(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x40 byo-yomi]
GN[4th AGA Pro Qual Finals Elimination round: Eric Lui 7d (w) - Andrew Lu 7d (b)]PW[Eric Lui]PB[Andrew Lu]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2016-01-07]EV[4th AGA Pro Qual Finals Elimination round ]RO[2AG2]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Garlock]RE[W+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dd]
;B[pp]
;W[dp]
;B[fc]
;W[od]
;B[mc]
;W[ne]
;B[qg]
;W[ld]C[gogonuts [4d\]: only top 2 boards are still in it, right?
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;B[cf]
;W[df]
;B[dg]
;W[ef]
;B[cc]
;W[ce]
;B[dc]
;W[cg]
;B[pc]C[gogonuts [4d\]: better start for w, it seems
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;W[oc]C[Daddeldu [2k\]: why?
gogonuts [4d\]: b so low at the top
gogonuts [4d\]: i thoughtw even might tenuki against q17
herissondu [4d\]: i prefer b here
gogonuts [4d\]: i don't really see the point of p17 here+
herissondu [4d\]: w's top group is on a side with little value
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;B[ic]C[herissondu [4d\]: plus b has sente
gogonuts [4d\]: now really tenuki
LEIBNIZ [2k\]: but, N16 sente for b, so w owes another move
KoyoToya [-\]: 4d 4d 2k
KoyoToya [-\]: Haha
gogonuts [4d\]: b cant cut without helping n17
gogonuts [4d\]: still, p17 was a problem
gogonuts [4d\]: b j17 does more than w p17 
Daddeldu [2k\]: sometimes these pros make small looking moves that give their groups stability and pays out later. Its so hard to decide
ranyee [3k\]: onece more? they played yesterday
gogonuts [4d\]: this is now the knockout phase
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;W[nq]C[gooooo [?\]: they aren't pro
gogonuts [4d\]: for them its a best of 3 now, with their first game counting
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;B[pn]
;W[pr]
;B[fq]C[nez [6k?\]: how did you measure j17 vs p17 value gogonuts?
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;W[cn]
;B[lq]C[gogonuts [4d\]: i just think it helped b more
gogonuts [4d\]: after all, before j17 w had h17 to look forward to
gogonuts [4d\]: and it was hard for b to continue profitably, if w tenukied
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;W[qq]C[gogonuts [4d\]: for example if b o18, which is shpe, w L14, and b really is low at the top
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;B[oq]
;W[or]
;B[np]
;W[mp]
;B[mq]
;W[nr]
;B[mo]
;W[go]C[agakenny [3d\]: I like white
TyTaLuS [1d\]: black is very low almost every where
TyTaLuS [1d\]: but he has more cash i guess
nez [6k?\]: does that not leave a weakness in the whites formation at k17? 
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;B[rp]
;W[rq]C[clydesdale [3k\]: how many rounds left?
KoyoToya [-\]: A lot
KoyoToya [-\]: At least 3
KoyoToya [-\]: I think
HKA [3d?\]: If Eric wins the game, he could be pro in two more games
HKA [3d?\]: everyone else would take longer
dangdang [2k\]: what's the main difference btw pro and amateur in america?
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;B[hp]C[HKA [3d?\]: pros get various opportunities for tournaments, teaching and study
LukydeLiya [7k\]: test
LukydeLiya [7k\]: test
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;W[ho]C[KoyoToya [-\]: This is the knockout and after this is a best of 5
LukydeLiya [7k\]: pro wins. amateur loses
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;B[ip]C[HKA [3d?\]: not always
gogonuts [4d\]: this is still best of 3, right?
KoyoToya [-\]: Yes gogo
HKA [3d?\]: we have some strong non citizen amatuers who cannot be pros here, but are as strong as the pros
HKA [3d?\]: again it is best of 3 but Eric has already won one, so he makes teh final with a win
HKA [3d?\]: Andrew needs to win twice in a row to make the final
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;W[dh]C[KoyoToya [-\]: Yeah so Eric needs this and 3 more
LukydeLiya [7k\]: the ladder will work??
Daddeldu [2k\]: now w has real big influence on the left side
HKA [3d?\]: no, he has won the first game of the best of 5 final as well, so he only needs two
HKA [3d?\]: Sarah was the only player who had the edge on him in an elimination match
HKA [3d?\]: but she lost this morning
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;B[jn]C[backpack1 [-\]: how many pros are selected this year?
Narukami [6k\]: did she plays her strange opening move again? lol
gogonuts [4d\]: she played tengen?
Daddeldu [2k\]: w will not play out the ladder but let the stone escape and gain a wall. 
gogonuts [4d\]: a good plan against a stronger opponent who wants to win safely
Narukami [6k\]: she played m8 first move iirc
gogonuts [4d\]: ah that game
gogonuts [4d\]: that was m9 :-)
Narukami [6k\]: ah, my bad
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;W[hl]C[jlm [1k\]: D11?
gogonuts [4d\]: w has superior flow
HKA [3d?\]: rooting for eric, so I hope you are right
HKA [3d?\]: I am a territory guy, so black seems good to me
LoneStar [3d\]: hello kids again
gogonuts [4d\]: b maybe o12
agakenny [3d\]: with moyo game, b R13, J17 are too low
Daddeldu [2k\]: w can get lots of territory if b does not invade...
jlm [1k\]: I think invasion needed too
Daddeldu [2k\]: G11 or alike?
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;B[pj]C[jlm [1k\]: Use aji i d13 somehow?
NGC3242 [1d?\]: so far W has no territory apart from the bottom right, I feel like B can just secure territory and then if B reduces the moyo he should be fine? No need for an invasion yet? idk
jlm [1k\]: W wants k8 now?
jlm [1k\]: Well built agrred
jlm [1k\]: Black
agakenny [3d\]: k9 is good enough
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;W[fp]C[eiskaffee: anyone knows what is the komi?
agakenny [3d\]: 7.5
jlm [1k\]: 7.5
NGC3242 [1d?\]: komi is 12.4
eiskaffee: thx
Daddeldu [2k\]: 12.4?
gogonuts [4d\]: the correct answer is: yes
eiskaffee: ^^
jlm [1k\]: F4 just looks too slow...but I guess it forces some resolution in the corner
kaworu [2k\]: its inviting black in the corner 
gogonuts [4d\]: if w gets sente here he will finish the territory with the next move
gogonuts [4d\]: pressure on b
rollstory [1d\]: w stablizing moyo indirectly i guess..even if b takes corner
gogonuts [4d\]: b doesnt want to play for f3, so giving it a direct rap is a good idea
jlm [1k\]: Y, I see that. Makes sense
gogonuts [4d\]: without f4, w was still worried about a kamikaze invasion if w attempts to enclose right away
jlm [1k\]: Black moyo is quite loose
jlm [1k\]: And low
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont like b q10
gogonuts [4d\]: still not safe
gogonuts [4d\]: and no pressure on w above
gogonuts [4d\]: small, unsafe, and no pressure :-)
jlm [1k\]: Y, m16 is great stone
agakenny [3d\]: yes Y16 is a shining stone in this position.
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agakenny [3d\]: M16 i mean
jlm [1k\]: I guess black feels compelled to invade now
applepie2 [5d\]: I believe if black 
applepie2 [5d\]: can invade and survive, he is fine
applepie2 [5d\]: what about c7
agakenny [3d\]: with H8 stone, hard to see b how to live
burtabel [4d\]: N16 N15 M15?
jlm [1k\]: C7 would be epic fight
herissondu [4d\]: reducing might be enough
gogonuts [4d\]: ib b invades right now, he's admiting something went wrong:-)
gogonuts [4d\]: otoh if it works, fine :-)
Daddeldu [2k\]: depend on how deep he invades
Woods [6d\]: c7 clearly die
agakenny [3d\]: cut is not good, w just extend L16
Woods [6d\]: even I can kill that
NGC3242 [1d?\]: I don't think B should invade because it goes against his game plan of when played Q10
jlm [1k\]: H10 splits the objectives to invade and build moyo
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;B[eq]
;W[dq]C[agakenny [3d\]: now w got big corner
agakenny [3d\]: and the left side
Daddeldu [2k\]: and black will invade. I am sure :-)
LarryG [2d\]: H10
NGC3242 [1d?\]: E3 is surprising after thinking so long
jlm [1k\]: E3 huge but plays right into white hands
burtabel [4d\]: Why not just k9?
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;B[ep]
;W[eo]
;B[gp]C[rollstory [1d\]: b wants sente
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;W[fo]C[rollstory [1d\]: and builds up own area
frostwind [7k\]: o13 
agakenny [3d\]: this b sente helps w a lot
LoneStar [3d\]: c6 wrong too low
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;B[hj]C[jlm [1k\]: Well if nothing else C7 is off the table now ;)
gogonuts [4d\]: that stone will suffer
NGC3242 [1d?\]: aw I guessed K9 but he went for H10 </3
jlm [1k\]: K8
gogonuts [4d\]: if b wants to go that deep, he shouldn't play e3 ect, imo
frostwind [7k\]: w 50 black also about 50
burtabel [4d\]: how is that deep?
burtabel [4d\]: cant really attack h10?
jlm [1k\]: H10 is perfect too
frostwind [7k\]: f10 is enough
frostwind [7k\]: just block
NGC3242 [1d?\]: I don't think blocking is enough, B has a lot of territory
NGC3242 [1d?\]: not that I ever count
jlm [1k\]: H10 a classic multipurpose stone
LoneStar [3d\]: beforec6b position is all on 3rd line , the upper side result not good for b ,  so w had bettr fuseki , now its notsure
rollstory [1d\]: just block is too pasive
Eowyn [3d\]: o10 maybe
NGC3242 [1d?\]: oo I like O10 :)
NGC3242 [1d?\]: but then again all i ever do is cap
jlm [1k\]: L10
jlm [1k\]: Or k8
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;W[jk]C[jlm [1k\]: I mean k9
LoneStar [3d\]: dont lie
applepie2 [5d\]: wow, black is far ahaed on territory, tough game for white
Daddeldu [2k\]: it will be a huge fight. h10 is not yet home
frostwind [7k\]: h10 is not in danger
jlm [1k\]: 50+ for w on left
frostwind [7k\]: b can escape
agakenny [3d\]: w likes the future big check
LoneStar [3d\]: i thin b should ve expanded b moyo in the right instead of h10 reduction it seems a bit deep considering how thick w is  around there
frostwind [7k\]: now b can f10
jlm [1k\]: And b framework is somewhat loose
huggy [3k\]: capturing h10 is deamland
applepie2 [5d\]: w p17 group huge burden
gogonuts [4d\]: agakenny, he has to play big in this kind of position
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;B[jj]C[Daddeldu [2k\]: maybe not capture h10 but walk into b territory? 
gogonuts [4d\]: you can't build up and build up, and then take the small check
LoneStar [3d\]: p17 is fine
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;W[kj]C[Daddeldu [2k\]: w must have a plan...
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;B[ji]C[jlm [1k\]: P17 group is why I liked H10 so much
Lsugyen [7d\]: b is not in a good mood
Lsugyen [7d\]: q10 was not good I think
LoneStar [3d\]: w stones are more lively 
harlej9 [1k\]: i think h10 was a great move
gogonuts [4d\]: agree, q10 was passive
harlej9 [1k\]: very light
applepie2 [5d\]: hard to imagine black lose this game
LoneStar [3d\]: m9
NGC3242 [1d?\]: I feel B had a right to be passive anf play Q10
jlm [1k\]: Y, H10 and m16 are best moves so far imho
harlej9 [1k\]: can u see the weakness of o1
harlej9 [1k\]: 15
harlej9 [1k\]: o15
gogonuts [4d\]: funny applepie, to me w is winning naturally
jlm [1k\]: M17 is wise now
gogonuts [4d\]: L9 even wiser, imo
harlej9 [1k\]: m17 too small, b'd cut at l9
Daddeldu [2k\]: M17 is game over for w. he must take the lead
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;W[ik]C[LoneStar [3d\]: i meant l9 not m typo
LoneStar [3d\]: oh
jlm [1k\]: L9 cut is too good
harlej9 [1k\]: h12?
USGO1 [-\]: just posted a commentary by myungwan kim: https://youtu.be/Dyjgj6lNNNE?list=PLqpN3-2FP-kK76a1Eet50HLq_1vZheSwv
gogonuts [4d\]: first b has to protect himself
jlm [1k\]: Will put huge pressure on p17
LoneStar [3d\]: btw q10 is aa fine move i think
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;B[gh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: thx, usgo
LoneStar [3d\]: now m9
agakenny [3d\]: J16
applepie2 [5d\]: this seems too pasive, but still black good
NGC3242 [1d?\]: I think B is totally winning, go is such a fascinating game
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;W[fj]C[NGC3242 [1d?\]: how people can argue about who's in the lead, when in pretty much every other game that's easy to see
jlm [1k\]: B probably has lead but white lively and at his heels
agakenny [3d\]: w nicely make the territory, and destroy b moyo, also create a weak b group
LoneStar [3d\]: i think if u guys know whos winning by now so confidently like this , u would be 8d 
gogonuts [4d\]: w looking forward to a leaning attack at the top
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;B[ki]
;W[lj]C[gogonuts [4d\]: oh
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;B[li]
;W[mj]C[applepie2 [5d\]: g12-f10 good for white
gogonuts [4d\]: L11 was poison
jlm [1k\]: Well black gonna get m17
gogonuts [4d\]: L9 cut was a b asset
LoneStar [3d\]: hmmm
jlm [1k\]: And p17 fate unclear
applepie2 [5d\]: anyway, i am curious about w p17 group
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gogonuts [4d\]: b becomming the attacker in the ur, but paid too much
Daddeldu [2k\]: just p8?
LoneStar [3d\]: o11
LoneStar [3d\]: n11*
jlm [1k\]: M17
LoneStar [3d\]: too attck p17 , N11 IS VITAL
applepie2 [5d\]: I believe this is the real final
burtabel [4d\]: B needs to attack p17 group to justify L11/M11 - they both cost territory
gogonuts [4d\]: when somebody plays moves like L11,M11 I expect a ready made plan
gogonuts [4d\]: those werent moves you can just play to look and see
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;B[mi]C[jlm [1k\]: L9 was better than g12
LoneStar [3d\]: see?
agakenny [3d\]: L17 settle
LoneStar [3d\]: this is basic of attacking
gogonuts [4d\]: yes, had to play n11
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;W[qe]C[Zonked [3d\]: plan I guess is that w cant answer this anymore
applepie2 [5d\]: well black is faaar good
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;B[re]
;W[pe]C[gogonuts [4d\]: danger is that w can come back to o10
Zonked [3d\]: b could play it right now if he really wants to
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;B[rf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: but then his ur would be zonked
agakenny [3d\]: R17
Zonked [3d\]: its not like w could have done any really serious damage
LoneStar [3d\]: this w group doesnt look too weak cuz it has higer position versus b crawling position
Zonked [3d\]: s14 looks agressive, sacrifices yose for attack..
LoneStar [3d\]: maybe flexible eye shapes it seems
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;W[lc]C[LoneStar [3d\]: many*
agakenny [3d\]: w settle top now
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;B[gk]C[LoneStar [3d\]: its still playable for both 
jlm [1k\]: M17 renders l11 and m11 meaningless 
NGC3242 [1d?\]: go Eric \\o/
gogonuts [4d\]: because of h8 no cut at L9
Daddeldu [2k\]: N18 can still escape and trouble w?
Muttley [2k\]: ummm, don't think so
Direktsaft: no
Direktsaft: not while there's r17 aji
LoneStar [3d\]: E8
gogonuts [4d\]: yes, but escaping is hard work
gogonuts [4d\]: cant hope to kill
HKA [3d?\]: if it tried to escape it would not trouble white
Zonked [3d\]: b could give up a slice of topright corner, in return for saving n17 stone and pushing trough at n16
SiaTex [4k\]: e8 
jlm [1k\]: H17
LoneStar [3d\]: e8 dude
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;W[ok]C[Direktsaft: not easy to find a good move, because there's aji at e11
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;B[pk]C[LoneStar [3d\]: h17 bad , G17 is tesuji there
LoneStar [3d\]: but g17 is not right either in this situation
jlm [1k\]: H17 idea is to get K18 in sente and remove n10 escape
jlm [1k\]: N17
LoneStar [3d\]: dont fraid of b saving n17 if u r afraid of such thing u cant ply  high level
LoneStar [3d\]: sving n17 would hurt b outside more thn wht b might get 
LoneStar [3d\]: saving*
gogonuts [4d\]: p9 is expensive
jlm [1k\]: Not if p17 can die big
gogonuts [4d\]: that must have some definite tactical reason
LoneStar [3d\]: trust me  p17 has a lot of flexiblity to make eyes
applepie2 [5d\]: well, I am looking forward to be tought by Eric how to win this ..
LoneStar [3d\]: askk any 9ps
agakenny [3d\]: w has S5 on rigt site, so P9 not expensive
LoneStar [3d\]: can w p8 or should go bck to e8
Muttley [2k\]: I think w should j18
LoneStar [3d\]: mutt dont try to be a hero go is a game of balance such move doesnt usully work 
Lsugyen [7d\]: w seems slightly better right now
Lsugyen [7d\]: r17 is now enormous, or defending at e8 is great
NGC3242 [1d?\]: W R17 is a legitimate endgame move right?
Muttley [2k\]: I've read it out, LoneStar, white wins by 1.5 this way
gogonuts [4d\]: duck at e8?
Lsugyen [7d\]: yes
Muttley [2k\]: assuming w wins the man ko at the end
jlm [1k\]: Oops I overlooked r17...huge indeed
LoneStar [3d\]: p8 not sure of senteing  thus i would e8
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;W[ij]
;B[hi]C[LoneStar [3d\]: hmm
LoneStar [3d\]: so quick reaction by b
LoneStar [3d\]: is he mad at long thinking
NGC3242 [1d?\]: I want to walk home
NGC3242 [1d?\]: but I'm stranded
Daddeldu [2k\]: he has read that out before. even I did ;.)
NGC3242 [1d?\]: so much rain
gogonuts [4d\]: h11 is pretty unshapy
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;W[ni]C[rollstory [1d\]: why j10?
LoneStar [3d\]: oh w think b is still attackable
manofearth [?\]: is w under time  pressure?
Direktsaft: to reduce b's libs
gogonuts [4d\]: j10 ask if b wanted to block, or not
agakenny [3d\]: so P9 is forO11, good plan
Daddeldu [2k\]: Direktsaft ist ein cooler Name :-)
Direktsaft: ^^
humblelife [-\]: how far can b dive in on the left?
Muttley [2k\]: ko
gogonuts [4d\]: f9 :-)
humblelife [-\]: ah. that explains a lot
LoneStar [3d\]: i would f9 
NGC3242 [1d?\]: I'm predicting about two and a half kos within the next 150 moves
Muttley [2k\]: I would b6 ifI was b
gogonuts [4d\]: b plan is to make g8 a threat
gogonuts [4d\]: but w is preempting that
Direktsaft: o11 has a nice feel to it. now b's group is floating in a sea of white
LoneStar [3d\]: pls f9 to punish w not defending there its the flow you cant refused too ride on
jlm [1k\]: E11 now?
Direktsaft: b has to connect first
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;B[jf]C[LoneStar [3d\]: oh no@
agakenny [3d\]: b chicken out
LoneStar [3d\]: lol
Muttley [2k\]: push, clamp
Muttley [2k\]: reduce
applepie2 [5d\]: yea, this seems slack
LoneStar [3d\]: k14 is a thick move
Zonked [3d\]: preparing to kill m16 stones
Genghis [2k\]: does black need more?
gogonuts [4d\]: o12 just because it feels good?
Muttley [2k\]: w+1.5
Zonked [3d\]: o12 pure dame, k14 not so much
gogonuts [4d\]: attacking b looks very speculative in this position
humblelife [-\]: r17 seems like the safe move. o12 seems too safe now
LoneStar [3d\]: w was worried about j11 then h13 peep k13 peep etc then w will lean on b low position territory round f17 j17 , this ws b's concern
LoneStar [3d\]: b was worried*
gogonuts [4d\]: fixing the left is the commomn sense approach, imo
applepie2 [5d\]: this was too mild, from now white will command
ThiGar [4k\]: w n18 settles the group immediately
Falcon89 [5k\]: i just come in, is this the first game of best of 3 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: train robbery is at J16
applepie2 [5d\]: e8 seems ok for white now
Direktsaft: b has about 60 points, w about 55
humblelife [-\]: no. game 2. sort of. eric has a 1 win lead
Falcon89 [5k\]: thanks humblelife
Direktsaft: (upper right corner undecided)
manofearth [?\]: with komi it is ~ even. action  pertaining2 b b14 cld be difference
jlm [1k\]: Again e8 and r17 still look best to me
Direktsaft: i already counted komi
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;W[qc]C[Muttley [2k\]: trollolol
Muttley [2k\]: but is it sente?
NGC3242 [1d?\]: R17 is gote I thought
gogonuts [4d\]: nice one, jlm
Muttley [2k\]: w can treat it as sente
agakenny [3d\]: but R17 is big and it kills N17 too
Muttley [2k\]: and come back later
jlm [1k\]: Well lsuge idea
LoneStar [3d\]: faster
Daddeldu [2k\]: no only endgame left?
SiaTex [4k\]: i just think q18 i sente
jlm [1k\]: Looks like white is taking charge now
SiaTex [4k\]: so mybe he wants to avoid it
LoneStar [3d\]: can they order pizza during the game?
applepie2 [5d\]: well, I have a lot of respect for black, but he is too mild
SiaTex [4k\]: ye
Direktsaft: sounds like something you'd say about coffee
gogonuts [4d\]: applepie, sanity can be a real drawback in this game :-)
applepie2 [5d\]: I hope, black can regroup, and compete still
LoneStar [3d\]: i would love to play a big final game  eating pizza
Muttley [2k\]: you should play the move which is in your heart
Daddeldu [2k\]: but he can play s17 and then go further into w left territory
humblelife [-\]: b can't go that far. w center has miai connection 
applepie2 [5d\]: anytime I see k14 I say: ouuuaa
a1328 [3k\]: S17 only?
jlm [1k\]: R17 def gote...just so big and solves some late game problems
LoneStar [3d\]: s17 dude
LoneStar [3d\]: why b taking so long if hes gonna play it anywaay
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;B[rc]C[NGC3242 [1d?\]: S17 R18 tenuki?
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;W[qb]
;B[fk]C[LoneStar [3d\]: lol
NGC3242 [1d?\]: YES
NGC3242 [1d?\]: called it
Muttley [2k\]: yeah, that was a hard one
NGC3242 [1d?\]: shhh :P
Muttley [2k\]: hehe :)
jlm [1k\]: D8 no sweat
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;W[ek]C[Muttley [2k\]: good call
LoneStar [3d\]: hane!!
Muttley [2k\]: bless you
NGC3242 [1d?\]: from now on when I sneeze I will make a "hane!!" sound
Falcon89 [5k\]: haha
Muttley [2k\]: isn't d2 bigger for b next?
Muttley [2k\]: granted w has L1, but all the same
Genghis [2k\]: isn't d2 gote?
LoneStar [3d\]: oh mutt , very good feel for big yose
Muttley [2k\]: cheers
NGC3242 [1d?\]: I can't yose so I'll sit back and let others talk now
Muttley [2k\]: Genghis, this is a case where it is worth it for the follow up
LoneStar [3d\]: b pls hane , u cant play f8 or f7 here , right?
LoneStar [3d\]: its just too submissive!
Muttley [2k\]: just score the difference between w e2 and connect, and b d2 and connect, and you get the picture
LoneStar [3d\]: hane is the only possible local move to go
Genghis [2k\]: 8 point differential?
burtabel [4d\]: way more
Muttley [2k\]: 14 points
LoneStar [3d\]: hne yasmasa 9p is he dead?
NGC3242 [1d?\]: after D2 and connect B also has B2
LoneStar [3d\]: hane yasmas*
humblelife [-\]: he was alive 2 years ago. i haven't heard anything
humblelife [-\]: i suspect he is hard to kill
LoneStar [3d\]: how about waji shujo , i like his style
LoneStar [3d\]: awaji shujo*
applepie2 [5d\]: black is a disapoitment, after such a good opening, he was not able to continue in a similar tone
psd: eric winning
Muttley [2k\]: I shall say it one more time: w+1.5
agakenny [3d\]: i don't see how b pays 7.5 komi
psd: muttley is 9d
]
;B[el]C[Muttley [2k\]: hehe
LoneStar [3d\]: b upper joseki selection was a\\weful , so low  , 
jlm [1k\]: Double hane is fun
SiaTex [4k\]: e10 
agakenny [3d\]: w D9 is enough
Muttley [2k\]: yeah, can white get away with d8
SiaTex [4k\]: double hane on double hane i think
SiaTex [4k\]: if white double hane
Muttley [2k\]: SiaTex, if b double hane w will cut, then b takes a stone and gets killed
agakenny [3d\]: D8 is fine too
LoneStar [3d\]: d8 is quite possible ,dudes
Direktsaft: and then white cut
jlm [1k\]: I promise you d8
SiaTex [4k\]: e10 ez
humblelife [-\]: e10 feels a bit more dangerous than e8
humblelife [-\]: w might accidentally get cut at h8 and need to connect o12
jlm [1k\]: O11 makes e10 possible
Direktsaft: w can connect on the other side
humblelife [-\]: yes, but that might mean b reduced the left more than if w just d8
]
;W[ej]C[SiaTex [4k\]: bingo
]
;B[fm]C[rthspaz07 [2k\]: if white d8 couldnt black play e10 and e11 after
]
;W[dl]C[agakenny [3d\]: jim is strong
]
;B[pd]C[LoneStar [3d\]: daang 
Direktsaft: there was a jim 6-7d long ago
]
;W[pb]C[Muttley [2k\]: jim's 4-5d now
]
;B[rd]C[jlm [1k\]: This is actually another muttley account
LoneStar [3d\]: l18
Muttley [2k\]: I'm losing tracks of all my accounts :))
Lsugyen [7d\]: these are bad exchanges for b
Fsoi [6k?\]: mutley, am i one of your account ?
Muttley [2k\]: you sure are
Fsoi [6k?\]: oh ok
Direktsaft: o18 aji
Muttley [2k\]: crazyhorse was one of mine, ages ago
Muttley [2k\]: j18 white ...
LoneStar [3d\]: i was wondering this q16 is worth the gote
bert [?\]: but then the horse perished
LoneStar [3d\]: w will l18
Muttley [2k\]: sadly I didn't play on KGS for about a year then
a1328 [3k\]: any reason?
Muttley [2k\]: no internet
jlm [1k\]: And we also used to play as twoeye
NGC3242 [1d?\]: but then muttley gave me the twoeye account so I've been playing as twoeye since
LoneStar [3d\]: what is w thinking
LoneStar [3d\]: isnt l18 obvious
Direktsaft: another term for crazy horse is night mares.
LoneStar [3d\]: is he considering k18 or what
psd: NGC3242 you are two eye? lol
agakenny [3d\]: K16 is possible
Muttley [2k\]: L18 combined with a well timed e18 is the plan
]
;W[kb]
;B[dr]C[LoneStar [3d\]: see
]
;W[cr]
;B[er]C[agakenny [3d\]: good LoneStar
NGC3242 [1d?\]: psd, sorry, I was continuing a joke, I wish I was 2i but nah
jlm [1k\]: Ok it's time to start counting seriously 
LoneStar [3d\]: merci
agakenny [3d\]: s5
LoneStar [3d\]: l1 is next
HKA [3d?\]: I just counted, looks like komi should be plenty
agakenny [3d\]: l18 u mean
]
;W[ks]C[jlm [1k\]: B16 big
agakenny [3d\]: j18
]
;B[kr]C[LoneStar [3d\]: or j18
agakenny [3d\]: wow! goo LS
LoneStar [3d\]: see dudes
LoneStar [3d\]: i know where is big
Direktsaft: m1 tesuji
NGC3242 [1d?\]: LoneStar is actually LeeSedol in disguise
LoneStar [3d\]: cuz i seen too many professional dudes games
LoneStar [3d\]: i have this feel
LoneStar [3d\]: from that
Muttley [2k\]: just n1
LoneStar [3d\]: yeah n1
jlm [1k\]: I get that feel for about 2 moves each time I watch a game
LoneStar [3d\]: then j18
mafutrct [2d?\]: lonestar you talk like you're wanted by the police
manofearth [?\]: pros don't get 2play  many monkey jumps
]
;W[ol]
;B[pl]C[psd: no chance for b
Falcon89 [5k\]: i have a question(if B can play there) is g15 better or n14 better for B?
psd: s5 biggest
LoneStar [3d\]: i am a ranger , dude  police is no maatch to me
]
;W[ii]
;B[ih]C[mafutrct [2d?\]: yeah, don't 'dude' me
Muttley [2k\]: clamp, dude
jlm [1k\]: G15 would be slightly bigger falcon
LoneStar [3d\]: lol did i talk to only you , dude chill oout
humblelife [-\]: why was l1 left alone?
jlm [1k\]: But not big right now
psd: s5 bigger
Falcon89 [5k\]: thx  jlm
psd: b t5 is big
NGC3242 [1d?\]: I'm thinking it's about time W pulls out the C19 tesuji
LoneStar [3d\]: j18
Muttley [2k\]: maybe h13
NGC3242 [1d?\]: is there a single pro game where the opening move was on the 1st line?
jlm [1k\]: Or b16
LoneStar [3d\]: this game is already in yose session at move 90
NGC3242 [1d?\]: haha yeah
jlm [1k\]: Y...very moyoish
LoneStar [3d\]: getting hungry...
NGC3242 [1d?\]: this game was like a 13x13
NGC3242 [1d?\]: fuseki followed directly by yose
gogonuts [4d\]: sneak attack g17
jlm [1k\]: I like j18 now
LoneStar [3d\]: b16 is  big too
]
;W[hg]C[NGC3242 [1d?\]: muttley nice
Muttley [2k\]: trollolol
Muttley [2k\]: hehe
Muttley [2k\]: can't touch this
LoneStar [3d\]: wow
Muttley [2k\]: Erictime
LoneStar [3d\]: w more agressive
]
;B[hh]C[LoneStar [3d\]: is it still attacable
jlm [1k\]: Maybe
jlm [1k\]: If so j16?
golgo13 [8k\]: where are they playing this game at?
LoneStar [3d\]: in a go salon?
huggy [3k\]: las vegas
LoneStar [3d\]: oh
LoneStar [3d\]: nice
Falcon89 [5k\]: LA
golgo13 [8k\]: in a $40 a night LV motel?
ThiGar [4k\]: crowds flock to vegas go events
lalika: link to brackets?
]
;W[qp]C[Muttley [2k\]: ole
LoneStar [3d\]: hmm
gogonuts [4d\]: i think it's in LA
HKA [3d?\]: they are in LA
]
;B[ro]C[Falcon89 [5k\]: yes, USGO said LA
jlm [1k\]: Has anyone counted?
]
;W[qo]C[LoneStar [3d\]: push 1 more!
]
;B[qn]C[NGC3242 [1d?\]: Se says B+0.5 and Se is always right
golgo13 [8k\]: why b chose that instead of sente r5
manofearth [?\]: w obviosly ahead
yukontodd [12k?\]: Se is right less often than a monkey with an abacus.
LoneStar [3d\]: this game yose is gonna be too long for my patience..
jlm [1k\]: B16 and white on cruise control
gogonuts [4d\]: a monkey with a coconut is better than se
]
;W[ms]
;B[js]C[gogonuts [4d\]: also, it has to be set on japanese rules to make any sense at all
gogonuts [4d\]: all other rule sets it's totally bonkers, not just 90%
NGC3242 [1d?\]: When I made the comment I was thinking "KGS is great because it
LoneStar [3d\]: j18 then b16 or just b16?
]
;W[bq]
;B[dm]C[NGC3242 [1d?\]: s the one online community where people can properly sense sarcasm"
]
;W[cm]C[LoneStar [3d\]: oh 
LoneStar [3d\]: b3?
Luffyy [3d\]: game is close isn't it ?
gogonuts [4d\]: we are more advanced than that
jlm [1k\]: Yes, but white up a little
LoneStar [3d\]: isnt b3 a bit slack..
gogonuts [4d\]: we look past sarcasm :-)
]
;B[bd]
;W[be]C[LoneStar [3d\]: b16 seems huge
LoneStar [3d\]: i feel its 2 or 3 points bigger than b3
golgo13 [8k\]: sarcasm is a little ugly brother of humor
Luffyy [3d\]: b3 is like 6 points counter sente
HKA [3d?\]: I still think the game is close on the board, komi being decisive
gogonuts [4d\]: w must have counted a good result for himself, or he would have done some messing around in the upper left
LoneStar [3d\]: b will k18
gogonuts [4d\]: he really should do somethiong
NGC3242 [1d?\]: I'm looking forward to "W+1.5"
gogonuts [4d\]: worrying options for w
CSamurai [3k?\]: Would you K18 or would you g14?
burtabel [4d\]: LOL, SE is crazy even by SE's standards
NGC3242 [1d?\]: this game has pretty rotational symmetry
LoneStar [3d\]: k18 then w s18
lalika: this game reminds me of another game
lalika: but i can't remember which
manofearth [?\]: not crazy, just generous
Lsugyen [7d\]: b can't komi
LoneStar [3d\]: i m sure couting and estimating repeatedly  during this kind of game is no fun for even players
]
;B[fg]
;W[ge]
;B[eg]
;W[ch]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: See, I think G14 was a better move. White's not obligated to take this stone, and can g15 to reduce. K18 still feels wide open and it hasn't fixed this moyo.
Tasogare85 [5k\]: I just tried online-go.com but ... it didn't really convince me
CSamurai [3k?\]: Heh.
CSamurai [3k?\]: Wow.
burtabel [4d\]: much more pleasant to fight than having to count at move 100!
CSamurai [3k?\]: That happened as I typed it.
lalika: tasogare, why not?
LoneStar [3d\]: f13 too slow
NGC3242 [1d?\]: do any of you know an effective method of making rain stop
CSamurai [3k?\]: Step one: Find Shaman. Step two: Ask him.
humblelife [-\]: drop the temperature to -2 C
LoneStar [3d\]: f13 g15 exchange seems obviously in fvor for w
LoneStar [3d\]: favor
burtabel [4d\]: Yes, just transfer 50$ to my account and I'll set things in motion
floppy: step 3 ?????? step 4: profit
CSamurai [3k?\]: Alternately, NGC, Move to Arizona.
CSamurai [3k?\]: You'll never worry about rain again.
LoneStar [3d\]: maybe w can get some oints by threa\\tening 
LoneStar [3d\]: 12 group  after g15
CSamurai [3k?\]: Do you think b can force his way through with f14?
charkysan [-\]: no
burtabel [4d\]: f14 e16
CSamurai [3k?\]: Yeah. 
Tasogare85 [5k\]: lalika, the interface seemed a bit confusing. I think I reviewed someones game by accident in mid-game
]
;B[fe]
;W[ff]C[LoneStar [3d\]: whhat is this 
CSamurai [3k?\]: Does B feel comfortable here? I haven't counted, but it feels like he's a bit behind, and striving to make up points?
LoneStar [3d\]: is it clicko
LoneStar [3d\]: f15 that is
CSamurai [3k?\]: Clicko?
LoneStar [3d\]: if he cant g14 , why f15
LoneStar [3d\]: thss makes no sense , dudes
CSamurai [3k?\]: Yeah, I dunno. Looks crazy to me. But I'm a 4k, it would doubtless work against me.
groobiest: f15 misclick?
CSamurai [3k?\]: F15 played on real board. best misclick ever.
LoneStar [3d\]: he thouoght e15 aatari can save f15,
gru [1k\]: g13
LoneStar [3d\]: like we make such msitakes when sleepy
agakenny [3d\]: lol
]
;B[gf]
;W[fd]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: Wow.
CSamurai [3k?\]: Goin for it.
manofearth [?\]: here wego
LoneStar [3d\]: but
CSamurai [3k?\]: B plays e17 to force a connection, then h15 to solidify.. or.. No idea really..
LoneStar [3d\]: what did he b get
agakenny [3d\]: b get gote
CSamurai [3k?\]: It feels like if we're going to play crazy cuts, we should just play h7 and see what happens..
manofearth [?\]: b started ingote
]
;B[ec]C[LoneStar [3d\]: this looks really weird
LoneStar [3d\]: oh
CSamurai [3k?\]: e17, forces the connection..
CSamurai [3k?\]: Then what for b?
CSamurai [3k?\]: I have no idea.
LoneStar [3d\]: samurai so good
manofearth [?\]: looks like  (real) fighting 2me
gru [1k\]: h13
CSamurai [3k?\]: Really, wish I could read my games like I read other peoples. Might help if I read my games..
LoneStar [3d\]: is w considering h14 atari before e15?
dangdang [2k\]: talk to psychiatrist you might have go yips lol
]
;W[hf]C[LoneStar [3d\]: heh
]
;B[gg]
;W[ee]C[LoneStar [3d\]: i read erics mind 
CSamurai [3k?\]: So, this looks normal.. Does b take the blunt h15 or move on for now?
]
;B[he]C[LoneStar [3d\]: seem no other option
]
;W[hd]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: Yeah. If you went this far, I guess you have to.
]
;B[ie]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: Wh17?
CSamurai [3k?\]: Or do we move to s18?
Luffyy [3d\]: g18 ?
]
;W[hc]C[gru [1k\]: w slowly kill center
CSamurai [3k?\]: Center feels safe. Plenty of room for a second eye, but.. lots of reduction.
Tasogare85 [5k\]: It was W+2,5 30 minutes ago and it's still W+2,5 ... man they play even :D
LoneStar [3d\]: g18
]
;B[jb]
;W[hb]C[LoneStar [3d\]: j16?
LoneStar [3d\]: oh
CSamurai [3k?\]: Well. 
CSamurai [3k?\]: This is a thing that happened.
CSamurai [3k?\]: B's corner feels cramped later, and still needs a protective move in the j16 area.
LoneStar [3d\]: i dont know wht b is doing
]
;B[kc]C[gru [1k\]: is l17 an option?
gru [1k\]: lol
]
;W[kd]
;B[jc]
;W[lb]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: Still fine for white. 
agakenny [3d\]: what is b doing here?
CSamurai [3k?\]: S18 may be the proper thing now, or g18 if b wants to fix his corner.
USGO1 [-\]: black is in byo-yomi now
]
;B[nh]C[LoneStar [3d\]: now l13 cn threaten b i guess
CSamurai [3k?\]: I guess B wants to shore up this group.
agakenny [3d\]: J5 now
]
;W[oi]C[LoneStar [3d\]: before o12 i meant
LoneStar [3d\]: h18 can  reduce b corner  lot nd really no idea wht b achieved
]
;B[ll]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: b achieved.. getting his stones split, and all..
CSamurai [3k?\]: no idea what the plan to win is now for B though. Feels behind.
]
;W[oh]C[LoneStar [3d\]: hmm w couunter attacing instead of simply connecting
USGO1 [-\]: 4 periods
]
;B[pg]C[flatwhite [3k\]: who is better
charkysan [-\]: makes miai to connect from p12 or h8
CSamurai [3k?\]: W relying on low time for b.
]
;W[ng]C[flatwhite [3k\]: looks white better?
LoneStar [3d\]: i thin b will resign soon
LoneStar [3d\]: thhis develop ment is nonsense for b
flatwhite [3k\]: is bmiddle group dead?
]
;B[mh]C[LoneStar [3d\]: b need 1 move to defend
CSamurai [3k?\]: B feels alive, but can be pushed a bit.
LoneStar [3d\]: l13 coming if no defence
awesome [3k\]: how can that die
NGC3242 [1d?\]: magic
floppy: it still moves so it must bealive
]
;W[og]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: I think probably m14 now to prevent l13?
LoneStar [3d\]: yeah
]
;B[lf]C[LoneStar [3d\]: he took gote again
LoneStar [3d\]: with m8 peep
CSamurai [3k?\]: I think probably should have m13 rather than n12 to just stop the drama, but this finishes it..
flatwhite [3k\]: e19 now?
]
;W[km]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: Yeah, was looking at this. No reason not to.
LoneStar [3d\]: yeah
LoneStar [3d\]: so i feel its really weird
CSamurai [3k?\]: W can push down on b, maybe reclaim the peep area. 
USGO1 [-\]: 3 periods
LoneStar [3d\]: in the left upper he played strange nd here he got gote too
CSamurai [3k?\]: bM6?
]
;B[lm]
;W[kn]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: Oh, that's.. interesting. B not worried about this sequence?
flatwhite [3k\]: cut now?
flatwhite [3k\]: L9
CSamurai [3k?\]: L9 leads nowhere.
arcturius [3k\]: both sides are alive
LoneStar [3d\]: just not right for b when u think of the initial purposes of b moves 
flatwhite [3k\]: he can catpure m10 stones?
flatwhite [3k\]: or maybe
USGO1 [-\]: 2 periods
CSamurai [3k?\]: M10 stones are super safe.
flatwhite [3k\]: p8 stones?
flatwhite [3k\]: if he cuts then plays o10
LoneStar [3d\]: b maybe just made carelss mistakes due to the time pressure 
ThiGar [4k\]: n4 has some aji now
USGO1 [-\]: sudden death
CSamurai [3k?\]: I feel like we're going to see b time out.
LoneStar [3d\]: but they llook quite obvious they did harm to b
]
;B[jo]C[LoneStar [3d\]: its like a collapse 
CSamurai [3k?\]: W can play l8 as defense, and then press in a bit more...
ThiGar [4k\]: m6 captures?
]
;W[ea]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: Ohhhh, hey, fun reduction.
]
;B[hn]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: Does this keep sente for white?
CSamurai [3k?\]: Oh, B ignores it. Can w kill top?
CSamurai [3k?\]: B18?
flatwhite [3k\]: seems top gropu is bigger
TyTaLuS [1d\]: top probably smaller than mid
flatwhite [3k\]: top smaller?
agakenny [3d\]: L9 connect
charkysan [-\]: b attacks w center, then, if not working, g17 followed by f19
CSamurai [3k?\]: Hey, Lonestar, what do you think?
TyTaLuS [1d\]: mid group has a lot of good late game for white
flatwhite [3k\]: top is like 50 points?
LoneStar [3d\]: desperation move
]
;W[gl]C[dangdang [2k\]: 40wish?
]
;B[fl]C[flatwhite [3k\]: oh yea 30 for w 10 for b?
agakenny [3d\]: j6
ThiGar [4k\]: n8
LoneStar [3d\]: o7?
CSamurai [3k?\]: W can just defend l9 any way he likes, and b has no cut?
Luffyy [3d\]: can someone give the link with the results pls ?
LoneStar [3d\]: no
USGO1 [-\]: white is in byo-yomi now
kecleon [2d\]: http://www.usgo.org/aga-professional-results-2015
Luffyy [3d\]: thx
LoneStar [3d\]: sorry luffy , not to you 
]
;W[kk]C[flatwhite [3k\]: p10?
LoneStar [3d\]: means i ws ot ssayign no to u hehe
CSamurai [3k?\]: W happy with this. B moves on to protect top?
LoneStar [3d\]: not saying*
]
;B[da]C[LoneStar [3d\]: b ws wishing for w blunder but failed
kecleon [2d\]: d19 is the shape that saves the most points in the corner or something?
]
;W[ga]C[NGC3242 [1d?\]: seems the same as E18
]
;B[eb]
;W[ln]
;B[nm]C[CSamurai [3k?\]: Ahh, b yeah, that.
]
;W[mn]C[NGC3242 [1d?\]: isn't W F19 sente? I feel like B has to defend the corner
CSamurai [3k?\]: O8?
CSamurai [3k?\]: If he's desperate to save those stones?
]
;B[nl]C[LoneStar [3d\]: w aheaad by 10 on board , this is huge
flatwhite [3k\]: white lost l7 group?
]
;W[oj]C[flatwhite [3k\]: L7 
NGC3242 [1d?\]: how is L7 dead?
LoneStar [3d\]: everything safe
rayheart [?\]: no he didnt
humblelife [-\]: l8, k7 nothing
USGO1 [-\]: black resigns here
USGO1 [-\]: W+r
NGC3242 [1d?\]: thanks
USGO1 [-\]: thanks everyone for watching
CSamurai [3k?\]: Thanks for broadcasting!
agakenny [3d\]: good game, thanks
USGO1 [-\]: next rounds begin at 9:30 am pacific time tomorrow morning
Falcon89 [5k\]: thx
LoneStar [3d\]: b collasped himself in the beginnin of long long yose process 1
USGO1 [-\]: stay tuned to the AGA website for the latest news and updates
LoneStar [3d\]: mysterious collapse by b
CSamurai [3k?\]: Time pressure hurts. 
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