(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[4th AGA Pro Qual Finals Elimination round Aaron Ye (W) - Daniel Gourdeau (B)]PW[Aaron Ye]PB[Daniel Gourdeau]WR[7d]BR[6d]DT[2016-01-07]RO[2BG2]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Esther Jun]RE[B+12.50]
;B[co]
;W[pq]
;B[dc]
;W[pc]
;B[qe]
;W[qi]
;B[od]
;W[oc]
;B[qc]
;W[qb]
;B[nd]
;W[qd]
;B[pd]
;W[rd]
;B[re]
;W[rc]
;B[nc]
;W[de]C[gogonuts [4d\]: shouldn't s16 have captured instead?
]
;B[ee]
;W[cc]
;B[dd]
;W[cd]
;B[ef]
;W[cf]
;B[dh]
;W[ed]
;B[fd]
;W[ec]
;B[db]
;W[fb]
;B[gb]
;W[eb]
;B[df]
;W[ce]
;B[fc]
;W[cb]
;B[hc]C[Alife361 [5k?\]: b collecting cuts in shapes
gogonuts [4d\]: b better to here, imo
KoyoToya [-\]: Dunno
gogonuts [4d\]: still from s16
gogonuts [4d\]: w has to hurry to protect the right
]
;W[pf]
;B[pe]C[Alife361 [5k?\]: can b ignore kakari with his 5-3 and play at BR?
]
;W[ng]
;B[ph]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w trying to cheat b right now, imo
gogonuts [4d\]: b says: please inform me of your plans :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: o13 feels like handicap go to me
Alife361 [5k?\]: m18? :)
gogonuts [4d\]: notice that q12 is the point that would have given the scattered w stones shape
gogonuts [4d\]: w from slightly behind to truly worrysome, imo
KoyoToya [-\]: O13 definitely overplay for sure
Alife361 [5k?\]: is q11 actually a shape?
KoyoToya [-\]: Q11?
Alife361 [5k?\]: (not q12)
Alife361 [5k?\]: Of w's form i mean
KoyoToya [-\]: I'm not sure what you're asking
gogonuts [4d\]: i mean q12 would complete the w shape, if there were no b stone in the area
Alife361 [5k?\]: I ask about the same but q11
gogonuts [4d\]: locally, w q11 feels right now, but having o13 just cut off like that is terrible
]
;W[oi]C[gogonuts [4d\]: looks like good damage control
gogonuts [4d\]: but w not happy here
]
;B[pi]C[GibbonGO [1k\]: good sabaki
Herod [-\]: W happier than if there were a black stone at o13
]
;W[pj]C[gogonuts [4d\]: he was trying to make the b stones a bove uncomfortable with o13, and on the next move he had to compromise
gogonuts [4d\]: lol, herod
KoyoToya [-\]: Herod does have a point
gogonuts [4d\]: b must be calculating if landing a blow at p10 goes well
rollstory [1d\]: i wouldnt be too worried about top if o13 be a b stone
rollstory [1d\]: i think i d be reducable
gogonuts [4d\]: actually, i think b really should land the cut
gogonuts [4d\]: r12 is super safe, but with w p10 w would go unpunished
gogonuts [4d\]: which can't be right :-)
rollstory [1d\]: but w r12 after cut seems frightend
]
;B[oj]C[gogonuts [4d\]: i don't know either player, but i'd really like to see o13 get crushed
gogonuts [4d\]: I'm the passive aggressive type :-)
rollstory [1d\]: i call r12 
nanotech [2k\]: nuts type:)
Alife361 [5k?\]: o11
gogonuts [4d\]: lol, nano
wolfgang23 [9k?\]: q13?
]
;W[pk]C[gogonuts [4d\]: o10?
applepie2 [5d\]: o10 seems reasonable, as well as o11
USGO5 [-\]: You can find the latest results and game records on the AGA website: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2015
gogonuts [4d\]: that's bs problem, more than one solution :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: hello mr. b, time management
KoyoToya [-\]: What is time?
applepie2 [5d\]: white N13 was to optimistic - black plays slack before, but now is hapy to be able to attack
gogonuts [4d\]: you mean o13
applepie2 [5d\]: right
gogonuts [4d\]: i thought b was satisfactory even before o13
gogonuts [4d\]: but now his position should really be good, if he disentagles this without damage
applepie2 [5d\]: black sufered much local demage, if white plays e4 instead of q14, he was clearly ahaed
]
;B[ok]C[gogonuts [4d\]: that e4 would ahve been a good choice
gogonuts [4d\]: but i don't agree that it makes ws position good
]
;W[qg]C[remsleep [?\]: usgo - will there be game records for the games this morning?
gogonuts [4d\]: was p9 ok?
]
;B[qh]C[MrDoctor [3k\]: all game records, quicker than aga:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12CadQC8Cioxv_4YPFgiWHk2xqQNbTNLfVC1xd9qtmI4/edit#gid=2026118485
]
;W[rh]
;B[oh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: aga shaming is illegal
]
;W[ni]
;B[ri]
;W[pl]
;B[nh]C[Lsugyen [7d\]: god b played the joseki wrong in upper left
Lsugyen [7d\]: c18 then b17 is the standard joseki
Lsugyen [7d\]: therefore top left is gd for w
Vinicius [1d\]: looks good for b
]
;W[mi]
;B[mh]
;W[li]
;B[qj]C[USGO5 [-\]: Be sure to check out the short (2-4-minute) video game highlights on the Official AGA YouTube channel (user/USGOWeb). Use this playlist to see them all: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqpN3-2FP-kK76a1Eet50HLq_1vZheSwv
gogonuts [4d\]: b failed to crush w
]
;W[ol]C[gogonuts [4d\]: from p9 on it wasnt so good
gogonuts [4d\]: w can play this game
KoyoToya [-\]: How much time does each player have left in this game?
]
;B[jh]
;W[lh]
;B[lg]
;W[rf]C[KoyoToya [-\]: Holy frack
USGO5 [-\]: Daniel has 45 mins left, while Aaron has almost an hour left
KoyoToya [-\]: Does w actually mean to live?
LeeSeigen [1d\]: would've been nice to see the players in the highlights videos
Alife361 [5k?\]: Only The Captain and Aaron can handle stones in 2-line narrow field
KoyoToya [-\]: N13 
]
;B[sh]
;W[ji]
;B[ii]C[chiron [?\]: commenst too long
]
;W[ij]C[chiron [?\]: cant read thm
chiron [?\]: glitch in the chat window?
]
;B[jj]
;W[ki]
;B[kg]
;W[ik]
;B[jp]
;W[hp]C[applepie2 [5d\]: black is bad
chiron [?\]: bad in a good way
gogonuts [4d\]: b now the one with the problematic position
LeeSeigen [1d\]: f3 :P
]
;B[mp]
;W[dq]C[gogonuts [4d\]: ask at q4?
applepie2 [5d\]: white is totaly in command here
MrDoctor [3k\]: has shown he deserves to be in the finals, so far in the whole tourney
MrDoctor [3k\]: + this game
MrDoctor [3k\]: black has some hope, but not much
]
;B[bq]C[Alife361 [5k?\]: L3???
Alife361 [5k?\]: :)
]
;W[kq]C[LeeSeigen [1d\]: wow
Alife361 [5k?\]: Waw!
LeeSeigen [1d\]: good guess :P
LeeSeigen [1d\]: give a cookie to that man
Alife361 [5k?\]: Start celebrating with another cap of tea :)
locust [1k\]: B seems ok
locust [1k\]: Which player is w and which is b?
nero [1k\]: p3
gogonuts [4d\]: i don't think L3 is so great, but guessing it is awesome
locust [1k\]: P3 just helps corner
locust [1k\]: Not good
LeeSeigen [1d\]: no matter wether it's good or not xD
applepie2 [5d\]: this is applepire for white now on
gogonuts [4d\]: warm?
Herod [-\]: better than funeral pyre
]
;B[jl]C[gogonuts [4d\]: b rebelling
gogonuts [4d\]: better place to make w nervous was q4 though, imo
applepie2 [5d\]: k8 is just fine probe, q4 and similar moves will wait ...
]
;W[jk]
;B[jq]
;W[kp]C[gogonuts [4d\]: how about b k2?
locust [1k\]: K5 seems more proper
locust [1k\]: Then k2 After? At least that's what I normally see
]
;B[kr]
;W[lr]
;B[ko]
;W[jr]
;B[jo]C[gogonuts [4d\]: long way home for b
gogonuts [4d\]: this is what i wanted to avoid
]
;W[ir]
;B[ll]C[gogonuts [4d\]: J2 better at L1?
]
;W[nl]C[nero [1k\]: who is winning?
]
;B[lp]
;W[ks]C[gogonuts [4d\]: before J2 w
gogonuts [4d\]: now its ticklish
nero [1k\]: o4
nero [1k\]: O4 is pro move here
gogonuts [4d\]: the only question is pro what?
]
;B[qo]C[gogonuts [4d\]: dangerous move
]
;W[op]
;B[rq]C[gogonuts [4d\]: o5
nero [1k\]: L5 is dangerous
]
;W[hm]C[nero [1k\]: see
nero [1k\]: R5 is over play
gogonuts [4d\]: b doesnt like h5 and doesnt like p5
gogonuts [4d\]: but has to do something ...
nero [1k\]: i pro O4
]
;B[mn]
;W[no]C[KoyoToya [-\]: O5 n5 l7
KoyoToya [-\]: Well got the first move right
locust [1k\]: He'll have to attack the two space jump
Alife361 [5k?\]: b can give up n4
locust [1k\]: Yeah and then resign 
Alife361 [5k?\]: no, o6 now
KoyoToya [-\]: O6 p6
locust [1k\]: O6 doesnt gain eyeshape unfortunately
locust [1k\]: And hurts b in the corner. 
locust [1k\]: H5 maybe 
locust [1k\]: And if white hane outside  then double hane
locust [1k\]: No. Doesnt quite work if w plays good shape
]
;B[ho]
;W[go]C[Alife361 [5k?\]: g5 is good for left side...
locust [1k\]: Its imperative that b lives inside. 
LeeSeigen [1d\]: u dont say :O
LeeSeigen [1d\]: lol
KoyoToya [-\]: O.o
locust [1k\]: Alife seems to think you can sac xD
Alife361 [5k?\]: no, just let me enjoy :)
]
;B[hq]C[Alife361 [5k?\]: Thats why i not sleeping yet (here in Moscow is 4.30 am)
Alife361 [5k?\]: I like to see the use of J12 and F15 somewhen
]
;W[gp]
;B[iq]
;W[gq]
;B[nq]
;W[pr]
;B[hr]
;W[mr]
;B[fr]
;W[gr]
;B[gs]
;W[eq]
;B[hn]
;W[gn]
;B[im]
;W[il]
;B[gm]
;W[hl]
;B[jm]
;W[mo]
;B[kk]
;W[kj]
;B[fq]
;W[eo]
;B[mk]C[remsleep [?\]: everyone got quiet
Alife361 [5k?\]: m5
KoyoToya [-\]: M6
mafutrct [2d?\]: m5 seems to let b live
KoyoToya [-\]: I'm going for m6
mafutrct [2d?\]: m6 seems better
]
;W[cn]C[KoyoToya [-\]: I think m6 can kill
mafutrct [2d?\]: maybe the outside is too weak
]
;B[lo]C[KoyoToya [-\]: B5
]
;W[mm]
;B[lm]
;W[bo]
;B[nn]
;W[on]
;B[qm]
;W[nk]
;B[hi]
;W[dj]
;B[cr]C[PAPANINJA [4k\]: this should be it right? there is no way white can make up for black's territory
]
;W[es]
;B[bp]
;W[cp]C[PAPANINJA [4k\]: but im lazy to count ofc it just looks big
PAPANINJA [4k\]: :P
]
;B[ar]
;W[ap]
;B[bs]
;W[fi]
;B[fh]
;W[se]
;B[qf]
;W[ob]
;B[nb]
;W[rr]
;B[ql]
;W[gh]
;B[gi]
;W[eh]
;B[fg]C[Vindicare [3k\]: B has a slight lead
mafutrct [2d?\]: what's the count?
KoyoToya [-\]: After s4 w is ahead i think
Vindicare [3k\]: i estimate w at 60 + 7.5 komi and b at 70
mafutrct [2d?\]: oh really close
Alife361 [5k?\]: d11?
KoyoToya [-\]: E11
MrDoctor [3k\]: if w can seal off left , he will be ahead
KoyoToya [-\]: To keep sente
]
;W[ch]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: normally E11, but w seems to think
KoyoToya [-\]: E11 d12, s4
Vindicare [3k\]: C12 is big
KoyoToya [-\]: Oh lol
Vindicare [3k\]: i need to recount now
]
;B[ei]
;W[fj]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: this looks better than vanilla e11
]
;B[cg]
;W[di]C[KoyoToya [-\]: W ahead i think now
mafutrct [2d?\]: d13, no?
]
;B[eg]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: looks like w gained a little bit here
Vindicare [3k\]: strange, I would hace connected at D13
]
;W[bg]C[Nightwind [1d\]: so would I.
mafutrct [2d?\]: i guess this is better with E10
gogonuts [4d\]: this ko is tough on w
mafutrct [2d?\]: and b seemed to think the simple move at d13 was not good enough to win, so he choose ko
]
;B[gk]
;W[dg]
;B[gl]C[gogonuts [4d\]: oops
mafutrct [2d?\]: if b d13, i think w could b12 in sente and after b b13, b could do nothing more
]
;W[el]
;B[em]C[Nightwind [1d\]: s4 looks big now
]
;W[dl]
;B[cg]
;W[rp]C[gogonuts [4d\]: leaving the ko is very tough
]
;B[bh]
;W[dg]
;B[pm]C[Nightwind [1d\]: i would expect 7d to know he is gonna win such a ko :D
]
;W[om]
;B[cg]
;W[ci]
;B[bf]
;W[dg]
;B[fa]
;W[da]C[gogonuts [4d\]: if simple play loses that would be reason enough
]
;B[cg]
;W[qk]
;B[rk]
;W[dg]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: w has enough threats, i think
MrDoctor [3k\]: o2 threat for b
]
;B[po]
;W[oo]
;B[cg]
;W[io]C[remsleep [?\]: is the ko enough for w to win?
]
;B[in]
;W[dg]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: at least "not ko" is "not enough" :)
]
;B[qq]C[gogonuts [4d\]: oops
]
;W[qr]
;B[cg]
;W[ag]C[gogonuts [4d\]: s4 never worked
]
;B[sq]
;W[nr]
;B[fs]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: why not b o2 first ?
]
;W[fm]
;B[ah]C[NGC3242 [1d?\]: whydid they stop ko-ing?
]
;W[dg]C[NGC3242 [1d?\]: oh it's back
]
;B[pp]
;W[oq]
;B[cg]
;W[gd]
;B[gc]
;W[dg]
;B[mj]
;W[nj]
;B[cg]C[Vindicare [3k\]: exciting end game
Nightwind [1d\]: L6?
Nightwind [1d\]: nope
nero [1k\]: t2
Vindicare [3k\]: J4 instead of L6
Vindicare [3k\]: that way lose less points for w
]
;W[pn]C[Nightwind [1d\]: Q6
rgong [6d?\]: l6/j4 are not ko threats
Vindicare [3k\]: oh yeah
]
;B[af]
;W[qn]
;B[rn]C[M3m0ryOfG0 [11k\]: 0.o
]
;W[ro]
;B[bk]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: why not, though?
]
;W[bl]C[rgong [6d?\]: E2 connects?
Vindicare [3k\]: B has miai for second eye at M9 or N7
mafutrct [2d?\]: oh
]
;B[ck]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: i thought the n7 thing does not work
]
;W[bg]
;B[ag]
;W[bi]
;B[ai]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: but e2 works :)
]
;W[cl]C[GoNoob [4d\]: white lost?
]
;B[ad]C[GoNoob [4d\]: is this single elmination?
mafutrct [2d?\]: ah, n7 is an eye actually: j4 t1 l6 m6 l7 n8 
Werfeus [5d\]: yes
mafutrct [2d?\]: so e2 not needed
Alife361 [5k?\]: 3 games
gogonuts [4d\]: its best of 3
humblelife [-\]: best of 3. aaron has 1 win from prelims
GoNoob [4d\]: 1 win against daniel?
gogonuts [4d\]: with round robin game counting
gogonuts [4d\]: right
]
;W[rm]
;B[rl]
;W[sn]
;B[ab]C[humblelife [-\]: aaron had 1 win against everybody except eric
]
;W[bb]
;B[ba]C[gosaint [5d\]: lets hope for first professional with normal eyes
gogonuts [4d\]: ouch
GoNoob [4d\]: well aaron will cry after this game
lepore [1d\]: ummm
]
;W[dc]C[PAPANINJA [4k\]: oh wow that is the definition of painful
]
;B[fp]
;W[fo]C[humblelife [-\]: aaron is too young to need galsses, no?
gogonuts [4d\]: spank me
GoNoob [4d\]: aaron has glasses lol
GoNoob [4d\]: not too young
GoNoob [4d\]: aaron not that young
humblelife [-\]: ah. reading glasses?
KoyoToya [-\]: He's like 12
NGC3242 [1d?\]: *13
agakenny [3d\]: he is 13
]
;B[ej]
;W[ek]C[GoNoob [4d\]: and with the amount of time he spend playing video games, glasses inevitable
]
;B[eh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: lol
GoNoob [4d\]: 13 is not young
]
;W[dk]
;B[fk]
;W[ac]
;B[bc]
;W[bd]C[Vindicare [3k\]: connect and die
GoNoob [4d\]: not really
PAPANINJA [4k\]: oh wow
]
;B[ac]
;W[ae]C[Vindicare [3k\]: a15
]
;B[be]C[GoNoob [4d\]: so white gets two stones on the side
jasch [1d\]: w gets 
jasch [1d\]: that
]
;W[aj]C[jasch [1d\]: but is it enough?
gogonuts [4d\]: w gets something
]
;B[bj]
;W[al]
;B[ak]
;W[ca]
;B[bg]C[Luffyy [3d\]: really ?
gogonuts [4d\]: ko for a17
]
;W[cj]
;B[aj]
;W[aa]C[GoNoob [4d\]: what
GoNoob [4d\]: black didnt see that?
JeansebL [3d\]: arg
rgong [6d?\]: O19 biggest
Luffyy [3d\]: b cant play this ko
]
;B[fl]
;W[ae]
;B[ad]C[gogonuts [4d\]: hm 
gogonuts [4d\]: not ko
gosaint [5d\]: still b+
GoNoob [4d\]: ofc not ko
gogonuts [4d\]: yeah
MrDoctor [3k\]: b wins still, as gosaint noted
GoNoob [4d\]: aaron should save energy for next game
GoNoob [4d\]: after crying
]
;W[fn]
;B[rg]
;W[na]
;B[ma]
;W[oa]
;B[mb]C[gogonuts [4d\]: its still a big break in on the left
]
;W[er]
;B[cq]
;W[do]
;B[ip]
;W[hj]
;B[gj]
;W[sf]
;B[lq]
;W[ac]
;B[kr]
;W[ae]
;B[dg]
;W[kq]C[gogonuts [4d\]: lots of w eyes ul
GoNoob [4d\]: aaron end game slightly better
GoNoob [4d\]: but doens't matter
]
;B[sl]
;W[ep]
;B[hs]C[gogonuts [4d\]: yes, b gave away stuff
MrDoctor [3k\]: b win is gettting large
]
;W[sm]
;B[is]
;W[ml]
;B[lk]
;W[sd]
;B[sg]C[Vindicare [3k\]: B+13
GoNoob [4d\]: win geting smaller you mean
MrDoctor [3k\]: I mean from just a few moves ago
]
;W[kh]
;B[ad]
;W[ga]
;B[ha]
;W[ae]C[MrDoctor [3k\]: not from a while ago, black has ceded a lot
GoNoob [4d\]: yes smaller compared to a few momnts ago
]
;B[kp]
;W[kr]
;B[ad]
;W[ea]
;B[ga]
;W[ae]
;B[so]
;W[sp]
;B[ad]C[flatwhite [3k\]: it says b ahead 15
]
;W[ln]
;B[kn]
;W[ae]
;B[aq]
;W[ao]C[Werfeus [5d\]: it's 10 points
]
;B[ad]
;W[jg]
;B[ih]
;W[ae]C[MrDoctor [3k\]: 13
GoNoob [4d\]: what is "it"?
Werfeus [5d\]: difference
]
;B[dr]C[kecleon [2d\]: probably se
]
;W[ds]C[flatwhite [3k\]: kgs score estimate
GoNoob [4d\]: if you mean SE then it's uselss
]
;B[ad]
;W[mq]
;B[np]C[gru [1k\]: the clown
]
;W[ae]C[flatwhite [3k\]: oh
Werfeus [5d\]: no i mean point difference
GoNoob [4d\]: did anyone count?
MrDoctor [3k\]: SE is useful at end
kecleon [2d\]: which is not reliable for small difference
]
;B[hk]
;W[jj]C[flatwhite [3k\]: lol i go by that thing
]
;B[ad]
;W[nm]
;B[ln]
;W[ae]C[GoNoob [4d\]: no se is not useful in aga rules
kecleon [2d\]: also that
lalika: what is aga rules?
]
;B[lj]
;W[js]C[lalika: why is it different
kecleon [2d\]: a little complicated, look it up
]
;B[ad]C[GoNoob [4d\]: what they are playing with this game
]
;W[sj]C[Vindicare [3k\]: w =90.5
]
;B[rj]
;W[ae]C[gogonuts [4d\]: you can view local and change rules :-) 
]
;B[cs]C[GoNoob [4d\]: white doesn't have 90
Vindicare [3k\]: b = 102
]
;W[ad]C[lalika: why do they make up their own rules, that doesn't make sense
lwhite [4d\]: 14.5
Werfeus [5d\]: w has about 90
USGO2 [-\]: The players are now counting.
PAPANINJA [4k\]: lalika: i know right?
Lsugyen [7d\]: b wins it seems like
GoNoob [4d\]: not quite 90 right?
KoyoToya [-\]: 90.5
KoyoToya [-\]: W has 90.5
GoNoob [4d\]: oh
GoNoob [4d\]: komi puts white to 90
kecleon [2d\]: 91.5, no?
Lsugyen [7d\]: b wins by quite a lot
GoNoob [4d\]: about 90 i didn't count
Vindicare [3k\]: since he won ko, yes
KoyoToya [-\]: B 101
KoyoToya [-\]: Yes w 91.5
kecleon [2d\]: actually 925 since aga komi is 7.5
GoNoob [4d\]: mejin toya says so
KoyoToya [-\]: No i did 7.5
Grunman [5k\]: what do they count?
kecleon [2d\]: huh I had 92.5
KoyoToya [-\]: B+9.5 i think
NGC3242 [1d?\]: I count 91.5
NGC3242 [1d?\]: with 7.5 komi
NGC3242 [1d?\]: wait no
NGC3242 [1d?\]: 92.5 I added 7 to 85 wrong
lwhite [4d\]: 14.5 i count
lwhite [4d\]: lol
kecleon [2d\]: :D
USGO2 [-\]: Black wins by 11.5.
gogonuts [4d\]: thx
GoNoob [4d\]: ty usgo
mafutrct [2d?\]: view offline says b 190 w 178.5
lwhite [4d\]: lol my bad counting lol
Falcon89 [5k\]: thx
KoyoToya [-\]: Haha we're all wrong haha
HKA [3d?\]: so eric gets another morning off
kecleon [2d\]: not that it matters
lalika: b stong
kecleon [2d\]: eric's just chillin
lalika: eric vs daniel should armwrestle now
Alife361 [5k?\]: ty
lwhite [4d\]: oh shoot now i counted right lol
lwhite [4d\]: bad counting is my forte
Vindicare [3k\]: w must pass last and give one prisonner to black in AGA rules
Vindicare [3k\]: well all passes I mean
littlebee [1d\]: who won?\\
USGO2 [-\]: B+12.5
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