k\]: i agree YZ
gru [1k\]: m15
jasch [1k\]: counted the same
]
;B[mh]C[raynolimit [3d\]: f13
calahan: B+ ~7.5
]
;W[nh]
;B[le]
;W[lf]C[jasch [1k\]: p10 
]
;B[fg]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes plenty of one point sente, but the order might be important
Justin9202 [7k\]: order is very important
]
;W[aj]
;B[ai]C[jasch [1k\]: ok p13 was actually about 3 points
Justin9202 [7k\]: if black doenst get the right ones he is lost
YZ1509 [4d\]: this f13 is excellent, e6 won't be a point now
Justin9202 [7k\]: for instance a big one wil be a15
]
;W[di]
;B[fh]
;W[fi]
;B[af]C[jasch [1k\]: ??
UVP [?\]: didn't see all that (
YZ1509 [4d\]: so black might stil have made a stounding win
jasch [1k\]: a14 really?
]
;W[ga]
;B[qo]C[peakoil [1d\]: without a14 w could c12
]
;W[ro]C[Kiren [?\]: why a14
jasch [1k\]: ah i see
jasch [1k\]: b had to defend b12 
YZ1509 [4d\]: the scribe can't keep up
jasch [1k\]: so a14 was best defense
YZ1509 [4d\]: in byoyomi it can go so fast
jasch [1k\]: but timing was strange
]
;B[km]
;W[lm]
;B[kn]
;W[ln]
;B[oj]C[TuLy [3k\]: b won
jasch [1k\]: its damn close!
]
;W[ok]
;B[mk]C[Justin9202 [7k\]: I told you  there is always something
peakoil [1d\]: is there something for w now Justin?
Justin9202 [7k\]: yes 
DrStraw [-\]: right, but is there a fat lady in this tournament?
]
;W[hs]C[JeansebL [3d\]: XD?
]
;B[gs]C[Justin9202 [7k\]: not sure, dont think its an opera house
]
;W[hr]C[Justin9202 [7k\]: would be cool though
]
;B[nk]C[JeansebL [3d\]: is this some expression I don't know lol
]
;W[nl]C[lokulo: f13 instead of e19 was a win
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;B[lj]
;W[li]
;B[es]C[DrStraw [-\]: it's not over till the fat lady sings
]
;W[ds]
;B[fs]C[peakoil [1d\]: b+1.5
TuLy [3k\]: better yose
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes, black stole the game in yose
calahan: don't trust se
DrStraw [-\]: did you rememvber komi?
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes aga rules and se don't combine well
peakoil [1d\]: what is komi?
timarma [1k\]: How much is komi?
jasch [1k\]: 7,5
peakoil [1d\]: hmm
YZ1509 [4d\]: read the rules under options
peakoil [1d\]: se seems right now
pipikani: w should be winning
calahan: no
calahan: b+ 3.5
jasch [1k\]: are they counting right now @ USGO?
peakoil [1d\]: o19?
calahan: filling libs, probably too fast for the recorder
YZ1509 [4d\]: they surely made Chris sweat
UVP [?\]: a14 is a host misclick or was in in game?
USGO2 [-\]: they're playing so fast, we couldn't keep up
USGO1 [-\]: they started playing really fast here
UVP [?\]: ok ty
USGO2 [-\]: they are counting now
DrStraw [-\]: there are only 2 ponts lett to play - who got them?
USGO1 [-\]: b b 4.5
calahan: without a14 w has b12 b11 c12 a12 a13 c10 d9 
peakoil [1d\]: o19?
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes i know Chris, thx for the relay, we are excited to know who won in the end by how many
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;W[na]
;B[gg]C[USGO2 [-\]: he's getting one of the players to help finish it
lokulo: thanks usgo1
USGO1 [-\]: b by 4.5 so he's seeded for next year
USGO1 [-\]: thanks for watching!
UVP [?\]: thanks you host
ofbusy [-\]: thanks
peakoil [1d\]: thanks
jasch [1k\]: thx for the transmission :)
USGO1 [-\]: hope you enjoyed our coverage!
Alife361 [5k?\]: ty
YZ1509 [4d\]: aha hi there Dennis
jasch [1k\]: gj
YoungPro [-\]: what means he seeded for next year?
YoungPro [-\]: who is the second aga pro?
jasch [1k\]: none
jasch [1k\]: only one per year
UVP [?\]: only one pro?
calahan: next time wireful internet and video feeds pls
UVP [?\]: wow.
UVP [?\]: j15 so sad
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;W[sp]
;B[pa]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes it seems white lost those stones over nothing, while it would have been his sente
USGO1 [-\]: big ko fight but b wins the kp
YoungPro [-\]: wasnt they two proffesionals per year?
USGO2 [-\]: only the first year
USGO2 [-\]: one each year thereafter
DrStraw [-\]: is there a mechanism for an AGA pro to be promoted?
YZ1509 [4d\]: well they can't all be youngpro, mostly old farts here, isn't it Steve ^^
USGO2 [-\]: these are all great questions for journal@usgo.org, or president@usgo.org
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