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RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[4th AGA Pro Qual Finals Elimination round Daniel Gourdeau (W) - Aaron Ye (B)]PW[Daniel Gourdeau]PB[Aaron Ye]WR[6d]BR[7d]DT[2016-01-08]EV[4th AGA Pro Qual Finals Elimination round ]RO[2BG3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Garlock]RE[B+Resign]
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;B[fc]C[asdk [3k\]: go lu
USGO5 [-\]: You can find the latest results and game records on the AGA website: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2015
killrducky [2d?\]: I guess this is daniel vs aaron
JeansebL [3d\]: yes
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;W[fe]C[bolbi [-\]: you're right, killrducky, Daniel is white
USGO1 [-\]: welcome!
USGO1 [-\]: the winner of this game goes on to play Eric Lui this afternoon in the finals
USGO1 [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/news/2016/01/aga-pro-tourney-report-capturing-races-tengen-heavy-komi/
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;B[hc]C[Falcon89 [5k\]: thanks Chris
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;W[eg]C[leachy [2k\]: oh open with taisha....
fastjack69 [3k\]: What is the significance of the other game, if the finals is Lui vs the winner of this game?
leachy [2k\]: i didn't understand this comment about 'heavy komi'
leachy [2k\]: specifically why that demanded tengen be played
dang [?\]: komi is 7.5
leachy [2k\]: yes but don't AGA rules give same result as chinese counting?
leachy [2k\]: in any case if they don't, it's hard to see why tengen or thereabouts has to be played
killrducky [2d?\]: She is not confident to win normally so she played aggressive opening
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;B[cf]
;W[ch]C[Falcon89 [5k\]: She?
killrducky [2d?\]: Presumably she would do the same in chinese rules
rats [2d?\]: oh, in the mood for taisha it looks like
killrducky [2d?\]: The video is about sarah vs andrew
USGO5 [-\]: you're speaking about Sarah and Andrew's 3rd game?
killrducky [2d?\]: Not this game
Falcon89 [5k\]: oh ok, thx ducky
USGO5 [-\]: When we ask Sarah about it, she said because the komi is so large and the regular opening have been so well studied, she wanted to do something fun and hopefully give her a little more advantage
cekalo [1k\]: who is winning?
rats [2d?\]: lol
USGO5 [-\]: She did in fact beat Andrew in their 2nd game with her tengen opening
leachy [2k\]: true
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;B[be]
;W[bd]C[cekalo [1k\]: b is dead
rats [2d?\]: lol
Lukan [7d?\]: joseki
rats [2d?\]: b11 connects out in one joseki variation if you have studied
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;W[ac]C[cekalo [1k\]: p3 is strange
Direktsaft: Isn't Daniel 6d and Aaron 7d
Hellblom [4k\]: Is there a reason these games are shown in demo mode so you cant go back?
NguyenN [9k\]: they are 6d or 6p :v
YoungPro [-\]: because they are live..
YoungPro [-\]: you can replay if you go to options...
humblelife [-\]: clone or view offline to go back
YoungPro [-\]: yep
peachtree [2d?\]: because this way only one game recorder needed
peachtree [2d?\]: kgs doesn't have any other options
Hellblom [4k\]: Ok
NguyenN [9k\]: I see
bert [?\]: don't let in the clone
cekalo [1k\]: hey bert
Hellblom [4k\]: ah now i see, very easy
leachy [2k\]: does c11 work?
bleen [1d\]: for b?
listerine: a chunk of stones to let go this early
peachtree [2d?\]: b can escape
leachy [2k\]: yes for b....b12 looks pretty cramped
listerine: b tennuki
peachtree [2d?\]: b will not tenuki
rats [2d?\]: many joseki from here
bleen [1d\]: guess b has to b12
USGO5 [-\]: typo.. we'll fix
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;B[bh]C[cekalo [1k\]: just c11
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;W[hd]C[Direktsaft: no
bert [?\]: d12 was not playable for b here?
bleen [1d\]: get another group?
bleen [1d\]: hard to believe
Direktsaft: c13 b13 c10 c11 d11 b11 d10 b10 j16 
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;B[ic]C[cekalo [1k\]: c11
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;W[bi]
;B[ci]C[Direktsaft: (Miyasaka Shinji - Honinbo Shusai)
cekalo [1k\]: w played wrong
leachy [2k\]: oh well considering the speed of play, i'm sure they know what they're doing here
peachtree [2d?\]: looks good for black
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;W[di]
;B[cj]C[leachy [2k\]: i agree....locally and especially with both r16 and d4
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;W[bg]C[leachy [2k\]: even USGO agrees, upping black by a rank and demoting white one
Direktsaft: ko
Direktsaft: bit early for that
peachtree [2d?\]: w has one threat
USGO5 [-\]: We have some short (2-4-minute) video highlights of the games on the Official AGA YouTube channel (user/USGOWeb). Use this playlist to see them all: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqpN3-2FP-kK76a1Eet50HLq_1vZheSwv
bleen [1d\]: it looks a bit all in here
bleen [1d\]: w so limited all over the board
leachy [2k\]: what's the ko here? d12 a12 c13 ?
Direktsaft: no
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;B[dh]
;W[ah]C[peachtree [2d?\]: d12 a12 e12 d13 c13 e14 
cekalo [1k\]: ko
leachy [2k\]: right
Zonked [3d\]: b gets outside ponnuki
Zonked [3d\]: no ko
peachtree [2d?\]: but w gets g18
cekalo [1k\]: yes ko
gogonuts [4d\]: should go a little better for b
leachy [2k\]: yeah threat at g17/18
willsmooth: groovy
Hellblom [4k\]: Whos is the favourite in this game?
gogonuts [4d\]: e12 only move
Direktsaft: b
Zonked [3d\]: my bad reading says no ko. w dunt have to fight it
gogonuts [4d\]: sure its ko
Direktsaft: e12 doesn't work
leachy [2k\]: not really much of a ko....b e12 d13 c13 e14 b12 g17/18 c12 g18/17
Zonked [3d\]: well there is the throwin ko but it's bad
Zonked [3d\]: so no ko will be played
gogonuts [4d\]: e12 d13 c13 and w must e14 
gogonuts [4d\]: leachy, what do you mean
gogonuts [4d\]: that is ko
Direktsaft: w can b12
leachy [2k\]: well it's not a ko fight that lasts long
gogonuts [4d\]: no cant
gogonuts [4d\]: b breaks through
Direktsaft: you'd think, but not so
leachy [2k\]: now i see the meaning of the h16 j17 exchange which seems bad.....now after g17 and g18, there isn't a cut at g16
willsmooth: any barmaids attending this game ?
Direktsaft: f14, bamboo
HowToGo: now i think w win without KO
peachtree [2d?\]: b still gets through direksaft
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;B[eh]
;W[ck]C[gogonuts [4d\]: bamboos not good enough
gogonuts [4d\]: this isnt good enough either
Zonked [3d\]: b can fight.  but all variations i read look bad for b
cekalo [1k\]: this is bad for b
Direktsaft: it is. instant 3 weak groups
Direktsaft: 2 for w, 1 for b
bert [?\]: a babbler, huh?
gogonuts [4d\]: i agree b chickened out
gogonuts [4d\]: pulling this age old variation out of the closet paid off for w
Zonked [3d\]: me still thinks b outside ponnuki was better than this
gogonuts [4d\]: d13 was the problem
leachy [2k\]: looks bad for black....those cutting stones at e15 not so heavy but a nuisance for black
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;B[gh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: check on josekipedia
gogonuts [4d\]: whats the move? h14?
Goprince [4d\]: move is tenuki
gogonuts [4d\]: really
Goprince [4d\]: never try to save those stones...
Goprince [4d\]: top right somewhere
gogonuts [4d\]: i'd rather save them :-)
Goprince [4d\]: seems no gain right now
leachy [2k\]: yeah i'd leave as aji and let black try and capture them or worry about floating e12 group
leachy [2k\]: either way it's not heavy for white now
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;W[if]C[Goprince [4d\]: :/
leachy [2k\]: might become so though
gogonuts [4d\]: letting b add a move was just too thick for b
Goprince [4d\]: saving feels bad
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe if w finds better conditions for sacrife later ...
JeansebL [3d\]: B not alive either....
leachy [2k\]: black needed 2 moves there though to surround it
gogonuts [4d\]: adding just 1 would make escape almost impossible
gogonuts [4d\]: what is ws next move if b j12?
gogonuts [4d\]: j12 l16 ?
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;B[ih]C[Zonked [3d\]: l14
Zonked [3d\]: better missio
Zonked [3d\]: better miai*
Goprince [4d\]: feels so awkward saving this...
gogonuts [4d\]: l14 is so common sense of you :-)
Goprince [4d\]: Yyyyyyy :(
jlm [1k\]: looks like b is going to get the upper hand on this chase. 
rapidos [1d\]: B G14 seems nice point  (because W 13 then WF12 then W cut does'nt work)
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;W[kf]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: ah yes, never play taisha against a stronger player
leachy [2k\]: w l14 l12 and i don't see where to play as w on upper side
Zonked [3d\]: leachy, oogeima
cekalo [1k\]: time for a tenuki
YZ1509 [4d\]: well white has no worries
leachy [2k\]: m17 you reckon?
Zonked [3d\]: yes
JeansebL [3d\]: So, there's something I don't understand, the final could be 4 games right? And the tournament is supposed to end tomorrow?
Goprince [4d\]: would be odd if b plays 3rd line
YZ1509 [4d\]:  just a small recommendation in colourful lettres
cekalo [1k\]: what is taisha?
jlm [1k\]: if b plays again in this directions, probably would m16
YZ1509 [4d\]: sensei.xmp.net
awesome [3k\]: large knights move
Zonked [3d\]: jeansbl, all previous matchups are included in the best of 5. i think
awesome [3k\]: f16 in this game
leachy [2k\]: seems like you give black the chance to pincer a little with an enclosure though
cekalo [1k\]: knight are strong
gogonuts [4d\]: how about k15 k14 l12 ?
critter [1k\]: w is very heavy in the middle, this does not look good
JeansebL [3d\]: Zonked, yes, Eric won a game, but it's best of 5, so it could still be 4 games...
YZ1509 [4d\]: game is in full balance
gogonuts [4d\]: agree
jlm [1k\]: b L12 is an option, too; setting up a tenuki when w plays L16 area
rats [2d?\]: the planets are in alignment
Dom [6d\]: both made many mistakes in this taisha...
gogonuts [4d\]: cant pick a side
kcharris12 [1d\]: b looks ahead
Zonked [3d\]: they could fit 2 games in one day.  if Eric wins both itll be over tomorrow
kcharris12 [1d\]: just looking at it locally
kmr [2d\]: up to E12 it was theory beside one switch of order of moves
rats [2d?\]: i don't understand why not black play b10 instead of e12
cekalo [1k\]: b is reading deep
gogonuts [4d\]: rats, that looks bad to me when w blcks the center
USGO5 [-\]: the final could be a best of 5 or best of 3 depending on time constraints... I believe we no longer have time for a best of 5
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;B[kh]C[JeansebL [3d\]: Wow that's sad
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;W[kd]C[rats [2d?\]: there are josekis where white blocks the center too, black is supposed to get out from under the side
USGO5 [-\]: indeed
leachy [2k\]: weirdest tournament format i've come across ever
awesome [3k\]: I would so like to take black here
gogonuts [4d\]: wow, that s a huge difference if you star one game down
gogonuts [4d\]: i mean best of 3 or 5
JeansebL [3d\]: It's kind of woerd for a tournament of this importance to decide the nature of the final on the spot at the end...
gogonuts [4d\]: were the conditions when it would be 3 or 5 determined beforehand?
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;B[nc]C[leachy [2k\]: if you are favoured and lose, you can always make it best of 7
YZ1509 [4d\]: white blocking towards the centre in sente would be disasterous for black, since white would play g4 next
USGO5 [-\]: yes... its written in the official rules
gogonuts [4d\]: well, then no complaints
kcharris12 [1d\]: o17 kinda nice
USGO5 [-\]: its too confusing to try and write all that on the results table
leachy [2k\]: maybe now you'd rather you didn't try and save, gogonuts?
leachy [2k\]: or this is ok?
gogonuts [4d\]: i thought L14 was too heavy
gogonuts [4d\]: but w still ok
jlm [1k\]: L12 and O17 look good to me. I think b has stabalized his slim lead
leachy [2k\]: o15 
gogonuts [4d\]: next move is an experts choice :-)
JeansebL [3d\]: Rule or not, it's really questionable. Not knowing the nature of the final before actually getting there is really wierd.
kmr [2d\]: white tricked black in taisha, if black would play correct move and qhole sequence after B11 white would be in very tough position
leachy [2k\]: i don't know if o15 helps white do something in the corner, but it certainly would appear to
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;W[ne]C[Zonked [3d\]: leachy wisest
leachy [2k\]: :)
Falcon89 [5k\]: haha way to go leachy
Zonked [3d\]: well.  it almost fits even tho it was autocorrect
YZ1509 [4d\]: m15
willsmooth: omg i guessed a move right
jlm [1k\]: so far, w is only running. no real pressure being applied to  G12 group, H17, or even the corner. 
leachy [2k\]: actually i can guess or figure out a lot of moves....and when i watch 9k i even find myself wondering what the difference is sometimes
gogonuts [4d\]: w prob very unsure about it himself :-)
kmr [2d\]: but L16.....this move looks very bad for me.I would really like to hear what LSD would say about that.
rats [2d?\]: l16 looks fine to me
YZ1509 [4d\]: well white had choosen e13
YZ1509 [4d\]: so he went for an immediate brawl
gogonuts [4d\]: L16 has some justification because b cant peep anymore at k15
sedgwick [?\]: This was the first point that comes to mind, but I would worry about b o13 working well for them
theolddan [2d\]: wonder if taisha outcome really bad for b?  W group very thin now ad w didnt really make any substantial points
leachy [2k\]: b o13 looks good
kecleon [2d\]: l16 is good shape, I think
kmr [2d\]: E13 was ok, one of possible popular options
rats [2d?\]: l16 gets power
gogonuts [4d\]: on shape, leachy is right
jlm [1k\]: y, L16 has a few merits. the trouble is that trying to save f15 may be a loosing bargain
PD6809 [19k\]: how much time do they get to make a move?
leachy [2k\]: on tactics, probably horribly wrong
gogonuts [4d\]: o13 is the big hat move :-)
Zonked [3d\]: meant to say e15 easiest use is to gain nice outside shape
awesome [3k\]: they have 90 moves divide between all moves
kecleon [2d\]: by the time w played l16 w had already invested too much to abandon, I think
awesome [3k\]: darn... 90 minutes to divide...
jlm [1k\]: o13 would be interesting. but these players seem to conservative this tourney for such gambles
theolddan [2d\]: or o 12 which is a lighter hat
theolddan [2d\]: more for summer
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;B[ng]C[gogonuts [4d\]: i think its good
awesome [3k\]: looks like 2k move
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
kecleon [2d\]: sometimes a 2k move can be good
theolddan [2d\]: looks like toot agrassive
awesome [3k\]: I know :)
theolddan [2d\]: too
leachy [2k\]: i'm more like 1k but ok
gogonuts [4d\]: it cant go bad imo
jlm [1k\]: gogonuts ... can i borrow your crystal ball?
Darchik [3d\]: Looks like o15 is beeing squeezed in a fist
gogonuts [4d\]: no
leachy [2k\]: this next move is a bit more difficult though
gogonuts [4d\]: i need it
willsmooth: yeah
jlm [1k\]: well, leachy has one too
jlm [1k\]: i'll borrow his
gogonuts [4d\]: leachy is prob stingy too
Falcon89 [5k\]: haha, go leachy
gogonuts [4d\]: with this o13 i see b ahead for the first time
leachy [2k\]: i think this one needs a big think
PD6809 [19k\]: how about f10?
gogonuts [4d\]: there is no counter, only coping measures
TyTaLuS [1d\]: n17?
YZ1509 [4d\]: how do you mean, black lost already 3 stones +komi is 10 secured points, the rest is just uncertain
awesome [3k\]: d10 is very strong so f10 is too close to strength
Zonked [3d\]: p17 for expensive settle
jlm [1k\]: i'm guessing w will have to make life now. hard to see where else to run. this will be painful
gogonuts [4d\]: uncertain is not the same as balancing out
testestest [1k\]: go go Gourdeau!
Zonked [3d\]: nvm never p17 just garbage
jlm [1k\]: i'm thinking start with an attachment of some sort, like N17 or N13
gogonuts [4d\]: its become a kind of quicksand position for w
Zonked [3d\]: maybe*
gogonuts [4d\]: struggle harder, sink faster
awesome [3k\]: maybe make some slow and awkward move, like come back to j16?
Burton [6k\]: w l 18?
gogonuts [4d\]: that could actually be good, awesome
YZ1509 [4d\]: nah white will play k18
Zonked [3d\]: sorry about all the typos, my fingers nearly froze of playing carpenter outdoors
gogonuts [4d\]: painful, but good :-)
jlm [1k\]: j16 has merits; basically makes 1 eye
awesome [3k\]: I am glad to hear!
YZ1509 [4d\]: but what must be done is q15
gogonuts [4d\]: because if b gets around to j16, ws shape is schmutz
jlm [1k\]: q15 leaves N15
YZ1509 [4d\]: then white can start using p17 and k18
Zonked [3d\]: b will cut it q15?
testestest [1k\]: p17 possible?
ofbusy [-\]: first intinct would be m12 but hmm
Zonked [3d\]: if*
YZ1509 [4d\]: p17 immediately..i think you just help black then
cekalo [1k\]: i searched for aaron ye on google and see that he is a little boy
YZ1509 [4d\]: on o15 moves often you see black reply q15 too
cekalo [1k\]: how old is he
embeck [4k\]: 14
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;W[kb]C[cekalo [1k\]: wow
SiaTex [4k\]: this is the semi final?
Burton [6k\]: my move lol
willsmooth: very well my friend
jlm [1k\]: L18 seems overly gutsy.
ofbusy [-\]: it really looks like 6k move ^^
USGO5 [-\]: yes, the winner of this match moves on to play Eric Lui in the finals
YZ1509 [4d\]: wonder what white will do after m17 connect? q15
gogonuts [4d\]: wwants to reverse his fortunes
Burton [6k\]: i think large knight jump right corner not that strong to fight well
gogonuts [4d\]: i think awesomes move was better
jlm [1k\]: maybe L18 is all about inducing M17, so w can cap it w/ m16 for eye space?
YZ1509 [4d\]: aha on m17 white intends k18 which is sente to the group..hmm
gogonuts [4d\]: i'd feel like peeping first
gogonuts [4d\]: m17 k17 j16 
cekalo [1k\]: peeping is the right thing here
gogonuts [4d\]: b first j16 then
leachy [2k\]:  m17 k16 and maybe black owes a move to live?
willsmooth: b trembling with fear
gogonuts [4d\]: which is the vital point
YZ1509 [4d\]: but b j16 doesn't that threaten a cut?
jlm [1k\]: b has c19 for some extra eye space
leachy [2k\]: oh silly me m17 k16 k18 fine for b
gogonuts [4d\]: i think b is happy
Burton [6k\]: w can contact the b o17 for sabaki
YZ1509 [4d\]: no he can't since it's black move now
gogonuts [4d\]: b might even start with j16
Burton [6k\]: later i am thinking
leachy [2k\]: yes burton, these are the first ideas for white....then he played l18
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes b j16 and maybe the narabe next
bert [?\]: j16 j15 i suppose
jlm [1k\]: i feel a powerful tesuji is coming
Burton [6k\]: well i suggested that w play l18 first
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;W[kc]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: so it's all your fault then
Burton [6k\]: lol maybe
cekalo [1k\]: b will die
Burton [6k\]: usually so in go
YZ1509 [4d\]: q15 here seems logical
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;B[ib]C[bert [?\]: lol
Burton [6k\]: w g 18?
jlm [1k\]: j18: this isn't the tesuji you are looking for
YZ1509 [4d\]: but black agrees with whites reading that it was sente to the group
bert [?\]: usgo is toying with us, again
gogonuts [4d\]: b decided J16 too risky ...
gogonuts [4d\]: too bad
Zonked [3d\]: does w need a painfull exchange like n13 before q15? so as to prevent getting cut? 
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe hes just too happy as it is
SiaTex [4k\]: h15 ?
jlm [1k\]: seems like this forces w j16 though...a kind of sente
leachy [2k\]: but if b could avoid this move and q15, was so big
cekalo [1k\]: w has to play j16
x0000 [-\]: c19 c18 sente for b
Zonked [3d\]: f16 have served their purpose
jlm [1k\]: y, c19 is helpful for b to live
Hobbes [1k\]: i've seen the aga page... still don't have a clue about what this match is... is it the final?
jlm [1k\]: when it becomes necessary to play it
DKOI [11k\]: Hobbes, semi-final
gogonuts [4d\]: zonked thats why i wanted to see b j16 first
embeck [4k\]: it is the last game of the semi final
leachy [2k\]: heh me too.....you need some sort of special training to interpret the tournament format
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes goognuts bert and me all wanted bj16
Hobbes [1k\]: oh lord, thx
awesome [3k\]: I think one must have 8d IQ or higher to understand go result pages
gogonuts [4d\]: i thought i had the format figured out
gogonuts [4d\]: but then i heard about the flexible best of 3/best of 5 finals :-)
jlm [1k\]: i guess m12 here, not j16
leachy [2k\]: probably you do....looking at the webpage with crosstable etc. doesn't quite help
cekalo [1k\]: what city is this played?
willsmooth: w+fall asleep
critter [1k\]: in each game, b play empty triangle
YZ1509 [4d\]: i wouldn't bother about resulttables, referees are nuts anyhow
jlm [1k\]: we've been told LA cekalo
YZ1509 [4d\]: it's the game that matter
Hobbes [1k\]: the funny thing is that I remembered from last year that the format was... convoluted let's say.... still when I got the page I was like "c'mon is this a joke?"
leachy [2k\]: i mean the aga page is terrible....the format looks like some ancient undeciphered writing system
YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah but they should have drawn more eyes and birds like the egyptians did
embeck [4k\]: :-)
kmr [2d\]: so Polish Champ has better page?
Zonked [3d\]: gogonuts. for finals they do intratournament elo ratings for players and every 50 difference counts as a win.
Hobbes [1k\]: they really outconvoluted me
PAPANINJA [4k\]: im glad im not the only one who gave up figuring it out
USGO5 [-\]: We are playing in the Hotel Normandie in downtown Los Angeles
bert [?\]: perhaps next year they will publish it in mayan script
jlm [1k\]: actually, w m16 also fixes a few structural defects
JeansebL [3d\]: this might help you guys, although it's not much better: https://goo.gl/SilZRJ
gogonuts [4d\]: zonked, i hope thats a joke
leachy [2k\]: then, bert, i can probably consult an appropriate dictionary 
YZ1509 [4d\]: let's hope so bert, that was at least understandable up to 2014 when the world ended
gogonuts [4d\]: cant ell for sur e:-)
YZ1509 [4d\]: can't elf or sir?
embeck [4k\]: I believe the net is:  winner of this game plays Eric in the finals. Eric will start with a one game advantage whether it is best of 3 or best of 5
DKOI [11k\]: one game advantage in best of 3 is a joke
DKOI [11k\]: It is not even close to be fair
JeansebL [3d\]: yeah, and it's pretty much confirmed that it wwill be a best of 3
YZ1509 [4d\]: he'd still be needing 2 wins then
embeck [4k\]: no joke...  the first game was played in round robin...so Eric has already beaten both of these players once
embeck [4k\]: I disagree DKOI
kecleon [2d\]: only sarah beat him, and she got out last round :(
YZ1509 [4d\]: the rules are so complex that any bribe of the referee will lead to drastic changes
gogonuts [4d\]: lets say it's a little random, but statistically fair
MMXVI [3k\]: do not talk of bribing the refs....
MMXVI [3k\]:                                                                               ...in public
gogonuts [4d\]: i think w should clean things up with p17
Goprince [4d\]: it will be a best of 3
Hobbes [1k\]: the rules are so complex that you don't need to bribe the ref, you can actually confuse him
MMXVI [3k\]: i want to play G18....
Goprince [4d\]: w too think to play
Zonked [3d\]: g18 won't happen
willsmooth: w taking a break to go shopping, will be back in a short while
Goprince [4d\]: and doesnt kill anyways
jlm [1k\]: h13 h12 m16 n17 j16 ... is that the right way to settle for w?
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;W[nf]C[Goprince [4d\]: h13 such a bad exgnece dont play unless you have to
TyTaLuS [1d\]: wow
TyTaLuS [1d\]: what a concesion
TyTaLuS [1d\]: nice shape tho
gogonuts [4d\]: that has to be a bad choice
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes , but m15 was still a blot
Slowmatch: Hobson's
gogonuts [4d\]: b p13
YZ1509 [4d\]: i would treat o13 now to be a light stone
gogonuts [4d\]: really
gogonuts [4d\]: not me :-)
Zonked [3d\]: i wouldn't
bleen [1d\]: rather take it as a wall
ofbusy [-\]: strangest idea
gogonuts [4d\]: its the guardian to the dungeon
]
;B[mg]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: black comes back for m15
Zonked [3d\]: i would nobi and thank my opponent for the exchange
gogonuts [4d\]: b sticking to the safe option again
gogonuts [4d\]: understandable in such an important game, but games can be lost that way too
Zonked [3d\]: b has a significant lead
gogonuts [4d\]: true
Goprince [4d\]: aiming at m15 seems nice
YZ1509 [4d\]: well it doesn't work immediately
gogonuts [4d\]: b n13 could make p17 nicer for w
conanhoye [10k?\]: Assuming black gets a wall and sente is the 5x5 approach best for the bottom right?
YZ1509 [4d\]: but with j16 there might be something
gogonuts [4d\]: conan, we have to wait and see
gogonuts [4d\]: just what we get at the top
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;W[oc]C[humblelife [-\]: w doesn't have much cash yet, so options still open. no need to go all in on a stratagey
Direktsaft: obvious move
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes playing a boshi at p5 isn't a bad for b
Zonked [3d\]: clamp
YZ1509 [4d\]: p17 is a must
]
;B[od]
;W[nd]C[Zonked [3d\]: f3 big if talking about tenukis
]
;B[pc]C[kecleon [2d\]: right side seems bigger, no?
]
;W[ob]
;B[nb]
;W[pb]C[Zonked [3d\]: obvious direction in bottom left. right side uncertain how you want to play it or. at least to me
]
;B[qb]C[Goprince [4d\]: q18 is bad exchange
]
;W[pe]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: now the game is even, both sides 3 captives
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;B[pd]
;W[qe]
;B[pg]
;W[rd]
;B[rc]
;W[oe]
;B[qc]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: right ^^
awesome [3k\]: aha
Goprince [4d\]: ah the troll
Zonked [3d\]: w play has been really bad here
Goprince [4d\]: :p
awesome [3k\]: but still bad
HiBeat [2k\]: at least it is w turn now
USGO1 [-\]: sorry; scribe error
Goprince [4d\]: not so bad playable
USGO1 [-\]: reminder that the winner here goes on to the final with eric lui this afternoon
ofbusy [-\]: that was hilarious usgo1 ^^
DKOI [11k\]: even this way, q13 makes p17 sequence really small for w in my opinion
Goprince [4d\]: w will show us r6
YZ1509 [4d\]: white has n17 now to secure his life quickly
YZ1509 [4d\]: so f3?
USGO1 [-\]: also we have 2 new video commentaries here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqpN3-2FP-kK76a1Eet50HLq_1vZheSwv
YZ1509 [4d\]: or k11 and j4?
willsmooth: anyone nicked zonked deserves utmost respect imo
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;W[rg]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: white is terribly patient
conanhoye [10k?\]: W n17, b n16 works right?
ofbusy [-\]: so, b approch bottom right now ?
kecleon [2d\]: maybe, but b needs to be careful not to give w a strong wall
Zonked [3d\]: still f3 before bottom right imo
kcharris12 [1d\]: how to stop w in sente
kecleon [2d\]: then n13 loses a lot of purpose
leachy [2k\]: r4 q6 p4 :))
Goprince [4d\]: b nees to be care full about next move
Goprince [4d\]: and use his center sotnes
YZ1509 [4d\]: n17 n18 m18 n16 n15 , that's the sequence for white conanhoye
YZ1509 [4d\]: after which black must be carefull not losing his stones as it would give two blue eyes to white
ofbusy [-\]: is r12 playable too, hm
kcharris12 [1d\]: s14
YZ1509 [4d\]: but someone could still sacrifice them all and say he look it's a rabbit
gogonuts [4d\]: j16 
Zonked [3d\]: r12 very gote tho?
kcharris12 [1d\]: s12 looks ok
YZ1509 [4d\]: no s12 is odd
sedgwick [?\]: j16 then j15 what is b aiming at?
YZ1509 [4d\]: white r12 without doubt
peachtree [2d?\]: even after the n17 stuff b can just connect right? 
gogonuts [4d\]: just asking
kmr [2d\]: S12 and how white counter?
YZ1509 [4d\]: take ponnuki
gogonuts [4d\]: the exchange is bad for ws shape
Goprince [4d\]:  b is going to tenuki but not easy to find where
YZ1509 [4d\]: or press black down over the 2nd line
kmr [2d\]: where are white 2 eyes of dragon?
power [1k\]: Hard for b to find proper move
YZ1509 [4d\]: n17 makes eyes quickly with my prior sequence
Zonked [3d\]: b spend lots of time.  can't come up with s good move on the right side so he plays f3
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;B[qi]C[kmr [2d\]: if white can live inside then blackshould tenuki i think
Goprince [4d\]: wow really...
power [1k\]: Yeah
Goprince [4d\]: instant r4
kcharris12 [1d\]: s14 tesuji
YZ1509 [4d\]: so this is only logical move
YZ1509 [4d\]: protects m12 cuttingpoint
Direktsaft: white has about 10 points on the board, b 17
Goprince [4d\]: game is so awkward for w afer j14... huge  error
YZ1509 [4d\]: + komi even game
kmr [2d\]: + sente
YZ1509 [4d\]: white to reduce black atsumi
peachtree [2d?\]: b is winning right now for sure
YZ1509 [4d\]: around g8 feels big
willsmooth: what's an atsumi ?
awesome [3k\]: thickness
Goprince [4d\]: lol nothing around g8 is big
YZ1509 [4d\]: sensei.xmp.net
Direktsaft: warm sea
peachtree [2d?\]: white still needs defense
kcharris12 [1d\]: i would r4
gogonuts [4d\]: "warm sea" is the literal translation?
Goprince [4d\]: r4 is finghintg spirit but risky
awesome [3k\]: thick warm tea rather
Goprince [4d\]: fighting
Direktsaft: it is one
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;W[id]C[gogonuts [4d\]: common sense prevailed
HiBeat [2k\]: save the group and lose the game...
]
;B[po]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: white must have read this to be sente
Zonked [3d\]: now bottom right more interesting than f3
DKOI [11k\]: Now B can start implementing the atsumi they have got
DKOI [11k\]: And they do :)
awesome [3k\]: but not sente because of c19?
kecleon [2d\]: q5 bigger than h17 group, maybe
HiBeat [2k\]: I would love to see w prove that was sente
kecleon [2d\]: so b can afford to ignore
Goprince [4d\]: he knows it wadnt sente
peachtree [2d?\]: w wasn't sente
kecleon [2d\]: oh well
peachtree [2d?\]: w was playing a move so he doesn't die
gogonuts [4d\]: smells like w p5
Direktsaft: just a safe eye and a safe connection
YZ1509 [4d\]: even if it is a full sente black could still ignore it for a while saying it's to small
kcharris12 [1d\]: sente is good to aim for but gote ok too
Goprince [4d\]: atach cut is hard when b has so many stones
Zonked [3d\]: this position is so horrible for w
kcharris12 [1d\]: could be worse, tenuki'd and died
Direktsaft: w has some peeps
Zonked [3d\]: don't even know how w can start convincing himself of territorial balance
testestest [1k\]: what if W try pincer here?
Hobbes [1k\]: repeat after me "I have BIG komi, I have BIG komi..."
Direktsaft: then w not 6d
peachtree [2d?\]: w doesn't have to believe he's ahead
peachtree [2d?\]: w has to play the move he thinks is his best chance to come back
Direktsaft: w isn't behind in points yet
awesome [3k\]: usually that doesn not last long when opponent has a big wall across the board
kcharris12 [1d\]: ah, when the other player is in the advantageos situation and you see a move that evens the playing field when the other player seems to not have made a mistake best to look again. Maybe take a step back and try to force an opportunity.
HiBeat [2k\]: w has to make the game very complicated and rely on superior reading
leachy [2k\]: I think best chance is to just take points and try and invade centre and somehow live
Goprince [4d\]: problem is  i guess he will be falling into byo mi soon
leachy [2k\]: a desperation strategy to be sure
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes white to win with a move like h12
awesome [3k\]: that would be fun
kcharris12 [1d\]: r3 seems ok
DKOI [11k\]: USGO, how much time has left for B and W?
kecleon [2d\]: 9p style here we go
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;W[qp]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: so he doesn't make his nozoki there
kcharris12 [1d\]: i wouldnt want to strengthen b
JeansebL [3d\]: just take the cash and make magic life later :p
YZ1509 [4d\]: but this black bucket is pretty warm, enough for tea for the entire audience
]
;B[qo]
;W[pp]
;B[oo]
;W[np]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: w playing trick?
rats [2d?\]: no
HiBeat [2k\]: is w digging his own grave?
kecleon [2d\]: this is joseki
YZ1509 [4d\]: no this is common joseki
leachy [2k\]: should have played r3i thought to avoid this kind of wall
kecleon [2d\]: bad choice, maybe, but joseki
Hobbes [1k\]: can't b push and push?
ofbusy [-\]: i think its ok
HiBeat [2k\]: Does the joseki take all teh B stones in the center into account?
power [1k\]: r11 should be at r10 acccording josekipedia
embeck [4k\]: I know not focus at this time...but w g18 doesn't kill?
kecleon [2d\]: no, because that's not how joseki works
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes the g8 zone is big
kecleon [2d\]: (to hibeat)
embeck [4k\]: result in seki?
humblelife [-\]: if b is ahead, he can get a bit overconcentrated. it will actually help
YZ1509 [4d\]: so white had no time to play s4
kecleon [2d\]: you need to choose the right joseki, joseki is only concerned with corner (usually_
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;B[mn]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: i bet if w count's yose before b he can get the game close
JeansebL [3d\]: w needs to be alive everywhere if he's to live in the middle later XD
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;W[ri]C[HiBeat [2k\]: well, given the wholdeboard position this joseki seems favourable for b
Hobbes [1k\]: w read my essay "How to master the 2nd line"
Muttley [2k\]: w will win because b will overestimate the centre instead of building at the bottom
Muttley [2k\]: weirdly, tis this is bigger
kecleon [2d\]: center seems smaller than it looks
kcharris12 [1d\]: how much does this threaten?
Muttley [2k\]: 23 points
awesome [3k\]: I think it looks bigger than it seems
Hobbes [1k\]: seems smaller than it looks... is this a moebious ring?
rats [2d?\]: looks smaller than it seems ;)
kecleon [2d\]: always
ofbusy [-\]: must ans
YZ1509 [4d\]: this is certainly the proper way to beat an aya bot
Muttley [2k\]: let w thicken b up wtih r10
kcharris12 [1d\]: answer with what?
Muttley [2k\]: but m4 is bigger :))
rats [2d?\]: but there is s14 aji
ofbusy [-\]: or m4 yes ^^
Muttley [2k\]: the thing is, w doesn't actually have a lot of cash
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;B[rj]C[Muttley [2k\]: so black can happily let w wash away the centre as dame for both and still win
darkronin [1k?\]: W has heavy komi
YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah having 20 komi is alot
ranyee [3k\]: why so much?
Muttley [2k\]: komi 7.5 according to the rules
YZ1509 [4d\]: because he needs it
TyTaLuS [1d\]: b should protect the center giving it up is a risky strategy
rats [2d?\]: lol, again with this heavy, in the future is there something wrong with earths gravitational pull??
Muttley [2k\]: no, its not risky
Muttley [2k\]: its inspired
Hobbes [1k\]: w top group is shown as definition of "inneficiency" in sensei's library
]
;W[fq]C[darkronin [1k?\]: It was one of the contestants word ^^''
Muttley [2k\]: h3 you munter
YZ1509 [4d\]: ok we have other corners to fight over
Muttley [2k\]: because you won't g4
kcharris12 [1d\]: w realises s11 small to continue
TyTaLuS [1d\]: w will play really agressive here
TyTaLuS [1d\]: maybe b should kick
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes on r12 black will connect
Muttley [2k\]: nooo, don't kick
Hobbes [1k\]: why not an high pincer?
Muttley [2k\]: there's no way to develop further for  b
gogonuts [4d\]: kick is bad
Hobbes [1k\]: j4 like?
gogonuts [4d\]: but might boshi
handle [3k\]: c6
darkronin [1k?\]: Kick is heavy
TyTaLuS [1d\]: seems like if you just c6 white will invade
kcharris12 [1d\]: d2 e2 
Zonked [3d\]: h4 for some ambition
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;B[lp]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: ?
Muttley [2k\]: trollolol
kcharris12 [1d\]: i dont understand this one
]
;W[fo]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: aya would do m4 too
darkronin [1k?\]: Oh, the famous 5-space pincer
gogonuts [4d\]: this is also fine
Hobbes [1k\]: tenuki is absurd, b is playing close to a strong group
TyTaLuS [1d\]: guess black is saying to w tri to kill me ...
Zonked [3d\]: dont like m4
Hobbes [1k\]: m4 will become dame, very bad imo
kcharris12 [1d\]: kick w now?
]
;B[dr]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: f6
gogonuts [4d\]: good choice
TyTaLuS [1d\]: c6 i guess
gogonuts [4d\]: staying away from thickness
TyTaLuS [1d\]: d6 seems to soft
Hobbes [1k\]: this is a good chance for w
gogonuts [4d\]: no its not
YZ1509 [4d\]: not really
gogonuts [4d\]: b d2 managed things
Zonked [3d\]: b totally breaking territorial balance.  forcing w to rush
power [1k\]: YZ, f6 instead of d2?
YZ1509 [4d\]: now it's pretty hard to make ahytnig from attacking the d4 corner
handle [3k\]: d6
kcharris12 [1d\]: l6 
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes i would have
Muttley [2k\]: k3
power [1k\]: What's the sequence?
rats [2d?\]: w needs a really great idea
YZ1509 [4d\]: just a probe move on white respons
Hobbes [1k\]: h11 m5 combo?
Muttley [2k\]: w can cut M4 since b responded to s11
Hobbes [1k\]: oh wait h11 miss the ladder-.-
YZ1509 [4d\]: f6 is some idea to sacrifice a stone there in attempt to link g12 towards n6
kcharris12 [1d\]: b4
gogonuts [4d\]: best chance for w now is to put something in bs tea
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;W[bo]C[Muttley [2k\]: lolbunnies
darkronin [1k?\]: Is this sente?
Muttley [2k\]: "shall I tenuki here?"
YZ1509 [4d\]: you could throw m6 in the tea
Hobbes [1k\]: w is officialy in "ayabot mode"
gogonuts [4d\]: sure b will answer
kcharris12 [1d\]: how?
gogonuts [4d\]: b5 is actually a good effort, but its so hard for w to create a chance
Hobbes [1k\]: tenuki here means "don't argue with a fool"
Muttley [2k\]: I still think k3, being patient, was better
gogonuts [4d\]: i think i would just d6
Goprince [4d\]: na b5 is nice
gogonuts [4d\]: yes, b5 is a good move
gogonuts [4d\]: its just that the position is so bad
YZ1509 [4d\]: c6
kecleon [2d\]: b5 is good for w, if fight spills into the center, then w is happy
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;B[en]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: w might get sente and strength
kecleon [2d\]: USGO1, how much time do they have left?
power [1k\]: yes USGO1 
dffgf: c3 now
gogonuts [4d\]: ah nice
kcharris12 [1d\]: w can make wall with c6?
]
;W[fn]
;B[cn]
;W[bn]C[dffgf: b still not alive yet
Muttley [2k\]: ko
kmr [2d\]: KO
]
;B[cl]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: does this work?
kcharris12 [1d\]: w d8
maggrig [1k\]: hi
VclubFates [1d?\]: c5 
power [1k\]: USGO1
Hobbes [1k\]: how silly m4 is looking by now?
kmr [2d\]: imagine M4 would be white stone
kecleon [2d\]: still reduces w's bottom, so not awful 
kcharris12 [1d\]: it seems ok
maggrig [1k\]: i feel like it would damage f3
kcharris12 [1d\]: yeh
power [1k\]: m4 will shine with j4 later
kecleon [2d\]: w still needs another move for f5 stones
Hobbes [1k\]: I still think m4 stinks, maybe it's me
kecleon [2d\]: if b didn't have m4, would be different
kcharris12 [1d\]: b wouldn't be fighting :D
rats [2d?\]: i don't think people are coing to dispute that claim
]
;W[do]C[dffgf: D5
Hobbes [1k\]: (who stinks, m4 is bad for sure aniway)
Zonked [3d\]: m4 is amashi. sort of. dont like it
kecleon [2d\]: amashi?
kmr [2d\]: rather keshi, amashi is name of strategy not move
kcharris12 [1d\]: b should have good response here
Zonked [3d\]: pushing territorial advantage and forcing opponent to attack to compensate
awesome [3k\]: senseis...
kecleon [2d\]: ah
power [1k\]: Type senseis.xmp.net in Chrome, press Tab and search for amashi
kcharris12 [1d\]: a15 tesuji maybe
power [1k\]: Very simple
maggrig [1k\]: yes but it's good to ask on chat so everybody can see the answer
dffgf: black shape is awkard here
kecleon [2d\]: don't have to be rude, power
USGO1 [-\]: w has 5m left
maggrig [1k\]: asking was fair
kecleon [2d\]: thnx maggrig :)
stone33 [?\]: USGO1, how I can see standings of the tournamentÉ
kecleon [2d\]: anyone have ideas for b's net move
power [1k\]: Ok sorry. "Amashi is a type of whole-game, territory-oriented strategy."
odnihs [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2015
Dantek [1d\]: true, thx maggrig for asking
stone33 [?\]: thanks
kcharris12 [1d\]: e4
vasdvasdv [7k\]: Tough decision for black!
]
;B[co]
;W[cp]
;B[cq]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: b4 c3 e4
gogonuts [4d\]: d6 was better than e6/c6 after all
gogonuts [4d\]: and c8 was a mistake
kcharris12 [1d\]: b had to spend extra move no?
ofbusy [-\]: w cant connect, no?
]
;W[cm]C[vasdvasdv [7k\]: Connect loses to hane?
]
;B[dn]
;W[dl]C[huggy [3k\]: w can kawasaki now
]
;B[bp]
;W[jp]C[cekalo [1k\]: who is winning?
kcharris12 [1d\]: b
kecleon [2d\]: fight seems excellent result for w
sykta: kawasaki ?
sykta: motorbike tesuji ?
power [1k\]: Motorcycle formation
gogonuts [4d\]: i didnt see that
ofbusy [-\]: hm b s corner is better that expected so i think its pretty even result
]
;B[hq]C[kecleon [2d\]: true
huggy [3k\]: kawasaki is like amashi on 2 wheels
sykta: they both have 2 corners but i cant w development
kcharris12 [1d\]: h3 really harsh
]
;W[gp]
;B[jq]
;W[ip]
;B[kq]C[maggrig [1k\]: I'd play K7
huggy [3k\]: so everybody said that m4 was bad?
awesome [3k\]: I like it
kcharris12 [1d\]: k5 too far too high
HiBeat [2k\]: I never
ofbusy [-\]: no, like it
kecleon [2d\]: oof haha no, one guy said it was bad and a lot of people disagreed
power [1k\]: w 33
]
;W[jm]C[maggrig [1k\]: I called it :)
tr3bl [1k?\]: h6
wither [3k\]: 6dan is 1k strong
ofbusy [-\]: m8-like seems logic here
kcharris12 [1d\]: s12
Butcher [1k\]: easy game for b i think
ofbusy [-\]: or m7 which connects, too
hume [4k\]: +1 butch
Slowmatch: By the way, which is who? The headers disagree.
awesome [3k\]: m7 looks nice
USGO1 [-\]: b enters ot
power [1k\]: m7 nice
kcharris12 [1d\]: b's line of stones looks a little thin
KoyoToya [-\]: M7
USGO1 [-\]: b has 4/40
awesome [3k\]: yes, is h12 a serious threat?
DKOI [11k\]: wither, take into account that W has almost no time left
maggrig [1k\]: I agree with M7
Slowmatch: Sorry, my mistake
JeansebL [3d\]: what about white?
USGO1 [-\]: b has 3/40
]
;B[fg]C[awesome [3k\]: maybe this is my answer
]
;W[oh]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: b thought so too
hume [4k\]: K12 i prefer
Hobbes [1k\]: did I say that m4 would have ended up as dame? oh yes I said it...
kcharris12 [1d\]: s12 ok
USGO1 [-\]: b has 2/40
KoyoToya [-\]: How much time does w have
]
;B[rf]C[DKOI [11k\]: less than 5 m
DKOI [11k\]: have no idea about B
awesome [3k\]: after that he has his whole life to regret j14
KoyoToya [-\]: Well then b has even less time than w
KoyoToya [-\]: B has 2 byo periods left
]
;W[qh]C[USGO5 [-\]: white has lots of time ~17 mins
kcharris12 [1d\]: w daring
DKOI [11k\]: B s14 is so weird
]
;B[ph]C[Hobbes [1k\]: b lost his mind imo+
ofbusy [-\]: is this about killing the big group
KoyoToya [-\]: Yeah
KoyoToya [-\]: B trying to kill
power [1k\]: In byoyomi
vasdvasdv [7k\]: Black wants to kill top white group
KoyoToya [-\]: Trololol
awesome [3k\]: I thought w could live with n17?
power [1k\]: At the Pro Qual finals
TyTaLuS [1d\]: well
TyTaLuS [1d\]: b dosent lose that much
kcharris12 [1d\]: n17 about 1 eye sente
TyTaLuS [1d\]: if he gets some late game i think he might win even if he cant kill
DKOI [11k\]: I don't think B can kill anything there
kcharris12 [1d\]: w cut from r12 or w dead
DKOI [11k\]: r 14 works as well
darkronin [1k?\]: B is 7d ^^'''
power [1k\]: Close game, isn't it?
DKOI [11k\]: darkronin, W is 6d :)
awesome [3k\]: no it's in LA
Butcher [1k\]: LA is big
]
;W[pi]
;B[og]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: oo
Butcher [1k\]: is this sente?
GoPostal [3d\]: b claims he can kill
awesome [3k\]: seems more sente than it looks
maggrig [1k\]: s15
kcharris12 [1d\]: w should take :D
]
;W[qj]
;B[re]C[sedgwick [?\]: b thinks he can kill white?  Anyway w must r10
maggrig [1k\]: :o
ofbusy [-\]: b seems quite sure he s gonna kill either group
]
;W[ld]C[Butcher [1k\]: now its getting interesting
awesome [3k\]: how strange of b to give up those certain points
Hobbes [1k\]: amazing how b summoned a loss out of a won game
]
;B[lb]C[maggrig [1k\]: Game wasn't won and isn't lost :)
YoungPro [-\]: why loss?
TyTaLuS [1d\]: not ruse is a loss even if he cant kill
Hobbes [1k\]: we'll see
TyTaLuS [1d\]: tho is certanly possible 
kcharris12 [1d\]: b decided to kill at s14
sedgwick [?\]: m12 a problem for B?
]
;W[qf]
;B[qg]
;W[sf]
;B[sd]C[awesome [3k\]: now is :)
ofbusy [-\]: that seems a lot of risk, hmm
jotty [?\]: lol
sedgwick [?\]: yes, these moves were implied before m12 :)
KoyoToya [-\]: I wish i was there
KoyoToya [-\]: This would be an intense room
awesome [3k\]: I would kibitz loudly and be thrown out
ofbusy [-\]: ^^
]
;W[je]C[kcharris12 [1d\]: m13
]
;B[jg]C[questhe [2k\]: W lives matter
power [1k\]: lol
huggy [3k\]: lol
Butcher [1k\]: b seems confident in killing
Und5r [1k\]: lel
DKOI [11k\]: BTW, B wall in the center has no eyes :)
gohiontach [6k\]: not funny
DKOI [11k\]: I mean, so far
r0n1n [2d\]: b's wall has approx 20 liberties, and still some directions, so it's not the most killable thing right now DKOI
kcharris12 [1d\]: m13 so b cant m14
OddKibitz [2d\]: b low on points
Wizardry [4d\]: just k17
Hobbes [1k\]: b should colapse
darkronin [1k?\]: *tips hat at "not the most killable thing" concept*
]
;W[jc]C[JeansebL [3d\]: k13 was sente for w... should play ite to live instead of k15 I think...
Direktsaft: m15
Direktsaft: was the move, not m14
]
;B[rk]C[Dantek [1d\]: yay
Butcher [1k\]: plan b
cekalo [1k\]: omg w is gonna die
kcharris12 [1d\]: w alive in best way
Direktsaft: the best way is sente
darkronin [1k?\]: Don't worry w has heavy komi
Goprince [4d\]: w just has to lvie everywhere
]
;W[pl]
;B[qk]C[Butcher [1k\]: how old is aaron ye?
Direktsaft: 13
embeck [4k\]: 14
]
;W[pk]
;B[oj]C[Wizardry [4d\]: too old to still be playing board games all the time
cekalo [1k\]: ko
cekalo [1k\]: i smell ko
awesome [3k\]: ye olde aaron
power [1k\]: awesome
TyTaLuS [1d\]: w cant play a ko
Wizardry [4d\]: r8?
Goprince [4d\]: jus connect
]
;W[pj]C[power [1k\]: w connects in sente
]
;B[ro]C[OddKibitz [2d\]: owch
Butcher [1k\]: many fake eyes for w
PAPANINJA [4k\]: plan c?
OddKibitz [2d\]: very smart move
Goprince [4d\]: not really
Goprince [4d\]: jsut anwser
Goprince [4d\]: then t11 is snete vs s9
OddKibitz [2d\]: w dies if etenuki
GoPostal [3d\]: w might die anyways
cekalo [1k\]: s5 is a mistake
Goprince [4d\]: s3 i guess is best
]
;W[nj]C[GoPostal [3d\]: r4 wont atleast die, but that reduction will ruin white
]
;B[rq]C[Butcher [1k\]: now w is panic
ThiGar [4k\]: has the new pro been selected yet?
GoPostal [3d\]: and after sente reduction, b gets back to harassing q10
Jother [5k?\]: err, where did w played?
Falcon89 [5k\]: not yet
JeansebL [3d\]: aiming at m12 ?
GoPostal [3d\]: jother, p10, as that group was guaranteed to die without another move
USGO5 [-\]: the winner of this match will play Eric Lui to determine the next new Pro
awesome [3k\]: kill the wall :)
]
;W[ji]C[GoPostal [3d\]: awesome, ur good
ThiGar [4k\]: thx a lot, USGO5
Butcher [1k\]: important match
Jother [5k?\]: o i see
jwc [-\]: attack!
ofbusy [-\]: hm b is thin
]
;B[ej]C[GoPostal [3d\]: maybe s3 was naive, should ahve attack o10 first
JeansebL [3d\]: omg
Wizardry [4d\]: wow
kmr [2d\]: E10 really?
USGO1 [-\]: they're really smacking the stones dwn now
Butcher [1k\]: maybe b reads deep
]
;W[jh]C[ofbusy [-\]: game went nuts ...
Wizardry [4d\]: and w is not really dead yet 
YZ1509 [4d\]: i warned ya...white will try to find something like h12 kiri to grab this game
]
;B[pr]C[Wizardry [4d\]: he can play like s2
awesome [3k\]: !
USGO1 [-\]: w now in ot too
USGO1 [-\]: 5/40
YZ1509 [4d\]: more killer rabbits
Butcher [1k\]: exchange
awesome [3k\]: who is ahead?
]
;W[hj]C[GoPostal [3d\]: they sure managed to make this game entertaining
questhe [2k\]:  go postal   *heh*
JeansebL [3d\]: dat exchange lol
cekalo [1k\]: r7
gogonuts [4d\]: too entertaining from bs perspective
]
;B[ei]C[Ikra [3k\]: unbelivble
]
;W[dk]
;B[ef]C[OddKibitz [2d\]: I belieb
ofbusy [-\]: xchange seems good for w
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes black tried to simplify the game with d2
Wizardry [4d\]: m7
YZ1509 [4d\]: but bluetable is right: go is difficult :-)
awesome [3k\]: muttley had the best prediction, b would become too relaxed and make big mistakes
GoPostal [3d\]: ofbusy, but this also simplified the game alot, and b still leading, no?
USGO1 [-\]: w has 4/40
mk [2k\]: j13
ThiGar [4k\]: h13?
royu [4d\]: b m10 or n10 can make anything?
audio [2k\]: so at least m4 is not dame anymore?
]
;W[mm]C[maggrig [1k\]: things got out of control wow
awesome [3k\]: lol
]
;B[ig]
;W[kg]
;B[nm]C[GoPostal [3d\]: n7 shows how desperate w is for territory
GoPostal [3d\]: just dont have enuf
ofbusy [-\]: i dont think b leads clearly now..
royu [4d\]: well, also protects b m10 or n10
]
;W[ln]
;B[mo]
;W[ml]C[Wizardry [4d\]: actually w territory is not bad, don't know why u think he lacks
awesome [3k\]: I think game is even
KoyoToya [-\]: W has huge center territory
Direktsaft: w has 20 points + komi + center
]
;B[bm]
;W[bl]C[harlej9 [1k\]: b is leading with over 5 points
kmr [2d\]: this center is huge
audio [2k\]: absolutely nobody could imagine this white center
GoPostal [3d\]: if w gets whole center, its close game
GoPostal [3d\]: like, zero reduction to w center
KoyoToya [-\]: Center is ~45
awesome [3k\]: to me =/- 5 points is even :)
GoPostal [3d\]: if b can play even g9 its too much
USGO1 [-\]: b has 1/40
]
;B[ko]C[Hobbes [1k\]: I must admit that NOW m4 is not dame... but still I think b went bananas with it
awesome [3k\]: +/-
ThiGar [4k\]: is e12 unconditionnally settled?
GoPostal [3d\]: thigar, yes
ThiGar [4k\]: ty
darkronin [1k?\]: But b has 80+? Maybe I counted wrong
USGO1 [-\]: w has 3/40
GoPostal [3d\]: I would ratehr g10 than l5
YZ1509 [4d\]: winner is still inconclusive
Direktsaft: b has about 62 points, so if b can keep w's center at <35 he will win
maggrig [1k\]: 3x40seconds?
YZ1509 [4d\]: i tend to say black +5
]
;W[gr]C[power [1k\]: Yes maggrig
Butcher [1k\]: w+10 
maggrig [1k\]: ok thx power
jwc [-\]: h8?
]
;B[km]
;W[kn]C[ThiGar [4k\]: both players can win or lose big in this yose
GoPostal [3d\]: l7.. urm.. urm...
]
;B[jn]C[awesome [3k\]: l7 backfired quickly
YZ1509 [4d\]: uh rum..smart idea ..where is the bottle
power [1k\]: Wow so pro
USGO1 [-\]: w has 2/40
GoPostal [3d\]: pretty shapes incomming
darkronin [1k?\]: Has not backfired yet
critter [1k\]: sometimes i backfire
USGO1 [-\]: w has 1/40
DKOI [11k\]: omg
power [1k\]: cmon
power [1k\]: time
vasdvasdv [7k\]: Not k5??
ThiGar [4k\]: m7 safe
]
;W[lm]C[Direktsaft: b still should have answered k11
GoPostal [3d\]: dare to play j7
]
;B[jo]
;W[iq]C[darkronin [1k?\]: Did not
]
;B[ir]
;W[hr]C[KoyoToya [-\]: K10
]
;B[jr]
;W[im]C[Hobbes [1k\]: sente
GoPostal [3d\]: g10 now
awesome [3k\]: you were right darkronin 
]
;B[kp]C[awesome [3k\]: unless...
]
;W[ql]
;B[rl]
;W[rm]
;B[qm]C[DKOI [11k\]: r6
]
;W[pm]
;B[qn]C[questhe [2k\]: o6?
]
;W[sj]C[KoyoToya [-\]: I think w is ahead by about komi
]
;B[sm]
;W[gj]
;B[fi]C[GoPostal [3d\]: w leading now :(
]
;W[io]
;B[in]C[awesome [3k\]: I think b deserve to lose after giving away s9 area
GoPostal [3d\]: b rly rly should have played g10
]
;W[hn]
;B[nl]
;W[nk]C[Direktsaft: it's close
awesome [3k\]: w+1.5
]
;B[hm]C[questhe [2k\]:  comon o6
GoPostal [3d\]: ah, nvm
GoPostal [3d\]: b won
Wizardry [4d\]: lol
]
;W[gn]C[GoPostal [3d\]: h8 l8 f8 
vasdvasdv [7k\]: Black bottom left is worth all white on board
GoPostal [3d\]: didnt see this reduction, should be enough to keep b ahead
]
;B[cb]C[vasdvasdv [7k\]: Bottom right i mean
]
;W[ca]C[Direktsaft: c18 what
]
;B[kl]C[GoPostal [3d\]: eh.. whaaat
darkronin [1k?\]: Oh noes
Jazzman [1d\]: timesunji
Mendieta [8k\]: isn't g18 vital point?
CrabMan [4k\]: vasd you tell me what you smoke and get me some
GoPostal [3d\]: this aint no timesuji
Direktsaft: before c18 there was g18 g17 f18 c19 b19 c18 
GoPostal [3d\]: but I have no clue how this is supposed to work
Jazzman [1d\]: c18 was
]
;W[il]
;B[ik]C[JeansebL [3d\]: g18 kills ?
Direktsaft: no
cekalo [1k\]: omg
ThiGar [4k\]: can w n2 manage to capture the 2 o7 stones by way of threatening to live?
JeansebL [3d\]: d19 sente I see
]
;W[hl]
;B[mk]
;W[lk]C[vasdvasdv [7k\]: Crabmam, 39 points in bottom right
vasdvasdv [7k\]: Where does white have mlre than 40?
cekalo [1k\]: this hurts
]
;B[ii]C[GoPostal [3d\]: maybe Im just too tired, because I cant see how this works
]
;W[ij]C[Butcher [1k\]: i don´t see blacks plan
ThiGar [4k\]: j11 damezumari 
]
;B[mj]C[KoyoToya [-\]: Holy frack
Crono9987 [3d\]: vasd, w middle (if these black stones die) is worth well over 40
KoyoToya [-\]: No way
GoPostal [3d\]: tho the aji is starting to be ratehr annoying
GoPostal [3d\]: fun solving this in byomi
stone33 [?\]: .............
]
;W[kk]
;B[jj]
;W[ki]C[stone33 [?\]: gg
]
;B[ni]
;W[ok]C[GoPostal [3d\]: m5 m8 l10 m11 m10 
GoPostal [3d\]: something dies
GoPostal [3d\]: from white
sedgwick [?\]: nothing for B
stone33 [?\]: nah
fall [3d\]: yeah
Direktsaft: m5
stone33 [?\]: actually
stone33 [?\]: lets see
]
;B[ba]
;W[aa]C[GoPostal [3d\]: he sequence I provided, unconditionally kills some w stones
GoPostal [3d\]: ither l11 or m6 or m9
Direktsaft: it works
stone33 [?\]: White plays M12
stone33 [?\]: Not M11
ThiGar [4k\]: b19 was a timesuji?
Direktsaft: m5 m8 l10 m11 m10 k8 m12 
KoyoToya [-\]: Probably
]
;B[da]C[GoPostal [3d\]: thigar, yes
fall [3d\]: w has n12?
darkronin [1k?\]: Yes tg
KoyoToya [-\]: Thigar
ThiGar [4k\]: ty
Werfeus [5d\]: l10 m12 not m11
]
;W[ba]C[GoPostal [3d\]: ah
darkronin [1k?\]: Please b play postal's var
Crono9987 [3d\]: gopostal, replace M11 with M12
Crono9987 [3d\]: looks close but i think w is fine
]
;B[mi]C[cekalo [1k\]: omg
]
;W[oi]C[xyzw [6k\]: ???
Mendieta [8k\]: w right group dead?
]
;B[sh]C[cekalo [1k\]: i see his plan now
Direktsaft: ic
ofbusy [-\]: force to take the stones
GoPostal [3d\]: semedori atleast from this
power [1k\]: Win by time
KoyoToya [-\]: This is why i says holy frack
]
;W[si]C[stone33 [?\]: Nah white is fine
Butcher [1k\]: 7 libs for b
darkronin [1k?\]: Indeed :D
Mendieta [8k\]: t13 
GoPostal [3d\]: yes, so worth 7 points
Wizardry [4d\]: there might be a counterattack at o6
]
;B[se]C[GoPostal [3d\]: I guess lose some because w gets t8
jwc [-\]: b l10
]
;W[rh]
;B[sg]
;W[sf]
;B[sg]C[GoPostal [3d\]: still profit for b
cekalo [1k\]: w dead
darkronin [1k?\]: Why not just m5 sequence?? It works!!
]
;W[mf]C[cekalo [1k\]: no
GoPostal [3d\]: darkronin, because l10 is answered with m12
KoyoToya [-\]: No it doesn't dark
cekalo [1k\]: L10
]
;B[rn]C[Mendieta [8k\]: l10 
jwc [-\]: l10 m12 m11 l12 k9 
KoyoToya [-\]: L10 m12
Mendieta [8k\]: ok. reduce libs from outside
GoPostal [3d\]: hmm, does s11 die?
ThiGar [4k\]: no time to lose
]
;W[lg]C[cekalo [1k\]: s11 is dead
GoPostal [3d\]: ah, no
GoPostal [3d\]: survives by 1 liberty
KoyoToya [-\]: Big reduction though
GoPostal [3d\]: ya
]
;B[cg]C[GoPostal [3d\]: b even gets the t9 yose
]
;W[bj]C[sedgwick [?\]: w o6 is dangerous?
KoyoToya [-\]: No
]
;B[af]C[KoyoToya [-\]: Oh wait
sedgwick [?\]: oh, b m5 sente, nvm
]
;W[ad]C[KoyoToya [-\]: A5
GoPostal [3d\]: sdgwick, also q6 and p7 are sente
]
;B[kj]
;W[lh]C[GoPostal [3d\]: ha, 1 point more
]
;B[jk]C[jwc [-\]: this no longer works after m13 
GoPostal [3d\]: oh wow..
cekalo [1k\]: what the..
xyzw [6k\]: gained a liberty?
jwc [-\]: or does it?
]
;W[jl]C[KoyoToya [-\]: Getting more libs
KoyoToya [-\]: Lol
]
;B[hk]C[KoyoToya [-\]: Trololol
cekalo [1k\]: wow
Mendieta [8k\]: impressive tesuji
jotty [?\]: wow lol
Gabriel [1d\]: damn
cekalo [1k\]: amazing game
xyzw [6k\]: that's wicked
huggy [3k\]: wow
awesome [3k\]: m10?
awesome [3k\]: oh ...
awesome [3k\]: lol
Direktsaft: b gained h10
GoPostal [3d\]: cant g8
]
;W[ll]
;B[gk]C[audio [2k\]: so young and so mean
GoPostal [3d\]: and b still gets damezumari but now rescued tail
]
;W[fk]
;B[lj]C[fall [3d\]: over
Crono9987 [3d\]: gg
Butcher [1k\]: nice
GoPostal [3d\]: f10 g8 g7 f8 e9 e7 
Falcon89 [5k\]: amazing
GoPostal [3d\]: b just walks home
]
;W[gb]C[gruenwald [2d\]: poor w
]
;B[fj]C[awesome [3k\]: res
Mendieta [8k\]: over
GoPostal [3d\]: lol
Wizardry [4d\]: o6
USGO1 [-\]: white resigns
cekalo [1k\]: how did this happen
power [1k\]: gg
power [1k\]: Thanks USGO1
darkronin [1k?\]: Wait what
ddgg: what's the purpose for G18?
TyTaLuS [1d\]: black to stronk
USGO5 [-\]: thanks usgo1
questhe [2k\]: great game!
Alife361 [5k?\]: Aaron!!
Falcon89 [5k\]: AMAZING B
darkronin [1k?\]: Why ignore the last w move?
audio [2k\]: was a lot of kibitz fun
ofbusy [-\]: what a game, thx usgo1
Alife361 [5k?\]: ty
awesome [3k\]: ty usgo
USGO1 [-\]: aaron goes on to final
Direktsaft: q10 is dead, so g18 doesn't matter
cekalo [1k\]: when is the final?
ThiGar [4k\]: when is the final?
HW [-\]: when is the final?
darkronin [1k?\]: Oh right. Thanks
kmiia [2k?\]: when is the final?
Wizardry [4d\]: when is the final?
awesome [3k\]: when is... ah nvm
jotty [?\]: is top black group dead if black plays G17
cekalo [1k\]: when is the final
jotty [?\]: seki?
USGO5 [-\]: game 2 of the final match between Eric and Aaron begins this afternoon at 3p pacific with Eric already up 1-0
USGO5 [-\]: about 2 hours from now
ThiGar [4k\]: ty
Falcon89 [5k\]: thanks
Romain3008 [4k\]: mhh why o6 doesnt work ?
KoyoToya [-\]: I'm rooting for Eric
Direktsaft: which makes it a Bo3
KoyoToya [-\]: Not Eric
KoyoToya [-\]: Aaron
cekalo [1k\]: Aaron is my favourite after this game
KoyoToya [-\]: Just because he had showed such fighting spirit
Mendieta [8k\]: what is UTC of pacific time?
KoyoToya [-\]: Shown*
darkronin [1k?\]: Isn't it mean to count the prelim into the final?
Wizardry [4d\]: romain3008, i think b just o5 and white p6 b g17 for a huge lead
Direktsaft: no
USGO1 [-\]: next round 3p pst (2 hrs from now)
USGO1 [-\]: thanks for watching
ThiGar [4k\]: eric will be fresher than aaron, is it a factor?
darkronin [1k?\]: Thanks usgo
ThiGar [4k\]: thanks usgo1
Jazzman [1d\]: how is eric already ahead 10?
Jazzman [1d\]: 1-0?
Mendieta [8k\]: thanks USGO
Direktsaft: beat Aaron in the prelims
Romain3008 [4k\]: ok ty
kmr [2d\]: game from round robin counts
Wizardry [4d\]: the round robin actually counted for something
Jazzman [1d\]: ah, ok, straneg system :)
ThiGar [4k\]: system is just
cyrilsmyth: w k8 suicide, m8 ok
barty [1d\]: lol
cyrilsmyth: w m13 shold be m11 earlier
ThiGar [4k\]: why did w lose a tempo by capturing c10? wa&sn't that the turnaround?
kmr [2d\]: C13 was trying to capture C12 and rescue 2 stones, it was quite big
ThiGar [4k\]: ty kmr, big, but the central semeai was ultra urgent
kmr [2d\]: i think white played some mistakes in this semai, M13 looks suspicious
YZ1509 [4d\]: are they still struggling to find THE move
YZ1509 [4d\]: aha ok B+Res
royu [4d\]: fliptheboard.jpg
GoPostal [3d\]: how soon is next round?
Direktsaft: soon™
humblelife [-\]: 80 min from now
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